Recent Changes for "Agnostic and Atheist Student Association" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_AssociationRecent Changes of the page "Agnostic and Atheist Student Association" on Davis Wiki.en-us Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2014-10-06 13:15:38AgASAUCD <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ||<span>Summer</span> 2014:||<br> <span>-</span> ||Meetings: Thursday <span>7</span>:<span>0</span>0pm to <span>9</span>pm at the <span>[</span>ht<span>tp://d</span>a<span>viswiki</span>.<span>org/Davis_Food_Co-op</span> <span>Davis Food Co-op]</span>|| </td> <td> <span>+</span> ||<span>Fall</span> 2014:||<br> <span>+</span> ||Meetings: Thursday <span>6</span>:<span>1</span>0pm to <span>8:00</span>pm at the <span>Deat</span>h<span>&nbsp;S</span>ta<span>r Rm</span>. <span>70</span>|| </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2014-08-13 09:52:48AgASAUCDupdated summer meeting info, updated officers <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ||S<span>p</span>r<span>ing</span> 2014:||<br> <span>-</span> ||Meetings: Thursday <span>6</span>:<span>1</span>0pm to <span>8</span>pm <span>in H</span>a<span>r</span>t <span>1116||<br> - ||Af</span>te<span>r 8PM:</span> [http://daviswiki.org/<span>3r</span>d_<span>%26_U_</span>Ca<span>fe</span> <span>3r</span>d <span>&amp; 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The club is predominantly made up of people who identify as materialists/naturalists/physicalists (people who do not believe in any form of the supernatural) and non-theists who believe in some things that are supernatural. However, everyone is welcome to the general meetings and to partake in the discussions.<br> - <br> - Meetings for Spring 2013 are at 6pm Thursday @ Hart 1150<br> - <br> - AgASA meetings are discussion-based and generally revolve around what the individuals present wish to talk about.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ The '''Agnostic and Atheist Student Association''', or '''AgASA''' is a ["Student organizations" campus organization] with the purpose of fostering a community for the many agnostics, secularists, skeptics, and atheists at UC Davis. AgASA’s ideal community is inclusive: atheists, agnostics, and others of goodwill who would like to join. AgASA conducts a variety of activities, including social events, community service, regular meetings, and fundraisers, with the following goals:<br> + <br> + * To generate opportunities to meet people and build friendships both within AgASA and with others in the broader UCD community.<br> + * To provide a safe environment for atheists, agnostics, and others to share ideas and concerns.<br> + * To promote collaboration for good works and activism to serve the disadvantaged and the oppressed.<br> + * To promote a favorable public image of atheists and agnostics, and public awareness and understanding of legal and cultural issues of significance to atheists and agnostics.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 25: </td> <td> Line 24: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- There is no process for official membership in the Agnostic and Atheist Student Association. Generally those who consider themselves members are either members of AgASA's [http://ucdavis.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2200395326 facebook] group or regularly attend the meetings. The meetings are open to the campus, community, and beyond.<br> - <br> - Here is what we have planned for Fall quarter:<br> - <br> - 10/2/12: What is AgASA?<br> - <br> - 10/9/12: What is atheism?<br> - <br> - Special Event! 10/12/12: Matt McCormick (details to come)<br> - <br> - 10/16/12: How to run an atheist club<br> - <br> - Special Event!: 10/20/12: Preview Day @ Freeborne hall, 11:30-2:30<br> - <br> - 10/23/12: Is offense actionable?<br> - <br> - 10/30/12: Sexism and atheism<br> - <br> - 11/6/12: Sexism continued<br> - <br> - 11/13/12: Activism<br> - <br> - 11/20/12: Fallacy<br> - <br> - 11/27/12: Quarterly De-Stress Potluck!<br> - </span> </td> <td> <span>+ There is currently no process for official membership in the Agnostic and Atheist Student Association. Generally those who consider themselves members are either members of AgASA's [http://ucdavis.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2200395326 facebook] group or regularly attend the meetings. The meetings are open to the campus, community, and beyond.<br> + <br> + =History=<br> + <br> + [[Image(AGASA t-shirt.jpg, 300, right, thumbnail)]]<br> + <br> + AgASA was formed in the Fall of 2001, shortly after the September 11 attacks, as a response to what was perceived as very aggressive and deceptive marketing on the part of some of the ["Christianity" Christian] organizations on ["campus"]. The group was founded by three people, all of whom have now moved out of ["Davis"] and on to other things. Founder, Bryce Kuklok, class of 2004, designed the official logo of AgASA to be a Jesus fish on a plate ready to be eaten. His reasoning in starting the organization was that there were no fewer than a dozen religious organizations present on what was supposed to be a secular public ["campus"], yet there was no outlet for the godless, who were bombarded on a daily basis by the rhetoric and propaganda of faith based groups. The original intended name of AgASA was Aggie Agnostics, but in a move inconsistent with the reality of other student groups present on ["campus"], Bryce was barred from using the term "Aggie".<br> + <br> + The group's former president was ["Users/KrisFricke" Kris Fricke], who aspired to restart the club several times during the 2002-2003 school year. In the mid-winter quarter of 2005, Kris held a meeting and people actually showed up and were interested in getting AgASA going again! After officer elections and official affiliation with larger Agnostic and Atheist groups (such as [http://www.secularstudents.org Secular Student Alliance] and [http://www.rthoughtsrfree.org/aof.htm Atheists and Other Freethinkers]), the new board is excited to start having fun and meeting new agnostics and atheists hidden in the Davis community. ["Arash Khosrowshahi"] was a former Student Advisor.<br> + <br> + =Officers (2013-2014)=<br> + <br> + ||President:|| Fran Munton ||<br> + ||Treasurer:|| Arthur Palomo ||<br> + ||Event Coordinator: || Heather Applebury ||</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 83: </td> <td> Line 71: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - =History=<br> - <br> - [[Image(AGASA t-shirt.jpg, 300, right, thumbnail)]]<br> - <br> - AgASA was formed in the Fall of 2001, shortly after the September 11 attacks, as a response to what was perceived as very aggressive and deceptive marketing on the part of some of the ["Christianity" Christian] organizations on ["campus"]. The group was founded by three people, all of whom have now moved out of ["Davis"] and on to other things. Founder, Bryce Kuklok, class of 2004, designed the official logo of AgASA to be a Jesus fish on a plate ready to be eaten. His reasoning in starting the organization was that there were no fewer than a dozen religious organizations present on what was supposed to be a secular public ["campus"], yet there was no outlet for the godless, who were bombarded on a daily basis by the rhetoric and propaganda of faith based groups. The original intended name of AgASA was Aggie Agnostics, but in a move inconsistent with the reality of other student groups present on ["campus"], Bryce was barred from using the term "Aggie".<br> - <br> - The group's former president was ["Users/KrisFricke" Kris Fricke], who aspired to restart the club several times during the 2002-2003 school year. In the mid-winter quarter of 2005, Kris held a meeting and people actually showed up and were interested in getting AgASA going again! After officer elections and official affiliation with larger Agnostic and Atheist groups (such as [http://www.secularstudents.org Secular Student Alliance] and [http://www.rthoughtsrfree.org/aof.htm Atheists and Other Freethinkers]), the new board is excited to start having fun and meeting new agnostics and atheists hidden in the Davis community. ["Arash Khosrowshahi"] was a former Student Advisor.</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2013-05-02 18:29:30ThanhVu <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 18: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Meetings for Spring 2013 are at 6pm Thursday @ Hart 1150</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2012-10-02 17:20:45jlbernst <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ||<span>Spring</span> 2012:||<br> <span>-</span> ||Regular meetings Tuesdays 6 to <span>9</span> pm in Wellman 6|| </td> <td> <span>+</span> ||<span>Fall</span> 2012:||<br> <span>+</span> ||Regular meetings Tuesdays 6<span>:10</span> to <span>8</span> pm in Wellman 6|| </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 24: </td> <td> Line 24: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Here is what we have planned for Fall quarter:<br> + <br> + 10/2/12: What is AgASA?<br> + <br> + 10/9/12: What is atheism?<br> + <br> + Special Event! 10/12/12: Matt McCormick (details to come)<br> + <br> + 10/16/12: How to run an atheist club<br> + <br> + Special Event!: 10/20/12: Preview Day @ Freeborne hall, 11:30-2:30<br> + <br> + 10/23/12: Is offense actionable?<br> + <br> + 10/30/12: Sexism and atheism<br> + <br> + 11/6/12: Sexism continued<br> + <br> + 11/13/12: Activism<br> + <br> + 11/20/12: Fallacy<br> + <br> + 11/27/12: Quarterly De-Stress Potluck!<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2012-09-24 20:41:49PeteBdespamified email <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - 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For example, Pol Pot's regime killed religious people and destroyed Buddhist temples and artifacts. Muslims were forced to eat pork. Et cetera. All the horrible atrocities common to theocracies — repression of the freedoms of conscience, thought, speech, assembly, press, religion, nonreligion — have occurred in officially atheist nations. This is why I value the ideal of a secular state, a government that diligently works to makes sure that it does not favor, promote, or in any shape or form exert the slightest pressure supporting or opposing any religion or nonreligion (Teaching evolution does not count because it is a theory composed of a set of logical postulates supported by mountains of evidence. Teaching that the lack of evidence for god means that people should become atheists ''does'' count because it is nothing else other than an anti-religious attack.) --["Users/RaymondCrawford"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2011-02-22 14:48:52PeteBfixed meeting header <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Meetings for Winter 2011 @ Wellman 26, Thursdays (6PM)<br> <span>-</span> <span><br> - </span>Everyone is welcome. </td> <td> <span>+</span> <span>||</span>Meetings for Winter 2011 @ Wellman 26, Thursdays (6PM)<span>||</span><br> <span>+</span> <span>||</span>Everyone is welcome.<span>||</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2011-02-22 14:22:31ThanhVu <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- First meeting for Fall Quarter 2010 is a BBQ at Oxford Circle Park from 6-8 on Thursday, September 30.<br> - <br> - On October 7, meeting will be in Young 194, from 6-8. All subsequent meetings for Fall Quarter will be in Olson 6.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Meetings for Winter 2011 @ Wellman 26, Thursdays (6PM)</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2011-02-22 14:08:13ThanhVu(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 58: </td> <td> Line 58: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Writer and representative of the Center for Inquiry at the United Nations Austin Dacey will join the UC Davis campus to discuss international blasphemy laws and the recent push in the U.N. to support the criminalization of what nations may deem blasphemy or "hate speech".</span> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2011-02-22 14:08:03ThanhVu(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 60: </td> <td> Line 60: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Wednesday March 10th<br> - 7pm, doors open at 6:30<br> - 1001 Giedt Hall<br> - UC Davis campus<br> - FREE, open to the community</span> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-10-05 19:36:29ShivaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 236: </td> <td> Line 236: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-10-05 19:36:29'' [[nbsp]] Zombiek, grad students are absolutely welcome. --["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-10-01 12:17:31jlbernst <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 8: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Everyone is welcome.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-10-01 12:12:50jlbernst <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- || AgASA meets on Tuesdays at 6pm in Wellman 26 for Winter of 2010||</span> </td> <td> <span>+ First meeting for Fall Quarter 2010 is a BBQ at Oxford Circle Park from 6-8 on Thursday, September 30.<br> + <br> + On October 7, meeting will be in Young 194, from 6-8. All subsequent meetings for Fall Quarter will be in Olson 6.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 18: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ||Winter Quarter 2010 meetings are Tuesdays at 6pm in Wellman 26.||</span> </td> <td> <span>+ First meeting for Fall Quarter 2010 is a BBQ at Oxford Circle Park from 6-8 on Thursday, September 30.<br> + <br> + On October 7, meeting will be in Young 194, from 6-8. All subsequent meetings for Fall Quarter will be in Olson 6.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 25: </td> <td> Line 29: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + =Officers (2010-2011)=<br> + ||President:|| Thomas Waters || twwaters@ucdavis.edu||<br> + ||Meeting Leader:|| Eric Lowe || elowe@ucdavis.edu|| ||wikilowe@gmail.com (preferred)||<br> + ||Event Coordinator:||Thanh Vu|| thavu@ucdavis.edu||<br> + ||Treasurer:||Tom Louis|| twlouis@ucdavis.edu||<br> + ||Social Chair:||Emily Cooper|| eccooper@ucdavis.edu||</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-08-10 09:34:44zombiekComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 221: </td> <td> Line 221: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-08-10 09:34:44'' [[nbsp]] Is this mainly an undergrad organization, or are grads welcome, too? Very jealous that you guys got to meet Dawkins! :) --["Users/zombiek"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-06-27 18:23:22JasonAller <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [[Image(AGASA_Facebook_Logo.jpg, <span>1</span>00<span>0</span>, right, thumbnail)]] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [[Image(AGASA_Facebook_Logo.jpg, <span>4</span>00<span>, noborder</span>, right, thumbnail)]]<span><br> + [[Image(agasa-sandwich.JPG, thumbnail, 400, right, "Sign on quad mentioning Davis Wiki")]]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 6: </td> <td> Line 7: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ||E-mail any of the officers if you wish to learn about AgASA, would like to know about upcoming AgASA events, or wish to be added to the mailing list.|| </td> <td> <span>+</span> ||E-mail any of the officers if you wish to learn about AgASA,<span>||<br> +</span> <span>||</span>would like to know about upcoming AgASA events,<span>||<br> +</span> <span>||</span>or wish to be added to the mailing list.|| </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 15: </td> <td> Line 18: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- == ==</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-06-27 18:20:54JasonAllerUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association?action=Files&do=view&target=agasa-sandwich.JPG">agasa-sandwich.JPG</a>.Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-05-13 14:01:15ShivaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 217: </td> <td> Line 217: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-05-13 14:01:15'' [[nbsp]] Well, it's kind of our own fault, Bruce. Where would you categorize Non-Olive-Oil-Eaters but under "Olive Oil"? That's kind of a joke...In the Center for Student Involvement organization list we're listed under "religious." I guess we can't ask for our own category, but I wonder where the philosophy club is categorized. Maybe there should be an "ideology" category... --["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-04-09 06:53:25BruceHansen <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 216: </td> <td> Line 216: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2010-04-09 06:51:18'' [[nbsp]] As this page is in the #1 listing - Agnostic &amp; Atheist - on the ["Spiritual Organizations"] page it prompts the question of why "Agnostic and Atheists" is considered spiritual since a significant portion of its participants don't consider themselves spiritual. Would perhaps "Spiritual Related" be a better category? (Also are all churches spiritual?)<span><br> - <br> - </span> --["Users/BruceHansen"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2010-04-09 06:51:18'' [[nbsp]] As this page is in the #1 listing - Agnostic &amp; Atheist - on the ["Spiritual Organizations"] page it prompts the question of why "Agnostic and Atheists" is considered spiritual since a significant portion of its participants don't consider themselves spiritual. Would perhaps "Spiritual Related" be a better category? (Also are all churches spiritual?) --["Users/BruceHansen"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-04-09 06:51:18BruceHansenComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 215: </td> <td> Line 215: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-04-09 06:51:18'' [[nbsp]] As this page is in the #1 listing - Agnostic &amp; Atheist - on the ["Spiritual Organizations"] page it prompts the question of why "Agnostic and Atheists" is considered spiritual since a significant portion of its participants don't consider themselves spiritual. Would perhaps "Spiritual Related" be a better category? (Also are all churches spiritual?)<br> + <br> + --["Users/BruceHansen"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-03-14 22:37:02upisdownComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 207: </td> <td> Line 207: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-03-14 22:37:02'' [[nbsp]] Has anyone thought about boycotting overtly religious corporations who donate to pro religious policies and leaders? It seems that if you want to effectively have a voice and ever hope to have an openly atheist president we need to avoid giving money to people who think that being an atheist should precluded from politics. If we let Republican and Religious people staff courts we effectively lose any hope of appealing to the rationality of our system.<br> + <br> + Examples are Hilton Hotel(Donated a lot of money to prop 8 supporters), In N Out (Look at bottom of the soda cup and political contributions), Woodstock pizza (Bottom of the box and they are kinda phony since they have a the same "insert area" special for every different UC location.) I sure with some thought and research a great list could be created. If people actually follow the boycott it effectively stops cashflow into religious control and directs it to rational people.<br> + <br> + We live in a capitalism more importantly than a representative republic so every dollar you spend you are voting so why vote against your own interest?<br> + <br> + Just a thought. --["Users/upisdown"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-02-28 13:39:59ShivaUpdating outdated information <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 9: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ||AgASA Blog: [http://davisagasa.livejournal.com/]||<br> - ||AgASA Message Board: [http://agasa.proboards67.com/index.cgi]||</span> </td> <td> <span>+ ||AgASA Blog: [http://agasadavis.wordpress.com/]||</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 44: </td> <td> Line 43: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Renowned biologist and blogger PZ Myers visits ["UC Davis"] for a lecture and Q&amp;A on Thursday, January 21st, from 6:30pm until 9:30pm. The event is free and open to the public.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Writer and representative of the Center for Inquiry at the United Nations Austin Dacey will join the UC Davis campus to discuss international blasphemy laws and the recent push in the U.N. to support the criminalization of what nations may deem blasphemy or "hate speech".<br> + <br> + Wednesday March 10th<br> + 7pm, doors open at 6:30<br> + 1001 Giedt Hall<br> + UC Davis campus<br> + FREE, open to the community</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 47: </td> <td> Line 52: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> http://davis<span>aga</span>s<span>a.livejournal</span>.com/ </td> <td> <span>+</span> http://<span>agasa</span>davis<span>.wordpre</span>s<span>s</span>.com/ </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-01-23 15:59:54alexlee333 <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 14: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Winter Quarter 2010 meetings are Tuesdays at 6pm in Wellman 26. </td> <td> <span>+</span> <span>||</span>Winter Quarter 2010 meetings are Tuesdays at 6pm in Wellman 26.<span>||</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-01-23 15:59:20alexlee333 <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ||&lt;bgcolor='#E0E0FF'&gt;'''Meeting Times'''||<br> + Winter Quarter 2010 meetings are Tuesdays at 6pm in Wellman 26.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2010-01-22 01:55:51PaulAmnuaypayoatadditional bit of history added <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 36: </td> <td> Line 36: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> AgASA was formed in response to what was perceived as very aggressive and deceptive marketing on the part of some of the ["Christianity" Christian] organizations on <span>campus</span>. <span>&nbsp;</span>The group was founded by three people, all of whom have now moved out of Davis and on to other things. Founder, Bryce Kuklok class of 2004, designed the official logo of AgASA to be a Jesus fish on a plate ready to be eaten. <span>&nbsp;</span>His reasoning in starting the organization was that there were no fewer than a dozen religious organizations present on what was supposed to be a secular public <span>campus</span>, yet there was no outlet for the godless, who were bombarded on a daily basis by the rhetoric and propaganda of faith based groups. The original intended name of AgASA was Aggie Agnostics, but in a move inconsistent with the reality of other student groups present on <span>campus</span>, Bryce was barred from using the term "Aggie". </td> <td> <span>+</span> AgASA was formed in <span>the Fall of 2001, shortly after the September 11 attacks, as a </span>response to what was perceived as very aggressive and deceptive marketing on the part of some of the ["Christianity" Christian] organizations on <span>["campus"]</span>. The group was founded by three people, all of whom have now moved out of <span>["</span>Davis<span>"]</span> and on to other things. Founder, Bryce Kuklok<span>,</span> class of 2004, designed the official logo of AgASA to be a Jesus fish on a plate ready to be eaten. His reasoning in starting the organization was that there were no fewer than a dozen religious organizations present on what was supposed to be a secular public <span>["campus"]</span>, yet there was no outlet for the godless, who were bombarded on a daily basis by the rhetoric and propaganda of faith based groups. The original intended name of AgASA was Aggie Agnostics, but in a move inconsistent with the reality of other student groups present on <span>["campus"]</span>, Bryce was barred from using the term "Aggie". </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 42: </td> <td> Line 42: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Renowned biologist and blogger PZ Myers visits UC Davis for a lecture and Q&amp;A on Thursday, January 21st, from 6:30pm until 9:30pm. The event is free and open to the public. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Renowned biologist and blogger PZ Myers visits <span>["</span>UC Davis<span>"]</span> for a lecture and Q&amp;A on Thursday, January 21st, from 6:30pm until 9:30pm. The event is free and open to the public. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-12-22 12:06:19JabberWokkyRevert to version 622 (Spam, well intentioned, but still spam.). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 200: </td> <td> Line 200: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2009-12-22 10:42:24'' [[nbsp]] Suicide Prevention and Crisis Services of Yolo County.<br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - FEELING DEPRESSED?<br> - Call or Volunteer.<br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - Sometimes after the holidays, there is a let down that coincides with this dark time of the year. The volunteers at the 24-Hour Crisis Line understand that no matter what kind of personal, financial, or emotional crisis you may be experiencing, it helps to know that you are not alone. Talking to a compassionate listener is a healthy way to deal with depression. Volunteers are trained and able to connect callers with many different community resources. If you or someone you know needs support - CALL US at 756-5000. If you'd like to become a trained volunteer, contact our business office at 756-7542.<br> - <br> - --["Users/SuicidePreventionofYoloCounty"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-12-22 11:42:24SuicidePreventionofYoloCountyComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 200: </td> <td> Line 200: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-12-22 10:42:24'' [[nbsp]] Suicide Prevention and Crisis Services of Yolo County.<br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + FEELING DEPRESSED?<br> + Call or Volunteer.<br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + Sometimes after the holidays, there is a let down that coincides with this dark time of the year. The volunteers at the 24-Hour Crisis Line understand that no matter what kind of personal, financial, or emotional crisis you may be experiencing, it helps to know that you are not alone. Talking to a compassionate listener is a healthy way to deal with depression. Volunteers are trained and able to connect callers with many different community resources. If you or someone you know needs support - CALL US at 756-5000. If you'd like to become a trained volunteer, contact our business office at 756-7542.<br> + <br> + --["Users/SuicidePreventionofYoloCounty"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-12-15 15:50:51ShivaUpdates/corrections <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> || AgASA meets on Tuesdays at 6pm for <span>Fall</span> of 200<span>9 in Olsen 6</span>|| </td> <td> <span>+</span> || AgASA meets on Tuesdays at 6pm <span>in Wellman 26 </span>for <span>Winter</span> of 20<span>1</span>0|| </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 42: </td> <td> Line 42: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- AgASA meetings for Fall 2009 take place on Tuesdays at 6pm. The first two meetings on 9/29 and 10/6 are in 194 Young, while the remaining meetings will take place in 6 Olson.<br> - <br> - Sacrilegious BBQ: Sunday 9/27 at 4-7pm at Oxford Circle Park</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Renowned biologist and blogger PZ Myers visits UC Davis for a lecture and Q&amp;A on Thursday, January 21st, from 6:30pm until 9:30pm. The event is free and open to the public.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-24 12:59:05ShivaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 200: </td> <td> Line 200: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-10-24 12:59:05'' [[nbsp]] I was able to relate to a lot of what Rand said because I had the experience of living in a society that was almost identical to the one she criticized. She grew up in one, too, in Russia, and I grew up in it in Iran, and maybe that's what it takes to realize that the altruism that she criticizes is not a philosophical construct that never existed, but a reality for many people. This is how I enjoy her work, and in no other sense, so I can't disagree with or argue with any of the things you've written because that's not my perspective or approach toward her work. What I will point out, though, is that judging by how much you've written, apparently your initial argument didn't speak for itself as much as you'd assumed, and that was what I was trying to get at in the first place. I was just hoping you would back up your argument. Thanks for doing that. --["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-10 13:46:29ChrisMccort <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> || AgASA meets on Tuesdays at 6pm for Fall of 2009 in <span>194</span> <span>Young Hall</span>|| </td> <td> <span>+</span> || AgASA meets on Tuesdays at 6pm for Fall of 2009 in <span>Olsen</span> <span>6</span>|| </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-08 19:24:30upisdown <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 197: </td> <td> Line 197: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> (Unregulated) Capitalism is certainly not the only thing susceptible to corruption however nor did I say it was in my argument. </td> <td> <span>+</span> (Unregulated) Capitalism is certainly not the only thing susceptible to corruption however nor did I say it was in my argument.<span>&nbsp;This was a strawman.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-08 19:23:30upisdown <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 193: </td> <td> Line 193: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> I don't think she was "exactly" saying what Buddhist preach that one must love themselves to love others (which is based on entirely different principals). In fact I don't think she was ever<span>y</span> exactly saying anything considering how contradictory her definitions are. I think she was speculating a utopian reality in which everyone acted "rationally" (in their own self interest) and magically no one would have conflict with one another. </td> <td> <span>+</span> I don't think she was "exactly" saying what Buddhist preach that one must love themselves to love others (which is based on entirely different principals). In fact I don't think she was ever exactly saying anything considering how contradictory her definitions are. I think she was speculating a utopian reality in which everyone acted "rationally" (in their own self interest) and magically no one would have conflict with one another. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-08 19:22:53upisdown <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 193: </td> <td> Line 193: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> I don't think she was<span>&nbsp;trying</span> "exactly" saying what Buddhist preach that one must love themselves to love others (which is based on entirely different principals). In fact I don't think she was every exactly saying anything considering how contradictory her definitions are. I think she was speculating a utopian reality in which everyone acted "rationally" (in their own self interest) and magically no one would have conflict with one another. </td> <td> <span>+</span> I don't think she was "exactly" saying what Buddhist preach that one must love themselves to love others (which is based on entirely different principals). In fact I don't think she was every exactly saying anything considering how contradictory her definitions are. I think she was speculating a utopian reality in which everyone acted "rationally" (in their own self interest) and magically no one would have conflict with one another. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-08 19:20:44upisdown <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 181: </td> <td> Line 181: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Rand posited this entirely fantastic doctrine as the alternative to egoism. (Naturally, this makes egoism look good by contrast.) To be an alternative to egoism, it had of course to be an ethical theory (which is already a mistake, since the term in fact labels practices, dispositions or motivations recommended by different ethical theories as appropriate for certain kinds of occasions; it is no more an ethical theory than is courage). Continuing, though, this alleged theory is supposed to hold or imply a variety of nasty things, some of which are listed above.<br> - </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 202: </td> <td> Line 200: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - <br> - </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-08 19:19:57upisdown <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 179: </td> <td> Line 179: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Rand has created a doctrine of altruism to be at odds with her egotism and naturally knocking down this strawman makes egoism look good. However to be an alternative to egoism altruism has to be an ethical theory however that is not true. The term altruism simply labels practices, dispositions or motivations recommended by different ethical theories as appropriate for certain kinds of occasions. Altruism is not more of a ethical theory than is courage. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Rand has created a doctrine of altruism to be at odds with her egotism and naturally knocking down this strawman makes egoism look good. However to be an alternative to egoism altruism has to be an ethical theory however that is not true. The term altruism simply labels practices, dispositions or motivations recommended by different ethical theories as appropriate for certain kinds of occasions. Altruism is not more of a<span>n</span> ethical theory than is courage. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 205: </td> <td> Line 205: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - <br> - </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-08 19:18:26upisdown <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 168: </td> <td> Line 168: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + It is my understanding that the definitions for selfishness and altruism used by Rand were simply misused or twisted to fit her argument. For example the the concept of altruism under her definition was not practiced or supported by any major moral philosopher. Here are some quotes of her twisted version of altruism.<br> + <br> + "The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value." (Lexicon, p. 4)<br> + <br> + "The irreducible primary of altruism ... is self-sacrifice – ... which means: the self as a standard of evil, the selfless as a standard of the good." (Lexicon, p. 5)<br> + <br> + "Altruism declares that any action taken for the benefit of others is good, and any action taken for one's own benefit is evil. Thus the beneficiary of an action is the only criterion of moral value – and so long as that beneficiary is anybody other than oneself, anything goes." (Lexicon, p. 5, emphasis on "any," "only" and "anything" added)<br> + <br> + "Altruism holds death as its ultimate goal and standard of value." (Lexicon, p. 7)<br> + <br> + Rand has created a doctrine of altruism to be at odds with her egotism and naturally knocking down this strawman makes egoism look good. However to be an alternative to egoism altruism has to be an ethical theory however that is not true. The term altruism simply labels practices, dispositions or motivations recommended by different ethical theories as appropriate for certain kinds of occasions. Altruism is not more of a ethical theory than is courage.<br> + <br> + Rand posited this entirely fantastic doctrine as the alternative to egoism. (Naturally, this makes egoism look good by contrast.) To be an alternative to egoism, it had of course to be an ethical theory (which is already a mistake, since the term in fact labels practices, dispositions or motivations recommended by different ethical theories as appropriate for certain kinds of occasions; it is no more an ethical theory than is courage). Continuing, though, this alleged theory is supposed to hold or imply a variety of nasty things, some of which are listed above.<br> + <br> + Rand's concept of altruism was entirely made up. It was a doctrine that was not held by any major moral thinker at the time and specifically the people she claimed were proponents of alturism such as Marx, Kant, Rawls, Mill, Spencer or Dewey. Not a single one maintained that that the interest of the individual are of NO importance, that service to others is the only justification for existence or that anything goes as long as one is benfitting other people than themselves.<br> + <br> + Ironically even though Rand is a atheist she made a flimsy teleological argument for the reason selfishness was a virtue (a human's own life is the standard of value). These were based of outdated biological principals. Since this is the purpose of humans she supposes that there are no conflicts among rational people in a rational society which is wrong. But why does she suppose this clearly absurd argument?<br> + <br> + I think the core of the answer can be found in the observation that if there are any genuine conflicts of interest, then her commitment to egoism would require her to endorse the violation of the rights that she also favors. Or, conversely, her commitment to rights would require her to endorse someone’s acting against his own interests.<br> + <br> + Understandably, Rand did not want to be caught on either side of this trouble and so denied the premise that there was ever any conflict of rational interests. By denying it she could maintain both that each person should always serve his own interests and that rights should never be violated. Or so, at least, it appears.<br> + <br> + Nonetheless, the claim that rational interests never conflict is pretty obviously false. Moreover, I think most Objectivists recognize that it is false. They show this by their willingness to interpret what Rand said about the lack of conflict between rational interests as true in context? – where the context is normal, non-emergency situations. What they say is that rational interests never conflict except in emergencies.<br> + <br> + This, however, is not helpful unless there is some independent way of determining that some situation is an emergency apart from the fact that rational interests conflict there. Without that, the claim that rational interests never conflict except in emergencies just reduces to the claim that rational interests never conflict except when they do. True, no doubt, but not enlightening.<br> + <br> + I don't think she was trying "exactly" saying what Buddhist preach that one must love themselves to love others (which is based on entirely different principals). In fact I don't think she was every exactly saying anything considering how contradictory her definitions are. I think she was speculating a utopian reality in which everyone acted "rationally" (in their own self interest) and magically no one would have conflict with one another.<br> + <br> + I have issue linking altruism with religion. I feel there is no inherent link between religion and altruism. In fact altruism is one the redeeming qualities of religion when it is actually practiced and it certainly does not have a monopoly on it.<br> + <br> + (Unregulated) Capitalism is certainly not the only thing susceptible to corruption however nor did I say it was in my argument.<br> + <br> + As for libertarianism, while she may not have started libertarianism her work is most definitely used to support it. It is closely tied to libertarianism and the conservative movement such as Jesus (or his writers) is to Christianity. While Jesus may not have been a Christian "his" works played a major role in the movement. Often libertarians support her arguments without knowing what its contents are so I feel the critique of libertarianism is relevant and necessary. And I believe with this argument I can say both Ayn Rand and Libertarianism are crazy and short sighted. I try to avoid logical fallacies, ad homs in debating but I apologize if any slipped. I never intended to call or suggest you are short sighted or crazy. --["Users/upisdown"]<br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-04 00:59:46ShivaSpelling. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 167: </td> <td> Line 167: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2009-10-04 00:45:17'' [[nbsp]] No, it doesn't necessarily speak for itself. I'm not a libertarian and would do a disservice to both sides of the argument if I were to try and defend libertarianism. Furthermore, Rand wasn't a libertarian, but I don't necessarily wish to defend her either. What I will say is that I have read some of her work and much of it makes sense. Rand's idea that selfishness is a virtue is exactly the argument that you can't really love someone until you love yourself. <span>That you aren't really giving anybody anything unless you assign value to yourself first, and she elaboreates on this quite clearly. And m</span>ost people would agree with that notion and often do. But just because Rand literally calls it "selfishness," <span>the very same </span>people run with the connotation that she believes self-indulgence and disregard are virtues, and in my experience, most people who attribute her to this philosophy have never read her work. Rand's position on altruism is also very understandable. Capitalism isn't the only thing susceptible to corruption. Where there is altruism there is often abuse - just look at religion! Overall I'm not terribly interest<span>ing</span> in this debate because I<span>'m tired of having to</span> expla<span>in to people that</span> I <span>have simultaneously rea</span>d Ayn Rand<span>, liked it, and had a soul. Like I said, I don't want to defend her</span>, but she's not as crazy or shortsighted as you think, and neither am I. --["Users/Shiva"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2009-10-04 00:45:17'' [[nbsp]] No, it doesn't necessarily speak for itself. I'm not a libertarian and would do a disservice to both sides of the argument if I were to try and defend libertarianism. Furthermore, Rand wasn't a libertarian, but I don't necessarily wish to defend her either. What I will say is that I have read some of her work and much of it makes sense. Rand's idea that selfishness is a virtue is exactly the argument that you can't really love someone until you love yourself<span>; that you aren't really giving anybody anything unless you assign value to yourself first, and she elaboreates on this quite clearly</span>. <span>M</span>ost people would agree with that notion and often do. But just because Rand literally calls it "selfishness," people run with the connotation that <span>implies </span>she believes self-indulgence and disregard are virtues<span>&nbsp;(which she does not)</span>, and in my experience, most people who attribute her to this philosophy have never read her work. Rand's position on altruism is also very understandable. Capitalism isn't the only thing susceptible to corruption. Where there is altruism there is often abuse - just look at religion! Overall I'm not terribly interest<span>ed</span> in this debate because I<span>&nbsp;don't have any burden of proof over my personal convictions and owe nobody an</span> expla<span>nation. Like</span> I <span>said, I'm not here to defen</span>d Ayn Rand<span>&nbsp;completely</span>, but she's not as crazy or shortsighted as you think, and neither am I<span>. Cheers</span>. --["Users/Shiva"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-10-04 00:45:17ShivaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 166: </td> <td> Line 166: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-10-04 00:45:17'' [[nbsp]] No, it doesn't necessarily speak for itself. I'm not a libertarian and would do a disservice to both sides of the argument if I were to try and defend libertarianism. Furthermore, Rand wasn't a libertarian, but I don't necessarily wish to defend her either. What I will say is that I have read some of her work and much of it makes sense. Rand's idea that selfishness is a virtue is exactly the argument that you can't really love someone until you love yourself. That you aren't really giving anybody anything unless you assign value to yourself first, and she elaboreates on this quite clearly. And most people would agree with that notion and often do. But just because Rand literally calls it "selfishness," the very same people run with the connotation that she believes self-indulgence and disregard are virtues, and in my experience, most people who attribute her to this philosophy have never read her work. Rand's position on altruism is also very understandable. Capitalism isn't the only thing susceptible to corruption. Where there is altruism there is often abuse - just look at religion! Overall I'm not terribly interesting in this debate because I'm tired of having to explain to people that I have simultaneously read Ayn Rand, liked it, and had a soul. Like I said, I don't want to defend her, but she's not as crazy or shortsighted as you think, and neither am I. --["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-29 18:59:29upisdown <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 164: </td> <td> Line 164: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + I assumed that believing selfishness was a virtue was absurd enough to speak for itself. Altruism was naturally selected into humans so it must be at the very least somewhat beneficial so the burden of proof that it isn't lies on Rand supporters. It is a pretty short sighted ideology and most proponents haven't really thought it out (Much like religious people and their logically contradictory religions) because libertarianism put to any scrutiny falls apart rather quickly. Unregulated capitalism tends towards monopolies (There are several historic examples) which results in unchecked power. If you want to defend libertarianism I would be happy to have a nice and friendly debate over it. --["Users/upisdown"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-28 11:21:40ShivaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 162: </td> <td> Line 162: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-09-28 11:21:40'' [[nbsp]] *Do you have a comment about that or have you somehow countered that just by repeating it? --["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-27 12:37:59upisdownComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 158: </td> <td> Line 158: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-09-27 12:37:59'' [[nbsp]] "My hero, Ayn Rand was an atheist. She's a famous author and proponent of objectivism. "<br> + <br> + Your hero suggest that selfishness is a virtue. Not only that but that altruism is counter to reason. --["Users/upisdown"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-27 12:35:59upisdownComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 156: </td> <td> Line 156: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-09-27 12:35:59'' [[nbsp]] Dawkins is going to be in Berkeley in October. I already bought tickets. Just a heads up. --["Users/upisdown"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-26 11:10:44ShivaAdditions of photos <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 49: </td> <td> Line 49: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ =Photos-=<br> + <br> + [[Image(DanBarker.jpg, thumbnail)]] [[Image(bakesale.jpg, thumbnail)]] [[Image(IVkickball.JPG, thumbnail)]] [[Image(Dawkins.jpg, thumbnail)]] [[Image(AshSign.jpg, thumbnail)]]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-26 11:07:55ShivaUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association?action=Files&do=view&target=AshSign.jpg">AshSign.jpg</a>.Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-26 11:07:10ShivaUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association?action=Files&do=view&target=Dawkins.jpg">Dawkins.jpg</a>.Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-26 11:06:40ShivaUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association?action=Files&do=view&target=IVkickball.JPG">IVkickball.JPG</a>.Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-26 11:05:53ShivaUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association?action=Files&do=view&target=bakesale.jpg">bakesale.jpg</a>.Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-26 11:04:33ShivaUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association?action=Files&do=view&target=DanBarker.jpg">DanBarker.jpg</a>.Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-09-26 10:41:00ShivaUpdates <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- || Meetings for Spring of 2009 have ended. AgASA meetings will resume Fall Quarter 2009.||</span> </td> <td> <span>+ || AgASA meets on Tuesdays at 6pm for Fall of 2009 in 194 Young Hall||</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 26: </td> <td> Line 26: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ||Event Coordinator:||<span>Je</span>n<span>nifer</span> <span>Bernstein</span>|| <span>jlberns</span>t@ucdavis.edu|| </td> <td> <span>+</span> ||Event Coordinator:||<span>Tha</span>n<span>h</span> <span>Vu</span>|| t<span>havu</span>@ucdavis.edu|| </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 28: </td> <td> Line 28: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ||Treasurer:||<span>Tha</span>n<span>h</span> <span>Vu</span>|| t<span>havu</span>@ucdavis.edu|| </td> <td> <span>+</span> ||Treasurer:||<span>Je</span>n<span>ny</span> <span>Bernstein</span>|| <span>jlberns</span>t@ucdavis.edu|| </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 42: </td> <td> Line 42: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- AgASA meetings and events have ended for the 2008-2009 year. Official activities will resume in the Fall. Meanwhile, the facebook group is active and posts on the discussion board are welcome and encouraged.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ AgASA meetings for Fall 2009 take place on Tuesdays at 6pm. The first two meetings on 9/29 and 10/6 are in 194 Young, while the remaining meetings will take place in 6 Olson.<br> + <br> + Sacrilegious BBQ: Sunday 9/27 at 4-7pm at Oxford Circle Park</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-07-29 10:51:50jairomejiagomezComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 139: </td> <td> Line 139: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-07-29 10:51:50'' [[nbsp]] Atheists and Gnostics are right in most of their thinking<br> + <br> + It has been common among religious believers to look with misgiving to atheists and Gnostics, and to think that they are mistaken; however, in many instances the opposite is the truth; some religious beliefs are not just irrelevant, but baseless. The “God” of main line traditions simply does not exist. I accepted the challenge of finding the One who may be recognized even by Gnostics and atheists: the Existence itself, “All-That-Is.” If something is there, that is God. Look at the book “Christianity Reformed From ist Roots - A life centered in God” (Amazon.com). I am confident that some of your friends will be relieved of the illusion, as I did myself.<br> + <br> + Jairo Mejia, M. Psych., Santa Clara University<br> + Retired Episcopal Priest<br> + Carmel Valley, California<br> + <br> + http://www.mbay.net/~jmejia/Grudzen.htm<br> + http://www.mbay.net/~jmejia/Churcher.htm<br> + --["Users/jairomejiagomez"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-15 16:17:38ShivaUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association?action=Files&do=view&target=BarkeratDavis.jpg">BarkeratDavis.jpg</a>.Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-15 15:58:59Shiva <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> AgASA is not devoted to any particular school of thought. The group serves primarily as a meeting place for people who identify, for one reason or another, as atheists or agnostics. The meetings are discussion based and the organization has no agenda. What the group focuses on is <span>pr</span>im<span>arily the function of </span>w<span>hat the present individuals discuss. This is an important part of how</span> AgASA functions. </td> <td> <span>+</span> AgASA is not devoted to any particular school of thought. The group serves primarily as a meeting place for people who identify, for one reason or another, as atheists or agnostics. The meetings are discussion based and the organization has no agenda. What the group focuses on is <span>a function of what the present individuals discuss. This is an </span>im<span>portant part of ho</span>w AgASA functions. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> There is no process for official membership in the Agnostic <span>&amp;</span> Atheist Student Association. Generally those who consider themselves members are either members of AgASA's <span>F</span>acebook group or regularly attend the meetings. The meetings are open to the campus, community, and beyond. </td> <td> <span>+</span> There is no process for official membership in the Agnostic <span>and</span> Atheist Student Association. Generally those who consider themselves members are either members of AgASA's <span>[http://ucdavis.f</span>acebook<span>.com/group.php?gid=2200395326 facebook]</span> group or regularly attend the meetings. The meetings are open to the campus, community, and beyond. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-15 15:55:55ShivaMore/better information <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + AgASA meetings are discussion-based and generally revolve around what the individuals present wish to talk about.<br> + <br> + AgASA is not devoted to any particular school of thought. The group serves primarily as a meeting place for people who identify, for one reason or another, as atheists or agnostics. The meetings are discussion based and the organization has no agenda. What the group focuses on is primarily the function of what the present individuals discuss. This is an important part of how AgASA functions.<br> + <br> + There is no process for official membership in the Agnostic &amp; Atheist Student Association. Generally those who consider themselves members are either members of AgASA's Facebook group or regularly attend the meetings. The meetings are open to the campus, community, and beyond.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 34: </td> <td> Line 40: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 37: </td> <td> Line 42: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- AgASA meetings and events have ended for the 2008-2009 year and the group wishes to thank everyone who participated. Official activities will resume in the Fall. Meanwhile, the facebook group is active and posts on the discussion board are welcome and encouraged.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ AgASA meetings and events have ended for the 2008-2009 year. Official activities will resume in the Fall. Meanwhile, the facebook group is active and posts on the discussion board are welcome and encouraged.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 39: </td> <td> Line 44: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- If you missed some meetings or events, check out the blog to keep updated:</span> </td> <td> <span>+ If you are interested in past AgASA events you can find information about them at the group's blog:</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-03 17:30:59Shiva <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 128: </td> <td> Line 128: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *Thanks Evan. I will put up a re-write of my post somewhere up there as soon as I get the chance. </td> <td> <span>+</span> *Thanks Evan. I will put up a re-write of my post somewhere up there as soon as I get the chance.<span>&nbsp;--["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-03 17:29:30ShivaI'm not sure how else to reply to a specific commenter's comment. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 128: </td> <td> Line 128: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *Thanks Evan. I will put up a re-write of my post somewhere up there as soon as I get the chance.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-02 22:27:40SolidSender <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *A rewrite is a good idea for the historical record, if only to clarify what members of the group feel about their logo. It--to someone happening by this DavisWiki page--could appear at first glance to send an antagonistic message different from the clarification Shiva gives. --["Users/SolidSender"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-02 20:34:05IDoNotExist(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 130: </td> <td> Line 130: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Place a " * " in front of the text. --["Users/IDoNotExist"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-02 20:15:09ShivaUpdates. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- || Meetings for Spring of 2009 have started and take place every Monday at 6pm in Olson Hall, Room 146 (Room 106 on 5/4).||</span> </td> <td> <span>+ || Meetings for Spring of 2009 have ended. AgASA meetings will resume Fall Quarter 2009.||</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 6: </td> <td> Line 6: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ||E-mail any of the officers if you wish to learn about n<span>e</span>w<span>s</span> a<span>nd</span> upcoming AgASA events <span>by</span> be<span>ing</span> added to the mailing list.|| </td> <td> <span>+</span> ||E-mail any of the officers if you wish to learn about <span>AgASA, would like to k</span>n<span>o</span>w a<span>bout</span> upcoming AgASA events<span>,</span> <span>or wish to</span> be added to the mailing list.|| </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 14: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Visit us:<br> - Office: 1237 ["Social Sciences and Humanities Building"]<br> - Street: Corner of ["3rd Street"] and ["A Street"]<br> - City: Davis, CA<br> - </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 22: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- =Officers (2008-2009)=<br> - ||President:|| Catalina Chao || ccchao@ucdavis.edu||<br> - ||Social Chair:|| Jenny Bernstein || jlbernst@ucdavis.edu||<br> - ||Event Coordinator:||["Users/Shiva" Shiva Kasravi] || skasravi@ucdavis.edu||<br> - ||Meeting leader:||Samuel Won|| samwon@ucdavis.edu||<br> - ||Treasurer:||Sonia Chapiro|| smchapiro@ucdavis.edu||<br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - Winter Quarter 2009 Meetings:<br> - <br> - Wednesdays at 6pm in 118 Olson<br> - (room subject to change)</span> </td> <td> <span>+ =Officers (2009-2010)=<br> + ||President:||["Users/Shiva" Shiva Kasravi]|| skasravi@ucdavis.edu||<br> + ||Social Chair:|| Elyse Green || elgreen@ucdavis.edu||<br> + ||Event Coordinator:||Jennifer Bernstein|| jlbernst@ucdavis.edu||<br> + ||Meeting Leader:||Samuel Won|| samwon@ucdavis.edu||<br> + ||Treasurer:||Thanh Vu|| thavu@ucdavis.edu||<br> + ||Secretary:||James Moore|| jsmoore@ucdavis.edu||</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 45: </td> <td> Line 34: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 47: </td> <td> Line 37: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Rational Comedy for an Irrational Planet: An evening of science-flavored stand-up from Brian Malow, Earth's Premier Science Comedian<br> - http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=8256&amp;post=28220&amp;uid=43047455638#/event.php?eid=81218498042<br> - For ticket information visit Varsity Theatre in downtown, email Jenny at jlbernst@yahoo.com, or call 408-250-5051<br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - The Atheism series went as follows:<br> - <br> - - January 21st: Atheism in Religion - Mohammad gave a presentation about the history and mentality of Islam.<br> - - January 28th: Atheism in Film, Music &amp; Art - Shiva gave a presentation on anti-theistic sentiment in metal music.<br> - - February 4th: Atheism in Literature - Cat gave a presentation on atheist authors, literature, and representations of atheism, humanism, and anti-theism in literature.<br> - - February 11th: Atheism in Philosophy - Arash gave a presentation on the most common philosophical arguments behind theism, weak atheism, and strong atheism with respect to burden of proof.<br> - - February 18th: Atheism in Mental Health - Jenny presented a comparative look at the happiness of atheists vs. theists where a long discussion ensued about each group's approach toward death.<br> - - February 25th: Atheism in Global Culture - Sam presented on atheism in different areas of the world, namely Europe, Africa and Asia.<br> - - March 4th: Atheism in Charity - Shiva led a discussion on charity and its merit (or lack thereof) as an accompaniment to an ideology.<br> - - March 11th: Atheism in War - Faculty adviser Aaron Sikes presented on his experience as an atheist in the military and compared the mentality of theist and atheist soldiers.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ AgASA meetings and events have ended for the 2008-2009 year and the group wishes to thank everyone who participated. Official activities will resume in the Fall. Meanwhile, the facebook group is active and posts on the discussion board are welcome and encouraged.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 66: </td> <td> Line 41: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - AgASA will work on compiling these presentations into a library so that they may be referred to any time.<br> - <br> - Additionally, this quarter AgASA was able to do a fundraiser in the form of a bake sale on the quad. We successfully sold every piece of baked good we brought, and would like to thank all the people who helped put this bake sale together.<br> - <br> - Good luck on finals, and see you all in spring!</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-02 20:01:41ShivaAccidental double-post. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 161: </td> <td> Line 161: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2009-06-02 20:01:09'' [[nbsp]] I'm an atheist and antitheist myself. The two aren't mutually exclusive, but they are not the same either, and I can appreciate someone bringing that up.<br> - By the way, can someone teach me how to post a comment in reply to someone else's, using the bullet-point? --["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-02 20:01:09ShivaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 161: </td> <td> Line 161: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-06-02 20:01:09'' [[nbsp]] I'm an atheist and antitheist myself. The two aren't mutually exclusive, but they are not the same either, and I can appreciate someone bringing that up.<br> + By the way, can someone teach me how to post a comment in reply to someone else's, using the bullet-point? --["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-02 19:55:34ShivaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 158: </td> <td> Line 158: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-06-02 19:55:34'' [[nbsp]] I'm an atheist and antitheist myself. The two aren't mutually exclusive, but they are not the same either, and I can appreciate someone bringing that up.<br> + By the way, can someone teach me how to post a comment in reply to someone else's, using the bullet-point? --["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-02 18:37:42JabberWokkyReply to answer, suggestion to incorporate into top. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 157: </td> <td> Line 157: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Excellent reply! It's detailed, honest and from an active member of the group, which is what I was hoping for. I'd be suspect if there were any claim that a agnostic/atheist student group at any US college didn't have at least a segment of antitheists, and it's not really a big deal; I was just wondering if there was any actual discussion of agnostic and atheist concepts (or at least the opportunity for such). I'm really glad the organization (at least in you) seems to recognize the greater picture, and if the functional truth is that the discussions seem to run in certain patterns, well, that's where the interest happens to lie. I was kind of getting an odd vibe from the iconography juxtaposed with the aims of the group, which is why I was hoping somebody from the group itself would answer my questions. It would be great if you could take your reply and rewrite it a bit and put it up into the top of the entry. It explains what the general mindset is in direct terms (the current writeup is a bit wishy-washy, probably to avoid complaint) and what to expect at a meeting, items that are very useful for both prospective members and also as a historical record to look back in a couple years at how the group has evolved. In short, you made clear the realities of the group, something that was frustrating me about the current writeup. Thanks again for taking the time to answer. --["Users/JabberWokky" Evan 'JabberWokky' Edwards]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-06-02 17:50:31ShivaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 150: </td> <td> Line 150: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-06-02 17:50:31'' [[nbsp]] jw-<br> + Your observation about the current and former logo is correct in that it refers to religion. I myself wasn't very happy about that when we were sketching and discussing new logos, but this is what the majority voted on, so this is what it is.<br> + That being said, I wouldn't use the logo to try and decipher the purpose and intentions of the group because that's not what the logo was created to do anyway. It's just meant to serve as a visual representation of what most of us currently feel, but it certainly is not a definition for the group, and it can always be changed just like the last one was. To refer to your questions, we are not devoted to any school of thought. AgASA serves primarily as a meeting place for people who identify, for one reason or another, as atheists or agnostics. The meetings are discussion-based and there is no agenda in our organization. In this sense it's not possible to say what AgASA is "about" because anything goes. If AgASA were some sort of atheist activist or atheist educational group it would ceratinly be worth critisizing that true atheistic thought is so often overshadowed by or confused with antitheism -- the distinction you pointed out regarding being anti-religion versus being atheist is valid. But since AgASA has no central mission it can only reflect what the members put into it at any given time. The fact that atheism is heavily involved with theism is a phenomenon that currently spans beyond AgASA. That is what the so-called "atheist world" revolves around right now, for better or for worse. But the point I want to emphasize very strongly is that if AgASA isn't focused on true atheistic schools of thought or on religious agnosticism, that's only because there's no one at the meetings talking about those things. But talking about it is as easy as showing up. That's how AgASA works. I'm definitely willing to discuss this further.<br> + - Shiva<br> + Currently Event Coordinator<br> + President during '09-'10 --["Users/Shiva"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-31 22:34:30JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 146: </td> <td> Line 146: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * You seem to not quite understand the distinctions between atheist, agnostic, theist and deist and how they relate and overlap. The fact that there are a large number of religious agnostics, not to mention non-theist churches like Christian atheism and many other similar philosophies, gives a reason to have a group that discusses such schools of thought. The fact that you are unaware of them pretty much shows that there is a probably a need for a pro-agnostic/atheist group that focuses on these subjects, educating people who are interested in these very deep subjects and the many forms of agnostic and atheistic thought. These topics have many excellent writings dating back centuries and also contemporary authors and speakers who are available to come to campus should a group like this one work on inviting them. The other option is for such a group to focus on countering theist and deist thought... the antagonistic, oppositional posture that also tends to exclude many people who would fit into the group were it simply pro-agnostic/atheist. My question is if they have such a posture as their symbolism and history seems to imply, or if they are focused on their own subject (and thus include the full range of agnostic and atheist thought). It is very simple: are they, as a group, pro-agnostic/atheist or anti-religion? Since there is a major difference between the two, not to mention quite a large number of schools of thought that fall into the overlap and are excluded in one case but not the other -- plus the large number of people who are simply anti-religion with no interest in actual atheism or agnosticism -- it is a fairly interesting distinction. --jw</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-31 20:10:49IDoNotExistreply to Solid and Jabberwocky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 145: </td> <td> Line 145: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *I'm in no way an expert on this. But if someone is an atheist or agnostic (especially atheist), it does seem a little bit strange to me that they would want to go to a church, since that would imply some sort of religious belief. (It is my understanding that Unitarians are following a religion or some sort of religious belief system - correct me if I'm wrong.) But the definition of an atheist is someone who believes that there is no god. So why would they go to a church? In response to Jabberwocky's question, I'm wondering if there is actually an "atheist school of thought". The label "atheist" applies to anyone who does not believe in a deity by definition. That's a lot of people, and they surely don't all believe in the same thing (to do so would be more of a religion!), other than the lack of a deity. To use your previous analogy, this would be more like a group of non-football players, some of whom don't care whether or not anyone else plays football, some of whom played football in the past and then decided that they didn't like the game, and some of whom would really prefer it if football didn't exist at all. Of those, some might be role players and others might not, but there wouldn't be a uniform urge to role play among the non-football fans. :-) --["Users/IDoNotExist"]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-31 12:23:29SolidSender <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 144: </td> <td> Line 144: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *The Unitarians, the majority of whom are atheist and agnostic, pride themselves on inclusiveness and open-mindedness. No matter what a potential member's background--Atheist, Agnostic, Pagan, Catholic, Protestant, Jew, or any other denomination, or non-denomination--the Unitarian Church opens its doors for the purposes of questioning and discussion. The idea, as far as I understand it, after having attended some discussions and heard a few lectures out at their church on Patwin Road in far West Davis, is self-discovery. They seem to be so "pro-" that there's not much time left over for "anti-" ["Users/SolidSender"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-30 10:40:27IDoNotExistComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 144: </td> <td> Line 144: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-05-30 10:40:27'' [[nbsp]] Could it not be both simultaneously? Although I'm not sure that it would have to be against another *group* to have the objective of countering the objectives of that other group. --["Users/IDoNotExist"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-30 09:42:02JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 143: </td> <td> Line 143: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Yes. Which would define this group not as an group devoted to agnostic and atheist schools of thought (which would span certain religious schools), but as "atheist-agnostics and atheists against religion", which is a very different group. To go back to the example above, the difference between a roleplaying group that focuses on playing roleplaying games versus "non-sports fan roleplayers against football", who focus on trying to eliminate football. I'm just curious as to which it is... there's a big difference between identifying yourself as a group who is pro-something and focuses on it (and there is certainly a very wide set of excellent agnostic and atheist philosophies, writings and speakers to explore) versus a group that is anti-another group and focuses on combating them. The title of the group seems to imply the former, the logo the latter, and that split is what I've been wondering about since the beginning of this (now long) thread. What is this group? --jw</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-30 01:05:36IDoNotExistComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 141: </td> <td> Line 141: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-05-30 01:05:36'' [[nbsp]] Looking at the history section of this page, it appears that the group was created as a response to the evangelical groups on campus. In that sense, the group's identity and (current?) mission appear to be defined as a counterpoint to the campus religious groups. In that context, it seems like a logo that shows the group as an alternative to the campus religious groups is appropriate for it. The old logo also makes sense, since the groups that evangelize on campus are virtually all Christian groups. --["Users/IDoNotExist"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-29 23:43:56JabberWokky*Yawn*. I blame a nap for odd typo/word use error there. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 139: </td> <td> Line 139: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * And again, it is still implying that the club<span>s identif</span>y is defined by religion. Is this an anti-religion club or a pro-agnosticism and atheism club? The new icon still identifies the group by the relationship to religion, and makes it look like the club is solely a conversion effort to "save the believers" with no interest in the actual subject of agnostic or atheistic ideas. --jw </td> <td> <span>+</span> * And again, it is still implying that the club<span>'s identit</span>y is defined by religion. Is this an anti-religion club or a pro-agnosticism and atheism club? The new icon still identifies the group by the relationship to religion, and makes it look like the club is solely a conversion effort to "save the believers" with no interest in the actual subject of agnostic or atheistic ideas. --jw </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-29 23:37:11SolidSenderInteresting new logo; but is that a halo I see? <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 140: </td> <td> Line 140: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *jw: very interesting to follow your thinking in response to my comment above. I was making a little fun taking the image of a fish on a plate flanked by knife and fork literally. (and then the fish having digested DARWIN, which is definitely food for thought:) But you've gone much further, placing the intent of the the poster/creator of that image in a political context: namely how it symbolizes an attitude of "Us vs. Them." Which plays into the whole long sorry history of religious strife. I would have thought atheists or agnostics would have been more of independent thinkers, without depending for definition of their movement by others which its members declare they are against. I also agree that the new logo continues the "Us vs. Them" paradigm. ["Users/SolidSender"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-29 22:57:30JabberWokkyIt still gnaws on me for some reason. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 139: </td> <td> Line 139: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * And again, it is still implying that the clubs identify is defined by religion. Is this an anti-religion club or a pro-agnosticism and atheism club? The new icon still identifies the group by the relationship to religion, and makes it look like the club is solely a conversion effort to "save the believers" with no interest in the actual subject of agnostic or atheistic ideas. --jw</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-29 18:09:36ScottMorganNew Logo (temp until I get a higher-res image), old moved to "History" <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [[Image(AGASA<span>&nbsp;t-shirt</span>.jpg, <span>3</span>00, right, thumbnail)]] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [[Image(AGASA<span>_Facebook_Logo</span>.jpg, <span>10</span>00, right, thumbnail)]] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 38: </td> <td> Line 38: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + [[Image(AGASA t-shirt.jpg, 300, right, thumbnail)]]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-29 18:05:05ScottMorganUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association?action=Files&do=view&target=AGASA_Facebook_Logo.jpg">AGASA_Facebook_Logo.jpg</a>.Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-29 17:58:20ScottMorganComment <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 135: </td> <td> Line 135: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Your observation is relevant to group when it was founded but doesn't reflect the groups current members, meetings and activities. The current logo expresses dissatisfaction with religion in a much broader sense. ["Users/ScottMorgan"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-29 09:18:40JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 134: </td> <td> Line 134: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I think you might miss my point. It is that they are defining their group by a purported relationship to a particular religion rather than the quite excellent body of agnostic and atheistic works, most of which have nothing to do with that religion. It's a bit like a roleplaying club creating a logo of a deflated football. Okay, sure... many roleplayers might dislike football, but there is some overlap (a la Christian agnosticism), and you're now ''defining'' yourself as being a group merely opposed to a particular facet of something that is not really in direct opposition. Plus, they're merely selecting the flavor (sport or religion) that happens to be popular locally and at this period in history. It assumes an opposition which is antagonistic, and that rubs me the same way as the preachers with signs: "Your ideas are stupid, and I am not only right, I am invoking an image (hell, consumption of your icon of belief) that I will win in the end". There is no symbol here of the beliefs of the group, just a symbol of "this other team in our hometown is wrong, and they are going to lose to us". --jw</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-28 23:57:18SolidSender <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 128: </td> <td> Line 128: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *Just was wondering if the artist who created the logo is a lapsed Catholic, since, you know, they are <span>allowed to eat fish on</span> Fridays. Whether they do the other days of the week would perhaps depend on the quality of the cuisine in the restaurants featuring Friday Fish Specials for the penitents. ["Users/SolidSender"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> *Just was wondering if the artist who created the logo is a lapsed Catholic, since, you know, they are <span>only allowed to eat fish on otherwise meatless</span> Fridays. Whether they do the other days of the week would perhaps depend on the quality of the cuisine in the restaurants featuring Friday Fish Specials for the penitents. ["Users/SolidSender"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 133: </td> <td> Line 133: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *Well, if they put up the logo, that simply shows, perhaps, their short-sightedness in interpreting the logo. I've seen fish with the word "Darwin" squeezed inside the sketched body, as if consumed. Perhaps this logo is an elaboration in that symbolic direction in reverse? ["Users/SolidSender"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-28 22:38:17ThanhVu(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 22: </td> <td> Line 22: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> =Officers= </td> <td> <span>+</span> =Officers<span>&nbsp;(2008-2009)</span>= </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-26 11:15:23JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 132: </td> <td> Line 132: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Also, it occurred to me there's a possibility some people might not recognize that as an [http://www.google.com/search?q=Ichthys Ichthys], which is why the AASA emblem always bothered me: defining agnosticism and atheism as contrary ("dining on") or even in any way related to a Christan emblem seems to demean and belittle agnostics and atheists. It also either excludes Christian agnostics (and to a certain extent all theist agnostics) or implies that the group is devoted to Christian agnosticism. --["Users/JabberWokky" Evan 'JabberWokky' Edwards]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Agnostic and Atheist Student Associationhttp://daviswiki.org/Agnostic_and_Atheist_Student_Association2009-05-26 09:55:57JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Agnostic and Atheist Student Association<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 131: </td> <td> Line 131: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * They don't. An Episcopal Conference is the name of all the Bishops in a given area within the Roman Catholic Church. In some respects they are similar to th autocephalous churches of Eastern Orthodox, except of course, Papal Decree always wins. Honestly, if you're interested in this kind of stuff (meaning AASA), it's worth learning about these organizations just because you'll come to realize they are outgrowths of tribes, nations and empires, often motivated by things similar to what motivates today's secular political and volunteer organizations. Of course, I'm a history buff, so I kind of come at it from that direction. --jw </td> <td> <span>+</span> * They don't. An Episcopal Conference is the name of all the Bishops in a given area within the Roman Catholic Church. In some respects they are similar to th<span>e</span> autocephalous churches of Eastern Orthodox, except of course, Papal Decree always wins. Honestly, if you're interested in this kind of stuff (meaning AASA), it's worth learning about these organizations just because you'll come to realize they are outgrowths of tribes, nations and empires, often motivated by things similar to what motivates today's secular political and volunteer organizations. Of course, I'm a history buff, so I kind of come at it from that direction. --jw </td> </tr> </table> </div>