Recent Changes for "BART" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/BARTRecent Changes of the page "BART" on Davis Wiki.en-us BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2013-01-28 12:43:34JabberWokkydid that <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. The Walnut Creek station, as opposed to the North Concord/Martinez station, is right off of the freeway. Also, fares to locations of interest (i.e. SF, Berkeley, Oakland, anywhere except Pittsburg..) will be substantially cheaper to/from the Walnut Creek station as compared to the North Concord/Martinez station. Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours. It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays. </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. The Walnut Creek station, as opposed to the North Concord/Martinez station, is right off of the freeway. Also, fares to locations of interest (i.e. SF, Berkeley, Oakland, anywhere except Pittsburg..) will be substantially cheaper to/from the Walnut Creek station as compared to the North Concord/Martinez station. Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours. It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. <span>Thanksgiving can run six hours. </span>Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2013-01-28 11:58:21JosephEspenaexplanation of why Walnut Creek station is a better place to begin on BART <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p>No differences found!</div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2013-01-28 11:57:37JosephEspenaexplanation of why Walnut Creek station is a better place to begin on BART <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. <span>''</span>W<span>hy? </span> C<span>an someon</span>e exp<span>lain?''</span> Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours. It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays. </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. <span>&nbsp;The </span>W<span>alnut</span> C<span>reek station, as opposed to the North Concord/Martinez station, is right off of the freeway. Also, fares to locations of interest (i.e. SF, Berkeley, Oakland, anywher</span>e ex<span>ce</span>p<span>t Pittsburg..) will be substantially cheaper to/from the Walnut Creek station as compared to the North Concord/Martinez station.</span> Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours. It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2011-05-23 16:01:35SimonFungOakland link <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 10: </td> <td> Line 10: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Amtrak also connects with BART at the Coliseum station in Oakland. </td> <td> <span>+</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Amtrak also connects with BART at the Coliseum station in <span>["</span>Oakland<span>"]</span>. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2011-03-28 21:16:14MaxLucasupdated map with new station <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [[Image(<span>bart</span>systemmap<span>4</span>.gif, right, thumbnail, 400, "Click map to view full size")]] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [[Image(system<span>-</span>map<span>29</span>.gif, right, thumbnail, 400, "Click map to view full size")]] </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2011-03-28 21:14:57MaxLucasUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/BART?action=Files&do=view&target=system-map29.gif">system-map29.gif</a>.BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2009-10-06 03:08:24MaxLucasupdated map <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [[Image(bartsystemmap<span>3</span>.gif, right, thumbnail, 400, "Click map to view full size")]] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [[Image(bartsystemmap<span>4</span>.gif, right, thumbnail, 400, "Click map to view full size")]] </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2009-10-06 03:07:46MaxLucasUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/BART?action=Files&do=view&target=bartsystemmap4.gif">bartsystemmap4.gif</a>.BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2009-10-05 23:03:49whvrgrl <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 6: </td> <td> Line 6: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ||[http://bart.barelyconnected.net]||</span> </td> <td> <span>+ ||[http://tripplanner.transit.511.org/]||</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2009-05-29 10:25:43JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. ''Why? Can someone explain?'' Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours.<span><br> - *</span> It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays. </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. ''Why? Can someone explain?'' Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours. It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays.<span><br> + <br> + Note that in ["2009"], BART stations will no longer have free parking, and will charge $1 per day.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2009-01-08 20:37:16MaxLucasupdated map <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [[Image(bartsystemmap<span>2</span>.gif, right, thumbnail, 400, "Click map to view full size")]] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [[Image(bartsystemmap<span>3</span>.gif, right, thumbnail, 400, "Click map to view full size")]] </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2009-01-08 20:35:48MaxLucasUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/BART?action=Files&do=view&target=bartsystemmap3.gif">bartsystemmap3.gif</a>.BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2009-01-06 21:11:37CovertProfessorjust having a confused sort of day <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours. </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. <span>''Why? Can someone explain?'' </span>Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2008-08-31 12:57:09JasonAllerlink fixes <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 28: </td> <td> Line 28: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + ''2005-06-29 15:30:11'' [[nbsp]] I use BART to go to the city, but it really pains me. It's ridiculously over-expensive. If you're going in a large group of people, it's often cheaper to just drive and even pay up to $25 for parking. Unless there's some certain event, it could possibly be quicker too, depending from what station/line you're on. And obviously, the time of day for the traffic conditions. If only it would be a MUCH more efficient and cheaper public transport, such as Sydney's [http://www.cityrail.info/ CityRail]. God I miss that. It's used much more than Bart, and it can comparatively be less than a quarter of the price. --["Users/EdWins" ES]<br> + * Or like Washington D.C.'s Metro system. Now *that's* public transit--I could easily get from one end of the city to the other in minutes for like a buck and a half. The Metro makes BART look like some Carthaginian pachyderm,<br> + popping you for five bucks each trip. --["Users/LeightonHinkley" TheEl]<br> + * Do you realize that the Washington D.C. area is MUCH SMALLER (and more densely populated) than the Bay area geographically? --["Users/AlexanderWoo"]<br> + * [http://www.nlc.org/about_cities/cities_101/187.cfm No kidding?] I'm talking about getting around within the city of San Francisco itself, not running from Fremont to Richmond. For the former, BART is worthless. --["Users/LeightonHinkley" The El]<br> + * BART is really a semi-suburban commuter system; the public transportation system for getting around SF is Muni. Now I agree Muni sucks. But the same argument still applies: Georgetown to the Capitol is probably the distance from the Financial District to the Castro? And most of SF is 3 stories high or less, and moreover, SF residents work all over the place, not mostly in one downtown. --["Users/AlexanderWoo"]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 29: </td> <td> Line 36: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ''2005-06-29 15:30:11'' [[nbsp]] I use BART to go to the city, but it really pains me. It's ridiculously over-expensive. If you're going in a large group of people, it's often cheaper to just drive and even pay up to $25 for parking. Unless there's some certain event, it could possibly be quicker too, depending from what station/line you're on. And obviously, the time of day for the traffic conditions. If only it would be a MUCH more efficient and cheaper public transport, such as Sydney's [http://www.cityrail.info/ CityRail]. God I miss that. It's used much more than Bart, and it can comparatively be less than a quarter of the price. --["EdWins" ES]<br> - * Or like Washington D.C.'s Metro system. Now *that's* public transit--I could easily get from one end of the city to the other in minutes for like a buck and a half. The Metro makes BART look like some Carthaginian pachyderm,<br> - popping you for five bucks each trip. --["LeightonHinkley" TheEl]<br> - * Do you realize that the Washington D.C. area is MUCH SMALLER (and more densely populated) than the Bay area geographically? --["AlexanderWoo"]<br> - * [http://www.nlc.org/about_cities/cities_101/187.cfm No kidding?] I'm talking about getting around within the city of San Francisco itself, not running from Fremont to Richmond. For the former, BART is worthless. --["LeightonHinkley" The El]<br> - * BART is really a semi-suburban commuter system; the public transportation system for getting around SF is Muni. Now I agree Muni sucks. But the same argument still applies: Georgetown to the Capitol is probably the distance from the Financial District to the Castro? And most of SF is 3 stories high or less, and moreover, SF residents work all over the place, not mostly in one downtown. --["AlexanderWoo"]<br> - <br> - ------<br> - ''2005-11-21 22:47:09'' [[nbsp]] I disagree. BART is worth the money for its reliability and speed. It does get a little expensive when you cross the Bay Bridge, but it is hardly more expensive than driving. If you're going downtown or to the Civic Center, definitely take BART over driving. If you're carpooling with enough people, then okay, that might be worth it. Only because you'd be distributing the cost, though. --["NumiaCairaguas"]<br> - * Have you used comparable transport elsewhere? I forgot to mention DC's metro, I grew up there, nice call Leighton. BART is ridiculous, those two blow it out of the water. It's definitly overpriced. -["EdWins" ES]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ ''2005-11-21 22:47:09'' [[nbsp]] I disagree. BART is worth the money for its reliability and speed. It does get a little expensive when you cross the Bay Bridge, but it is hardly more expensive than driving. If you're going downtown or to the Civic Center, definitely take BART over driving. If you're carpooling with enough people, then okay, that might be worth it. Only because you'd be distributing the cost, though. --["Users/NumiaCairaguas"]<br> + * Have you used comparable transport elsewhere? I forgot to mention DC's metro, I grew up there, nice call Leighton. BART is ridiculous, those two blow it out of the water. It's definitly overpriced. -["Users/EdWins" ES]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 41: </td> <td> Line 40: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2005-11-22 03:55:16'' [[nbsp]] I used to take bart between balboa and embarcadero every day for school. One day, i fell asleep on the way home and ended up in pitsburg. Be carefull of falling asleep on bart. --["AlexEley"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2005-11-22 03:55:16'' [[nbsp]] I used to take bart between balboa and embarcadero every day for school. One day, i fell asleep on the way home and ended up in pitsburg. Be carefull of falling asleep on bart. --["<span>Users/</span>AlexEley"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 43: </td> <td> Line 42: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2005-11-23 14:11:00'' [[nbsp]] how many miles is the DC line? I recall that it was a nice system, but not many miles of line. (especially compared to BART) --["RocksandDirt"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2005-11-23 14:11:00'' [[nbsp]] how many miles is the DC line? I recall that it was a nice system, but not many miles of line. (especially compared to BART) --["<span>Users/</span>RocksandDirt"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 49: </td> <td> Line 48: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> You can take a train right from the Domestic Terminal of the airport out towards the [http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/ Blue mountains]. The farthest stop on that particular line that I can remember costs $34.80 adult, $19.70 student. Aussie Bucks. That's $25 bucks for a one way adult, ''$14.3'' for a student. Airport to the mountains. That's ''240 kilometers''. From the SF airport to Dublin costs $7.10. This is why I also don't like Amtrak. It costs me 12 or 13 bucks to go from Davis to Martinez - one way, some 40 to 50 miles? Give me a break. I'd much rather go to those beautiful mountains and take a [http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=jenolan%20caves&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi cave]tour. -["EdWins" ES] </td> <td> <span>+</span> You can take a train right from the Domestic Terminal of the airport out towards the [http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/ Blue mountains]. The farthest stop on that particular line that I can remember costs $34.80 adult, $19.70 student. Aussie Bucks. That's $25 bucks for a one way adult, ''$14.3'' for a student. Airport to the mountains. That's ''240 kilometers''. From the SF airport to Dublin costs $7.10. This is why I also don't like Amtrak. It costs me 12 or 13 bucks to go from Davis to Martinez - one way, some 40 to 50 miles? Give me a break. I'd much rather go to those beautiful mountains and take a [http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=jenolan%20caves&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi cave]tour. -["<span>Users/</span>EdWins" ES] </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2008-07-01 14:30:47briangoldnerComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 51: </td> <td> Line 51: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2008-07-01 14:30:47'' [[nbsp]] so, comparing BART to city rail:<br> + Lidcombe to Circular Quay- 12.7 miles- single (peak) ticket- $3.63USD, round trip (peak) $7.26, roundtrip (offpeak) $4.96<br> + Downtown Berkeley to Civic Center 12.7 miles- $3.40<br> + Some notes: Berkeley to downtown is going to be expensive and take a while to drive b/c of the Bay Bridge. Also, BART's infrastructure is expensive in that area on account of the transbay tube. BART's fares are expensive compared to other vendors (even though their peak oneway is less than City Rail) but BART has a lot of challenges to contend with, such as crossing the bay and making sure all structures are earthquake proof.<br> + That being said, this comparison suggests that BART is very competitive in one way peak fares, but City rail (an other vendors) offer cheaper services when one is traveling off peak, or when one procures a multi-trip ticket. Perhaps then, BART could boost ridership and revenues by being more creative with their fare structure. Either they can offer multi-ride tickets, or perhaps they can reduce the fare of off-peak travel, especially considering the fact that auto-congestion is lower during non-peak times, making car travel more attractive then anyway --["Users/briangoldner"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2007-06-28 11:37:29EdWinslink edits <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 29: </td> <td> Line 29: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2005-06-29 15:30:11'' [[nbsp]] I use BART to go to the city, but it really pains me. It's ridiculously over-expensive. If you're going in a large group of people, it's often cheaper to just drive and even pay up to $25 for parking. Unless there's some certain event, it could possibly be quicker too, depending from what station/line you're on. And obviously, the time of day for the traffic conditions. If only it would be a MUCH more efficient and cheaper public transport, such as Sydney's [http://www.cityrail.info/ CityRail]. God I miss that. It's used much more than Bart, and it can comparatively be less than a quarter of the price. --["Ed<span>win</span>S<span>aada" ed</span>] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2005-06-29 15:30:11'' [[nbsp]] I use BART to go to the city, but it really pains me. It's ridiculously over-expensive. If you're going in a large group of people, it's often cheaper to just drive and even pay up to $25 for parking. Unless there's some certain event, it could possibly be quicker too, depending from what station/line you're on. And obviously, the time of day for the traffic conditions. If only it would be a MUCH more efficient and cheaper public transport, such as Sydney's [http://www.cityrail.info/ CityRail]. God I miss that. It's used much more than Bart, and it can comparatively be less than a quarter of the price. --["Ed<span>Wins" E</span>S] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 38: </td> <td> Line 38: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Have you used comparable transport elsewhere? I forgot to mention DC's metro, I grew up there, nice call Leighton. BART is ridiculous, those two blow it out of the water. It's definitly overpriced. -["<span>edwinSaada</span>" ES] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Have you used comparable transport elsewhere? I forgot to mention DC's metro, I grew up there, nice call Leighton. BART is ridiculous, those two blow it out of the water. It's definitly overpriced. -["<span>EdWins</span>" ES] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 49: </td> <td> Line 49: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> You can take a train right from the Domestic Terminal of the airport out towards the [http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/ Blue mountains]. The farthest stop on that particular line that I can remember costs $34.80 adult, $19.70 student. Aussie Bucks. That's $25 bucks for a one way adult, ''$14.3'' for a student. Airport to the mountains. That's ''240 kilometers''. From the SF airport to Dublin costs $7.10. This is why I also don't like Amtrak. It costs me 12 or 13 bucks to go from Davis to Martinez - one way, some 40 to 50 miles? Give me a break. I'd much rather go to those beautiful mountains and take a [http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=jenolan%20caves&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi cave]tour. -["Ed<span>winSaada</span>" ES]---- </td> <td> <span>+</span> You can take a train right from the Domestic Terminal of the airport out towards the [http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/ Blue mountains]. The farthest stop on that particular line that I can remember costs $34.80 adult, $19.70 student. Aussie Bucks. That's $25 bucks for a one way adult, ''$14.3'' for a student. Airport to the mountains. That's ''240 kilometers''. From the SF airport to Dublin costs $7.10. This is why I also don't like Amtrak. It costs me 12 or 13 bucks to go from Davis to Martinez - one way, some 40 to 50 miles? Give me a break. I'd much rather go to those beautiful mountains and take a [http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=jenolan%20caves&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi cave]tour. -["Ed<span>Wins</span>" ES]<span><br> + </span>---- </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-12-17 01:39:09NickSchmalenbergercorrect wiki link <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 8: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>heavy rail</span> system that runs both above and below ground (and water). It serves ["San Francisco"] and most of the East Bay. Parts of the ["Bay Area"] not served by BART are Marin, Sonoma, Solano, and Napa Counties, and the Peninsula south of Millbrae. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>[wiki:WikiPedia:Heavy_rail heavy rail]</span> system that runs both above and below ground (and water). It serves ["San Francisco"] and most of the East Bay. Parts of the ["Bay Area"] not served by BART are Marin, Sonoma, Solano, and Napa Counties, and the Peninsula south of Millbrae. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-12-16 23:24:56RussellReagan <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 25: </td> <td> Line 25: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- [[Include(PhotoRequest)]]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ [[Image(bart_train_at_millbrae.jpg)]]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-12-16 23:22:50RussellReaganUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/BART?action=Files&do=view&target=bart_train_at_millbrae.jpg">bart_train_at_millbrae.jpg</a>.BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-12-16 23:18:22RussellReagan <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 14: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> If you are riding Amtrak <span>and</span> BART <span>to get to the East Bay</span> south of Oakland<span>&nbsp;(including</span> Dublin/Pleasanton<span>), then</span> purchase your Amtrak ticket to the Oakland Coliseum station and transfer to BART there. For Berkeley, San Francisco, San Francisco Airport, and intermediate destinations, Richmond is the best station to transfer to BART. </td> <td> <span>+</span> If you are riding Amtrak <span>to get to a</span> BART <span>station</span> south of Oakland<span>, especially</span> Dublin/Pleasanton<span>, you may wish to</span> purchase your Amtrak ticket to the Oakland Coliseum station and transfer to BART there<span>. However, make sure the Amtrak train goes there at the time you are travelling, as not all Amtrak trains go that far. For Castro Valley and Dublin/Pleasanton, you avoid two BART train changes by changing at the Coliseum station</span>. For Berkeley, San Francisco, San Francisco Airport, and intermediate destinations, Richmond is the best station to transfer to BART. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-12-15 21:41:37EdwinSaadano article. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 8: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>[wiki:WikiPedia:H</span>eavy<span>_Rail heavy rail]</span> system that runs both above and below ground (and water). It serves ["San Francisco"] and most of the East Bay. Parts of the ["Bay Area"] not served by BART are Marin, Sonoma, Solano, and Napa Counties, and the Peninsula south of Millbrae. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>h</span>eavy<span>&nbsp;rail</span> system that runs both above and below ground (and water). It serves ["San Francisco"] and most of the East Bay. Parts of the ["Bay Area"] not served by BART are Marin, Sonoma, Solano, and Napa Counties, and the Peninsula south of Millbrae. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-12-15 21:28:34NickSchmalenbergerwiki link <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 8: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>heavy rail</span> system that runs both above and below ground (and water). It serves ["San Francisco"] and most of the East Bay. Parts of the ["Bay Area"] not served by BART are Marin, Sonoma, Solano, and Napa Counties, and the Peninsula south of Millbrae. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>[wiki:WikiPedia:Heavy_Rail heavy rail]</span> system that runs both above and below ground (and water). It serves ["San Francisco"] and most of the East Bay. Parts of the ["Bay Area"] not served by BART are Marin, Sonoma, Solano, and Napa Counties, and the Peninsula south of Millbrae. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-12-14 18:34:37RussellReagan <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 8: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A heavy rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water). BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into ["San Francisco"]. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details. In addition, ["Amtrak"] sells $10 BART tickets for only $8 the Cafe Car. You can buy up to a maximum of two tickets per trip.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A heavy rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water). It serves ["San Francisco"] and most of the East Bay. Parts of the ["Bay Area"] not served by BART are Marin, Sonoma, Solano, and Napa Counties, and the Peninsula south of Millbrae.<br> + <br> + BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Amtrak also connects with BART at the Coliseum station in Oakland.<br> + <br> + ["Amtrak"] has its own connector bus to ["San Francisco"], for which you buy a single ticket from Davis. To reach San Francisco from BART in Richmond, board any in-service BART train. If its destination is "Fremont," you have to change trains at MacArthur station. Most of the time, about half of the trains from Richmond go directly to San Francisco. A ticket agent who can explain the relevant options is usually on duty, or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details. ["Amtrak"] sells $10 BART tickets for only $8 the Cafe Car. You can buy up to a maximum of two tickets per trip.<br> + <br> + If you are riding Amtrak and BART to get to the East Bay south of Oakland (including Dublin/Pleasanton), then purchase your Amtrak ticket to the Oakland Coliseum station and transfer to BART there. For Berkeley, San Francisco, San Francisco Airport, and intermediate destinations, Richmond is the best station to transfer to BART.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-12-14 17:47:00EdwinSaadalink info. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 33: </td> <td> Line 33: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> * [http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/01/BAG32CIDA21.DTL] </td> <td> <span>+</span> *<span>&nbsp;Yup:</span> [http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/01/BAG32CIDA21.DTL]<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;(From the SF Chronicle: '' BART fares poorly in cost comparison. Rail riders elsewhere pay less, even before proposed increases'' May2005).</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-09-04 20:12:41JasonAllerPhilip, can you get a photo of a Bart train? <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ [[Image(bartsystemmap2.gif, right, thumbnail, 400, "Click map to view full size")]]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ||&lt;bgcolor='#E0E0FF'&gt;'''Trip planning web tool'''||<br> + ||[http://bart.barelyconnected.net]||</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - [[Image(bartsystemmap2.gif)]]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ [[Include(PhotoRequest)]]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 20: </td> <td> Line 24: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Or like Washington D.C.'s Metro system. Now *that's* public transit--I could easily get from one end of the city to the other in minutes for like a buck and a half. The Metro makes BART look like some Carthaginian pachyderm,<span>&nbsp;</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Or like Washington D.C.'s Metro system. Now *that's* public transit--I could easily get from one end of the city to the other in minutes for like a buck and a half. The Metro makes BART look like some Carthaginian pachyderm, </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 37: </td> <td> Line 41: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> While SF does has muni, muni is for city only. True you can take Caltrain and other things, but it doesn't add up the same way. Look at anyone in the East Bay trying to get somewhere. Sydney has it down damn well, it's far cheaper, far more efficient, used by everyone, not plagued with the problems BART and Amtrak have with moola, and it's not just city/local transport. You can really use it to get places. Check the [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp map] again. If you ever extensively use CityRail (and you will if you ever visit Sydney), you'll never be able to take BART or anything else again.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> While SF does has muni, muni is for city only. True you can take Caltrain and other things, but it doesn't add up the same way. Look at anyone in the East Bay trying to get somewhere. Sydney has it down damn well, it's far cheaper, far more efficient, used by everyone, not plagued with the problems BART and Amtrak have with moola, and it's not just city/local transport. You can really use it to get places. Check the [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp map] again. If you ever extensively use CityRail (and you will if you ever visit Sydney), you'll never be able to take BART or anything else again. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-01-13 17:07:57TarZxfIt's heavy, just not standard gague. Wider stance=lower center of gravity, SPEED <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>light-</span>rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water).<span><br> -</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into ["San Francisco"]. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details. In addition, ["Amtrak"] sells $10 BART tickets for only $8 the Cafe Car. You can buy up to a maximum of two tickets per trip. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>heavy </span>rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water). BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into ["San Francisco"]. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details. In addition, ["Amtrak"] sells $10 BART tickets for only $8 the Cafe Car. You can buy up to a maximum of two tickets per trip. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 7: </td> <td> Line 6: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> a<span>ttachm</span>e<span>nt:</span>bartsystemmap2.gif </td> <td> <span>+</span> <span>[[Im</span>a<span>g</span>e<span>(</span>bartsystemmap2.gif<span>)]]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ["Amtrak"] lists BART connections and schedules on their site, making it a one stop shop for planning Bay area trips sans car. <span><br> -</span> ["Bicycles"] are allowed on BART, except during certain peak hours or on crowded cars. </td> <td> <span>+</span> ["Amtrak"] lists BART connections and schedules on their site, making it a one stop shop for planning Bay area trips sans car. ["Bicycles"] are allowed on BART, except during certain peak hours or on crowded cars. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 37: </td> <td> Line 35: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2005-11-23 17:30:00''I don't really remember about DC, been too long. But as I said, [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp City Rail] blows BART out of the water. Baseline much cheaper, and more of a range. Sydney also has bus services which a lot of people use in conjunction with the train. Everyone in fact; nobody really drives to work. It's way more flexible. Student prices, yay. "Family fares" - If the adult has more then one kid, he only has to pay for one of them. And "kid" defines up to age 16. <span><br> -</span> A "city" ticket counts all 8 city stops, and you can go from one to the other and back and forth as much as you want. Whereas it's a $9.40 round trip to Embarcadero from Dublin, and more if I want to go to the Civic center. From Fairfield to the City costs 3.35 (US dollars) and that's a 45/50mile round trip. Also, a ticket really ''is'' a boon to tourists. Discounted entrance to the zoo, the Olympic Stadium, aquarium, and other things, like ferries (even commuting ferries). </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2005-11-23 17:30:00''I don't really remember about DC, been too long. But as I said, [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp City Rail] blows BART out of the water. Baseline much cheaper, and more of a range. Sydney also has bus services which a lot of people use in conjunction with the train. Everyone in fact; nobody really drives to work. It's way more flexible. Student prices, yay. "Family fares" - If the adult has more then one kid, he only has to pay for one of them. And "kid" defines up to age 16. A "city" ticket counts all 8 city stops, and you can go from one to the other and back and forth as much as you want. Whereas it's a $9.40 round trip to Embarcadero from Dublin, and more if I want to go to the Civic center. From Fairfield to the City costs 3.35 (US dollars) and that's a 45/50mile round trip. Also, a ticket really ''is'' a boon to tourists. Discounted entrance to the zoo, the Olympic Stadium, aquarium, and other things, like ferries (even commuting ferries). </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-01-13 12:35:33SteveDavisoneasy to find web link, also heavy rail is 4'8", this is 5'6" gauge <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A h<span>eavy</span>-rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water). </td> <td> <span>+ ||&lt;bgcolor='#E0E0FF'&gt;'''Website'''||<br> + ||[http://bart.gov]||<br> + <br> +</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>lig</span>h<span>t</span>-rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water). </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 6: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- System map by William Bright, ipodsubwaymaps.com<br> - <br> -</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. <span>&nbsp;</span>Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours.<br> <span>-</span> * It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek.<span>&nbsp;</span> Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays. </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours.<br> <span>+</span> * It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- [http://www.bart.gov/ Official BART Website] [[BR]]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-01-12 17:48:20DussonYeungUploaded non-copyrighted system map <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 3: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + attachment:bartsystemmap2.gif<br> + <br> + System map by William Bright, ipodsubwaymaps.com</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-01-12 17:34:25DussonYeungUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/BART?action=Files&do=view&target=bartsystemmap2.gif">bartsystemmap2.gif</a>.BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-01-12 17:16:49ArlenAbrahammap copyrighted. bart has sued people over use of their map. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 3: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - <br> - attachment:bartsystemmap.gif</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-01-12 02:57:10JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 30: </td> <td> Line 30: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * [http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/01/BAG32CIDA21.DTL]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-01-12 02:42:34DussonYeungupdated system map <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>light</span>-rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water).<br> <span>-</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into ["San Francisco"]. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A <span>heavy</span>-rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water).<br> <span>+</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into ["San Francisco"]. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details.<span>&nbsp;In addition, ["Amtrak"] sells $10 BART tickets for only $8 the Cafe Car. You can buy up to a maximum of two tickets per trip.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> attachment:map<span>500</span>.gif </td> <td> <span>+ <br> +</span> attachment:<span>bartsystem</span>map.gif </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 12: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ["Amtrak"] lists BART connections and schedules on their site, making it a one stop shop for planning Bay area trips sans car.<span><br> -</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> ["Amtrak"] lists BART connections and schedules on their site, making it a one stop shop for planning Bay area trips sans car. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2006-01-12 02:31:30DussonYeungUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/BART?action=Files&do=view&target=bartsystemmap.gif">bartsystemmap.gif</a>.BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-23 17:36:27EdwinSaadalink add. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 40: </td> <td> Line 40: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> You can take a train right from the Domestic Terminal of the airport out towards the [http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/ Blue mountains]. $34.80 adult, $19.70 student. Aussie Bucks<span>&nbsp;- &gt;</span> $25 bucks for a one way adult, $14.3 for a student. Airport to the mountains. That's ''240 kilometers''. From the SF airport to Dublin costs $7.10. This is why I also don't like <span>a</span>mtrak. It costs me 12 or 13 bucks to go from Davis to Martinez - one way, some 40 to 50 miles? Give me a break. -["EdwinSaada" ES]---- </td> <td> <span>+</span> You can take a train right from the Domestic Terminal of the airport out towards the [http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/ Blue mountains]. <span>The farthest stop on that particular line that I can remember costs</span> $34.80 adult, $19.70 student. Aussie Bucks<span>. That's</span> $25 bucks for a one way adult, <span>''</span>$14.3<span>''</span> for a student. Airport to the mountains. That's ''240 kilometers''. From the SF airport to Dublin costs $7.10. This is why I also don't like <span>A</span>mtrak. It costs me 12 or 13 bucks to go from Davis to Martinez - one way, some 40 to 50 miles? Give me a break<span>. I'd much rather go to those beautiful mountains and take a [http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=jenolan%20caves&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi cave]tour</span>. -["EdwinSaada" ES]---- </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-23 17:33:56EdwinSaada <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 35: </td> <td> Line 35: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> -<span>&nbsp;</span>I don't really remember about DC, been too long. But as I said, [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp City Rail] blows BART out of the water. Baseline much cheaper, and more of a range. Sydney also has bus services which a lot of people use in conjunction with the train. Everyone in fact; nobody really drives to work. It's way more flexible. Student prices, yay. "Family fares" - If the adult has more then one kid, he only has to pay for one of them. And "kid" defines up to age 16. <br> <span>-</span> A "city" ticket counts all 8 city stops, and you can go from one to the other and back and forth as much as you want. Whereas it's a $9.40 round trip to Embarcadero from Dublin, and more if I want to go to the Civic center. From Fairfield to the City costs 3.35 (US dollars) and that's a <span>2</span>5<span>&nbsp;</span>mile round trip. Also, a ticket really <span>is</span> a boon to tourists. Discounted entrance to the zoo, the Olympic Stadium, aquarium, and other things, like ferries (even commuting ferries) </td> <td> <span>+ ''2005</span>-<span>11-23 17:30:00''</span>I don't really remember about DC, been too long. But as I said, [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp City Rail] blows BART out of the water. Baseline much cheaper, and more of a range. Sydney also has bus services which a lot of people use in conjunction with the train. Everyone in fact; nobody really drives to work. It's way more flexible. Student prices, yay. "Family fares" - If the adult has more then one kid, he only has to pay for one of them. And "kid" defines up to age 16. <br> <span>+</span> A "city" ticket counts all 8 city stops, and you can go from one to the other and back and forth as much as you want. Whereas it's a $9.40 round trip to Embarcadero from Dublin, and more if I want to go to the Civic center. From Fairfield to the City costs 3.35 (US dollars) and that's a <span>4</span>5<span>/50</span>mile round trip. Also, a ticket really <span>''is''</span> a boon to tourists. Discounted entrance to the zoo, the Olympic Stadium, aquarium, and other things, like ferries (even commuting ferries)<span>.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 38: </td> <td> Line 38: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> While SF does has muni, muni is for city only. True you can take Caltrain and other things, but it doesn't add up the same way. Sydney has it down damn well, it's far cheaper, far more efficient, used by everyone, not plagued with the problems BART and Amtrak have with moola, and it's not just city/local transport. Check the [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp map] again. If you ever extensively use CityRail (and you will if you ever visit Sydney), you'll never be able to take BART or anything else again. </td> <td> <span>+</span> While SF does has muni, muni is for city only. True you can take Caltrain and other things, but it doesn't add up the same way<span>. Look at anyone in the East Bay trying to get somewhere</span>. Sydney has it down damn well, it's far cheaper, far more efficient, used by everyone, not plagued with the problems BART and Amtrak have with moola, and it's not just city/local transport. <span>You can really use it to get places. </span> Check the [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp map] again. If you ever extensively use CityRail (and you will if you ever visit Sydney), you'll never be able to take BART or anything else again. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 40: </td> <td> Line 40: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> You can take a train right from the Domestic Terminal of the airport out towards the [http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/ Blue mountains]. $34.80 adult, $19.70 student. Aussie Bucks - &gt; $25 bucks for a one way adult, $14.3 for a student. Airport to the mountains. That's ''240 kilometers''. From the SF airport to Dublin costs $7.10. This is why I also don't like amtrak. It costs me 12 or 13 bucks to go from Davis to Martinez - one way, some 40 to 50 miles? Give me a break. -["EdwinSaada" ES]<span><br> - ----</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> You can take a train right from the Domestic Terminal of the airport out towards the [http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/ Blue mountains]. $34.80 adult, $19.70 student. Aussie Bucks - &gt; $25 bucks for a one way adult, $14.3 for a student. Airport to the mountains. That's ''240 kilometers''. From the SF airport to Dublin costs $7.10. This is why I also don't like amtrak. It costs me 12 or 13 bucks to go from Davis to Martinez - one way, some 40 to 50 miles? Give me a break. -["EdwinSaada" ES]<span>----</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-23 17:25:00EdwinSaadaoverly lengthy reply <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 34: </td> <td> Line 34: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + I don't really remember about DC, been too long. But as I said, [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp City Rail] blows BART out of the water. Baseline much cheaper, and more of a range. Sydney also has bus services which a lot of people use in conjunction with the train. Everyone in fact; nobody really drives to work. It's way more flexible. Student prices, yay. "Family fares" - If the adult has more then one kid, he only has to pay for one of them. And "kid" defines up to age 16. <br> + A "city" ticket counts all 8 city stops, and you can go from one to the other and back and forth as much as you want. Whereas it's a $9.40 round trip to Embarcadero from Dublin, and more if I want to go to the Civic center. From Fairfield to the City costs 3.35 (US dollars) and that's a 25 mile round trip. Also, a ticket really is a boon to tourists. Discounted entrance to the zoo, the Olympic Stadium, aquarium, and other things, like ferries (even commuting ferries)<br> + <br> + While SF does has muni, muni is for city only. True you can take Caltrain and other things, but it doesn't add up the same way. Sydney has it down damn well, it's far cheaper, far more efficient, used by everyone, not plagued with the problems BART and Amtrak have with moola, and it's not just city/local transport. Check the [http://cityrail.com/networkmaps/mainmap.jsp map] again. If you ever extensively use CityRail (and you will if you ever visit Sydney), you'll never be able to take BART or anything else again. <br> + <br> + You can take a train right from the Domestic Terminal of the airport out towards the [http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/ Blue mountains]. $34.80 adult, $19.70 student. Aussie Bucks - &gt; $25 bucks for a one way adult, $14.3 for a student. Airport to the mountains. That's ''240 kilometers''. From the SF airport to Dublin costs $7.10. This is why I also don't like amtrak. It costs me 12 or 13 bucks to go from Davis to Martinez - one way, some 40 to 50 miles? Give me a break. -["EdwinSaada" ES]<br> + ----</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-23 17:06:41GrahamFreemanRemoved outdated paragraph about BART strike. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 18: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- There is also a BART strike scheduled for July 6th, 2005, which is expected to be devastating in a [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/29/MNbart29.DTL worst case scenario] to Bay Area traffic. Quote: ''Commute times from Pittsburg to Interstate 80 via Highway 4 could jump to 165 minutes instead of the usual 30 minutes, while travel times from I-680 to Highway 13, via Highway 24, would go from 24 minutes to as high as 195 minutes, the report said.'' Ouch!<br> - </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-23 16:13:02AlexanderWoo <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 27: </td> <td> Line 27: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * BART is really a semi-suburban commuter system; the public transportation system for getting around SF is Muni. Now I agree Muni sucks. But the same argument still applies: Georgetown to the Capitol is probably the distance from the Financial District to the Castro? And most of SF is 3 stories high or less, and moreover, SF residents work all over the place, not mostly in one downtown. --["AlexanderWoo"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-23 15:28:36LeightonHinkleyCelebrating over 30 years of suck. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 26: </td> <td> Line 26: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * [http://www.nlc.org/about_cities/cities_101/187.cfm No kidding?] I'm talking about getting around within the city of San Francisco itself, not running from Fremont to Richmond. For the former, BART is worthless. --["LeightonHinkley" The El]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-23 14:11:00RocksandDirtComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 31: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2005-11-23 14:11:00'' [[nbsp]] how many miles is the DC line? I recall that it was a nice system, but not many miles of line. (especially compared to BART) --["RocksandDirt"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-23 13:45:32AlexanderWoo <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 23: </td> <td> Line 23: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> Or like Washington D.C.'s Metro system. Now *that's* public transit--I could easily get from one end of the city to the other in minutes for like a buck and a half. The Metro makes BART look like some Carthaginian pachyderm, </td> <td> <span>+ *</span> Or like Washington D.C.'s Metro system. Now *that's* public transit--I could easily get from one end of the city to the other in minutes for like a buck and a half. The Metro makes BART look like some Carthaginian pachyderm, </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 25: </td> <td> Line 25: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Do you realize that the Washington D.C. area is MUCH SMALLER (and more densely populated) than the Bay area geographically? --["AlexanderWoo"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-22 10:01:21EdwinSaadarply <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 27: </td> <td> Line 27: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Have you used comparable transport elsewhere? I forgot to mention DC's metro, I grew up there, nice call Leighton. BART is ridiculous, those two blow it out of the water. It's definitly overpriced. -["edwinSaada" ES]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-22 03:55:16AlexEleyComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 27: </td> <td> Line 27: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2005-11-22 03:55:16'' [[nbsp]] I used to take bart between balboa and embarcadero every day for school. One day, i fell asleep on the way home and ended up in pitsburg. Be carefull of falling asleep on bart. --["AlexEley"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-22 00:42:36LeightonHinkleybuck FART <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 23: </td> <td> Line 23: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Or like Washington D.C.'s Metro system. Now *that's* public transit--I could easily get from one end of the city to the other in minutes for like a buck and a half. The Metro makes BART look like some Carthaginian pachyderm, <br> + popping you for five bucks each trip. --["LeightonHinkley" TheEl]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-21 22:51:29NumiaCairaguas <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 24: </td> <td> Line 24: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2005-11-21 22:47:09'' [[nbsp]] I disagree. BART is worth <span>it</span> for its reliability and speed. It does get a little expensive when you cross the Bay Bridge, but it is hardly<span>&nbsp;ever</span> more expensive than driving. If you're going downtown or to the Civic Center, definitely take BART over driving. If you're carpooling with enough people, then okay, that might be worth it. --["NumiaCairaguas"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2005-11-21 22:47:09'' [[nbsp]] I disagree. BART is worth <span>the money</span> for its reliability and speed. It does get a little expensive when you cross the Bay Bridge, but it is hardly more expensive than driving. If you're going downtown or to the Civic Center, definitely take BART over driving. If you're carpooling with enough people, then okay, that might be worth it<span>. Only because you'd be distributing the cost, though</span>. --["NumiaCairaguas"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-21 22:49:35NumiaCairaguas <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 24: </td> <td> Line 24: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2005-11-21 22:47:09'' [[nbsp]] I disagree. BART is worth it for its reliability and speed. It does get a little expensive when you cross the Bay Bridge, but it <span>will never be</span> more expensive than driving. If you're going downtown or to the Civic Center, definitely take BART over driving. --["NumiaCairaguas"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2005-11-21 22:47:09'' [[nbsp]] I disagree. BART is worth it for its reliability and speed. It does get a little expensive when you cross the Bay Bridge, but it <span>is hardly ever</span> more expensive than driving. If you're going downtown or to the Civic Center, definitely take BART over driving<span>. If you're carpooling with enough people, then okay, that might be worth it</span>. --["NumiaCairaguas"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-11-21 22:47:09NumiaCairaguasComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 23: </td> <td> Line 23: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2005-11-21 22:47:09'' [[nbsp]] I disagree. BART is worth it for its reliability and speed. It does get a little expensive when you cross the Bay Bridge, but it will never be more expensive than driving. If you're going downtown or to the Civic Center, definitely take BART over driving. --["NumiaCairaguas"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-09-10 12:38:08SimonFung <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 15: </td> <td> Line 15: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [http://www.bart.gov/ Official BART Website] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [http://www.bart.gov/ Official BART Website]<span>&nbsp;[[BR]]<br> + [wiki:WikiPedia:BART Wikipedia Entry]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-08-31 01:00:04JasonAller <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into San Francisco. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details. </td> <td> <span>+</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into <span>["</span>San Francisco<span>"]</span>. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-07-11 04:19:28BirdChan"betweeb" -> "between" (just a word change) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 9: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Note that BART stops running fairly early at night. The final train every night goes through San Francisco betwee<span>b</span> about midnight and 12:30 AM, through Oakland between about 12:30 AM and 12:45 AM, and arrives at the Walnut Creek station at 1:04 AM. If you plan on attending an event that ends late (especially something like a concert that could run late past the official end time), it is a good idea to know the last BART available. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Note that BART stops running fairly early at night. The final train every night goes through San Francisco betwee<span>n</span> about midnight and 12:30 AM, through Oakland between about 12:30 AM and 12:45 AM, and arrives at the Walnut Creek station at 1:04 AM. If you plan on attending an event that ends late (especially something like a concert that could run late past the official end time), it is a good idea to know the last BART available. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-06-29 15:41:52EdwinSaada+strike info, +more whining <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ There is also a BART strike scheduled for July 6th, 2005, which is expected to be devastating in a [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/29/MNbart29.DTL worst case scenario] to Bay Area traffic. Quote: ''Commute times from Pittsburg to Interstate 80 via Highway 4 could jump to 165 minutes instead of the usual 30 minutes, while travel times from I-680 to Highway 13, via Highway 24, would go from 24 minutes to as high as 195 minutes, the report said.'' Ouch!<br> + </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2005-06-29 15:30:11'' [[nbsp]] I use BART to go to the city, but it really pains me. It's ridiculously over-expensive. If you're going in a large group of people, it's often cheaper to just drive and even pay up to $25 for parking. Unless there's some certain event, it could possibly be quicker too, depending from what station/line you're on. And obviously, the time of day for the traffic conditions. If only it would be a MUCH more efficient and cheaper public <span>service</span>, such as Sydney's [http://www.cityrail.info/]. God I miss that. It's used <span>a zillion times</span> more than Bart, and it can comparatively be less than a quarter of the price.<span>&nbsp;</span> --["EdwinSaada"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2005-06-29 15:30:11'' [[nbsp]] I use BART to go to the city, but it really pains me. It's ridiculously over-expensive. If you're going in a large group of people, it's often cheaper to just drive and even pay up to $25 for parking. Unless there's some certain event, it could possibly be quicker too, depending from what station/line you're on. And obviously, the time of day for the traffic conditions. If only it would be a MUCH more efficient and cheaper public <span>transport</span>, such as Sydney's [http://www.cityrail.info/<span>&nbsp;CityRail</span>]. God I miss that. It's used <span>much</span> more than Bart, and it can comparatively be less than a quarter of the price. --["EdwinSaada"<span>&nbsp;ed</span>] </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-06-29 15:34:51EdwinSaada<3 sydney australia. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2005-06-29 15:30:11'' [[nbsp]] I use BART to go to the city, but it really pains me. It's ridiculously over-expensive. If you're going in a large group of people, it's often cheaper to just drive and even pay up to $25 for parking. <span>&nbsp;</span> --["EdwinSaada"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2005-06-29 15:30:11'' [[nbsp]] I use BART to go to the city, but it really pains me. It's ridiculously over-expensive. If you're going in a large group of people, it's often cheaper to just drive and even pay up to $25 for parking. <span>Unless there's some certain event, it could possibly be quicker too, depending from what station/line you're on. And obviously, the time of day for the traffic conditions. If only it would be a MUCH more efficient and cheaper public service, such as Sydney's [http://www.cityrail.info/]. God I miss that. It's used a zillion times more than Bart, and it can comparatively be less than a quarter of the price.</span> --["EdwinSaada"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-06-29 15:30:11EdwinSaadaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 18: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2005-06-29 15:30:11'' [[nbsp]] I use BART to go to the city, but it really pains me. It's ridiculously over-expensive. If you're going in a large group of people, it's often cheaper to just drive and even pay up to $25 for parking. --["EdwinSaada"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-06-29 15:26:43EdwinSaada <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + [[Comments]]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-06-29 15:25:02ArlenAbrahamgov't org, fair use <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 3: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + attachment:map500.gif</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-06-29 15:23:41ArlenAbrahamUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/BART?action=Files&do=view&target=map500.gif">map500.gif</a>.BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-03-22 11:42:17JabberWokkyRevert to version dated 2005-01-26 03:06:31. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- '''B'''ay[[nbsp]]'''A'''rea[[nbsp]]'''R'''apid[[nbsp]]'''T'''ransit.[[nbsp]]A[[nbsp]]light-rail[[nbsp]]system[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]runs[[nbsp]]both[[nbsp]]above[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]below[[nbsp]]ground[[nbsp]](and[[nbsp]]water).<br> - BART[[nbsp]]is[[nbsp]]accessible[[nbsp]]across[[nbsp]]from[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]["Amtrak" Amtrak][[nbsp]]station[[nbsp]]platform[[nbsp]]in[[nbsp]]Richmond,[[nbsp]]granting[[nbsp]]car-free[[nbsp]]access[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]rest[[nbsp]]of[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]["Bay Area" Bay_Area].[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]If[[nbsp]]you're[[nbsp]]heading[[nbsp]]west[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]get[[nbsp]]off[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]["Amtrak" Amtrak][[nbsp]]train[[nbsp]]in[[nbsp]]Richmond,[[nbsp]]you[[nbsp]]have[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]go[[nbsp]]downstairs,[[nbsp]]through[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]ticket[[nbsp]]counter,[[nbsp]]then[[nbsp]]back[[nbsp]]upstairs[[nbsp]]via[[nbsp]]escalator[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]access[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]platform.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Do[[nbsp]]note,[[nbsp]]however,[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]you[[nbsp]]can[[nbsp]]take[[nbsp]]["Amtrak" Amtrak][[nbsp]]all[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]way[[nbsp]]into[[nbsp]]San[[nbsp]]Francisco.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Simply[[nbsp]]tell[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]ticket[[nbsp]]agent[[nbsp]]you're[[nbsp]]going[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]San[[nbsp]]Francisco[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]they[[nbsp]]can[[nbsp]]explain[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]relevant[[nbsp]]options[[nbsp]]or[[nbsp]]visit[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]["Amtrak" Amtrak][[nbsp]]page[[nbsp]]for[[nbsp]]more[[nbsp]]details.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A light-rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water).<br> + BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into San Francisco. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- The[[nbsp]]closest[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]station[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]Davis[[nbsp]]is[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]North[[nbsp]]Concord/Martinez[[nbsp]]station.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]However,[[nbsp]]if[[nbsp]]you[[nbsp]]are[[nbsp]]driving[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]from[[nbsp]]Davis,[[nbsp]]it[[nbsp]]is[[nbsp]]worthwhile[[nbsp]]driving[[nbsp]]an[[nbsp]]extra[[nbsp]]3.5[[nbsp]]miles[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]starting[[nbsp]]your[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]journey[[nbsp]]at[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]Walnut[[nbsp]]Creek[[nbsp]]station.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Without[[nbsp]]traffic[[nbsp]](repeat,[[nbsp]]WITHOUT[[nbsp]]traffic),[[nbsp]]it[[nbsp]]takes[[nbsp]]just[[nbsp]]under[[nbsp]]1[[nbsp]]hour[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]drive[[nbsp]]from[[nbsp]]Davis[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]Walnut[[nbsp]]Creek[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]Station.[[nbsp]]That[[nbsp]]time[[nbsp]]*will*[[nbsp]]go[[nbsp]]up[[nbsp]]substantially[[nbsp]]during[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]holidays[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]during[[nbsp]]commute[[nbsp]]hours.<br> - [[nbsp]]*[[nbsp]]It[[nbsp]]can[[nbsp]]take[[nbsp]]nearly[[nbsp]]five[[nbsp]]hours[[nbsp]]Christmas[[nbsp]]Eve[[nbsp]]morning[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]get[[nbsp]]from[[nbsp]]Davis[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]Walnut[[nbsp]]Creek.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Other[[nbsp]]holidays[[nbsp]]can[[nbsp]]be[[nbsp]]equally[[nbsp]]insane[[nbsp]]on[[nbsp]]I-80.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Keep[[nbsp]]in[[nbsp]]mind[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]travel[[nbsp]]time[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]station[[nbsp]]on[[nbsp]]holidays.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours.<br> + * It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 7: </td> <td> Line 7: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Note[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]stops[[nbsp]]running[[nbsp]]fairly[[nbsp]]early[[nbsp]]at[[nbsp]]night.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]The[[nbsp]]final[[nbsp]]train[[nbsp]]every[[nbsp]]night[[nbsp]]goes[[nbsp]]through[[nbsp]]San[[nbsp]]Francisco[[nbsp]]betweeb[[nbsp]]about[[nbsp]]midnight[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]12:30[[nbsp]]AM,[[nbsp]]through[[nbsp]]Oakland[[nbsp]]between[[nbsp]]about[[nbsp]]12:30[[nbsp]]AM[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]12:45[[nbsp]]AM,[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]arrives[[nbsp]]at[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]Walnut[[nbsp]]Creek[[nbsp]]station[[nbsp]]at[[nbsp]]1:04[[nbsp]]AM.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]If[[nbsp]]you[[nbsp]]plan[[nbsp]]on[[nbsp]]attending[[nbsp]]an[[nbsp]]event[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]ends[[nbsp]]late[[nbsp]](especially[[nbsp]]something[[nbsp]]like[[nbsp]]a[[nbsp]]concert[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]could[[nbsp]]run[[nbsp]]late[[nbsp]]past[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]official[[nbsp]]end[[nbsp]]time),[[nbsp]]it[[nbsp]]is[[nbsp]]a[[nbsp]]good[[nbsp]]idea[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]know[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]last[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]available.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Note that BART stops running fairly early at night. The final train every night goes through San Francisco betweeb about midnight and 12:30 AM, through Oakland between about 12:30 AM and 12:45 AM, and arrives at the Walnut Creek station at 1:04 AM. If you plan on attending an event that ends late (especially something like a concert that could run late past the official end time), it is a good idea to know the last BART available.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 9: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ["Amtrak" <span>Amtrak][[nbsp]]</span>lists<span>[[nbsp]]</span>BART<span>[[nbsp]]</span>connections<span>[[nbsp]]</span>and<span>[[nbsp]]</span>schedules<span>[[nbsp]]</span>on<span>[[nbsp]]</span>their<span>[[nbsp]]</span>site,<span>[[nbsp]]</span>making<span>[[nbsp]]</span>it<span>[[nbsp]]</span>a<span>[[nbsp]]</span>one<span>[[nbsp]]</span>stop<span>[[nbsp]]</span>shop<span>[[nbsp]]</span>for<span>[[nbsp]]</span>planning<span>[[nbsp]]</span>Bay<span>[[nbsp]]</span>area<span>[[nbsp]]</span>trips<span>[[nbsp]]</span>sans<span>[[nbsp]]</span>car. </td> <td> <span>+</span> ["Amtrak"<span>]</span> lists<span>&nbsp;</span>BART<span>&nbsp;</span>connections<span>&nbsp;</span>and<span>&nbsp;</span>schedules<span>&nbsp;</span>on<span>&nbsp;</span>their<span>&nbsp;</span>site,<span>&nbsp;</span>making<span>&nbsp;</span>it<span>&nbsp;</span>a<span>&nbsp;</span>one<span>&nbsp;</span>stop<span>&nbsp;</span>shop<span>&nbsp;</span>for<span>&nbsp;</span>planning<span>&nbsp;</span>Bay<span>&nbsp;</span>area<span>&nbsp;</span>trips<span>&nbsp;</span>sans<span>&nbsp;</span>car. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ["Bicycles" <span>Bicycles][[nbsp]]</span>are<span>[[nbsp]]</span>allowed<span>[[nbsp]]</span>on<span>[[nbsp]]</span>BART,<span>[[nbsp]]</span>except<span>[[nbsp]]</span>during<span>[[nbsp]]</span>certain<span>[[nbsp]]</span>peak<span>[[nbsp]]</span>hours<span>[[nbsp]]</span>or<span>[[nbsp]]</span>on<span>[[nbsp]]</span>crowded<span>[[nbsp]]</span>cars. </td> <td> <span>+</span> ["Bicycles"<span>]</span> are<span>&nbsp;</span>allowed<span>&nbsp;</span>on<span>&nbsp;</span>BART,<span>&nbsp;</span>except<span>&nbsp;</span>during<span>&nbsp;</span>certain<span>&nbsp;</span>peak<span>&nbsp;</span>hours<span>&nbsp;</span>or<span>&nbsp;</span>on<span>&nbsp;</span>crowded<span>&nbsp;</span>cars. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-03-22 10:40:26RobertMorrisAll Rights Reversed <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A light-rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water).<br> - BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, through the BART ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into San Francisco. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ '''B'''ay[[nbsp]]'''A'''rea[[nbsp]]'''R'''apid[[nbsp]]'''T'''ransit.[[nbsp]]A[[nbsp]]light-rail[[nbsp]]system[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]runs[[nbsp]]both[[nbsp]]above[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]below[[nbsp]]ground[[nbsp]](and[[nbsp]]water).<br> + BART[[nbsp]]is[[nbsp]]accessible[[nbsp]]across[[nbsp]]from[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]["Amtrak" Amtrak][[nbsp]]station[[nbsp]]platform[[nbsp]]in[[nbsp]]Richmond,[[nbsp]]granting[[nbsp]]car-free[[nbsp]]access[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]rest[[nbsp]]of[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]["Bay Area" Bay_Area].[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]If[[nbsp]]you're[[nbsp]]heading[[nbsp]]west[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]get[[nbsp]]off[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]["Amtrak" Amtrak][[nbsp]]train[[nbsp]]in[[nbsp]]Richmond,[[nbsp]]you[[nbsp]]have[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]go[[nbsp]]downstairs,[[nbsp]]through[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]ticket[[nbsp]]counter,[[nbsp]]then[[nbsp]]back[[nbsp]]upstairs[[nbsp]]via[[nbsp]]escalator[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]access[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]platform.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Do[[nbsp]]note,[[nbsp]]however,[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]you[[nbsp]]can[[nbsp]]take[[nbsp]]["Amtrak" Amtrak][[nbsp]]all[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]way[[nbsp]]into[[nbsp]]San[[nbsp]]Francisco.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Simply[[nbsp]]tell[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]ticket[[nbsp]]agent[[nbsp]]you're[[nbsp]]going[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]San[[nbsp]]Francisco[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]they[[nbsp]]can[[nbsp]]explain[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]relevant[[nbsp]]options[[nbsp]]or[[nbsp]]visit[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]["Amtrak" Amtrak][[nbsp]]page[[nbsp]]for[[nbsp]]more[[nbsp]]details.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- The closest BART station to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However, if you are driving to BART from Davis, it is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the Walnut Creek station. Without traffic (repeat, WITHOUT traffic), it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours.<br> - * It can take nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ The[[nbsp]]closest[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]station[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]Davis[[nbsp]]is[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]North[[nbsp]]Concord/Martinez[[nbsp]]station.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]However,[[nbsp]]if[[nbsp]]you[[nbsp]]are[[nbsp]]driving[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]from[[nbsp]]Davis,[[nbsp]]it[[nbsp]]is[[nbsp]]worthwhile[[nbsp]]driving[[nbsp]]an[[nbsp]]extra[[nbsp]]3.5[[nbsp]]miles[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]starting[[nbsp]]your[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]journey[[nbsp]]at[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]Walnut[[nbsp]]Creek[[nbsp]]station.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Without[[nbsp]]traffic[[nbsp]](repeat,[[nbsp]]WITHOUT[[nbsp]]traffic),[[nbsp]]it[[nbsp]]takes[[nbsp]]just[[nbsp]]under[[nbsp]]1[[nbsp]]hour[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]drive[[nbsp]]from[[nbsp]]Davis[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]Walnut[[nbsp]]Creek[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]Station.[[nbsp]]That[[nbsp]]time[[nbsp]]*will*[[nbsp]]go[[nbsp]]up[[nbsp]]substantially[[nbsp]]during[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]holidays[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]during[[nbsp]]commute[[nbsp]]hours.<br> + [[nbsp]]*[[nbsp]]It[[nbsp]]can[[nbsp]]take[[nbsp]]nearly[[nbsp]]five[[nbsp]]hours[[nbsp]]Christmas[[nbsp]]Eve[[nbsp]]morning[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]get[[nbsp]]from[[nbsp]]Davis[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]Walnut[[nbsp]]Creek.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Other[[nbsp]]holidays[[nbsp]]can[[nbsp]]be[[nbsp]]equally[[nbsp]]insane[[nbsp]]on[[nbsp]]I-80.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]Keep[[nbsp]]in[[nbsp]]mind[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]travel[[nbsp]]time[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]station[[nbsp]]on[[nbsp]]holidays.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 7: </td> <td> Line 7: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Note that BART stops running fairly early at night. The final train every night goes through San Francisco betweeb about midnight and 12:30 AM, through Oakland between about 12:30 AM and 12:45 AM, and arrives at the Walnut Creek station at 1:04 AM. If you plan on attending an event that ends late (especially something like a concert that could run late past the official end time), it is a good idea to know the last BART available.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Note[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]stops[[nbsp]]running[[nbsp]]fairly[[nbsp]]early[[nbsp]]at[[nbsp]]night.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]The[[nbsp]]final[[nbsp]]train[[nbsp]]every[[nbsp]]night[[nbsp]]goes[[nbsp]]through[[nbsp]]San[[nbsp]]Francisco[[nbsp]]betweeb[[nbsp]]about[[nbsp]]midnight[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]12:30[[nbsp]]AM,[[nbsp]]through[[nbsp]]Oakland[[nbsp]]between[[nbsp]]about[[nbsp]]12:30[[nbsp]]AM[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]12:45[[nbsp]]AM,[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]arrives[[nbsp]]at[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]Walnut[[nbsp]]Creek[[nbsp]]station[[nbsp]]at[[nbsp]]1:04[[nbsp]]AM.[[nbsp]][[nbsp]]If[[nbsp]]you[[nbsp]]plan[[nbsp]]on[[nbsp]]attending[[nbsp]]an[[nbsp]]event[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]ends[[nbsp]]late[[nbsp]](especially[[nbsp]]something[[nbsp]]like[[nbsp]]a[[nbsp]]concert[[nbsp]]that[[nbsp]]could[[nbsp]]run[[nbsp]]late[[nbsp]]past[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]official[[nbsp]]end[[nbsp]]time),[[nbsp]]it[[nbsp]]is[[nbsp]]a[[nbsp]]good[[nbsp]]idea[[nbsp]]to[[nbsp]]know[[nbsp]]the[[nbsp]]last[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]available.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 9: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ["Amtrak"] lists BART connections and schedules on their site, making it a one stop shop for planning Bay area trips sans car.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ ["Amtrak" Amtrak][[nbsp]]lists[[nbsp]]BART[[nbsp]]connections[[nbsp]]and[[nbsp]]schedules[[nbsp]]on[[nbsp]]their[[nbsp]]site,[[nbsp]]making[[nbsp]]it[[nbsp]]a[[nbsp]]one[[nbsp]]stop[[nbsp]]shop[[nbsp]]for[[nbsp]]planning[[nbsp]]Bay[[nbsp]]area[[nbsp]]trips[[nbsp]]sans[[nbsp]]car.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ["Bicycles"]<span>&nbsp;</span>are<span>&nbsp;</span>allowed<span>&nbsp;</span>on<span>&nbsp;</span>BART,<span>&nbsp;</span>except<span>&nbsp;</span>during<span>&nbsp;</span>certain<span>&nbsp;</span>peak<span>&nbsp;</span>hours<span>&nbsp;</span>or<span>&nbsp;</span>on<span>&nbsp;</span>crowded<span>&nbsp;</span>cars. </td> <td> <span>+</span> ["Bicycles"<span>&nbsp;Bicycles</span>]<span>[[nbsp]]</span>are<span>[[nbsp]]</span>allowed<span>[[nbsp]]</span>on<span>[[nbsp]]</span>BART,<span>[[nbsp]]</span>except<span>[[nbsp]]</span>during<span>[[nbsp]]</span>certain<span>[[nbsp]]</span>peak<span>[[nbsp]]</span>hours<span>[[nbsp]]</span>or<span>[[nbsp]]</span>on<span>[[nbsp]]</span>crowded<span>[[nbsp]]</span>cars. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-26 03:06:31RishiTrivedi <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, th<span>en back upstairs, to access</span> the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into San Francisco. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details. </td> <td> <span>+</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the ["Amtrak"] train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, th<span>rough</span> the BART <span>ticket counter, then back upstairs via escalator to access the BART </span>platform. Do note, however, that you can take ["Amtrak"] all the way into San Francisco. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 7: </td> <td> Line 7: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Note that BART stops running fairly early at night. If you plan on attending an event that ends late (especially something like a concert that could run late past the official end time), it is a good idea to know the last BART available. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Note that BART stops running fairly early at night. <span>The final train every night goes through San Francisco betweeb about midnight and 12:30 AM, through Oakland between about 12:30 AM and 12:45 AM, and arrives at the Walnut Creek station at 1:04 AM. </span>If you plan on attending an event that ends late (especially something like a concert that could run late past the official end time), it is a good idea to know the last BART available. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ["Bicycles"] are allowed on BART, except during certain peak hours or on crowded cars.<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-26 01:11:21PaulLanzilinks and more links and clarifications <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the <span>Amtrak</span> train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, then back upstairs, to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take <span>Amtrak</span> all the way into San Francisco. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options. </td> <td> <span>+</span> BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the <span>["Amtrak"]</span> train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, then back upstairs, to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take <span>["Amtrak"]</span> all the way into San Francisco. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options<span>&nbsp;or visit the ["Amtrak"] page for more details</span>. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 9: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Amtrak lists BART connections and schedules on their site, making it a one stop shop for planning Bay area trips sans car. </td> <td> <span>+</span> <span>["</span>Amtrak<span>"]</span> lists BART connections and schedules on their site, making it a one stop shop for planning Bay area trips sans car. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [http://www.bart.gov/ Official Website] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [http://www.bart.gov/ Official <span>BART </span>Website] </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-24 22:22:56JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * It t<span>oo</span>k<span>&nbsp;["Jabb</span>e<span>rWokky" me]</span> nearly five hours<span>&nbsp;one</span> Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to <span>Pleasant Hill (right near </span>Walnut Creek<span>)</span>. </td> <td> <span>+</span> * It <span>can </span>t<span>a</span>ke nearly five hours Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Walnut Creek. <span>&nbsp;Other holidays can be equally insane on I-80. Keep in mind the travel time to the station on holidays.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-24 17:44:11RishiTrivediinfo about driving to bart <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The closest BART station, if you<span>'re driving</span>, i<span>s in</span> Walnut Creek. <span>Driving time to </span>W<span>alnut Creek from Davis is a</span>p<span>proximately 1 hr (without</span> traffic). That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours. It took ["JabberWokky" me] nearly five hours one Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Pleasant Hill (right near Walnut Creek). </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station<span>&nbsp;to Davis is the North Concord/Martinez station. However</span>, if you<span>&nbsp;are driving to BART from Davis</span>, i<span>t is worthwhile driving an extra 3.5 miles and starting your BART journey at the</span> Walnut Creek<span>&nbsp;station</span>. W<span>ithout traffic (re</span>p<span>eat, WITHOUT</span> traffic)<span>, it takes just under 1 hour to drive from Davis to Walnut Creek BART Station</span>. That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays and during commute hours.<span><br> + *</span> It took ["JabberWokky" me] nearly five hours one Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Pleasant Hill (right near Walnut Creek). </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-24 02:11:37JackHaskel <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The closest BART station, if you're driving, is in Walnut Creek. Driving time to Walnut Creek from Davis is approximately 1 hr (without traffic). That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays. It took <span>me</span> nearly five hours one Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Pleasant Hill (right near Walnut Creek). </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station, if you're driving, is in Walnut Creek. Driving time to Walnut Creek from Davis is approximately 1 hr (without traffic). That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays<span>&nbsp;and during commute hours</span>. It took <span>["JabberWokky" me]</span> nearly five hours one Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Pleasant Hill (right near Walnut Creek). </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-24 02:05:59JabberWokkyRe added my comment. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The closest BART station, if you're driving, is in Walnut Creek. Driving time to Walnut Creek from Davis is approximately 1 hr (without traffic). </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station, if you're driving, is in Walnut Creek. Driving time to Walnut Creek from Davis is approximately 1 hr (without traffic).<span>&nbsp;That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays. It took me nearly five hours one Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Pleasant Hill (right near Walnut Creek). </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-24 00:49:30JackHaskelchanged to note about paying attention to traffic <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The closest BART station, if you're driving, is in Walnut Creek. Driving time to Walnut Creek from Davis is approximately 1 hr<span>.</span> <span>'''VERY </span>i<span>mp</span>o<span>rtant note:''' Tha</span>t t<span>ime *will* go up subst</span>a<span>ntially during the holidays. It took me nearly </span>fi<span>ve hours one Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Pleasant Hill (right near Walnut Creek</span>). </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station, if you're driving, is in Walnut Creek. Driving time to Walnut Creek from Davis is approximately 1 hr <span>(w</span>i<span>th</span>o<span>u</span>t t<span>r</span>a<span>f</span>fi<span>c</span>). </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-24 00:47:16JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The closest BART station, if you're driving, is in Walnut Creek. Driving time to Walnut Creek from Davis is approximately 1 hr. </td> <td> <span>+</span> The closest BART station, if you're driving, is in Walnut Creek. Driving time to Walnut Creek from Davis is approximately 1 hr.<span>&nbsp;'''VERY important note:''' That time *will* go up substantially during the holidays. It took me nearly five hours one Christmas Eve morning to get from Davis to Pleasant Hill (right near Walnut Creek).</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-24 00:00:59PaulLanzipithy info <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- BART is accessible across the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"].</span> </td> <td> <span>+ BART is accessible across from the ["Amtrak"] station platform in Richmond, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. If you're heading west and get off the Amtrak train in Richmond, you have to go downstairs, then back upstairs, to access the BART platform. Do note, however, that you can take Amtrak all the way into San Francisco. Simply tell the ticket agent you're going to San Francisco and they can explain the relevant options.<br> + <br> + The closest BART station, if you're driving, is in Walnut Creek. Driving time to Walnut Creek from Davis is approximately 1 hr.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-19 19:19:24BrentLaabs <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 7: </td> <td> Line 7: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + [http://www.bart.gov/ Official Website]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-19 14:23:06TarZxfBart/Amtrak cross platform is in Richmond, Not E-ville. E-ville has no BART Stop <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> BART <span>l</span>i<span>nk</span>s <span>f</span>ro<span>m</span> the ["Amtrak"] station in <span>E</span>m<span>eryville</span>, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. </td> <td> <span>+</span> BART is <span>accessible ac</span>ro<span>ss</span> the ["Amtrak"] station <span>platform </span>in <span>Rich</span>m<span>ond</span>, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"]. </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-19 13:27:02JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 3: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Note that BART stops running fairly early at night. If you plan on attending an event that ends late (especially something like a concert that could run late past the official end time), it is a good idea to know the last BART available.<br> + <br> + Amtrak lists BART connections and schedules on their site, making it a one stop shop for planning Bay area trips sans car.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> BARThttp://daviswiki.org/BART2005-01-19 12:48:32AmeliaCarlson <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for BART<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ '''B'''ay '''A'''rea '''R'''apid '''T'''ransit. A light-rail system that runs both above and below ground (and water).<br> + BART links from the ["Amtrak"] station in Emeryville, granting car-free access to the rest of the ["Bay Area"].</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>