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* I have a feeling that the lawsuit is designed to protect the privacy of the employees, so [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/04/us/04firebombs.html this sort of thing] doesn't happen to them. Privacy matters aside, it's also completely possible that there is proprietary information of one kind or another out there that isn't meant for free circulation. It's hard to be more specific, because you don't really give any sources or details. *EDIT: I did some extra research, and the reason for the lawsuit is to stop protesters from harassing animal researchers. (For more info go to [http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCaseSummary/index.asp?CaseType=Civil this link] and type in case number SC097145.) I don't understand how a lawsuit designed to keep a website from telling people where those researchers live (presumably so they can go there and attack them or their property) is a [wiki:WikiPedia:SLAPP].--["Users/JoePomidor"] |
The outside of the Primate Research Center. This is the closest unauthorized members of the public are allowed to go.
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The California National Primate Research Center is a secure research facility located at the end of Hutchison Drive that houses about 4,700 monkeys. The center is controversial to some (see Urban Art for example), leading some detractors to refer to it as the "Monkey Farm". The $24 million facility has made recent discoveries about autism and conducts AIDS research (via SIV studies) among other scientific and medical projects.
The facility has had at least one monkey die accidentally: in February 2002, a monkey crawled into a drain pipe and was killed by an impeller.
Outside the facility — but still part of the center's monkey population — seven monkeys died on August 21, 2004 when seven (of eight in the room) long-tailed Macaque research monkeys died of heat exhaustion after a heater malfunctioned. The temperature rose from its normal 75 degrees F. to 115 degrees F. The event occurred in the Animal Resources Science building south of campus, which served as an overflow facility for the Primate Center. After this happened the overflow facility was shut down.
There are pages from the CNPRC relating to
animal care,
why primates are used, and the
types of research done.
Stories of the facility being "burned down in the '60s" are an urban legend, possibly fueled by the 1987 Animal Liberation Front attack on Thurman Laboratory. In fact, it was constructed during the early 1960s on the site of the old Pierce Ranch.
Security
Much of the "defense/security" is designed to keep humans away from the monkeys so the monkeys don't catch human diseases. Even when they aren't serious health hazards (like the common cold), catching a human disease could seriously skew research results. Visitors have to show that they don't have tuberculosis.
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2005-11-07 10:36:50 Yeah, I know. I went there once, and I had to get a paper from my doctor saying I didn't have tuberculosis. —NickSchmalenberger
2005-11-07 11:56:04 This page is generally skewed against the CNPRC. It lists several cases of primates dying because of human/machine error and only a passing reference to the extraordinarily beneficial research they do. I'll clean this up later, try to "unbias" it. —JesseSingh
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The only reason it lacks is because those who know haven't added. There have been several people over the years who have commented "I'm going to add some positive info", and none ever did. Please, please add some info. —jw
2007-04-26 15:16:22 I know someone who works here, good times —StevenDaubert
2007-12-26 22:32:34
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/76 —Easan
2008-03-31 17:48:56 The page faults Primate Freedom for being "misleading," but doesn't say how. Then, it sends links to the CNPRC's official website without any disclaimer. To say this page is biased against the center is bullshit. —TobinJones
2008-08-10 21:58:53 i think the link is wrong for the primate freedom site —MattHh
2008-08-11 13:50:31 Does anybody know what diseases or conditions have been cured or helped via primate research? I don't want to start any kind of big debate here, but I would like to know how such research has benefited us, costs aside.—JoePomidor
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An acquaintance of mine is a postdoc in comparative pathology, and he's doing research on SIV (simian immunodeficiency virus) and, thereby indirectly, on AIDS. It's tough to do direct research on AIDS for obvious reasons. When it comes to this type of research, I'm all for rounding up monkeys and poking them with needles, as long as it doesn't affect the sustainability of their species, and as long as reasonable measures are taken to minimize their discomfort. —TheAmazingLarry
2008-12-01 16:41:23 The Primate Freedom site is no longer available due to a lawsuit by the University of California to suppress information pertaining to its research staff and activities. (i.e. A SLAPP) —TobinJones
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I have a feeling that the lawsuit is designed to protect the privacy of the employees, so
this sort of thing doesn't happen to them. Privacy matters aside, it's also completely possible that there is proprietary information of one kind or another out there that isn't meant for free circulation. It's hard to be more specific, because you don't really give any sources or details.
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EDIT: I did some extra research, and the reason for the lawsuit is to stop protesters from harassing animal researchers. (For more info go to
this link and type in case number SC097145.) I don't understand how a lawsuit designed to keep a website from telling people where those researchers live (presumably so they can go there and attack them or their property) is a
SLAPP.—JoePomidor


