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The Church of the Divide is an anti-gay church from outside Davis that has been picketing in front of First Baptist Church of Davis. They are doing this because Freddie Oakley, who this Valentine's Day handed out 'Certificates of Inequality' to homosexual couples trying to get marriage licenses, was a member there and the pastor, Glenn Snyder, refused to publicly rebuke her and actually said she was welcome in the church. They take, what some believe to be, very hateful, unforgiving, and controversial stances on most topics (particularly homosexuality) and are seemingly ruthless in the execution of their protests. They are also regular protesters at Wal-Mart Department Stores due to Wal-Mart's donation of $60,000 to pro-homosexual organizations.
It should be noted to passersby that these protesters are in no way affiliated with the First Baptist Church of Davis. It is First Baptist that is being picketed by the Church of the Divide.
A couple people have noted that TCOTD looks and acts very similarly to the Preachers with signs however they are quite distinctly different in their methods and their focus.
Media and References
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A long forum post from the perspective of a congregation member, Christian Anime Alliance, 2007-02-18
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A protest for fairness: Yolo County clerk takes a stand for gay marriage, Davis Enterprise, 2007-02-15
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Comments:
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2007-02-20 22:47:20 I saw the video file posted. It's disgusting... these people have little respect for human dignity and remind me of the Westboro Baptist Church that picketed the Episcopal Convention in Minnesota calling other Christians hurtful derogatory remarks. —CarlosOverstreet
2007-02-21 00:35:02 That sucks, but as long as it stays nonviolent and doesn't infringe on private property, that's free speech, right? —KenjiYamada
2007-02-21 18:51:24 The video is poorly shot, these guys remind me of preachers with signs. The fact that they protest Wal-Mart also disappoints me. —SteveOstrowski
2007-02-21 20:31:56 video is poorly shot, editing is rather comical. Whole thing smacks of propaganda. —StevenDaubert
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lol, that's because it IS propaganda. I think the best way I've ever described these guys is 'religious bullies,' they claim Christianity for the sole purpose of twisting it so they can lord over people and hurt others. Also, should this page get linked to preachers with signs? —JamesHaile
2007-02-23 10:50:46 Judging by that video on their site, First Baptist Church in Davis seems pretty hateful and intolerant of visitors coming in to worship. If they welcome Freddie Oakley, they should welcome these guys too - isn't that the loving thing to do? —DanStanford
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FBC did nothing hateful or intolerant. Also, those "visitors" didn't come to worship; they came to protest. There is a big difference. If these people had come to worship, they would have been welcomed. —WilliamLewis
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I would bet dollars to dimes that if TCOTD brought it's congregation to FBC without the signs, and without trying to force there message on others and just went in and enjoyed the service and worshipped FBC would have welcomed them like they welcome everyone. —StevenDaubert
2007-02-23 22:40:10 There's a little comment battle going on in the
YouTube page for the video. Unfortunately The COTD requires "approval" of all comments before they get posted. Very confident in their stance arn't they? —JamesHaile
2007-02-24 13:24:17 I'd imagine they get quite a lot of hatemail... I'm suprised they allow any comments at all. —DanStanford
2007-02-24 13:27:56 They have a disclaimer that states anything sent to them becomes there property and they can post it on the site if they want to. —StevenDaubert
2007-02-27 16:31:31 The church of the divide is made up of five adults and three minor children. Dick and Luke Otterstad and Carolyn O'Connor are from Garden Valley. Todd and Beth Braun are from Auburn. The church of the divide is a umbrella for "save our slaves" "gaymarriageno" "citizens for truth in education" and a least one other that slips my mind right now. Church of the divide is not a church. It is only these handful of people and whomever they can recruit for their protests. Members of their group have been arrested for various things ranging from assault and battery 1 to blocking traffic. They associate with people like Ron Brock and Cheryl Sullenger. Ron has been arrested for several violations and Cheryl has spent about 2 1/2 years in the federal pen for conspiring to blow up an abortion clinic in southern California2 So as you can see these bible-toting idiots are not as playful as they may seem. —JerryRafter
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Wow. Thank you for the info. Very revealing. —JamesHaile
2007-02-28 10:41:15 Jerry, can you post any sources that verify your information? —DanStanford
2007-02-28 16:24:56 Does anyone else want further information aside from Luke Otterstad oops! I mean Dan Stanford? —JerryRafter
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Anything else is useful. I'd like to flesh this entry out all that I can once I'm done with midterms on friday. —wl
2007-02-28 21:50:58 Interesting how you've removed all my comments...what are you afraid of, besides the Truth? —MarieGruca
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As the Minister of Supression of Information on the Davis Wiki I must say that however amusing this debate is, content and comments should relate to the subject at hand and not necessarily a theological debate. As for the Truth only I know the Truth. —SteveOstrowski
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Anti-gay message stirs ire in town, Placerville leaders have declared a hate-free zone in response to religious group's campaign. (via Newsbank, must have campus IP, or a subscription) "Otterstad said a member of the church group was arrested on battery charges, which have been reduced to creating a public nuisance." Sacramento Bee 2005-2-13 - 2
2 in clinic bomb plot sentenced (via Newsbank) San Diego Union Tribune 1988-5-6 "An East County couple, described in federal court as "good people who did a very bad thing," were sentenced yesterday to jail terms for their roles in a plot to bomb the Alvarado Medical Center abortion clinic last July. U.S. District Judge Earl B. Gilliam imposed the heaviest penalty, three years in custody, on Cheryl Sullenger, 32, who pleaded guilty in March to conspiracy to bomb the clinic."


