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- Attendees of Hacking Society are often known to believe that collaboration is the key to success in any endeavour and that it is communities that make computers worth using, and that programming is an art form as opposed to class work or resume fodder. This chapter of Hacking Society also lacks the ["LUGOD" LUG] affiliation which means users of all languages, operating systems, and editors are welcome.	+ Attendees of Hacking Society are often known to believe that collaboration is the key to success in any endeavor and that it is communities that make computers worth using, and that programming is an art form as opposed to class work or resume fodder. This chapter of Hacking Society also lacks the ["LUGOD" LUG] affiliation which means users of all languages, operating systems, and editors are welcome.

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JasonAller — 2008-07-09 13:56:29

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- * Make the wiki a better place for mankind through [http://projectsycamore.org/ code]. (["PhilipNeustrom"] & ["DavidReid"]) - * Argue about processes vs. language-level threads vs. event loops. (["DavidReid"] & ["PhilipNeustrom"])	+ * Make the wiki a better place for mankind through [http://projectsycamore.org/ code]. (["Users/PhilipNeustrom"] & ["Users/DavidReid"]) + * Argue about processes vs. language-level threads vs. event loops. (["Users/DavidReid"] & ["Users/PhilipNeustrom"])
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- ["DavidReid" I] have in some sense been the driving force behind Davis Hacking Society, and while my personal experiences at individual meetings have been productive and inspiring, the lack of attendance has hurt my pride more than once. Lack of time and energy and a perception that people didn't really understand the point of DHS has prevented me from making it as great as I know it can be. But now I'm being removed the equation, on May 15th I start a new job in Cupertino, CA and will be unable to regularly attend DHS meetings. So this is a letter to the hackers and geeks not just of the wiki but of Davis, CA, hacking society was never meant to be my pet project, I never wanted to be the leader of a group, I just wanted the group to exist, so I did what I could to help it exist. Perhaps I was wrong about Davis, perhaps the community just isn't there, but I find it truly bewildering that community that could build and nurture something like DavisWiki could possibly lack the community spirit. Perhaps I never explained what DHS was properly, but that's because I don't know what it's supposed to be, it's not supposed to be a rigidly defined group with strict agendas and time keeping, Hacking Society was never meant to be more than a time and a place and reason for people with a common interest to get together. And that is what it has been, for me and ["PhilipNeustrom" Philip] and ["SteveDavison" occasional] ["ZacMorris" others]. Perhaps I didn't deal with criticism as well as I should have, perhaps I alienated people, whatever I did wrong, or just didn't do, it's now up to you the people if it's worth doing right. I hope in my failure you can find the secret to success. --["DavidReid"]'' - I wouldn't call it a failure. If you expected 100 people, I guess it was a failure, but otherwise no. When do you leave Davis? You could always commute to DHS meetings... --["SteveDavison"]	+ ["Users/DavidReid" I] have in some sense been the driving force behind Davis Hacking Society, and while my personal experiences at individual meetings have been productive and inspiring, the lack of attendance has hurt my pride more than once. Lack of time and energy and a perception that people didn't really understand the point of DHS has prevented me from making it as great as I know it can be. But now I'm being removed the equation, on May 15th I start a new job in Cupertino, CA and will be unable to regularly attend DHS meetings. So this is a letter to the hackers and geeks not just of the wiki but of Davis, CA, hacking society was never meant to be my pet project, I never wanted to be the leader of a group, I just wanted the group to exist, so I did what I could to help it exist. Perhaps I was wrong about Davis, perhaps the community just isn't there, but I find it truly bewildering that community that could build and nurture something like DavisWiki could possibly lack the community spirit. Perhaps I never explained what DHS was properly, but that's because I don't know what it's supposed to be, it's not supposed to be a rigidly defined group with strict agendas and time keeping, Hacking Society was never meant to be more than a time and a place and reason for people with a common interest to get together. And that is what it has been, for me and ["Users/PhilipNeustrom" Philip] and ["Users/SteveDavison" occasional] ["Users/ZacMorris" others]. Perhaps I didn't deal with criticism as well as I should have, perhaps I alienated people, whatever I did wrong, or just didn't do, it's now up to you the people if it's worth doing right. I hope in my failure you can find the secret to success. --["Users/DavidReid"]'' + I wouldn't call it a failure. If you expected 100 people, I guess it was a failure, but otherwise no. When do you leave Davis? You could always commute to DHS meetings... --["Users/SteveDavison"]
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- ''I went there 2006-02-16 6:00PM, waited an hour, but NOBODY showed up. Not Philip, not David.'' --["SteveDavison"] - We were both there at 6:30 or so. I went to grab a burrito because I was hungry. David and I came back and no one else was there (until about 9pm, then we left). --["PhilipNeustrom"] - ''That's strange, I recall being there at 6:30PM. Hmmm. We must have just missed.'' --["SteveDavison"] - It's unreasonable to expect everyone to show up on time every time, and the smaller the group of regular attendees (which is 2) the less likely there is to be someone there at 6pm on the dot. Things happen, busses are late, people get hungry, I'm sorry no one was there when you got there at 6, but Philip and I were back at 6:30pm. On another note, every meeting is going to "suck" if you don't have anything to do there. Some people have complained about being ignored in favor of code. I didn't organize Hacking Society as a strictly social event, (this is a college town, there are plenty of those already.) But ... perhaps I'm going about this all wrong, perhaps I should just quit now before I stress myself out anymore about this. So consider this my final plea for help, if you've never been to a Hacking Society, for whatever reason, you didn't think it was for you, there was something that conflicted in your schedule, maybe you just don't like Roma, I don't know, tell me how I can change it so that you will come, so that you will enjoy it, so that _everyone_ can benefit from it. --["DavidReid"] - I really think we should try and get that Philip Neustrom guy to stop showing up. I mean all he does is talk about bears and it makes some people kind of uncomfortable. That would probably solve a lot of the problems. More seriously, I honestly don't know why a bunch of people don't show up and don't care all that much either. Its nice programming and stuff with others around, makes me work better, makes it easier to ask for suggestions and opinions. And its fun to bug Philip and David without them being able to ignore my AIM windows. Roma is perfect for something like this, especially later on in the evening when most of the people head out and we are the only ones there. If people don't show up its their loss. No open minded technically inclined community for them. More power outlets for me. --["ZacMorris"]	+ ''I went there 2006-02-16 6:00PM, waited an hour, but NOBODY showed up. Not Philip, not David.'' --["Users/SteveDavison"] + We were both there at 6:30 or so. I went to grab a burrito because I was hungry. David and I came back and no one else was there (until about 9pm, then we left). --["Users/PhilipNeustrom"] + ''That's strange, I recall being there at 6:30PM. Hmmm. We must have just missed.'' --["Users/SteveDavison"] + It's unreasonable to expect everyone to show up on time every time, and the smaller the group of regular attendees (which is 2) the less likely there is to be someone there at 6pm on the dot. Things happen, busses are late, people get hungry, I'm sorry no one was there when you got there at 6, but Philip and I were back at 6:30pm. On another note, every meeting is going to "suck" if you don't have anything to do there. Some people have complained about being ignored in favor of code. I didn't organize Hacking Society as a strictly social event, (this is a college town, there are plenty of those already.) But ... perhaps I'm going about this all wrong, perhaps I should just quit now before I stress myself out anymore about this. So consider this my final plea for help, if you've never been to a Hacking Society, for whatever reason, you didn't think it was for you, there was something that conflicted in your schedule, maybe you just don't like Roma, I don't know, tell me how I can change it so that you will come, so that you will enjoy it, so that _everyone_ can benefit from it. --["Users/DavidReid"] + I really think we should try and get that Philip Neustrom guy to stop showing up. I mean all he does is talk about bears and it makes some people kind of uncomfortable. That would probably solve a lot of the problems. More seriously, I honestly don't know why a bunch of people don't show up and don't care all that much either. Its nice programming and stuff with others around, makes me work better, makes it easier to ask for suggestions and opinions. And its fun to bug Philip and David without them being able to ignore my AIM windows. Roma is perfect for something like this, especially later on in the evening when most of the people head out and we are the only ones there. If people don't show up its their loss. No open minded technically inclined community for them. More power outlets for me. --["Users/ZacMorris"]
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- ''I move that the meetings be moved from ["Cafe Roma"] to ["Delta of Venus"]. They serve food there, have beer, and have Wi-Fi.'' --["SteveDavison"] - Isn't delta usually packed on thursday nights/have shows (seems they start at 8:30ish)? If we could snag a table early on this might be a good idea, but I'd hate to feel like "that guy on his laptop" :-) --["PhilipNeustrom"] - You're right, Thursday would suck. How about Mondays? One of the reasons for low attendance I believe was scheduling conflicts -a lot of things happen Thursday nights. --["SteveDavison"]	+ ''I move that the meetings be moved from ["Cafe Roma"] to ["Delta of Venus"]. They serve food there, have beer, and have Wi-Fi.'' --["Users/SteveDavison"] + Isn't delta usually packed on thursday nights/have shows (seems they start at 8:30ish)? If we could snag a table early on this might be a good idea, but I'd hate to feel like "that guy on his laptop" :-) --["Users/PhilipNeustrom"] + You're right, Thursday would suck. How about Mondays? One of the reasons for low attendance I believe was scheduling conflicts -a lot of things happen Thursday nights. --["Users/SteveDavison"]
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- Lots of conversation about this topic that was lost to the ether can now be found at ["Davis Hacking Society/Talk"]. Hopefully this will recreate interest in what is a really great idea and maybe more people will start showing up. - ["ZacMorris"]	+ Lots of conversation about this topic that was lost to the ether can now be found at ["Davis Hacking Society/Talk"]. Hopefully this will recreate interest in what is a really great idea and maybe more people will start showing up. - ["Users/ZacMorris"]
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- Since nobody was at yesterday's (2006-04-27) DHS meeting, and the founder (Davis Reid) has moved away from Davis, I move that we disband the DHS and consider it absorbed into the ["LUGOD"] social meetings. They do have active meetings (10-12 people attend the socials), and it's at nearby Delta of Venus. All in favor? --["SteveDavison"] - * I haven't actually moved yet, but I am currently out of town and will be moving shortly, however here are my thoughts on the subject. I don't think DHS should be disbanded, but I do think it should coincide with the monthly ["LUGOD"] socials. Once a month is just too infrequent for the 4 or 5 hours of hacking that DHS provides. All the other Hacking Societies have a LUG affiliation and the pattern is basically have a meeting every week except for the week that the LUG meets (this isn't necessarily necessary if they meet on different days of the week.) So my final suggestion before I officially leave, is to have DHS meet at the same time and place as the ["LUGOD"] social gatherings _every_ week, and let any cross-pollenation happen naturally. --["DavidReid"] - * This sounds like a good idea to me. --["PhilipNeustrom"] - * I'm pretty sure it is a unanimous decision then. I've edited to reflect the venue change, however I did not change the start time, according to ["LUGOD"]'s meeting page the social gatherings don't start until 6:30. I leave it up to the community to decide if the flexibility created by the differences in time schedule is useful, those extra half hours of hacking can really add up. --["DavidReid"] - * I changed the start time to 6:30PM (it was approx. anyway) for simplicity/uniformity. I think having it first Tuesdays only is better -just because I don't think enough (>3) will show up the other times. Having a meeting with one person is a waste of time; better to concentrate until you have some sort of critical mass. If there were 5 people every week I would say have it weekly. We'll see. Even when we did meet we did almost nothing collaboratively. In a way, it's sort of a backwards-telecommute: instead of getting computer technology so we don't have to travel to a meeting place, here we have technology and meet in person. --["SteveDavison"]	+ Since nobody was at yesterday's (2006-04-27) DHS meeting, and the founder (Davis Reid) has moved away from Davis, I move that we disband the DHS and consider it absorbed into the ["LUGOD"] social meetings. They do have active meetings (10-12 people attend the socials), and it's at nearby Delta of Venus. All in favor? --["Users/SteveDavison"] + * I haven't actually moved yet, but I am currently out of town and will be moving shortly, however here are my thoughts on the subject. I don't think DHS should be disbanded, but I do think it should coincide with the monthly ["LUGOD"] socials. Once a month is just too infrequent for the 4 or 5 hours of hacking that DHS provides. All the other Hacking Societies have a LUG affiliation and the pattern is basically have a meeting every week except for the week that the LUG meets (this isn't necessarily necessary if they meet on different days of the week.) So my final suggestion before I officially leave, is to have DHS meet at the same time and place as the ["LUGOD"] social gatherings _every_ week, and let any cross-pollenation happen naturally. --["Users/DavidReid"] + * This sounds like a good idea to me. --["Users/PhilipNeustrom"] + * I'm pretty sure it is a unanimous decision then. I've edited to reflect the venue change, however I did not change the start time, according to ["LUGOD"]'s meeting page the social gatherings don't start until 6:30. I leave it up to the community to decide if the flexibility created by the differences in time schedule is useful, those extra half hours of hacking can really add up. --["Users/DavidReid"] + * I changed the start time to 6:30PM (it was approx. anyway) for simplicity/uniformity. I think having it first Tuesdays only is better -just because I don't think enough (>3) will show up the other times. Having a meeting with one person is a waste of time; better to concentrate until you have some sort of critical mass. If there were 5 people every week I would say have it weekly. We'll see. Even when we did meet we did almost nothing collaboratively. In a way, it's sort of a backwards-telecommute: instead of getting computer technology so we don't have to travel to a meeting place, here we have technology and meet in person. --["Users/SteveDavison"]

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PhilipNeustrom — 2006-10-24 21:29:36

note that it's likely inactive now. someone wanna start this back up?

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SteveDavison — 2006-05-11 06:49:56

comment, tweak

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	+ * I changed the start time to 6:30PM (it was approx. anyway) for simplicity/uniformity. I think having it first Tuesdays only is better -just because I don't think enough (>3) will show up the other times. Having a meeting with one person is a waste of time; better to concentrate until you have some sort of critical mass. If there were 5 people every week I would say have it weekly. We'll see. Even when we did meet we did almost nothing collaboratively. In a way, it's sort of a backwards-telecommute: instead of getting computer technology so we don't have to travel to a meeting place, here we have technology and meet in person. --["SteveDavison"]

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DavidReid — 2006-05-01 14:41:51

Change of Venue

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	+ * I'm pretty sure it is a unanimous decision then. I've edited to reflect the venue change, however I did not change the start time, according to ["LUGOD"]'s meeting page the social gatherings don't start until 6:30. I leave it up to the community to decide if the flexibility created by the differences in time schedule is useful, those extra half hours of hacking can really add up. --["DavidReid"]

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PhilipNeustrom — 2006-04-28 20:06:43

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	+ * This sounds like a good idea to me. --["PhilipNeustrom"]

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DavidReid — 2006-04-28 11:53:34

My thoughts and response to steve.

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- Since nobody was at yesterday's (2006-04-27) DHS meeting, and the founder (Davis Reid) has moved away from Davis, I move that we disband the DHS and consider it absorbed into the LUGOD social meetings. They do have active meetings (10-12 people attend the socials), and it's at nearby Delta of Venus. All in favor? --["SteveDavison"]	+ Since nobody was at yesterday's (2006-04-27) DHS meeting, and the founder (Davis Reid) has moved away from Davis, I move that we disband the DHS and consider it absorbed into the ["LUGOD"] social meetings. They do have active meetings (10-12 people attend the socials), and it's at nearby Delta of Venus. All in favor? --["SteveDavison"] + * I haven't actually moved yet, but I am currently out of town and will be moving shortly, however here are my thoughts on the subject. I don't think DHS should be disbanded, but I do think it should coincide with the monthly ["LUGOD"] socials. Once a month is just too infrequent for the 4 or 5 hours of hacking that DHS provides. All the other Hacking Societies have a LUG affiliation and the pattern is basically have a meeting every week except for the week that the LUG meets (this isn't necessarily necessary if they meet on different days of the week.) So my final suggestion before I officially leave, is to have DHS meet at the same time and place as the ["LUGOD"] social gatherings _every_ week, and let any cross-pollenation happen naturally. --["DavidReid"]

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SteveDavison — 2006-04-28 09:08:51

Move to absorb DHS into LUGOD social meetings.

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	+ + -------- + Since nobody was at yesterday's (2006-04-27) DHS meeting, and the founder (Davis Reid) has moved away from Davis, I move that we disband the DHS and consider it absorbed into the LUGOD social meetings. They do have active meetings (10-12 people attend the socials), and it's at nearby Delta of Venus. All in favor? --["SteveDavison"]

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SteveDavison — 2006-04-14 22:06:07

Reply to Philip & David.

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- ["DavidReid" I] have in some sense been the driving force behind Davis Hacking Society, and while my personal experiences at individual meetings have been productive and inspiring, the lack of attendance has hurt my pride more than once. Lack of time and energy and a perception that people didn't really understand the point of DHS has prevented me from making it as great as I know it can be. But now I'm being removed the equation, on May 15th I start a new job in Cupertino, CA and will be unable to regularly attend DHS meetings. So this is a letter to the hackers and geeks not just of the wiki but of Davis, CA, hacking society was never meant to be my pet project, I never wanted to be the leader of a group, I just wanted the group to exist, so I did what I could to help it exist. Perhaps I was wrong about Davis, perhaps the community just isn't there, but I find it truly bewildering that community that could build and nurture something like DavisWiki could possibly lack the community spirit. Perhaps I never explained what DHS was properly, but that's because I don't know what it's supposed to be, it's not supposed to be a rigidly defined group with strict agendas and time keeping, Hacking Society was never meant to be more than a time and a place and reason for people with a common interest to get together. And that is what it has been, for me and ["PhilipNeustrom" Philip] and ["SteveDavison" occasional] ["ZacMorris" others]. Perhaps I didn't deal with criticism as well as I should have, perhaps I alienated people, whatever I did wrong, or just didn't do, it's now up to you the people if it's worth doing right. I hope in my failure you can find the secret to success. - - --["DavidReid"] - ''	+ ["DavidReid" I] have in some sense been the driving force behind Davis Hacking Society, and while my personal experiences at individual meetings have been productive and inspiring, the lack of attendance has hurt my pride more than once. Lack of time and energy and a perception that people didn't really understand the point of DHS has prevented me from making it as great as I know it can be. But now I'm being removed the equation, on May 15th I start a new job in Cupertino, CA and will be unable to regularly attend DHS meetings. So this is a letter to the hackers and geeks not just of the wiki but of Davis, CA, hacking society was never meant to be my pet project, I never wanted to be the leader of a group, I just wanted the group to exist, so I did what I could to help it exist. Perhaps I was wrong about Davis, perhaps the community just isn't there, but I find it truly bewildering that community that could build and nurture something like DavisWiki could possibly lack the community spirit. Perhaps I never explained what DHS was properly, but that's because I don't know what it's supposed to be, it's not supposed to be a rigidly defined group with strict agendas and time keeping, Hacking Society was never meant to be more than a time and a place and reason for people with a common interest to get together. And that is what it has been, for me and ["PhilipNeustrom" Philip] and ["SteveDavison" occasional] ["ZacMorris" others]. Perhaps I didn't deal with criticism as well as I should have, perhaps I alienated people, whatever I did wrong, or just didn't do, it's now up to you the people if it's worth doing right. I hope in my failure you can find the secret to success. --["DavidReid"]'' + I wouldn't call it a failure. If you expected 100 people, I guess it was a failure, but otherwise no. When do you leave Davis? You could always commute to DHS meetings... --["SteveDavison"]
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	+ You're right, Thursday would suck. How about Mondays? One of the reasons for low attendance I believe was scheduling conflicts -a lot of things happen Thursday nights. --["SteveDavison"] +

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ZacMorris — 2006-04-13 14:14:56

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- * I really think we should try and get that Philip Neustrom guy to stop showing up. I mean all he does is talk about bears and it makes some people kind of uncomfortable. That would probably solve a lot of the problems. More seriously, I honestly don't know why a bunch of people don't show up and don't care all that much either. Its nice programming and stuff with others around, makes me work better, makes it easier to ask for suggestions and opinions. And its fun to bug Philip and David without them being able to ignore my AIM windows. Roma is perfect for something like this, especially later on in the evening when most of the people head out and we are the only ones there. If people don't show up its their loss. No open minded technically inclined community for them. More power outlets for me. --["ZacMorris"]	+ I really think we should try and get that Philip Neustrom guy to stop showing up. I mean all he does is talk about bears and it makes some people kind of uncomfortable. That would probably solve a lot of the problems. More seriously, I honestly don't know why a bunch of people don't show up and don't care all that much either. Its nice programming and stuff with others around, makes me work better, makes it easier to ask for suggestions and opinions. And its fun to bug Philip and David without them being able to ignore my AIM windows. Roma is perfect for something like this, especially later on in the evening when most of the people head out and we are the only ones there. If people don't show up its their loss. No open minded technically inclined community for them. More power outlets for me. --["ZacMorris"]

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ZacMorris — 2006-04-13 14:10:20

thoughts, sexy sexy thoughts

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	+ * I really think we should try and get that Philip Neustrom guy to stop showing up. I mean all he does is talk about bears and it makes some people kind of uncomfortable. That would probably solve a lot of the problems. More seriously, I honestly don't know why a bunch of people don't show up and don't care all that much either. Its nice programming and stuff with others around, makes me work better, makes it easier to ask for suggestions and opinions. And its fun to bug Philip and David without them being able to ignore my AIM windows. Roma is perfect for something like this, especially later on in the evening when most of the people head out and we are the only ones there. If people don't show up its their loss. No open minded technically inclined community for them. More power outlets for me. --["ZacMorris"]

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PhilipNeustrom — 2006-04-13 13:54:37

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	+ Isn't delta usually packed on thursday nights/have shows (seems they start at 8:30ish)? If we could snag a table early on this might be a good idea, but I'd hate to feel like "that guy on his laptop" :-) --["PhilipNeustrom"]

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DavidReid — 2006-04-13 13:38:36

Remove past notes, add letter about my leaving.

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	+ == The Future == + ''To the hackers and geeks of Davis, CA: + + ["DavidReid" I] have in some sense been the driving force behind Davis Hacking Society, and while my personal experiences at individual meetings have been productive and inspiring, the lack of attendance has hurt my pride more than once. Lack of time and energy and a perception that people didn't really understand the point of DHS has prevented me from making it as great as I know it can be. But now I'm being removed the equation, on May 15th I start a new job in Cupertino, CA and will be unable to regularly attend DHS meetings. So this is a letter to the hackers and geeks not just of the wiki but of Davis, CA, hacking society was never meant to be my pet project, I never wanted to be the leader of a group, I just wanted the group to exist, so I did what I could to help it exist. Perhaps I was wrong about Davis, perhaps the community just isn't there, but I find it truly bewildering that community that could build and nurture something like DavisWiki could possibly lack the community spirit. Perhaps I never explained what DHS was properly, but that's because I don't know what it's supposed to be, it's not supposed to be a rigidly defined group with strict agendas and time keeping, Hacking Society was never meant to be more than a time and a place and reason for people with a common interest to get together. And that is what it has been, for me and ["PhilipNeustrom" Philip] and ["SteveDavison" occasional] ["ZacMorris" others]. Perhaps I didn't deal with criticism as well as I should have, perhaps I alienated people, whatever I did wrong, or just didn't do, it's now up to you the people if it's worth doing right. I hope in my failure you can find the secret to success. + + --["DavidReid"] + ''

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ZacMorris — 2006-04-11 02:53:44

some day my links will be correct the first time, everytime

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ZacMorris — 2006-04-11 02:51:14

interest interest interest

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ZacMorris — 2006-04-11 02:50:10

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PhilipNeustrom — 2006-03-23 17:32:19

no meeting tonight

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SteveDavison — 2006-03-05 19:35:36

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- We were both there at 6:30 or so. I went to grab a buritto because I was hungry. David and I came back and no one else was there (until about 9pm, then we left). --["PhilipNeustrom"]	+ We were both there at 6:30 or so. I went to grab a burrito because I was hungry. David and I came back and no one else was there (until about 9pm, then we left). --["PhilipNeustrom"] + ''That's strange, I recall being there at 6:30PM. Hmmm. We must have just missed.'' --["SteveDavison"] + It's unreasonable to expect everyone to show up on time every time, and the smaller the group of regular attendees (which is 2) the less likely there is to be someone there at 6pm on the dot. Things happen, busses are late, people get hungry, I'm sorry no one was there when you got there at 6, but Philip and I were back at 6:30pm. On another note, every meeting is going to "suck" if you don't have anything to do there. Some people have complained about being ignored in favor of code. I didn't organize Hacking Society as a strictly social event, (this is a college town, there are plenty of those already.) But ... perhaps I'm going about this all wrong, perhaps I should just quit now before I stress myself out anymore about this. So consider this my final plea for help, if you've never been to a Hacking Society, for whatever reason, you didn't think it was for you, there was something that conflicted in your schedule, maybe you just don't like Roma, I don't know, tell me how I can change it so that you will come, so that you will enjoy it, so that _everyone_ can benefit from it. --["DavidReid"] + ----- + ''I move that the meetings be moved from ["Cafe Roma"] to ["Delta of Venus"]. They serve food there, have beer, and have Wi-Fi.'' --["SteveDavison"]
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- It's unreasonable to expect everyone to show up on time every time, and the smaller the group of regular attendees (which is 2) the less likely there is to be someone there at 6pm on the dot. Things happen, busses are late, people get hungry, I'm sorry no one was there when you got there at 6, but Philip and I were back at 6:30. On another note, every meeting is going to "suck" if you don't have anything to do there. Some people have complained about being ignored in favor of code. I didn't organize Hacking Society as a strictly social event, (this is a college town, there are plenty of those already.) But ... perhaps I'm going about this all wrong, perhaps I should just quit now before I stress myself out anymore about this. So consider this my final plea for help, if you've never been to a Hacking Society, for whatever reason, you didn't think it was for you, there was something that conflicted in your schedule, maybe you just don't like Roma, I don't know, tell me how I can change it so that you will come, so that you will enjoy it, so that _everyone_ can benefit from it. --["DavidReid"] - - As much as I hate to say this, I'm not going to be there tomorrow Feb 23rd. I've got to go to a wedding in vegas this weekend and we're leaving tomorrow afternoon. Best of luck to all those who are apple to attend. -- ["DavidReid"]

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DavidReid — 2006-02-22 14:32:11

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DavidReid — 2006-02-17 21:37:33

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- It's unreasonable to expect everyone to show up on time every time, and the smaller the group of regular attendees (which is 2) the less likely there is to be someone there at 6pm on the dot. Things happen, busses are late, people get hungry, I'm sorry no one was there when you got there at 6, but Philip and I were back at 6:30. On another note, every meeting is going to "suck" if you don't have anything to do there. Some people have complained about being ignored in favor of code. I didn't organize Hacking Society as a strictly social event, (this is a college town, there are plenty of those already.) But ... perhaps I'm going about this all wrong, perhaps I should just quit now before I stress myself out anymore about this. So consider this my final plea for help, if you've never been to a Hacking Society, for whatever reason, you didn't think it was for you, there was something that conflicted in your schedule, maybe you just don't like Roma, I don't know, tell me how I can change it so that you will come, so that you will enjoy it, so that _everyone_ can benefit from it. --["DavidReid"	+ + It's unreasonable to expect everyone to show up on time every time, and the smaller the group of regular attendees (which is 2) the less likely there is to be someone there at 6pm on the dot. Things happen, busses are late, people get hungry, I'm sorry no one was there when you got there at 6, but Philip and I were back at 6:30. On another note, every meeting is going to "suck" if you don't have anything to do there. Some people have complained about being ignored in favor of code. I didn't organize Hacking Society as a strictly social event, (this is a college town, there are plenty of those already.) But ... perhaps I'm going about this all wrong, perhaps I should just quit now before I stress myself out anymore about this. So consider this my final plea for help, if you've never been to a Hacking Society, for whatever reason, you didn't think it was for you, there was something that conflicted in your schedule, maybe you just don't like Roma, I don't know, tell me how I can change it so that you will come, so that you will enjoy it, so that _everyone_ can benefit from it. --["DavidReid"]

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DavidReid — 2006-02-17 13:42:40

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PhilipNeustrom — 2006-02-17 12:48:39

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SteveDavison — 2006-02-17 10:34:42

last meeting sucked

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JeffreyNonken — 2006-02-10 08:45:00

Next meeting.

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TravisGrathwell — 2006-02-09 16:59:01

i hate religious debates

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JabberWokky — 2006-02-09 12:44:07

Revert to version dated 2006-02-05 22:29:43.

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KenBloom — 2006-02-09 12:24:22

start a holy war

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SteveDavison — 2006-02-05 22:29:43

Every other week to every week?

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TomBurnett — 2006-02-01 18:43:46

One more typo; a period at the end of the last sentence.

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- The most important thing you can do to help Hacking Society succeed is show up and contribute. A missed meeting here or there isn't going to hurt anyone's feelings but if programming is something you love doing (or would like to learn to love doing) you should show up as often and for as long as you can. And when you're not showing up, you could print out one of these [http://dreid.org/tmp/dhs.pdf snazzy] [http://dreid.org/tmp/dhs.ps fliers]	+ The most important thing you can do to help Hacking Society succeed is show up and contribute. A missed meeting here or there isn't going to hurt anyone's feelings but if programming is something you love doing (or would like to learn to love doing) you should show up as often and for as long as you can. And when you're not showing up, you could print out one of these [http://dreid.org/tmp/dhs.pdf snazzy] [http://dreid.org/tmp/dhs.ps fliers].

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TomBurnett — 2006-02-01 18:42:53

Spelling, Emacs requirement more playful; vi is actually the one true editor.

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DavidReid — 2006-02-01 10:00:22

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DavidReid — 2006-01-31 21:19:56

Shake up the content, delete spurious comments, try to revitalize.

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- == What is Hacking Society? == - [http://hackingsociety.org Hacking Society] is an organization whose goal is to foster the ["Geeks" geek] community through the shared experience of "Hacking" described in further detail at [http://hackingsociety.org/whatisit/ Hacking Society: What is it?]. It is meant to be a time and place for people of similar interests in computers and programming to meet, discuss, and share ideas with one another. It often consists of [wiki:WikiPedia:Pair_Programming Pair Programming].	+ == What is it? == + [http://hackingsociety.org Hacking Society] is dedicated to fostering the ["Geeks" geek] community, through the shared experience of [http://catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html "Hacking"].
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Because its hard to find people interested in similar projects and something like this provides a way to do this.-- ["ZacMorris"] - - == Davis Hacking Society v1.0 (2005-11-17) == - DHS is a success! Approximately 6 people showed up, which is approximately 6 more than was originally expected. I believe the role call consisted of ["ZacMorris" myself], ["DavidReid"], ["PaulIvanov"], ["PhilipNeustrom"], ["SteveDavison"], ["TarZxf"]. We discussed awesome things that you non-showing up people are not privy to knowing about, mainly because I have a bad memory. Highlights included the internet going out, grad students taking over Roma's by force, and Philip going Super Sayan and taking 43 episodes to fight one person. Thanks to those who showed up, hope this becomes a regular thing. - ["ZacMorris"] - * Six more than '''you''' expected, perhaps. I expected a few more, and thought several who were at the BBQ would be there. I counted four laptops. This really is a sort of informal gathering between the BBQ's, so no one should feel at all intimidated about coming. '''Next meeting is Thursday, December 1st'''. --["SteveDavison"] - * I (["ChristopherMcKenzie"]) really wanted to go. I even text messaged Steve to tell him to announce that I was unable to show up. You can definitely count me in. However, due to prior engagements, I was unable to make it to the kickoff meeting. Sorry. -["ChristopherMcKenzie"] - * Must everything happen on Thursdays?? Is there any particular reason it's not on any other date? - ["MarieHuynh"] - * Because Thursday worked for me and my roommate, and no one else offered any input on the subject. But it's not set in stone, nor is the meeting place, someone suggested Woodstocks for the next one. - ["DavidReid"] - * How about Fridays? sushi? Sunday? Weekend sushi buffet? - ["MarieHuynh"] - * This group is about discussing hacking (i.e. computer programming), rather than eating. People bring their laptops and share the projects they're working on. Food would get in the way, among other things. The ideal location would have wifi and/or Ethernet ports, ample table space, chairs, and be quiet enough where we can talk -yet not bother anyone else with our talking. It must have power outlets. It should have enough light to see the keyboard. Come to think of it, Cafe Roma really is a pretty ideal spot. The difference between DHS and LUGOD is that the former has no officers, no dues, and no speakers. It's just share, talk, and learn. - * I only made that suggestion because someone else suggested Woodstocks and I don't really care for that. I've not gone to past meeting(s) so I don't know if you eat during the meeting. A coffee place does seem better than a restaurant but I don't have a laptop yet so plugs and all that was not on my mind. I don't think LUGOD has dues either. At least, I haven't paid any. - * The DHS meetings/gatherings are informal. We didn't eat last time. LUGOD has voluntary dues. They used to be used to pay for the library meeting room, but the library has changed its policy and now allows LUGOD free use. LUGOD has restarted its alternate social meetings, which somewhat duplicate DHS' function. Oh well. - - [[Comments()]] - - ''2005-11-01 02:20:27'' [[nbsp]] Hack the planet! --["ArlenAbraham"] - ------ - ''2005-11-01 03:18:43'' [[nbsp]] I live with you so you already know my feelings David. Anyway, Thursday might be bad for me. The only problem is severe laziness and apathy by the majority of programmers in this town. --["ZacMorris"] - * Who cares about apathy, anyway? --["JeffreyNonken"] - ------ - ''2005-11-01 03:26:48'' [[nbsp]] I h4xX0r3ed the Wiki --["GeoffJohnson"] - ------ - ''2005-11-01 17:05:29'' [[nbsp]] Hackers originally refered to people who were simply really skilled computer users. Read the book "A Cuckoo's Egg", it rules. --["GiladGurantz"] - * Yeah, Cuckoo's Egg is a great book, I read it when I was 10 (I think) and it was the first time I learned anything about UNIX. That book might be why I'm not a script kiddie. --["NickSchmalenberger"] - * I'm actually reading that right now. The writing is a little frustrating, and I think the editor probably never got through the whole thing. But as a nerd, to me it's still worth the read. -["MikeIvanov"] - * What's annoying is he tends to start each chapter the same way, repeating the same thing or making the same point. Still a great story, though, and the fact that it's non-fiction makes up for the not perfect writing. I like how we totally deviated from the point of the page. -["GiladGurantz"] - * Yep, he repeats a lot, but also some things are out of place or appear in a couple of places verbatim, as if something was moved but not deleted in the original spot. Far, far from perfect writing, but then I don't expect perfect writing from an astronomer/computer guy. Could have been a much shorter book, and better for it. Wiki tangents are the best. -["MikeIvanov"] - * Yeah, maybe I wasn't such a good critical reader when I was 10. Has anybody read Stoll's Silicon Snake Oil? It might be even more poorly written, because it is pretty much just one big rant about how the internet is just a lot of hype (it was written in 1996) and it was so much better back in the good old days, but I think some of it is true and the rest should at least be discussed, so I am glad he is doing it. Another sorta good book like that is In the Beginning Was the Command Line by Neil Stephenson. He likes BeOS. Does anybody in Davis use BeOS? Stoll now sells Klein bottle items (glassware and wool) in Oakland and on the web. [http://www.kleinbottle.com/] I wish I had a Klein hat. -["NickSchmalenberger"] - * I don't think Stoll ever said the internet was hype. He mainly ranted about how he thought it was silly that people were trying to make all this money off of it. Keep in mind this was during the Dot-Com Boom. So, I guess he was largely right, at least at the time. - * Yeah, I think you are right, he never really said the Internet was hype. There sure was alot of ranting though, especially against commercialization and associated hype of the Internet. That was what I was trying to get at when I noted it was written in 1996, but I guess that wasn't clear. It wasn't just about the Internet either, but about computers in general being seen as panacea, which I think is another real problem. -["NickSchmalenberger"] - * Whoa I have one of his Klein bottles in my house. ["PaulIvanov" My brother] bought it for my dad. What a small world. -["MikeIvanov"] - * Another worthwhile read is Steven Levy's "Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution" --["DavidReid"] - * Ah yes, the bible of my generation. - ["ErikAnderson" Erik Anderson] (Age 16 in 1984) - ------ - - ''2005-11-01 18:29:45'' [[nbsp]] I like this idea, though there is a large overlap between this an LUGOD, and LUGOD has been suffering poor partipation and attendance lately. --["RyanCastellucci"] - - * I don't think there is any overlap between this and LUGOD, most LUGs that I've been involved with (SVLug and MendoLUG) are more concerned with educating and informing and most importantly evangelizing. Also, Hacking Society isn't about Linux, it's not about Windows, it's not about Mac, it's about the one thing that all these have in common, Programming and Programmers, in truth it's not even about Programming, it's about Hacking, be it software or hardware. Hacking Society is much more like the 17th Century [wiki:WikiPedia:Salon_(gathering) salon]. LUGs are often (and unfortunately) one sided in their regular meetings, HS is about actively participating and exchanging ideas. Perhaps the difference is subtle, but it's important. Also one of the goals of hacking society is to be more regular than a LUG, you can work on anything at a hacking society, including your regular job (assuming it is computer oriented) or even gasp school work! :) -- ["DavidReid"] - - * Hacking Society is supposed to be much less organized. There's not supposed to be some topic or speaker for each meeting or something like that. It's supposed to have a geeky tilt, but no one is going to tell you want to work on. It's just a bunch of people who like to screw around with things (whether thats software, hardware, flamingos, whatever) getting together and screwing around with things. You know when you get together with your friends and hang out and mess around with something interesting? Yeah, it's like that except with people who aren't imaginary. -- ["ZacMorris"] - ------ - ''2005-11-05 11:14:50'' [[nbsp]] Sounds like fun. --["DylanBeaudette"] - ------ - ''2005-11-06 17:03:04'' [[nbsp]] The Davis Wiki is a great hack! --["SteveDavison"] - ------ - ''2005-11-12 23:19:29'' [[nbsp]] So can just anyone show up to this? If I just walk in to Cafe Roma on Thursday, is that cool? --["TylerKaraszewski"] - Depends, are you Just Anyone? Does Cafe Roma let Just Anyone in? If George W. Bush walks in, would they serve him? I'm not so sure... --["SteveDavison"] - Do they serve pretzels? --["DavidReid"] - Do they serve bananas? --["SteveDavison"] - Tyler yes you can just show up, it's not going to be a particularly organized event, it's just a group of people, with similar interests, meeting at the same place, at the same time, to work on things that interest them. --["DavidReid"] - ------ - ''2005-11-18 10:08:53'' [[nbsp]] bites the head off a chicken patooey! --["MarieHuynh"] - ------ - ''2005-11-22 00:37:16'' [[nbsp]] I was going to go, but I ended up working late. I'll try and make the next one. --["TylerKaraszewski"] - ------ - ''2005-11-29 22:35:19'' [[nbsp]] Actually, SVLUG now holds monthly official Hacking Society meetings, and a bunch of us meet many other weekends of the month, too! --["BillKendrick"] - ------ - ''2005-11-29 22:38:41'' [[nbsp]] Any reason DHS isn't set up as an official chapter? (SVLUG, too for that matter!) --["BillKendrick"] - Mostly because I wanted to make sure it wasn't a complete and utter failure before I did. --["DavidReid"] - ------ - More people ought to come to this! Got something to work on? Some idea you want to float by? Well then, come! --["PhilipNeustrom"]

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JeffreyNonken — 2006-01-26 13:06:29

Next meeting was not two weeks ago, I think. :)

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JeffreyNonken — 2005-12-30 20:04:18

Possessive its has no apostrophe.

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- * The DHS meetings/gatherings are informal. We didn't eat last time. LUGOD has voluntary dues. They used to be used to pay for the library meeting room, but the library has changed it's policy and now allows LUGOD free use. LUGOD has restarted it's alternate social meetings, which somewhat duplicate DHS' function. Oh well.	+ * The DHS meetings/gatherings are informal. We didn't eat last time. LUGOD has voluntary dues. They used to be used to pay for the library meeting room, but the library has changed its policy and now allows LUGOD free use. LUGOD has restarted its alternate social meetings, which somewhat duplicate DHS' function. Oh well.

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SteveDavison — 2005-12-30 18:35:48

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DavidReid — 2005-12-23 00:21:15

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-	+ I don't know if it's really a DHS meeting, ["PhilipNeustrom"] and ["DavidReid" I] are going to be at Roma, during the usual DHS timeslot, discussing and probably [wiki:WikiPedia:Pair_Programming Pair Programming] on the next generation of the wiki codebase. --["DavidReid"]

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MatthewKeys — 2005-12-08 02:23:41

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	+ ------ + ''2005-12-08 03:03:46'' [[nbsp]] There was mention of a meeting tonight (12/08), still on? --["TarZxf"]

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	+ Sorry about that, I thought about it at around 5:30 but I hadn't been feeling well, I'll be there next time, and I'll make sure Zac is as well. If anyone just couldn't make it because it conflicts with another Thursday event they should comment and we should try to work something out to accommodate the maximum number of interested parties. --["DavidReid"]

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SteveDavison — 2005-12-02 19:02:10

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	+ ------ + ''2005-12-02 20:01:40'' [[nbsp]] I went to the Dec. 1 meeting, but NOBODY else showed up! I put a sign on the table, for newcomers. It was dark and raining, but considering the importance of the meeting, I figured it was a "must attend". I've been wrong about this stuff before... --["SteveDavison"]

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- * I only made that suggestion because someone else suggeted Woodstocks and I don't really care for that. I've not gone to past meeting(s) so I don't know if you eat during the meeting. A coffee place does seem better than a restaurant but I don't have a laptop yet so plugs and all that was not on my mind. I don't think LUGOD has dues either. At least, I haven't paid any.	+ * I only made that suggestion because someone else suggested Woodstocks and I don't really care for that. I've not gone to past meeting(s) so I don't know if you eat during the meeting. A coffee place does seem better than a restaurant but I don't have a laptop yet so plugs and all that was not on my mind. I don't think LUGOD has dues either. At least, I haven't paid any. + * The DHS meetings/gatherings are informal. We didn't eat last time. LUGOD has voluntary dues. They used to be used to pay for the library meeting room, but the library has changed it's policy and now allows LUGOD free use. LUGOD has restarted it's alternate social meetings, which somewhat duplicate DHS' function. Oh well.

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	+ * I only made that suggestion because someone else suggeted Woodstocks and I don't really care for that. I've not gone to past meeting(s) so I don't know if you eat during the meeting. A coffee place does seem better than a restaurant but I don't have a laptop yet so plugs and all that was not on my mind. I don't think LUGOD has dues either. At least, I haven't paid any.

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SteveDavison — 2005-11-23 22:32:14

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	+ * This group is about discussing hacking (i.e. computer programming), rather than eating. People bring their laptops and share the projects they're working on. Food would get in the way, among other things. The ideal location would have wifi and/or Ethernet ports, ample table space, chairs, and be quiet enough where we can talk -yet not bother anyone else with our talking. It must have power outlets. It should have enough light to see the keyboard. Come to think of it, Cafe Roma really is a pretty ideal spot. The difference between DHS and LUGOD is that the former has no officers, no dues, and no speakers. It's just share, talk, and learn.

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	+ * How about Fridays? sushi? Sunday? Weekend sushi buffet? - ["MarieHuynh"]

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TylerKaraszewski — 2005-11-21 23:37:16

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	+ ------ + ''2005-11-22 00:37:16'' [[nbsp]] I was going to go, but I ended up working late. I'll try and make the next one. --["TylerKaraszewski"]

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SteveDavison — 2005-11-19 22:50:18

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- * Yes, I met you at your "prior engagement" afterwards... Though I hadn't gotten the message, I did in fact mention that you were originally planning to come. We knew you were there in spirit anyway (due to the Internet connection dying...) --["SteveDavison"] - * Nonsense! At 6 PM, I was in Sacramento, visiting a friend, as I had planned long before. You saw me during my 8 PM slot. Anyway, no use filling up the wiki with useless noise. --["ChristopherMcKenzie"] - * Must everything happen on Thursdays?? Is there any particular reason it's not on any other date? - ["MarieHuynh"] - * Because Thursday worked for me and my roommate, and no one else offered any input on the subject. But it's not set in stone, nor is the meeting place, someone suggested Woodstocks for the next one. - ["DavidReid"]	+ * Must everything happen on Thursdays?? Is there any particular reason it's not on any other date? - ["MarieHuynh"] + * Because Thursday worked for me and my roommate, and no one else offered any input on the subject. But it's not set in stone, nor is the meeting place, someone suggested Woodstocks for the next one. - ["DavidReid"]

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	+ * Nonsense! At 6 PM, I was in Sacramento, visiting a friend, as I had planned long before. You saw me during my 8 PM slot. Anyway, no use filling up the wiki with useless noise. --["ChristopherMcKenzie"]

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MarieHuynh — 2005-11-18 09:08:53

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SteveDavison — 2005-11-18 07:41:10

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- ''It's a chance to meet other people who think like you and have similar interests in an atmosphere that promotes sharing of ideas and collaboration. Its a chance to discuss current projects and ideas as well as form new ones. Its a chance to tell people you are going out to do something without having to actually do something non-geeky.'' -- ["ZacMorris"]	+ ''It's a chance to meet other people who think like you and have similar interests in an atmosphere that promotes sharing of ideas and collaboration. It's a chance to discuss current projects and ideas as well as form new ones. It's a chance to tell people you are going out to do something without having to actually do something non-geeky.'' -- ["ZacMorris"]
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- == Davis Hacking Society v1.0 == - DHS is a success! Approximately 6 people showed up, which is approximately 6 more than was originally expected. I believe the role call consisted of ["ZacMorris" myself], ["DavidReid"], ["PaulIvanov"], ["PhilipNeustrom"], ["SteveDavison"], ["TarZxf"]. We discussed awesome things that you non-showing up people are not privy to knowing about, mainly because I have a bad memory. Highlights included the internet going out, grad students taking over Roma's by force, and Philip going Super Sayan and taking 43 episodes to fight one person. Thanks to those who showed up, hope this becomes a regular thing. - ["ZacMorris"]	+ == Davis Hacking Society v1.0 (2005-11-17) == + DHS is a success! Approximately 6 people showed up, which is approximately 6 more than was originally expected. I believe the role call consisted of ["ZacMorris" myself], ["DavidReid"], ["PaulIvanov"], ["PhilipNeustrom"], ["SteveDavison"], ["TarZxf"]. We discussed awesome things that you non-showing up people are not privy to knowing about, mainly because I have a bad memory. Highlights included the internet going out, grad students taking over Roma's by force, and Philip going Super Sayan and taking 43 episodes to fight one person. Thanks to those who showed up, hope this becomes a regular thing. - ["ZacMorris"] + * Six more than '''you''' expected, perhaps. I expected a few more, and thought several who were at the BBQ would be there. I counted four laptops. This really is a sort of informal gathering between the BBQ's, so no one should feel at all intimidated about coming. '''Next meeting is Thursday, December 1st'''. --["SteveDavison"]
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-	+ * I (["ChristopherMcKenzie"]) really wanted to go. I even text messaged Steve to tell him to announce that I was unable to show up. You can definitely count me in. However, due to prior engagements, I was unable to make it to the kickoff meeting. Sorry. -["ChristopherMcKenzie"]

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- * Hacking Society is supposed to be much less organized. There's not supposed to be some topic or speaker for each meeting or something like that. It's supposed to have a geeky tilt, but no one is going to tell you want to work on. It's just a bunch of people who like to screw around with things (whether thats software, hardware, flamingos, whatever) getting together and screwing around with things. You know when you get together with your friends and hang out and mess around with something interesting? Yeah, it's like that except with people who aren't imaginary. -- ["ZacMorris"]	+ * Hacking Society is supposed to be much less organized. There's not supposed to be some topic or speaker for each meeting or something like that. It's supposed to have a geeky tilt, but no one is going to tell you want to work on. It's just a bunch of people who like to screw around with things (whether thats software, hardware, flamingos, whatever) getting together and screwing around with things. You know when you get together with your friends and hang out and mess around with something interesting? Yeah, it's like that except with people who aren't imaginary. -- ["ZacMorris"]
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SteveDavison — 2005-11-06 16:02:34

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- [http://hackingsociety.org Hacking Society] is an organization whose goal is to foster the ["Geeks" geek] community through the shared experience of "Hacking" described in further detail at [http://hackingsociety.org/whatisit/ Hacking Society: What is it?]. It is meant to be a time and place for people of similar interests in computers and programming to meet, discuss, and share ideas with one another. It often consists of [wiki:WikiPedia:Pair_Programming Pair Programming].	+ [http://hackingsociety.org Hacking Society] is an organization whose goal is to foster the ["Geeks" geek] community through the shared experience of "Hacking" described in further detail at [http://hackingsociety.org/whatisit/ Hacking Society: What is it?]. It is meant to be a time and place for people of similar interests in computers and programming to meet, discuss, and share ideas with one another. It often consists of [wiki:WikiPedia:Pair_Programming Pair Programming].
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- ''2005-11-04 23:05:40'' [[nbsp]] Finalize the date/times and people will show up. Nov 17, 6-8PM Cafe Roma sounds good. --["SteveDavison"] - ------ - ''2005-11-05 11:14:50'' [[nbsp]] sounds like fun. --["DylanBeaudette"]	+ ''2005-11-05 11:14:50'' [[nbsp]] Sounds like fun. --["DylanBeaudette"]

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	+ * Whoa I have one of his Klein bottles in my house. ["PaulIvanov" My brother] bought it for my dad. What a small world. -["MikeIvanov"]

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NickSchmalenberger — 2005-11-01 21:19:49

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	+ * Yeah, I think you are right, he never really said the Internet was hype. There sure was alot of ranting though, especially against commercialization and associated hype of the Internet. That was what I was trying to get at when I noted it was written in 1996, but I guess that wasn't clear. It wasn't just about the Internet either, but about computers in general being seen as panacea, which I think is another real problem. -["NickSchmalenberger"]

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	+ * I don't think Stoll ever said the internet was hype. He mainly ranted about how he thought it was silly that people were trying to make all this money off of it. Keep in mind this was during the Dot-Com Boom. So, I guess he was largely right, at least at the time.

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	+ * Yeah, maybe I wasn't such a good critical reader when I was 10. Has anybody read Stoll's Silicon Snake Oil? It might be even more poorly written, because it is pretty much just one big rant about how the internet is just a lot of hype (it was written in 1996) and it was so much better back in the good old days, but I think some of it is true and the rest should at least be discussed, so I am glad he is doing it. Another sorta good book like that is In the Beginning Was the Command Line by Neil Stephenson. He likes BeOS. Does anybody in Davis use BeOS? Stoll now sells Klein bottle items (glassware and wool) in Oakland and on the web. [http://www.kleinbottle.com/] I wish I had a Klein hat. -["NickSchmalenberger"]

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	+ * Ah yes, the bible of my generation. - ["ErikAnderson" Erik Anderson] (Age 16 in 1984)

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ZacMorris — 2005-11-01 18:24:05

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	+ * (Unless you are into that kinda thing you know? In which case, (theoretically discuss the ideas behind and the simulate how to) hack that Gibson.) Hacking Society isn't rigidly structured or guided by anything other than the random musings of the participants. -- ["ZacMorris"] + +
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	+ + * Because David and I happen to live here. Because its a college town full of folk who could use a chance to meet other people who enjoy building things, breaking things, and hacking at random stuff. Because its hard to find people interested in similar projects and something like this provides a way to do this.-- ["ZacMorris"] +
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- * Hacking Society is supposed to be much less organized. Theres not supposed to be some topic or speaker for each meeting or something like that. Its just a bunch of people who like to screw around with things (whether thats software, hardware, flamingos, whatever) getting together and screwing around with things. You know when you get together with your friends and hang out and mess around with something interesting? Yeah, its like that except with people who aren't imaginary. -- ["ZacMorris"]	+ * Hacking Society is supposed to be much less organized. Theres not supposed to be some topic or speaker for each meeting or something like that. Its supposed to have a geeky tilt, but no one is going to tell you want to work on. Its just a bunch of people who like to screw around with things (whether thats software, hardware, flamingos, whatever) getting together and screwing around with things. You know when you get together with your friends and hang out and mess around with something interesting? Yeah, its like that except with people who aren't imaginary. -- ["ZacMorris"]

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DavidReid — 2005-11-01 18:03:10

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- As the ["Davis Hacking Society"] was born with the creation of this wiki page the details are anything but finalized. Ideally the meetings should be held weekly or bi-weekly for 2-3 hours. Thursdays at 5-7 seem a likely time, and as for place anywhere with wireless should do. ["Cafe Roma"] perhaps? Please comment with suggestions for both time and place if you're interested.	+ As the ["Davis Hacking Society"] was born with the creation of this wiki page the details are anything but finalized. Ideally the meetings should be held weekly or bi-weekly for 2-3 hours. + + === Possible Locations === + * ["Cafe Roma"] by ["Campus"] + + === Possible Times === + * Every other Thursday 6-8pm

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DavidReid — 2005-11-01 17:54:57

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- * I don't think there is any overlap between this and LUGOD, most LUGs that I've been involved with (SVLug and MendoLUG) are more concerned with educating and informing and most importantly evangelizing. Also, Hacking Society isn't about Linux, it's not about Windows, it's not about Mac, it's about the one thing that all these have in common, Programming and Programmers, in truth it's not even about Programming, it's about Hacking, be it software or hardware. Hacking Society is much more like the 17th Century [wiki:WikiPedia:"Salon (gathering)" salon. LUGs are often (and unfortunately) one sided in their regular meetings, HS is about actively participating and exchanging ideas. Perhaps the difference is subtle, but it's important. Also one of the goals of hacking society is to be more regular than a LUG, you can work on anything at a hacking society, including your regular job (assuming it is computer oriented) or even gasp school work! :) -- ["DavidReid"]	+ * I don't think there is any overlap between this and LUGOD, most LUGs that I've been involved with (SVLug and MendoLUG) are more concerned with educating and informing and most importantly evangelizing. Also, Hacking Society isn't about Linux, it's not about Windows, it's not about Mac, it's about the one thing that all these have in common, Programming and Programmers, in truth it's not even about Programming, it's about Hacking, be it software or hardware. Hacking Society is much more like the 17th Century [wiki:WikiPedia:Salon_(gathering) salon]. LUGs are often (and unfortunately) one sided in their regular meetings, HS is about actively participating and exchanging ideas. Perhaps the difference is subtle, but it's important. Also one of the goals of hacking society is to be more regular than a LUG, you can work on anything at a hacking society, including your regular job (assuming it is computer oriented) or even gasp school work! :) -- ["DavidReid"]

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	+ * I don't think there is any overlap between this and LUGOD, most LUGs that I've been involved with (SVLug and MendoLUG) are more concerned with educating and informing and most importantly evangelizing. Also, Hacking Society isn't about Linux, it's not about Windows, it's not about Mac, it's about the one thing that all these have in common, Programming and Programmers, in truth it's not even about Programming, it's about Hacking, be it software or hardware. Hacking Society is much more like the 17th Century [wiki:WikiPedia:"Salon (gathering)" salon. LUGs are often (and unfortunately) one sided in their regular meetings, HS is about actively participating and exchanging ideas. Perhaps the difference is subtle, but it's important. Also one of the goals of hacking society is to be more regular than a LUG, you can work on anything at a hacking society, including your regular job (assuming it is computer oriented) or even gasp school work! :) -- ["DavidReid"]

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	+ ------ + ''2005-11-01 18:29:45'' [[nbsp]] I like this idea, though there is a large overlap between this an LUGOD, and LUGOD has been suffering poor partipation and attendance lately. --["RyanCastellucci"]

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DavidReid — 2005-11-01 16:48:59

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	+ ------ + ''2005-11-01 17:48:59'' [[nbsp]] So is anyone else interested in such a thing? Or should I just let it die now before I spend too much effort on it? --["DavidReid"]

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	+ * Another worthwhile read is Steven Levy's "Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution" --["DavidReid"]

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MikeIvanov — 2005-11-01 16:19:34

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	+ * Yep, he repeats a lot, but also some things are out of place or appear in a couple of places verbatim, as if something was moved but not deleted in the original spot. Far, far from perfect writing, but then I don't expect perfect writing from an astronomer/computer guy. Could have been a much shorter book, and better for it. Wiki tangents are the best. -["MikeIvanov"]

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	+ * What's annoying is he tends to start each chapter the same way, repeating the same thing or making the same point. Still a great story, though, and the fact that it's non-fiction makes up for the not perfect writing. I like how we totally deviated from the point of the page. -["GiladGurantz"]

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MikeIvanov — 2005-11-01 16:12:18

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- ------ - ''2005-11-01 17:10:42'' [[nbsp]] Yeah, Cuckoo's Egg is a great book, I read it when I was 10 (I think) and it was the first time I learned anything about UNIX. That book might be why I'm not a script kiddie. --["NickSchmalenberger"]	+ * Yeah, Cuckoo's Egg is a great book, I read it when I was 10 (I think) and it was the first time I learned anything about UNIX. That book might be why I'm not a script kiddie. --["NickSchmalenberger"] + * I'm actually reading that right now. The writing is a little frustrating, and I think the editor probably never got through the whole thing. But as a nerd, to me it's still worth the read. -["MikeIvanov"]

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	+ ------ + ''2005-11-01 17:10:42'' [[nbsp]] Yeah, Cuckoo's Egg is a great book, I read it when I was 10 (I think) and it was the first time I learned anything about UNIX. That book might be why I'm not a script kiddie. --["NickSchmalenberger"]

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	+ ------ + ''2005-11-01 17:05:29'' [[nbsp]] Hackers originally refered to people who were simply really skilled computer users. Read the book "A Cuckoo's Egg", it rules. --["GiladGurantz"]

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JeffreyNonken — 2005-11-01 11:40:02

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	+ ------ + ''2005-11-01 03:18:43'' [[nbsp]] I live with you so you already know my feelings David. Anyway, Thursday might be bad for me. The only problem is severe laziness and apathy by the majority of programmers in this town. --["ZacMorris"]

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DavidReid — 2005-10-31 17:39:09

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	+ == What is Hacking Society? == + [http://hackingsociety.org Hacking Society] is an organization whose goal is to foster the ["Geeks" geek] community through the shared experience of "Hacking" described in further detail at [http://hackingsociety.org/whatisit/ Hacking Society: What is it?]. It is meant to be a time and place for people of similar interests in computers and programming to meet, discuss, and share ideas with one another. It often consists of [wiki:WikiPedia:Pair_Programming Pair Programming]. + + == What Hacking Society is not. == + Hacking Society is not a time or place for illegal systems penetration or software piracy commonly and erroneously referred to as "Hacking" and "Cracking." + + == Why in Davis? == + It appears to me (["DavidReid"]) that Davis contains some interesting and skilled programmers (as evidenced by the existence of this wiki) and that they should be given a time and place to focus their energy away from work and school and allow for the free exchange of ideas with each other. + + == Details == + As the ["Davis Hacking Society"] was born with the creation of this wiki page the details are anything but finalized. Ideally the meetings should be held weekly or bi-weekly for 2-3 hours. Thursdays at 5-7 seem a likely time, and as for place anywhere with wireless should do. ["Cafe Roma"] perhaps? Please comment with suggestions for both time and place if you're interested.