Recent Changes for "Drinking Water" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_WaterRecent Changes of the page "Drinking Water" on Davis Wiki.en-us Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2013-06-10 14:47:00MargaretWong <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 18: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * ["Grocery Outlet"] -- $0.35/gallon (machines at side of building)</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2012-07-01 21:55:19JabberWokkyRevert to version 51 (Removed spam. What was that?). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 6: </td> <td> Line 6: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *'''Deionized water''' isn't typically readily available to the average consumer and requires a fairly expensive process. It is most often used in labs to ensure that chemistry results aren't skewed by dissolved impurities in modern water supplies: ions such as calcium, sodium, chlorides, etc. ''Y'all shoulda lernt this in high school chem!''<span>[http://sideeffectsadderall.org/ 1]</span> Deionization removes ions from water via ion exchange, much like those things in clubs that make smoke stick to your clothing. Safeway sells purified water under its own label by the gallon, which is indicated as having been either deionized or filtered by reverse osmosis. </td> <td> <span>+</span> *'''Deionized water''' isn't typically readily available to the average consumer and requires a fairly expensive process. It is most often used in labs to ensure that chemistry results aren't skewed by dissolved impurities in modern water supplies: ions such as calcium, sodium, chlorides, etc. ''Y'all shoulda lernt this in high school chem!'' Deionization removes ions from water via ion exchange, much like those things in clubs that make smoke stick to your clothing. Safeway sells purified water under its own label by the gallon, which is indicated as having been either deionized or filtered by reverse osmosis. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2012-07-01 21:52:02JamalJAdded referance <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 6: </td> <td> Line 6: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *'''Deionized water''' isn't typically readily available to the average consumer and requires a fairly expensive process. It is most often used in labs to ensure that chemistry results aren't skewed by dissolved impurities in modern water supplies: ions such as calcium, sodium, chlorides, etc. ''Y'all shoulda lernt this in high school chem!'' Deionization removes ions from water via ion exchange, much like those things in clubs that make smoke stick to your clothing. Safeway sells purified water under its own label by the gallon, which is indicated as having been either deionized or filtered by reverse osmosis. </td> <td> <span>+</span> *'''Deionized water''' isn't typically readily available to the average consumer and requires a fairly expensive process. It is most often used in labs to ensure that chemistry results aren't skewed by dissolved impurities in modern water supplies: ions such as calcium, sodium, chlorides, etc. ''Y'all shoulda lernt this in high school chem!''<span>[http://sideeffectsadderall.org/ 1]</span> Deionization removes ions from water via ion exchange, much like those things in clubs that make smoke stick to your clothing. Safeway sells purified water under its own label by the gallon, which is indicated as having been either deionized or filtered by reverse osmosis. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2010-09-06 22:40:45shepherds <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["Davis Food Co-Op"] -- $0.3<span>2</span>/gallon (machines in back of Bulk Department)<br> <span>-</span> * ["H2O to Go"] -- $0.4<span>8</span>/gallon ($0.4<span>0</span> cents if purchasing 100 Gal in advance), reverse osmosis, charcoal filter and UV light </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["Davis Food Co-Op"] -- $0.3<span>9</span>/gallon (machines in back of Bulk Department)<br> <span>+</span> * ["H2O to Go"] -- $0.4<span>5</span>/gallon ($0.4<span>3</span> cents if purchasing 100 Gal in advance), <span>distillation/</span>reverse osmosis, charcoal filter and UV light </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2010-06-27 00:24:39AmyOheComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 85: </td> <td> Line 85: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-06-27 00:24:39'' [[nbsp]] To the best of my knowledge, diH2O won't hurt you as long as you don't drink excessive amounts of water in general.<br> + <br> + My answer to all this: run it through a Brita filter and drink it. Bottled water is such a damned waste to the consumer, the environment, and a huge scam in terms of 'water quality'. I'd also like to believe I'm getting my daily dose of vitamins, minerals, and Adderall to keep me going in the day from this delicious delicious Davis water. --["Users/AmyOhe"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2010-06-26 15:51:43AsmaMaryamMohseni(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 31: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Whole-house water softeners (using the standard mineral tank with polystyrene beads, also known as resin or zeolite) and under-sink filters for drinking water (activated carbon and reverse-osmosis). [http://<span>ylw</span>b<span>ook</span>.<span>iaf.net</span>/<span>ypbook.php?ReportType=44&amp;aid=466&amp;sid=&amp;refer=&amp;adword=&amp;qbn=blue+fountain+water&amp;qbc=&amp;qc=davis&amp;qs=ca&amp;sid=96</span> Blue Fountain Water] is a local, though somewhat pricey, outfit that sells softeners and filters. Their water softener is completely mechanical and uses on-demand backflush timing instead of fixed timing so the salt usage is based on actual, not average, water use. </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Whole-house water softeners (using the standard mineral tank with polystyrene beads, also known as resin or zeolite) and under-sink filters for drinking water (activated carbon and reverse-osmosis). [http://<span>www.</span>b<span>luefountainwater</span>.<span>com</span>/ Blue Fountain Water] is a local, though somewhat pricey, outfit that sells softeners and filters. Their water softener is completely mechanical and uses on-demand backflush timing instead of fixed timing so the salt usage is based on actual, not average, water use. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2010-03-16 22:41:51MaxLucasLongs to CVS <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * ["CVS"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store)</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- * ["Longs"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store)</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["Save<span>-</span>Mart"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store) </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["Save<span>&nbsp;</span>Mart"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store) </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 36: </td> <td> Line 36: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * [wiki:WikiPedia:Arrowhead_Water Arrowhead Water] - (ow<span>ned by Perrier, which is in turn</span> owned by Nestle)<br> <span>-</span> * ["Alhambra Water"] - b<span>ought out [wiki:WikiPedia:Sier</span>ra<span>_Spri</span>n<span>g_Water Sierra Spring Water] in 2005 (owne</span>d<span>&nbsp;by McKesson Water)</span>. </td> <td> <span>+</span> * [wiki:WikiPedia:Arrowhead_Water Arrowhead Water] - (<span>N</span>ow owned by Nestle)<br> <span>+</span> * ["Alhambra Water"] - <span>Now a Coca Cola </span>brand. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2010-03-16 15:40:20LillianChowNugget prices and vending machine locations <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- * ["Nugget"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ * ["Nugget"] -- $0.33/gallon (machine inside front of South Davis store, between produce and seafood counter in North Davis store), $0.35 (vending machine outside South Davis store)</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2010-03-09 13:54:55StephanieStudebakeradded IGA and Circle K <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 15: </td> <td> Line 15: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["<span>Sav</span>e<span>-Mart</span>"] -- $0.3<span>0</span>/gallon (vending machine<span>s</span> in front of store) </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["<span>Circl</span>e<span>&nbsp;K</span>"] -- $0.3<span>5</span>/gallon (vending machine in front of store) </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * ["Save-Mart"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store)<br> + * ["Westlake IGA"] -- $0.35/gallon (vending machine in front of store)</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2009-12-02 13:48:07JoePomidor(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 75: </td> <td> Line 75: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Actually, the two sites you speak of are Superfund sites, and as such they are regulated by the federal government. The amount of cleanup that occurs is related to how much of a danger is posed, and obviously in the two sites here it is not very dangerous. The pollutants created by the two factories spreads out in an underground 'plume', the extent of which is fairly easy to map and, thus, avoid. Beyond that, most water wells are very deep, some going as much as 1800- feet underground, well below the plume. In any event, the water is regularly tested and there are strict federal guidelines that water quality must adhere to. The main cause of any flavor in Davis water is simply the hardness, which is primarily calcium. --["Users/JoePomidor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2009-12-02 00:41:07NickSchmalenbergerescape the evil characters! <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 74: </td> <td> Line 74: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2008-06-26 20:28:53'' [[nbsp]] YUCK!! Davis water is gross! People who drink this are fools, Davis and the surrounding area is POISONED people. Research it! This "quant little town" has 2, thats right, 2 toxic dump sites, toxins that have seeped into the well water and that is what makes the water here so foul. Ever drive down 2nd street-all the way? If you look to your left there is f#$%ing biohazard signs, the place is fenced off because for TWENTY years a pesticide company was dumping posion in UNLINED pits....do you know what this means? The pesticides are leaking all over this "happy f*^&amp; place" And there is also a posion site in North or West Davis, Im not sure of the exact location...This place is so gross, I had no idea about how toxic it was here and I DEEPLY REGRET ever moving here. This entire town should be condemned. --["Users/realitycheck"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2008-06-26 20:28:53'' [[nbsp]] YUCK!! Davis water is gross! People who drink this are fools, Davis and the surrounding area is POISONED people. Research it! This "quant little town" has 2, thats right, 2 toxic dump sites, toxins that have seeped into the well water and that is what makes the water here so foul. Ever drive down 2nd street-all the way? If you look to your left there is f#$%ing biohazard signs, the place is fenced off because for TWENTY years a pesticide company was dumping posion in UNLINED pits....do you know what this means? The pesticides are leaking all over this "happy <span>{{{</span>f*^&amp;<span>}}}</span> place" And there is also a posion site in North or West Davis, Im not sure of the exact location...This place is so gross, I had no idea about how toxic it was here and I DEEPLY REGRET ever moving here. This entire town should be condemned. --["Users/realitycheck"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2009-12-01 23:52:54WaterWesleyComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 75: </td> <td> Line 75: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-12-01 22:52:54'' [[nbsp]] Davis water is pretty gross. Lots of hardness.<br> + Personally I use an RO (reverse osmosis) and a whole house water softener to treat my water, both from the mentioned Blue Fountain Water. I have been very satisfied with my purchase, while not very cheap, their water softeners (Kinetico) are the best and most advanced in the business. They use the least salt and much less water than other units. So they are really the only option when looking to go greener. I did my research, and I decided to go with Blue Fountain. Their owner/salesman is a local guy who lives in Winters and has been here for years. So I felt more than ok supporting the local economy.<br> + <br> + The water from the RO is very tasty, and I never have trouble when the come to change the filters, very respectful staff, and very helpful. The technician was very knowledgeable and definately knew what he was doing<br> + <br> + over all very good --["Users/WaterWesley"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2009-01-20 12:54:32JoePomidori think this is the correct price now <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["H2O to Go"] -- $0.48/gallon ($0.40 cents if purchasing 100 Gal in advance), reverse osmosis, charcol filter and UV light </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["H2O to Go"] -- $0.48/gallon ($0.40 cents if purchasing 100 Gal in advance), reverse osmosis, charco<span>a</span>l filter and UV light </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 20: </td> <td> Line 20: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["Safeway"] -- $0.<span>29</span>/gallon with Safeway card. (vending machines inside, by the registers in ["The Marketplace"] store, and by the produce in the ["South Davis"] store.) </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["Safeway"] -- $0.<span>35</span>/gallon with Safeway card. (vending machines inside, by the registers in ["The Marketplace"] store, and by the produce in the ["South Davis"] store.) </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2008-07-18 19:25:33DavidRobinsonCorrecting "McCesson" to "McKesson." <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 35: </td> <td> Line 35: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["Alhambra Water"] - bought out [wiki:WikiPedia:Sierra_Spring_Water Sierra Spring Water] in 2005 (owned by Mc<span>C</span>esson Water). </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["Alhambra Water"] - bought out [wiki:WikiPedia:Sierra_Spring_Water Sierra Spring Water] in 2005 (owned by Mc<span>K</span>esson Water). </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2008-07-18 16:14:36MaryLieth <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 8: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *'''Softened Water''' is regular tap water which has been treated with sodium chloride via a water softener. Davis ["tap water"] is considered "hard", meaning that it contains high levels positively-ionized minerals like calcium and magnesium. Essentially, a softener replaces the hard minerals with sodium and potassium ions, giving the water a salty taste. Hard water leaves mineral deposits on metal piping and cleans less effectively than purified or softened water, so many homes in Davis have softeners that pump softened water into bathrooms and kitchens for cleaning purposes. Though softened water is fine to drink or use in cooking, most people don't like the taste, and so people either have an additional tap for filtered or tap water, or drink bottled water instead. It also should not be used to water plants, though, since many plants cannot tolerate high levels of sodium.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 15: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["<span>Alb</span>ert<span>sons</span>"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store) </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["<span>Sav</span>e<span>-Ma</span>rt"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store) </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 22: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> == Home Purification Systems == </td> <td> <span>+</span> == Home Purification Systems <span>and Softeners </span>== </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 37: </td> <td> Line 38: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - Bottled drinking water can be found almost everywhere. Be sure to ["recycle"] the containers!</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Bottled drinking water can be bought almost everywhere. However, recently the ["Davis City Council"] decided that they would no longer purchase inividual water bottles for city events and employees, instead beginning the sale of reusable Nalgene bottles. The profits made by the sale of these bottles will go towards other sustainability programs. ([http://www.cityofdavis.org/meetings/councilpackets/20080610/04I_Nalgene_Reusable_Bottles_Initiative.pdf See the resolution here.]) Be sure to ["recycle"] the containers!</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 42: </td> <td> Line 42: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Bottled water is for the faint of heart or the tourists traveling in third world countries. You think [wiki:WikiPedia:Ernest_Hemingway Ernest Hemingway] drank bottled water? Get some cahonies and gulp it down right from the tap. --["RobRoy"]<br> <span>-</span> I agree! Davis water is great stuff! --["NickSchmalenberger"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> Bottled water is for the faint of heart or the tourists traveling in third world countries. You think [wiki:WikiPedia:Ernest_Hemingway Ernest Hemingway] drank bottled water? Get some cahonies and gulp it down right from the tap. --["<span>Users/</span>RobRoy"]<br> <span>+</span> I agree! Davis water is great stuff! --["<span>Users/</span>NickSchmalenberger"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 45: </td> <td> Line 45: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> cahonies must be some spelling of "cancer" that i was not previously aware of --["ArlenAbraham"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> cahonies must be some spelling of "cancer" that i was not previously aware of --["<span>Users/</span>ArlenAbraham"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 47: </td> <td> Line 47: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> I don't know if Hemmingway was facing quite the same industrial contaminants. The food science team at ["Hunan"] determined that only by placing a whole lemon, sliced in two into a pitcher of water can the davis water harshness be disguised. --["JaimeRaba"]<br> <span>-</span> I'm adding a dozen of lemons to my weekly shopping list. --["CristinaPerdomo"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> I don't know if Hemmingway was facing quite the same industrial contaminants. The food science team at ["Hunan"] determined that only by placing a whole lemon, sliced in two into a pitcher of water can the davis water harshness be disguised. --["<span>Users/</span>JaimeRaba"]<br> <span>+</span> I'm adding a dozen of lemons to my weekly shopping list. --["<span>Users/</span>CristinaPerdomo"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 50: </td> <td> Line 50: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2005-11-19 22:40:10'' [[nbsp]] Tap water with pesticides or plasticizer leached from plastic bottles, which shall I have today? --["SteveDavison"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2005-11-19 22:40:10'' [[nbsp]] Tap water with pesticides or plasticizer leached from plastic bottles, which shall I have today? --["<span>Users/</span>SteveDavison"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 52: </td> <td> Line 52: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2006-02-21 16:35:37'' [[nbsp]] Sadly, I've seen those stupid plastic water bottles floating and tumbling everywhere from the Colorado to the Coruh River, tumbling in Arches, and littering the streets of Asia and Europe. I find it pretty disgusting that the same people who would stand high and mighty when it comes to cars, WalMart, IKEA and the like would buy obscene volumes of bottled water in a country that offers potable water virtually everywhere. At least in second and third world countries, bottled water can be justified, but even then you purchase larger bottles or just boil your water! --["AlphaDog"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2006-02-21 16:35:37'' [[nbsp]] Sadly, I've seen those stupid plastic water bottles floating and tumbling everywhere from the Colorado to the Coruh River, tumbling in Arches, and littering the streets of Asia and Europe. I find it pretty disgusting that the same people who would stand high and mighty when it comes to cars, WalMart, IKEA and the like would buy obscene volumes of bottled water in a country that offers potable water virtually everywhere. At least in second and third world countries, bottled water can be justified, but even then you purchase larger bottles or just boil your water! --["<span>Users/</span>AlphaDog"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 54: </td> <td> Line 54: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2006-02-21 18:20:15'' [[nbsp]] Super-purified water (devoid of minerals of any sort) can drain the body of minerals and should only be used to chemical experiments and not for drinking. --["TusharRawat"]<br> <span>-</span> Not really. Water that is without any dissolved substances in it (water for injection) is not commercially available to consumers. You pretty much have to get it from chemical supply companies, is extremely expensive, and would come with plenty of warnings against drinking. "Purified water" in the grocery store will not drain your precious minerals away from you. If you don't eat any more iron, that will be a problem, but not because the purified water will be taking it out of you. -["PhilSpear"]<br> <span>-</span> I'm referring to deionized water, found in any chemistry lab on campus. Drinking that water is not a good idea, and I mention this only because I've seen people filling their water bottles from that tap. --["TusharRawat"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2006-02-21 18:20:15'' [[nbsp]] Super-purified water (devoid of minerals of any sort) can drain the body of minerals and should only be used to chemical experiments and not for drinking. --["<span>Users/</span>TusharRawat"]<br> <span>+</span> Not really. Water that is without any dissolved substances in it (water for injection) is not commercially available to consumers. You pretty much have to get it from chemical supply companies, is extremely expensive, and would come with plenty of warnings against drinking. "Purified water" in the grocery store will not drain your precious minerals away from you. If you don't eat any more iron, that will be a problem, but not because the purified water will be taking it out of you. -["<span>Users/</span>PhilSpear"]<br> <span>+</span> I'm referring to deionized water, found in any chemistry lab on campus. Drinking that water is not a good idea, and I mention this only because I've seen people filling their water bottles from that tap. --["<span>Users/</span>TusharRawat"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 58: </td> <td> Line 58: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2006-11-27 13:31:03'' [[nbsp]] This page is titled "Drinking Water." Do water softening systems really belong here, or should this page be expanded beyond drinking water?? Another thought might be to simply transfer the information about water softeners to the ["Tap Water"] page or combine the whole lot into a big Water page. Thoughts? --["AlphaDog"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2006-11-27 13:31:03'' [[nbsp]] This page is titled "Drinking Water." Do water softening systems really belong here, or should this page be expanded beyond drinking water?? Another thought might be to simply transfer the information about water softeners to the ["Tap Water"] page or combine the whole lot into a big Water page. Thoughts? --["<span>Users/</span>AlphaDog"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 62: </td> <td> Line 62: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2007-01-15 22:35:35'' [[nbsp]] What is the issue with water? I know a lot of people in Davis get bottled water, but I'm not sure why somebody on a bicycle would bother. --["NickSchmalenberger"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2007-01-15 22:35:35'' [[nbsp]] What is the issue with water? I know a lot of people in Davis get bottled water, but I'm not sure why somebody on a bicycle would bother. --["<span>Users/</span>NickSchmalenberger"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 64: </td> <td> Line 64: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2007-01-20 11:17:56'' [[nbsp]] For the record, Davis water is slightly toxic. If you read the [http://cityofdavis.org/pw/water/WaterQuality.cfm report] the city sends out to the residents, the water does test positive for carcinogens, although the findings are below levels considered dangerous to one's health according to the government group doing the testing. Thus, buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis. --["ImNotABear"]<br> <span>-</span> More people probably drown than get cancer from bad water, so I don't think it is particularly dangerous. Did you know that sunlight is a carcinogen? Do you have a degree in environmental toxicology? Because I don't and I have other things to do which is why I am willing to take the government's word on this. --["NickSchmalenberger"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2007-01-20 11:17:56'' [[nbsp]] For the record, Davis water is slightly toxic. If you read the [http://cityofdavis.org/pw/water/WaterQuality.cfm report] the city sends out to the residents, the water does test positive for carcinogens, although the findings are below levels considered dangerous to one's health according to the government group doing the testing. Thus, buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis. --["<span>Users/</span>ImNotABear"]<br> <span>+</span> More people probably drown than get cancer from bad water, so I don't think it is particularly dangerous. Did you know that sunlight is a carcinogen? Do you have a degree in environmental toxicology? Because I don't and I have other things to do which is why I am willing to take the government's word on this. --["<span>Users/</span>NickSchmalenberger"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 67: </td> <td> Line 67: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Choose to drink the water or don't. I don't particularly care what a person does. But, you also cannot claim that the Davis water is 100% safe, if you don't even read the report the city sends out. You seem to trust the goverment, then why don't you believe the pamphlet that the city publishes that tells everyone that the water is slightly contaminated. Does it violate standards set by the US government? No, Davis water doesn't for the most part; however, there was a high level of bacteria that was found in 2005 (the last year published). In really bold letters it says '''"Adverse Health Effects"''' and then lists the trace amounts that are present in Davis water. Therefore, Davis water has trace amounts of some poisons and carcinogens in it. A degree in chemistry or toxicology is not necessary, but helpful (if one wants to know why these particular chemicals are tested for). I never said Davis water will give one cancer; I only said the report from the city states that some carcinogens are in the water in trace amounts. Research that links carcinogens and cancer are rarely definitive because of the interactions of an individual's predisposition for the disease and the environment of the individual. Some people try to lessen their contact with carcinogens because they have a predisposition to the disease or as a general precautionary measure. And, yes, of course I know sunlight is a carcinogen in high doses, but it's also a source for vitamin D. Should people run out and spend hours and hours in the sun without some protection for the vitamin D? Probably not. But, if they choose to, I don't particularly care. I care that people understand what information is around them. And, yes, I do have a PhD. --["ImNotABear"]<br> <span>-</span> Nice job changing the subject, we were talking about cancer, which harmless bacteria in Davis water have little to do with. I never said "Davis water is 100% safe", just that I don't think it is particularly dangerous. This conclusion is based on its potentially dangerous contents being below the levels for unsafety as defined by relevant standards and described in the document you cite. These standards are a useful, practical, and arbitrary definition of safety for most people, including myself, and they were written for just that purpose, not to define safety absolutely. Exceptional people for whom these standards are not appropriate will either be aware of that or suffer the effects of their ignorance until they learn or die. Meanwhile, it is not helpful for people like you to make scary but not very meaningful statements. I think that somebody who, as a general precautionary measure and not being predisposed to cancer, tries to lessen their contact with water because it contains carcinogens below levels defined to be unsafe is paranoid. Who knows what other materials are in the bottled or filtered water? I have read that some municipal water supplies have stricter regulations than private sources. I'm glad that you know that sunlight is a source of vitamin D, because then you know that it is helpful in small doses. Maybe you also know the quote from the alchemist [wiki:WikiPedia:Paracelsus Paracelsus]: "All things are poison and nothing is without poison, only the dose permits something not to be poisonous." If you care so little for whether or not people drink Davis water, only that they understand the risks, then why do you state "buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis."? Also, I didn't ask if you had a PhD. I asked if you had a degree in environmental toxicology. I don't think the benefits of not drinking municipal water in Davis are so great as to be worthwhile for most people, certainly not a necessity, and even less worthwhile for somebody who does not have a car. --["NickSchmalenberger"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> Choose to drink the water or don't. I don't particularly care what a person does. But, you also cannot claim that the Davis water is 100% safe, if you don't even read the report the city sends out. You seem to trust the goverment, then why don't you believe the pamphlet that the city publishes that tells everyone that the water is slightly contaminated. Does it violate standards set by the US government? No, Davis water doesn't for the most part; however, there was a high level of bacteria that was found in 2005 (the last year published). In really bold letters it says '''"Adverse Health Effects"''' and then lists the trace amounts that are present in Davis water. Therefore, Davis water has trace amounts of some poisons and carcinogens in it. A degree in chemistry or toxicology is not necessary, but helpful (if one wants to know why these particular chemicals are tested for). I never said Davis water will give one cancer; I only said the report from the city states that some carcinogens are in the water in trace amounts. Research that links carcinogens and cancer are rarely definitive because of the interactions of an individual's predisposition for the disease and the environment of the individual. Some people try to lessen their contact with carcinogens because they have a predisposition to the disease or as a general precautionary measure. And, yes, of course I know sunlight is a carcinogen in high doses, but it's also a source for vitamin D. Should people run out and spend hours and hours in the sun without some protection for the vitamin D? Probably not. But, if they choose to, I don't particularly care. I care that people understand what information is around them. And, yes, I do have a PhD. --["<span>Users/</span>ImNotABear"]<br> <span>+</span> Nice job changing the subject, we were talking about cancer, which harmless bacteria in Davis water have little to do with. I never said "Davis water is 100% safe", just that I don't think it is particularly dangerous. This conclusion is based on its potentially dangerous contents being below the levels for unsafety as defined by relevant standards and described in the document you cite. These standards are a useful, practical, and arbitrary definition of safety for most people, including myself, and they were written for just that purpose, not to define safety absolutely. Exceptional people for whom these standards are not appropriate will either be aware of that or suffer the effects of their ignorance until they learn or die. Meanwhile, it is not helpful for people like you to make scary but not very meaningful statements. I think that somebody who, as a general precautionary measure and not being predisposed to cancer, tries to lessen their contact with water because it contains carcinogens below levels defined to be unsafe is paranoid. Who knows what other materials are in the bottled or filtered water? I have read that some municipal water supplies have stricter regulations than private sources. I'm glad that you know that sunlight is a source of vitamin D, because then you know that it is helpful in small doses. Maybe you also know the quote from the alchemist [wiki:WikiPedia:Paracelsus Paracelsus]: "All things are poison and nothing is without poison, only the dose permits something not to be poisonous." If you care so little for whether or not people drink Davis water, only that they understand the risks, then why do you state "buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis."? Also, I didn't ask if you had a PhD. I asked if you had a degree in environmental toxicology. I don't think the benefits of not drinking municipal water in Davis are so great as to be worthwhile for most people, certainly not a necessity, and even less worthwhile for somebody who does not have a car. --["<span>Users/</span>NickSchmalenberger"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 70: </td> <td> Line 70: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2007-01-23 03:42:31'' [[nbsp]] Drinking too much water, in events such as hazing or odd radio station contests, can be fatal. Google "water intoxication" for details. --["GreggAlexander"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2007-01-23 03:42:31'' [[nbsp]] Drinking too much water, in events such as hazing or odd radio station contests, can be fatal. Google "water intoxication" for details. --["<span>Users/</span>GreggAlexander"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2008-06-27 10:07:03PxlAted(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Much like the rest of the world, our city's ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many residents for drinking. While some may view fresh, clean free water as a basic right and necessity, many corporations offer some filtered or purified water of varying quality, often at prices 3 or 5 times as expensive as gasoline! Home filtration systems may be one of the least expensive ways to get drinkable water. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Much like the rest of the world, our city's ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many <span>["Davis"] </span>residents for drinking. While some may view fresh, clean free water as a basic right and necessity, many corporations offer some filtered or purified water of varying quality, often at prices 3 or 5 times as expensive as gasoline! Home filtration systems may be one of the least expensive ways to get drinkable water. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2008-06-27 10:06:39PxlAted(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Much like the rest of the world, <span>City</span> ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many <span>["Davis"] </span>residents for drinking. While some may view fresh, clean free water as a basic right and necessity, many corporations offer some filtered or purified water of varying quality, often at prices 3 or 5 times as expensive as gasoline! Home filtration systems may be one of the least expensive ways to get drinkable water. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Much like the rest of the world, <span>our city's</span> ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many residents for drinking. While some may view fresh, clean free water as a basic right and necessity, many corporations offer some filtered or purified water of varying quality, often at prices 3 or 5 times as expensive as gasoline! Home filtration systems may be one of the least expensive ways to get drinkable water. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2008-06-27 10:05:32PxlAted(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- City ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many ["Davis"] residents for drinking. Another option is to buy water from one of the [#TOC options] listed near the bottom of this page.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Much like the rest of the world, City ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many ["Davis"] residents for drinking. While some may view fresh, clean free water as a basic right and necessity, many corporations offer some filtered or purified water of varying quality, often at prices 3 or 5 times as expensive as gasoline! Home filtration systems may be one of the least expensive ways to get drinkable water.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2008-06-26 20:28:53realitycheckComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 73: </td> <td> Line 73: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2008-06-26 20:28:53'' [[nbsp]] YUCK!! Davis water is gross! People who drink this are fools, Davis and the surrounding area is POISONED people. Research it! This "quant little town" has 2, thats right, 2 toxic dump sites, toxins that have seeped into the well water and that is what makes the water here so foul. Ever drive down 2nd street-all the way? If you look to your left there is f#$%ing biohazard signs, the place is fenced off because for TWENTY years a pesticide company was dumping posion in UNLINED pits....do you know what this means? The pesticides are leaking all over this "happy f*^&amp; place" And there is also a posion site in North or West Davis, Im not sure of the exact location...This place is so gross, I had no idea about how toxic it was here and I DEEPLY REGRET ever moving here. This entire town should be condemned. --["Users/realitycheck"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2008-01-21 22:27:46KyleLanderhoffisComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 71: </td> <td> Line 71: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2008-01-21 21:27:46'' [[nbsp]] an interesting study: plastic water bottle cancer causing effect (pollutants from excessive purification process, transportation emissions, and plastic creation and leaching) vs. cancer causing pollutants in municipal water --["Users/KyleLanderhoffis"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-03-13 10:10:12WesHardakerbetter wording <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["H2O to Go"] -- $0.48/gallon ($0.40 cents if <span>advance </span>purchase), reverse osmosis, charcol filter and UV light </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["H2O to Go"] -- $0.48/gallon ($0.40 cents if purchas<span>ing 100 Gal in advanc</span>e), reverse osmosis, charcol filter and UV light </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-03-13 10:08:51WesHardakermention cheaper H2O to go price if advanced purchase <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["H2O to Go"] -- $0.48/gallon, reverse osmosis, charcol filter and UV light </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["H2O to Go"] -- $0.48/gallon<span>&nbsp;($0.40 cents if advance purchase)</span>, reverse osmosis, charcol filter and UV light </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-03-13 08:17:04TusharRawat <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 56: </td> <td> Line 56: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ I'm referring to deionized water, found in any chemistry lab on campus. Drinking that water is not a good idea, and I mention this only because I've seen people filling their water bottles from that tap. --["TusharRawat"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-03-13 00:30:41PhilSpeardisagree with comment made <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 55: </td> <td> Line 55: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Not really. Water that is without any dissolved substances in it (water for injection) is not commercially available to consumers. You pretty much have to get it from chemical supply companies, is extremely expensive, and would come with plenty of warnings against drinking. "Purified water" in the grocery store will not drain your precious minerals away from you. If you don't eat any more iron, that will be a problem, but not because the purified water will be taking it out of you. -["PhilSpear"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-01-25 01:47:59NickSchmalenberger <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 66: </td> <td> Line 66: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Nice job changing the subject, we were talking about cancer, which harmless bacteria in Davis water have little to do with. I never said "Davis water is 100% safe", just that I don't think it is particularly dangerous. This conclusion is based on its potentially dangerous contents being below the levels for unsafety as defined by relevant standards and described in the document you cite. These standards are a useful, practical, and arbitrary definition of safety for most people, including myself, and they were written for just that purpose, not to define safety absolutely. Exceptional people for whom these standards are not appropriate will either be aware of that or suffer the effects of their ignorance until they learn or die. Meanwhile, it is not helpful for people like you to make scary but not very meaningful statements. I think that somebody who, as a general precautionary measure and not being predisposed to cancer, tries to lessen their contact with water because it contains carcinogens below levels defined to be unsafe is paranoid. Who knows what other m<span>iner</span>als are in the bottled or filtered water? I have read that <span>most</span> municipal water supplies have stricter regulations than private sources. I'm glad that you know that sunlight is a source of vitamin D, because then you know that it is helpful in small doses. Maybe you also know the quote from the alchemist [wiki:WikiPedia:Paracelsus Paracelsus]: "All things are poison and nothing is without poison, only the dose permits something not to be poisonous." If you care so little for whether or not people drink Davis water, only that they understand the risks, then why do you state "buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis."? Also, I didn't ask if you had a PhD. I asked if you had a degree in environmental toxicology. I don't think the benefits of not drinking municipal water in Davis are so great as to be worthwhile for most people, certainly not a necessity, and even less worthwhile for somebody who does not have a car. --["NickSchmalenberger"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> Nice job changing the subject, we were talking about cancer, which harmless bacteria in Davis water have little to do with. I never said "Davis water is 100% safe", just that I don't think it is particularly dangerous. This conclusion is based on its potentially dangerous contents being below the levels for unsafety as defined by relevant standards and described in the document you cite. These standards are a useful, practical, and arbitrary definition of safety for most people, including myself, and they were written for just that purpose, not to define safety absolutely. Exceptional people for whom these standards are not appropriate will either be aware of that or suffer the effects of their ignorance until they learn or die. Meanwhile, it is not helpful for people like you to make scary but not very meaningful statements. I think that somebody who, as a general precautionary measure and not being predisposed to cancer, tries to lessen their contact with water because it contains carcinogens below levels defined to be unsafe is paranoid. Who knows what other m<span>ateri</span>als are in the bottled or filtered water? I have read that <span>some</span> municipal water supplies have stricter regulations than private sources. I'm glad that you know that sunlight is a source of vitamin D, because then you know that it is helpful in small doses. Maybe you also know the quote from the alchemist [wiki:WikiPedia:Paracelsus Paracelsus]: "All things are poison and nothing is without poison, only the dose permits something not to be poisonous." If you care so little for whether or not people drink Davis water, only that they understand the risks, then why do you state "buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis."? Also, I didn't ask if you had a PhD. I asked if you had a degree in environmental toxicology. I don't think the benefits of not drinking municipal water in Davis are so great as to be worthwhile for most people, certainly not a necessity, and even less worthwhile for somebody who does not have a car. --["NickSchmalenberger"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-01-25 01:37:27NickSchmalenbergerreply to imnotabear <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 66: </td> <td> Line 66: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> </td> <td> <span>+ Nice job changing the subject, we were talking about cancer, which harmless bacteria in Davis water have little to do with. I never said "Davis water is 100% safe", just that I don't think it is particularly dangerous. This conclusion is based on its potentially dangerous contents being below the levels for unsafety as defined by relevant standards and described in the document you cite. These standards are a useful, practical, and arbitrary definition of safety for most people, including myself, and they were written for just that purpose, not to define safety absolutely. Exceptional people for whom these standards are not appropriate will either be aware of that or suffer the effects of their ignorance until they learn or die. Meanwhile, it is not helpful for people like you to make scary but not very meaningful statements. I think that somebody who, as a general precautionary measure and not being predisposed to cancer, tries to lessen their contact with water because it contains carcinogens below levels defined to be unsafe is paranoid. Who knows what other minerals are in the bottled or filtered water? I have read that most municipal water supplies have stricter regulations than private sources. I'm glad that you know that sunlight is a source of vitamin D, because then you know that it is helpful in small doses. Maybe you also know the quote from the alchemist [wiki:WikiPedia:Paracelsus Paracelsus]: "All things are poison and nothing is without poison, only the dose permits something not to be poisonous." If you care so little for whether or not people drink Davis water, only that they understand the risks, then why do you state "buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis."? Also, I didn't ask if you had a PhD. I asked if you had a degree in environmental toxicology. I don't think the benefits of not drinking municipal water in Davis are so great as to be worthwhile for most people, certainly not a necessity, and even less worthwhile for somebody who does not have a car. --["NickSchmalenberger"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-01-23 15:40:49ImNotABear <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 62: </td> <td> Line 62: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2007-01-20 11:17:56'' [[nbsp]] <span>Lots of good info! Thanks! And, f</span>or the record, Davis water is slightly toxic. If you read the [http://cityofdavis.org/pw/water/WaterQuality.cfm report] the city sends out to the residents, the water does test positive for carcinogens, although the findings are below levels considered dangerous to one's health according to the government group doing the testing. Thus, buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis<span>&nbsp;whether you have a car or not</span>. --["ImNotABear"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2007-01-20 11:17:56'' [[nbsp]] <span>&nbsp;F</span>or the record, Davis water is slightly toxic. If you read the [http://cityofdavis.org/pw/water/WaterQuality.cfm report] the city sends out to the residents, the water does test positive for carcinogens, although the findings are below levels considered dangerous to one's health according to the government group doing the testing. Thus, buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis. --["ImNotABear"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 65: </td> <td> Line 65: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Choose to drink the water or don't. I don't particularly care what a person does. But, you also cannot claim that the Davis water is 100% safe, if you don't even read the report the city sends out. You seem to trust the goverment, then why don't you believe the pamphlet that the city publishes that tells everyone that the water is slightly contaminated. Does it violate standards set by the US government? No, Davis water doesn't; however, there was a high level of bacteria that was found in 2005 (the last year published). In really bold letters it says '''"Adverse Health Effects"''' and then lists the trace amounts that are present in Davis water. Therefore, Davis water has trace amounts of carcinogens in it. A degree in chemistry or toxicology is not necessary, but helpful (if one wants to know why these particular chemicals are tested for). <span>Unfortunately, r</span>esearch that links carcinogens and cancer are rarely definitive because of the interactions of an individual's predisposition for the disease and the environment of the individual. Some people try to lessen their contact with carcinogens because they have a predisposition to the disease or as a general precautionary measure. And, yes, of course I know sunlight is a carcinogen in high doses, but it's also a source for vitamin D. Should people run out and spend hours and hours in the sun without some protection for the vitamin D? Probably not. But, if they choose to, I don't particularly care. I care that people understand what information is around them. And, yes, I do have a PhD. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Choose to drink the water or don't. I don't particularly care what a person does. But, you also cannot claim that the Davis water is 100% safe, if you don't even read the report the city sends out. You seem to trust the goverment, then why don't you believe the pamphlet that the city publishes that tells everyone that the water is slightly contaminated. Does it violate standards set by the US government? No, Davis water doesn'<span>t for the most par</span>t; however, there was a high level of bacteria that was found in 2005 (the last year published). In really bold letters it says '''"Adverse Health Effects"''' and then lists the trace amounts that are present in Davis water. Therefore, Davis water has trace amounts of <span>some poisons and </span>carcinogens in it. A degree in chemistry or toxicology is not necessary, but helpful (if one wants to know why these particular chemicals are tested for). <span>I never said Davis water will give one cancer; I only said the report from the city states that some carcinogens are in the water in trace amounts. R</span>esearch that links carcinogens and cancer are rarely definitive because of the interactions of an individual's predisposition for the disease and the environment of the individual. Some people try to lessen their contact with carcinogens because they have a predisposition to the disease or as a general precautionary measure. And, yes, of course I know sunlight is a carcinogen in high doses, but it's also a source for vitamin D. Should people run out and spend hours and hours in the sun without some protection for the vitamin D? Probably not. But, if they choose to, I don't particularly care. I care that people understand what information is around them. And, yes, I do have a PhD.<span>&nbsp;--["ImNotABear"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-01-23 14:54:32ImNotABear <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 64: </td> <td> Line 64: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Choose to drink the water or don't. I don't particularly care what a person does. But, you also cannot claim that the Davis water is 100% safe, if you don't even read the report the city sends out. You seem to trust the goverment, then why don't you believe the pamphlet that the city publishes that tells everyone that the water is slightly contaminated. Does it violate standards set by the US government? No, Davis water doesn't; however, there was a high level of bacteria that was found in 2005 (the last year published). In really bold letters it says '''"Adverse Health Effects"''' and then lists the trace amounts that are present in Davis water. Therefore, Davis water has trace amounts of carcinogens in it. A degree in chemistry or toxicology is not necessary, but helpful (if one wants to know why these particular chemicals are tested for). Unfortunately, research that links carcinogens and cancer are rarely definitive because of the interactions of an individual's predisposition for the disease and the environment of the individual. Some people try to lessen their contact with carcinogens because they have a predisposition to the disease or as a general precautionary measure. And, yes, of course I know sunlight is a carcinogen in high doses, but it's also a source for vitamin D. Should people run out and spend hours and hours in the sun without some protection for the vitamin D? Probably not. But, if they choose to, I don't particularly care. I care that people understand what information is around them. And, yes, I do have a PhD.<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-01-23 04:42:31GreggAlexanderComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 64: </td> <td> Line 64: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-01-23 03:42:31'' [[nbsp]] Drinking too much water, in events such as hazing or odd radio station contests, can be fatal. Google "water intoxication" for details. --["GreggAlexander"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-01-22 23:20:55NickSchmalenbergermoved comments from other page <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 57: </td> <td> Line 57: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + Moved from ["Car-Free In Davis"]:<br> + <br> + ''2007-01-15 22:35:35'' [[nbsp]] What is the issue with water? I know a lot of people in Davis get bottled water, but I'm not sure why somebody on a bicycle would bother. --["NickSchmalenberger"]<br> + <br> + ''2007-01-20 11:17:56'' [[nbsp]] Lots of good info! Thanks! And, for the record, Davis water is slightly toxic. If you read the [http://cityofdavis.org/pw/water/WaterQuality.cfm report] the city sends out to the residents, the water does test positive for carcinogens, although the findings are below levels considered dangerous to one's health according to the government group doing the testing. Thus, buying un-toxic water is more a necessity than a trend in Davis whether you have a car or not. --["ImNotABear"]<br> + More people probably drown than get cancer from bad water, so I don't think it is particularly dangerous. Did you know that sunlight is a carcinogen? Do you have a degree in environmental toxicology? Because I don't and I have other things to do which is why I am willing to take the government's word on this. --["NickSchmalenberger"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2007-01-21 23:35:53NickSchmalenbergerminor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> City ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many ["Davis"] residents. Another option<span>&nbsp;for drinking water</span> is to buy water from one of the [#TOC options] listed near the bottom of this page.<span>&nbsp;Before heading out the door, be aware that your options may include spring water or drinking water.</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> City ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many ["Davis"] residents<span>&nbsp;for drinking</span>. Another option is to buy water from one of the [#TOC options] listed near the bottom of this page. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 3: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *'''Spring water''' is bottled directly from mountain springs, or wherever the company says it comes from, and <span>will</span> be high in mineral content -- high mineral content means more flavor. Since this is essentially why you may not want to drink the local tap water, you may have to do a taste test to determine which spring suits you best.<br> <span>-</span> * What <span>most</span> people refer to as '''Drinking water''' is essentially filtered water; it's usually just some municipal water (though not necessarily from Davis) that has been run through a filtering process. The source of filtered drinking water can vary, as can the process by which the water is filtered. If you are particular about your water, you would do well to do a bit of research to find out how the water the drinking water you purchase is treated. </td> <td> <span>+</span> *'''Spring water''' is bottled directly from mountain springs, or wherever the company says it comes from, and <span>may</span> be high in mineral content -- high mineral content means more flavor. Since this is essentially why you may not want to drink the local tap water, you may have to do a taste test to determine which spring suits you best.<br> <span>+</span> * What <span>some</span> people refer to as '''Drinking water''' is essentially filtered water; it's usually just some municipal water (though not necessarily from Davis) that has been run through a filtering process. The source of filtered drinking water can vary, as can the process by which the water is filtered. If you are particular about your water, you would do well to do a bit of research to find out how the water the drinking water you purchase is treated. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-11-27 14:31:03AlphaDogComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 55: </td> <td> Line 55: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2006-11-27 13:31:03'' [[nbsp]] This page is titled "Drinking Water." Do water softening systems really belong here, or should this page be expanded beyond drinking water?? Another thought might be to simply transfer the information about water softeners to the ["Tap Water"] page or combine the whole lot into a big Water page. Thoughts? --["AlphaDog"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-11-27 14:10:37RalphFinch <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 28: </td> <td> Line 28: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Whole-house water softeners (using the standard mineral tank with polystyrene beads, also known as resin or zeolite) and under-sink filters for drinking water (activated carbon and reverse-osmosis). [http://ylwbook.iaf.net/ypbook.php?ReportType=44&amp;aid=466&amp;sid=&amp;refer=&amp;adword=&amp;qbn=blue+fountain+water&amp;qbc=&amp;qc=davis&amp;qs=ca&amp;sid=96 Blue Fountain Water] is a local, though somewhat pricey, outfit that sells softeners and filters. Their water softener is completely mechanical and uses on-demand backflush timing instead of fixed timing so the salt usage is based on actual, not average, water use.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-11-27 09:58:34JabberWokkyClarification for the logically minded. :) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *'''Drinking water''' is essentially filtered water; it's usually just some municipal water (though not necessarily from Davis) that has been run through a filtering process. The source of filtered drinking water can vary, as can the process by which the water is filtered. If you are particular about your water, you would do well to do a bit of research to find out how the water the drinking water you purchase is treated. </td> <td> <span>+</span> *<span>&nbsp;What most people refer to as </span>'''Drinking water''' is essentially filtered water; it's usually just some municipal water (though not necessarily from Davis) that has been run through a filtering process. The source of filtered drinking water can vary, as can the process by which the water is filtered. If you are particular about your water, you would do well to do a bit of research to find out how the water the drinking water you purchase is treated. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- == Drinking Water in Bulk ==</span> </td> <td> <span>+ == Bulk Retail Purchase ==</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-11-27 09:56:46JabberWokkyRevert to version 18 (It can, thus revealing that language is not logical.). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *'''Drinking water''' is essentially filtered water; it's usually just some municipal water (though not necessarily from Davis) that has been run through a filtering process. The source of filtered drinking water can vary, as can the process by which the water is filtered. If you are particular about your water, you would do well to do a bit of research to find out how the water the drinking water you purchase is treated.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 10: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> == <span>Comme</span>r<span>c</span>i<span>ally F</span>i<span>ltered Mu</span>n<span>icipal</span> Water in Bulk == </td> <td> <span>+</span> == <span>D</span>ri<span>nk</span>in<span>g</span> Water in Bulk == </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-11-27 08:58:40NickSchmalenbergerdrinking water cannot be a subset of itself <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- *'''Drinking water''' is essentially filtered water; it's usually just some municipal water (though not necessarily from Davis) that has been run through a filtering process. The source of filtered drinking water can vary, as can the process by which the water is filtered. If you are particular about your water, you would do well to do a bit of research to find out how the water the drinking water you purchase is treated.</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 10: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> == <span>D</span>rin<span>k</span>i<span>ng</span> Water in Bulk == </td> <td> <span>+</span> == <span>Comme</span>r<span>c</span>i<span>ally Filtered Mu</span>ni<span>cipal</span> Water in Bulk == </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 30: </td> <td> Line 29: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Home delivery of one-, three-, and five-gallon containers is widely available within Davis from the following vendors. Typically, to set up service, you need to determine your weekly water needs and pay a deposit on bottles which are replaced weekly or biweekly by your carrier. Weekly needs can be adjusted as needs vary, and you only pay for empties that are replaced the following week. Billing typically occurs monthly. When you close out your service and return the empties, you'll get your bottle deposit back. Additional services are available such as water dispenser rental, chiller rental (including a hot/cold option), paper cups, and even small bottles of drinking water.<span>&nbsp;</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> Home delivery of one-, three-, and five-gallon containers is widely available within Davis from the following vendors. Typically, to set up service, you need to determine your weekly water needs and pay a deposit on bottles which are replaced weekly or biweekly by your carrier. Weekly needs can be adjusted as needs vary, and you only pay for empties that are replaced the following week. Billing typically occurs monthly. When you close out your service and return the empties, you'll get your bottle deposit back. Additional services are available such as water dispenser rental, chiller rental (including a hot/cold option), paper cups, and even small bottles of drinking water. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 36: </td> <td> Line 35: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-03-04 16:44:04AndrewChenMachines take dollar bills <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 14: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * ["Albertsons"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store<span>; must pay with coins at machine</span>) </td> <td> <span>+</span> * ["Albertsons"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store) </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-03-04 16:05:04PhilipNeustromcleaned up comments <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 42: </td> <td> Line 42: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2005-06-12 22:47:20'' [[nbsp]] cahonies must be some spelling of "cancer" that i was not previously aware of --["ArlenAbraham"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2005-07-03 11:31:00'' [[nbsp]] I agree with Rob! Davis water is great stuff! --["NickSchmalenberger"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2005-07-03 21:48:55'' [[nbsp]] I don't know if Hemmingway was facing quite the same industrial contaminants. The food science team at ["Hunan"] determined that only by placing a whole lemon, sliced in two into a pitcher of water can the davis water harshness be disguised. --["JaimeRaba"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2005-11-19 14:55:52'' [[nbsp]] Thanks Jaime, I'm adding a dozen of lemons to my weekly shopping list. --["CristinaPerdomo"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ I agree! Davis water is great stuff! --["NickSchmalenberger"]<br> + <br> + cahonies must be some spelling of "cancer" that i was not previously aware of --["ArlenAbraham"]<br> + <br> + I don't know if Hemmingway was facing quite the same industrial contaminants. The food science team at ["Hunan"] determined that only by placing a whole lemon, sliced in two into a pitcher of water can the davis water harshness be disguised. --["JaimeRaba"]<br> + I'm adding a dozen of lemons to my weekly shopping list. --["CristinaPerdomo"]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 54: </td> <td> Line 52: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- WTF, "the same people"? How do you know? I recommend you read Desert Solitaire by Edward Abbey. -["NickSchmalenberger"]<br> - bite me. --["AlphaDog"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-02-21 18:20:15TusharRawatComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 56: </td> <td> Line 56: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2006-02-21 18:20:15'' [[nbsp]] Super-purified water (devoid of minerals of any sort) can drain the body of minerals and should only be used to chemical experiments and not for drinking. --["TusharRawat"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-02-21 16:47:36AlphaDog <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 55: </td> <td> Line 55: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ bite me. --["AlphaDog"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-02-21 16:40:54NickSchmalenberger <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 54: </td> <td> Line 54: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ WTF, "the same people"? How do you know? I recommend you read Desert Solitaire by Edward Abbey. -["NickSchmalenberger"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2006-02-21 16:35:37AlphaDogComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 52: </td> <td> Line 52: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2006-02-21 16:35:37'' [[nbsp]] Sadly, I've seen those stupid plastic water bottles floating and tumbling everywhere from the Colorado to the Coruh River, tumbling in Arches, and littering the streets of Asia and Europe. I find it pretty disgusting that the same people who would stand high and mighty when it comes to cars, WalMart, IKEA and the like would buy obscene volumes of bottled water in a country that offers potable water virtually everywhere. At least in second and third world countries, bottled water can be justified, but even then you purchase larger bottles or just boil your water! --["AlphaDog"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-11-19 23:07:51NickSchmalenbergeradded link to map of municipal wells <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *'''Municipal water''', also known as ["tap water"], is ["Drinking Water" drinking water] that comes directly from the water main<span>. It ma</span>y be drunk from hose or tap, with hose possibly giving a better taste. Drinkers of water in Davis are lucky to have the privilege of drinking water with lots of nice minerals like calcium. </td> <td> <span>+</span> *'''Municipal water''', also known as ["tap water"], is ["Drinking Water" drinking water] that comes directly from the water main<span>, where it comes from [http://www.ci.davis.ca.us/pw/water/WellLocations.cfm wells] actuall</span>y <span>''in'' ["Davis"]. This is better for the environment than bottled or filtered water because it does not require material to be shipped into Davis from far away. Municipal water may </span>be drunk from hose or tap, with hose possibly giving a better taste. Drinkers of water in Davis are lucky to have the privilege of drinking water with lots of nice minerals like calcium. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-11-19 23:00:25NickSchmalenbergerMmm! Municipal mineral water! <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *'''Municipal water''', also known as ["tap water"], is ["Drinking Water" drinking water] that comes directly from the water main. It may be drunk from hose or tap, with hose possibly giving a better taste. Drinkers of water in Davis are lucky to have the privilege of drinking water with lots of nice minerals like calcium.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-11-19 22:40:10SteveDavisonComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 49: </td> <td> Line 49: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2005-11-19 22:40:10'' [[nbsp]] Tap water with pesticides or plasticizer leached from plastic bottles, which shall I have today? --["SteveDavison"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-11-19 14:55:52CristinaPerdomoComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 47: </td> <td> Line 47: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2005-11-19 14:55:52'' [[nbsp]] Thanks Jaime, I'm adding a dozen of lemons to my weekly shopping list. --["CristinaPerdomo"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-08-14 11:08:29EdwinSaadaremoving 2 wanted pages <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 31: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * [<span>"</span>Arrowhead<span>&nbsp;Water"</span>] - (owned by Perrier, which is in turn owned by Nestle)<br> <span>-</span> * ["Alhambra Water"] - bought out [<span>"Sierra </span>Spring<span>s Water"</span>] in 2005 (owned by McCesson Water). </td> <td> <span>+</span> * [<span>wiki:WikiPedia:</span>Arrowhead<span>_Water Arrowhead Water</span>] - (owned by Perrier, which is in turn owned by Nestle)<br> <span>+</span> * ["Alhambra Water"] - bought out [<span>wiki:WikiPedia:Sierra_</span>Spring<span>_Water Sierra Spring Water</span>] in 2005 (owned by McCesson Water). </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-07-03 22:57:08AlphaDogSomebody fire that *!@%&* copy editor! <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *'''De<span>-</span>ionized water''' isn't typically readily available to the average consumer and requires a fairly expensive process. It is most often used in labs to ensure that chemistry results aren't skewed by dissolved impurities in modern water supplies: ions such as calcium, sodium, chlorides, etc. ''Y'all shoulda lernt this in high school chem!'' Deionization removes ions from water via ion exchange, much like those things in clubs that make smoke stick to your clothing. Safeway sells purified water under its own label by the gallon, which is indicated as having been either deionized or filtered by reverse osmosis. </td> <td> <span>+</span> *'''Deionized water''' isn't typically readily available to the average consumer and requires a fairly expensive process. It is most often used in labs to ensure that chemistry results aren't skewed by dissolved impurities in modern water supplies: ions such as calcium, sodium, chlorides, etc. ''Y'all shoulda lernt this in high school chem!'' Deionization removes ions from water via ion exchange, much like those things in clubs that make smoke stick to your clothing. Safeway sells purified water under its own label by the gallon, which is indicated as having been either deionized or filtered by reverse osmosis. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-07-03 22:55:11AlphaDogcorrection re deionized water, +some rev. osmosis bits <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *'''Distilled water''' may also be found within ["supermarkets &amp; grocery stores"], but this is not typically sold as "drinking water," and is intended for use in appliances, such as irons. Distilled water is actually boiled in a still and the condensate collected and bottled -- this process removes both ionic and non-ionic organic contaminants. Mineral deposits left by drinking waters can damage clothing, affect appliance performance, or otherwise screw up the results of your experiment.<br> -<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;*'''</span>Deioniz<span>ed water''' isn't readily a</span>v<span>ailable to the a</span>v<span>erage consumer and requires a fairly</span> ex<span>pensi</span>v<span>e process -- it would probably cost about $30/gallon</span>.<span>&nbsp;It is typically used in labs to ensure that chemistry results aren't skewed by dissolved impurities in modern water supplies: ions such as calcium, sodium, chlorides, etc. ''Y'all shoulda lernt this in high school chem!'' Deionization removes ions from water via ion exchange, much like those things in clubs that make smoke stick to your clothing. </span><br> <span>-</span> *'''Purified water''' may also be found in your supermarket aisle, and this water has been treated to remove both minerals and smaller particles. ["Hiking and Backpacking" Hikers] are familiar with this difference, because water purifiers remove particles smaller than a micron, while microfilters typically filter down to about 1 micron -- an ''absolute'' 1 micron filter is sufficient to eliminate cryptosporidium and giardia cysts, but not small enough to get rid of bacteria and viruses. Most home systems don't filter down to this level and won't produce <span>"purified"</span> water. Not so much a problem unless you think livestock may have been using your water source, but something to keep in mind when purchasing a filtration system... it may not be filtering everything you think! And ideally, we want a little bit of flavor in our water, so it's not necessarily desirable to filter out everything -- "potable water" isn't necessarily "purified water." </td> <td> <span>+</span> *'''Distilled water''' may also be found within ["supermarkets &amp; grocery stores"], but this is not typically sold as "drinking water," and is intended for use in appliances, such as irons. Distilled water is actually boiled in a still and the condensate collected and bottled -- this process removes both ionic and non-ionic organic contaminants<span>&nbsp;including minerals</span>. Mineral deposits left by drinking waters can damage clothing, affect appliance performance, or otherwise screw up the results of your experiment.<br> <span>+ *'''De</span>-<span>ionized water''' isn't typically readily available to the average consumer and requires a fairly expensive process. It is most often used in labs to ensure that chemistry results aren't skewed by dissolved impurities in modern water supplies: ions such as calcium, sodium, chlorides, etc. ''Y'all shoulda lernt this in high school chem!'' </span>Deioniz<span>ation remo</span>v<span>es ions from water </span>v<span>ia ion</span> ex<span>change, much like those things in clubs that make smoke stick to your clothing. Safeway sells purified water under its own label by the gallon, which is indicated as ha</span>v<span>ing been either deionized or filtered by reverse osmosis</span>.<br> <span>+</span> *'''Purified water''' may also be found in your supermarket aisle, and this water has been treated to remove both minerals and smaller particles. ["Hiking and Backpacking" Hikers] are familiar with this difference, because water purifiers remove particles smaller than a micron, while microfilters typically filter down to about 1 micron -- an ''absolute'' 1 micron filter is sufficient to eliminate cryptosporidium and giardia cysts, but not small enough to get rid of bacteria and viruses. <span>Water may be treated by reverse osmosis or chemically, e.g. addition of iodine, to remove contaminants to this level. </span>Most home systems don't filter down to this level and won't produce <span>purified</span> water. Not so much a problem unless you think livestock may have been using your water source, but something to keep in mind when purchasing a filtration system... it may not be filtering everything you think! And ideally, we want a little bit of flavor in our water, so it's not necessarily desirable to filter out everything -- "potable water" isn't necessarily "purified water." </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> This type of system allows you to fill your own container from a filtration system hooked up to the city water supply. Keep in mind, that outdoor vending machines are subject to fine dust and dirt particles, especially if there's no door protecting the spigot. To determine the degree of filtration provided by the system, you'll need to ask questions and do some research. </td> <td> <span>+</span> This type of system allows you to fill your own container from a filtration system hooked up to the city water supply. Keep in mind, that outdoor vending machines are subject to fine dust and dirt particles, especially if there's no door protecting the spigot. <span>You should also be aware that others may be touching the spigot or using unclean containers that may contaminate the spigot (I've seen lipstick stains from coworkers' water bottles on our office cooler... yuck!). </span>To determine the degree of filtration provided by the system, you'll need to ask questions and do some research. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 31: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Arrowhead - (owned by Perrier, which is in turn owned by Nestle)<br> <span>-</span> * Alhambra - bought out Sierra Springs in 2005 (owned by McCesson Water). </td> <td> <span>+</span> * <span>["</span>Arrowhead<span>&nbsp;Water"]</span> - (owned by Perrier, which is in turn owned by Nestle)<br> <span>+</span> * <span>["</span>Alhambra<span>&nbsp;Water"]</span> - bought out <span>["</span>Sierra Springs<span>&nbsp;Water"]</span> in 2005 (owned by McCesson Water). </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-07-03 21:48:55JaimeRabaComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 45: </td> <td> Line 45: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2005-07-03 21:48:55'' [[nbsp]] I don't know if Hemmingway was facing quite the same industrial contaminants. The food science team at ["Hunan"] determined that only by placing a whole lemon, sliced in two into a pitcher of water can the davis water harshness be disguised. --["JaimeRaba"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-07-03 20:00:56AlphaDogWhere's my copy editor??!? <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> City ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many ["Davis"] residents. Another option for drinking water is to buy water from <span>from one of the options</span> listed <span>below</span>. Before heading out the door, be aware that your options may include spring water or drinking water. </td> <td> <span>+</span> City ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many ["Davis"] residents. Another option for drinking water is to buy water from <span>one of the [#TOC options]</span> listed <span>near the bottom of this page</span>. Before heading out the door, be aware that your options may include spring water or drinking water. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 8: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [[TableOfContents]] </td> <td> <span>+</span> <span>[[Anchor(TOC)]]</span>[[TableOfContents]] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-07-03 19:56:12AlphaDog+clarified types of water available & filtration v. purification <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- City ["Tap Water"] is not acceptable to many ["Davis"] residents. One option for purer drinking water is to buy ionized water from ["Supermarkets"] for around 30 cents a gallon.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ City ["tap water"] is not acceptable to many ["Davis"] residents. Another option for drinking water is to buy water from from one of the options listed below. Before heading out the door, be aware that your options may include spring water or drinking water.<br> + *'''Spring water''' is bottled directly from mountain springs, or wherever the company says it comes from, and will be high in mineral content -- high mineral content means more flavor. Since this is essentially why you may not want to drink the local tap water, you may have to do a taste test to determine which spring suits you best.<br> + *'''Drinking water''' is essentially filtered water; it's usually just some municipal water (though not necessarily from Davis) that has been run through a filtering process. The source of filtered drinking water can vary, as can the process by which the water is filtered. If you are particular about your water, you would do well to do a bit of research to find out how the water the drinking water you purchase is treated.<br> + *'''Distilled water''' may also be found within ["supermarkets &amp; grocery stores"], but this is not typically sold as "drinking water," and is intended for use in appliances, such as irons. Distilled water is actually boiled in a still and the condensate collected and bottled -- this process removes both ionic and non-ionic organic contaminants. Mineral deposits left by drinking waters can damage clothing, affect appliance performance, or otherwise screw up the results of your experiment.<br> + *'''Deionized water''' isn't readily available to the average consumer and requires a fairly expensive process -- it would probably cost about $30/gallon. It is typically used in labs to ensure that chemistry results aren't skewed by dissolved impurities in modern water supplies: ions such as calcium, sodium, chlorides, etc. ''Y'all shoulda lernt this in high school chem!'' Deionization removes ions from water via ion exchange, much like those things in clubs that make smoke stick to your clothing. <br> + *'''Purified water''' may also be found in your supermarket aisle, and this water has been treated to remove both minerals and smaller particles. ["Hiking and Backpacking" Hikers] are familiar with this difference, because water purifiers remove particles smaller than a micron, while microfilters typically filter down to about 1 micron -- an ''absolute'' 1 micron filter is sufficient to eliminate cryptosporidium and giardia cysts, but not small enough to get rid of bacteria and viruses. Most home systems don't filter down to this level and won't produce "purified" water. Not so much a problem unless you think livestock may have been using your water source, but something to keep in mind when purchasing a filtration system... it may not be filtering everything you think! And ideally, we want a little bit of flavor in our water, so it's not necessarily desirable to filter out everything -- "potable water" isn't necessarily "purified water."</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- == Purified Water in Bulk ==</span> </td> <td> <span>+ [[TableOfContents]]<br> + <br> + == Drinking Water in Bulk ==<br> + This type of system allows you to fill your own container from a filtration system hooked up to the city water supply. Keep in mind, that outdoor vending machines are subject to fine dust and dirt particles, especially if there's no door protecting the spigot. To determine the degree of filtration provided by the system, you'll need to ask questions and do some research.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ These type of systems filter to varying degrees, so do some reading online before committing to a specific system.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 25: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Brita filter<br> + * PUR tap filter</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 29: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- For five gallon containers delivered to your home:</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Home delivery of one-, three-, and five-gallon containers is widely available within Davis from the following vendors. Typically, to set up service, you need to determine your weekly water needs and pay a deposit on bottles which are replaced weekly or biweekly by your carrier. Weekly needs can be adjusted as needs vary, and you only pay for empties that are replaced the following week. Billing typically occurs monthly. When you close out your service and return the empties, you'll get your bottle deposit back. Additional services are available such as water dispenser rental, chiller rental (including a hot/cold option), paper cups, and even small bottles of drinking water. <br> + </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 24: </td> <td> Line 36: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Bottled water can be found almost everywhere. Be sure to ["recycle"] the containers! </td> <td> <span>+</span> Bottled<span>&nbsp;drinking</span> water can be found almost everywhere. Be sure to ["recycle"] the containers! </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-07-03 18:34:41BrentLaabsdelivered water <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ == Home Delivery ==<br> + For five gallon containers delivered to your home:<br> + * Arrowhead - (owned by Perrier, which is in turn owned by Nestle)<br> + * Alhambra - bought out Sierra Springs in 2005 (owned by McCesson Water).<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Drinking Waterhttp://daviswiki.org/Drinking_Water2005-07-03 13:08:41AlphaDogRenamed from Pure Drinking Water (Pure is ambiguous... drinking water includes "spring water", which isn't "pure") <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Drinking Water<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ City ["Tap Water"] is not acceptable to many ["Davis"] residents. One option for purer drinking water is to buy ionized water from ["Supermarkets"] for around 30 cents a gallon.<br> + <br> + == Purified Water in Bulk ==<br> + <br> + * ["Albertsons"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store; must pay with coins at machine)<br> + * ["Davis Food Co-Op"] -- $0.32/gallon (machines in back of Bulk Department)<br> + * ["H2O to Go"] -- $0.48/gallon, reverse osmosis, charcol filter and UV light<br> + * ["Longs"] -- $0.30/gallon (vending machines in front of store)<br> + * ["Nugget"]<br> + * ["Safeway"] -- $0.29/gallon with Safeway card. (vending machines inside, by the registers in ["The Marketplace"] store, and by the produce in the ["South Davis"] store.)<br> + <br> + == Home Purification Systems ==<br> + <br> + * ["ACE Hardware"]<br> + * ["Target"] -- Faucet filters and counter-top purifiers usually cost about $30 here, with replacement filters about $15 a pop. However, they last pretty long, and you never have to worry about running out of potable water.<br> + <br> + == Bottled Water ==<br> + <br> + Bottled water can be found almost everywhere. Be sure to ["recycle"] the containers!<br> + <br> + [[Comments]]<br> + <br> + Bottled water is for the faint of heart or the tourists traveling in third world countries. You think [wiki:WikiPedia:Ernest_Hemingway Ernest Hemingway] drank bottled water? Get some cahonies and gulp it down right from the tap. --["RobRoy"]<br> + ------<br> + ''2005-06-12 22:47:20'' [[nbsp]] cahonies must be some spelling of "cancer" that i was not previously aware of --["ArlenAbraham"]<br> + ------<br> + ''2005-07-03 11:31:00'' [[nbsp]] I agree with Rob! Davis water is great stuff! --["NickSchmalenberger"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>