A place for experimenting with the "Explore" sidebar on the front page.
My original clustering of topics by broad subject is apparently falling apart on the front page. While in my original revamp there were a few things that were more "gag" pages (like cows, hot sauce, meat market), there's stuff that should be sub-topic-of-a-subtopic stuff popping up on the main explore page: barber shops, nimby, ... maybe there should be a page that organizes davis philosophical-political issues, a page for services (like barber shops), and a page for religion (so you can put places of worship, religions, whatever),.. just a thought. Maybe we should have an organization party so we can bring more quality content closer to the top level... some things are not as well placed as they should be. -jr
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It needs rennovation. Outgoing Links should be taken into account," and just because something is important doesn't mean it needs to be in Explore. We should try to categorize things?
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Okay: We need to stop throwing random pages into Explore, really, please. please. again, please. I know your page is really important. But if you just made it, and if it contains less than, say, 20 links, then please don't add it to explore. We need to work together and refactor explore so that it's actually useful to people. Right now I think it's just a scattered group of a ton of pages. Some are good, some are bad (link-wise, is what I mean). I understand that sometimes it's hard to find a place for a page to be linked from, but we need to start thinking before we throw things there. We should strive to re-organized Explore based on items from Site Organization. Important pages (not based on content or our personal opinon of important) ought to go into explore, and it shouldn't have 80+ links — that's just useless (especially because of the thin+long layout of the explore page as it sits on the Front Page). Discuss any organizational ideas on this page. Users/JamieRaba did a really good job of coming up with Explore many months ago, but the site has outgrown his "hey look, cool stuff" approach? —PhilipNeustrom
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My thoughts exactly. When a site exists at the scale that DavisWiki does, I think you can't put all the pages up. And even pages that have 5 links can just be a bit circular, in that they refer all to each other. I think there is ONE way you could have a well-structured model that also emphasizes cool stuff. Check out the OLD yahoo layout:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970330043815/http://www11.yahoo.com/ .. Where the MAJOR categories are the focal structure, but then there are selected sub-categories listed. That can work pretty well. -jr
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I am observeing that most of the edits are lately to businesses/restaurants, political pages, student groups, and personal pages. And if you look at the crown jewels of this site, they focus around those ideas. But edits don't matter as much as page usage. Do you have any usage stats, phil? -jr
People Events Board Friends Urging Campus Kindness Sword and Sandals Senate Candidates Budget Hearing Scandal Student Focus Housing Guide Davis Map Senate Apartments ASUCD Open Government Frog Signs Good Ideas For DatesAnd here is a list of the most common search keywords(external search engines)
davis wiki apartments ca daviswiki davis411 bistro california ciocolat phleger naum crepeville apartment uc restaurants allegre pizza thai pepperwood restaurant temescalFinally, here is a list of the most common(case-insensitive) search queries for the Davis Wiki search bar:
178 Senate
164 FUCK
113 Wanted
108 Rob Roy
102 Test
86 Wanted Pages
77 ASUCD
70 apartments
59 housing
58 California Aggie
54 Ben
53 LEAD
53 Crepeville
52 Restaurants
50 Alcohol
48 KDVS
46 SUshi
46 STUDENT FOCUS
46 Katy Tang
46 GASC
45 User
43 Gena Rinaldi
43 Cafe Roma
42 TO DO
42 RANDOM
42 Bike
41 Ben Duax
41 Aggie
That should give a fairly good idea of what people look for on the site.
Step 1
Lets find the most important (structually) pages. Then lets organized them. Let's make sure all pages in the current Explore have links from at least 5 other pages. (Click on the page's title to do a search for the title string)
Ken, James — I put Spiritual Organizations inside of Organizations instead of Explore. If I were looking for a religious place I would look at Organizations? I think we might need a massive rehaul of Explore come the creation of UC Davis, Davis and a few more general pages. My concern is that while a catalog of churches is useful, there's a lot w/o pages right now and the few that do have very little outgoing links. I think the page ought to be in Explore in a bit, but maybe not right now. - PhilipNeustrom
Can we add Hotels to this? — KenBloom
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I think the wiki should strive to be the best resource for folks in davis, not nec. a tourism thing. Maybe we can collect tourist/visiting things into a page and throw it on explore. Besides, that Hotels page has only one new outgoing link right now.
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Can you think of anything else tourist-related (besides Hotels)? And the Hotels page will presumably get edited and filled in with links. Part of the reason for this page is to make people notice. (And of course I'll add some infos) — KenBloom
Previous Version
Events Board and Regular Events
City of Davis (Map)
WiFi Hot Spots, Public Internet Terminals, Linux Users
Attempt #3
questions/concerns: I think LSA, GSA should be on Explore, but as of now they don't link to much. They're both fantastic or soon to be fantastic, but I think they should link to a great deal of pages (if possible), because Explore is supposed to be a starting point. I'd help out but I don't know anything about either organization :) Even links to sort of silly things would be good, because it's likely that a law student or a graduate student would first click on GSA or LSA, seeing it there. - PhilipNeustrom
Events Board and Regular Events
City of Davis (Map)
WiFi Hot Spots, Public Internet Terminals, Linux Users
Attempt #2
IN PROGRESS (Any ideas?)
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Campus (click for more)
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Student Organizations, Underground Societies
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Shopping, Living Cheaply, Discounts and Freebies,
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Internet
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Useful sites?: DavisCoeds (or maybe put this inside of "Internet"?)
I think that this is a good start, but there seems to be the problem of wanting to just throw in a page that's good just because it's good — not because it's really in the right spot. I'd say our reorganization of Explore needs to wait for probably 50 or so more pages in the wiki. Right now, I'm going to spend my time instead making sure all our pages are linked up well and organized in a general->less general->specific->more specific manner. I.E. we have Frat Parties, free beer, but no Parties and Drinking pages. Just my 0.02 - PhilipNeustrom
I totally agree. But, I also think that people who would love the site if they clicked on the right pages might give up on the site when it seems completely geared towards each section of town. I actually didn't necessarily choose the BEST pages to put in there, but just ones that linked to lots of other ones, or were at least exciting. I know they're sometimes "sub-classes", but I figure as far as utility goes, I think it would get people more excited about the site. Sometimes, I think the less exploratory indivual gives up one daviswiki when it just seems like another Davis411, which perhaps the "breakdown by city area" might suggest to the unitiated. The page of the day does a lot to despell that notion, but the explore setup does not at all reflect where the dominant amount of content is. Is there any way to see what the most content-heavy pages are right now, just out of curiosity? - jr
Jaime, we took your general layout from attempt #2, beefed it up a touch, and moved things around so as to focus on more interesting pages first. Thanks a ton for your work and suggestions, it made it so much easier. - MikeIvanov
Attempt #1
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Davis Life
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Night Time, Dating, and Music Scene
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Davis Places
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Restaurants, Cafes, and Bars
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Campus (click for more)
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Davis People
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Davis Things
Purging of Version dated 5/23/05
City of Davis (Map)
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Downtown, Central, North, East, South Davis, Outskirts, Greenbelts
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Apartments, Cooperative Housing, Housing Guide, and Residences
9/30/05 Version
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Social Structures, Organizations, Davis Politics, Media, Member Pages
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Navigating Davis, Davis Map, Downtown, Central, North, East, South, West, Outskirts, Parks, Greenbelts
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Shopping Centers, Hair Salons and Barber Shops, Clothing Stores, Thrift Stores, Living Cheaply, Discounts and Freebies, Classified Ads
Anyone else interested in fixing Explore? IMO, it is way too bloated. Stuff like Cows, KDVS, and Photography, while interesting, aren't things people really need to see on the front page. — AndrewChen
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Art, Entertainment, Night Time, Outdoor Activities, ...
Is Yuba really "nearby"? I mean, it's quite a bit farther than the others listed.
Feel free to change/reorganize the categories.


