Fall 2007 ASUCD Election

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  1. Winners
  2. Senate Candidates
  3. Rankings recieved
  4. Calendar
  5. Endorsements
  6. Election History
  7. Controversies
    1. GO Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part I
    2. GO Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part II
    3. GO Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part III
    4. LEAD Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part I
    5. LEAD Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part II
    6. LEAD Candidate Spotted Not Very Close To Polling Station
    7. Trademark lawsuit
    8. Hate Speech in the Dorms
    9. Further Controversies
  8. Media Coverage
  9. Links
  10. Issues
    1. Execution of Past Platforms
    2. Asian American Representation
    3. Acclaim for Past Senators
    4. Advice for New Senatorial Candidates
    5. Cal Aggie Camp Funding

The Fall 2007 ASUCD Election for undergraduates at UC Davis was held on November 14 and 15, 2007. Various candidates were running under Slates new and old.

Each candidate for ASUCD Office signs a contract stating that "I concur that I am a registered student in good academic standing based on my cumulative GPA and that I am not on on Academic Probation."...Non-registered students and those not in good academic standing are ineligible for the offices of ASUCD Senator, according to the ASUCD Constitution and ASUCD Government Codes.

Winners

Senate Candidates

LEAD GO Independent
* Lula Ahmed-Falol * Rebecca Lovell * Joe Chatham
* Johnathen Duran * Erika Perez * Edward Baraona
* Erin Harrington * Andrew Kim
* Chad Roberts * Jesse Rosales
* Lauren Thomas * John Dreyer
* Tracey Zeng

Rankings recieved

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Andrew Kim 316 299 239 203 218 135 101 102 142 141 139 132 68
Rebecca Lovell 430 336 334 314 291 127 128 131 111 88 89 60 71
Chad Roberts 631 533 365 300 246 224 111 76 67 73 51 46 51
Erika Perez 215 416 312 322 221 119 136 122 158 130 128 78 39
Erin Harrington 269 238 295 315 306 289 142 122 86 92 91 67 42
Jesse Rosales 413 317 233 188 173 105 93 90 99 135 124 194 138
Joe Chatham 505 292 260 159 138 196 225 141 85 64 56 80 43
John Dreyer 303 226 232 223 222 121 114 104 130 130 148 152 84
Johnathen Duran 138 210 260 229 280 335 142 83 105 111 95 111 79
Lauren Thomas 306 359 363 394 348 295 151 109 87 47 62 39 27
Lula Ahmed-Falol 746 468 475 318 248 182 93 81 69 47 56 39 34
Tracey Zeng 307 357 332 330 293 283 118 97 70 84 76 55 39
Edward Baraona 13 34 31 31 41 58 130 166 82 94 89 134 446
Totals 4592 4085 3731 3326 3025 2469 1684 1424 1291 1236 1204 1187 1161

Calendar

Endorsements

Election History

Solidarity started by Steve Ostrowski and Wenche Molenaar attempted to form a slate, but could not find the necessary two candidates to be officially a slate under ASUCD election law.

At the Mandatory Candidates Meeting, the Elections Committee and ASUCD Senator Carrillo made it very clear that campaigning in the dorms is unacceptable behavior. Joseph Bleckman hopes this will prevent any repeats of incidents such as LEAD chalking "vote LEAD" outside of the Segundo DC, as occurred in the last winter election. Also, many people, both ASUCD officials and students, hoped that it would prevent candidates and their supporters from going door-to-door in the dormitories, as has been done by Student Focus in the past (Fall 2004 and Fall 2006), and GO this year....apparently not.

On Wednesday, November 14th, 2007, GO held a "GO Night at The Grad", charging $5 to get in. This was not listed on the exp. forms and there were no sanctions.

Lula Ahmed-Falol received more #1 votes, 746, than any candidate in the history of Choice Voting until the Winter 2011 ASUCD Election, and was at the time only the second candidate to ever be elected in the first round, the other being Rob Roy and later Yena Bae. Chad Roberts also received a phenomenal amount of #1 votes, 641, which would have also been the most votes ever, except for Lula.

This election most likely set a record for voter turnout in a fall election, with 4500+ votes cast.

Controversies

GO Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part I

The California Aggie [WWW]reported on September 28, 2007 that GO members were asked to leave the student dorms because they were soliciting their slate to freshmen. This was in violation of ASUCD Bylaw 410B, which prohibits such campaigning. One of the GO members involved, Eric Friedman, claimed to just be helping freshmen move in, and had a right to be in the dorms. According to the GO officials, they were not doing any form of solicitation, but rather trying to help out freshmen and their families. According to the Tercero Area Service Desk employees who were observing them, they were soliciting. According to some LEAD friends and affiliates, a reliable source inside GO said the GO senators had planned on campaigning while using ASUCD promotion and "helping out" as a cover. An [WWW]editoral in the Aggie appeared a few days after the incident.

GO Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part II

On November 2, 2007 Jack Zwald, a Freshman student and an intern of LEAD senator Andrew Peake, was approached by a representative of the John Dreyer campaign and was asked to sign up for a list serve in the dormitories. Jack informed the campaign representative, as he had heard of earlier violations, that this was against ASUCD Elections Bylaws and told the representative to leave. Jack was asked if he “was serious bro," and shortly after being told that Jack was, the campaign representative became slightly irritated and left. Three years ago a similar incident occurred with the entire Student Focus slate campaigning in the dorms.

GO Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part III

Wednesday, November 4, 2007 GO volunteers have allegedly been seen by RA's and freshmen going door to door in the dorms with their laptops getting freshmen to vote. The volunteer even bragged that she had gotten 75 freshmen to vote.

LEAD Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part I

Eric Friedman alleged that there are reports of LEAD candidate Lula Ahmed-Falol campaigning in the dorms. No specific dates were stated nor are there any confirmations of any complaints filed with any particular authority regarding this allegation.

LEAD Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part II

Eric Friedman alleged that there are reports of Delta Delta Delta members campaigning in the dorms in support of LEAD candidate Lauren Thomas, a fellow sorority sister. Eric Friedman received these reports from freshmen in his fraternity, Alpha Epsilon Pi. The reports claims that freshmen supporters of Lauren Thomas went door to door in the dorms the week of the election.

LEAD Candidate Spotted Not Very Close To Polling Station

LEAD candidate Tracey Zeng and her supporters were sighted campaigning close to 100 feet of the Silo polling station by a GO supporter, and the incident was reported to the Elections Committee. The Chair of the elections committee, Jeremy Ross, was there during this incident and informed the GO supporter that Tracey was not within 100 feet.

Trademark lawsuit

Brent Laabs filed a lawsuit against the GO slate alleging the GO slate improperly used university and ASUCD logos on their website. Laabs, a known LEAD sympathizer, withdrew his case because of questions concerning his standing to sue. He was subsequently censured by the ASUCD Court. Steve Ostrowski filed another case much along the same lines. It has yet to be seen whether this case will be accepted, although the ASUCD Court seems eager to consider the question.

Hate Speech in the Dorms

During the Senate Forum in Segundo on Wednesday, November 6th, 2007, a friend of Jesse Rosales, while wearing a GO shirt, yelled the word "faggot" during a LEAD candidate's speech.

Further Controversies

There are further controversies surrounding this particular election being discussed here. The actual allegations themselves were mostly created by persons who are opponents of GO, but there has been some corroboration with more neutral people which suggests that there could be some amount of truth to various claims. It is commonly believed that most of the allegations discussed were already referred to the appropriate authorities, who will in turn make their own decisions as to the validity of each claim. The current Elections Committee chair has already stated that at least one allegation is false, but that decisions regarding the others are still in progress.

Media Coverage

Links

Issues

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Execution of Past Platforms

2007-08-18 10:33:33   As a former employee of ASUCD I have realized several things about our student representatives. I have utmost respect for everyone who is involved with this organization, but unfortunately, I feel like their good intentions amount to a failed execution. No one is interested in making the school better but rather pushing their own agenda (which highlights all the ways they plan on making the campus better). After speaking to several of my colleagues who are not affiliated with ASUCD, I have realized that ASUCD is excruciatingly detached from the student body. There is a science and engineering population which has been ignored since I've been here as a student. ASUCD attempted to erect a committee which would outreach to students, but it's in shambles. And when I approached senators about applying as the chair for the committee, no one owned up to the responsibility. —EmilyTung

Asian American Representation

2007-08-18 10:44:12   As an Asian American student, I am a bit confused as to why the approximately 35% Asian population is so poorly represented by student government. Yes, there are a few members of ASUCD who are of Chinese and Phillipino descent (and I apologize if I'm forgetting anyone else), but where is everyone else? Furthermore, I am shocked to see that there is virtually no representation for the exchange students and other visiting students. If one of your goal is to represent the under represented then there should be steps taken to resolve these issues and so far, nothing has been done. —EmilyTung

Acclaim for Past Senators

2007-08-19 09:56:42   The major hallmarks of ASUCD which stand out in my head was the fixed route service for Tipsy Taxi, the three hole punchers and staplers at the computer stations, and the two sneak previews at Mondavi center (which although I was a part of, I did not in charge). They had an effect on a large portion of the student population, students appreciated the effort, and in the end it was a change that I think all students appreciated. —EmilyTung

Emily: Your "Acclaim For Past Senators" section does not accurately reflect the accomplishments of any Senators, with the exception of one: Rob Roy, a Senator from the 04-05 session. You obviously have not been following the accomplishments of recent Senators. Oh, and Andrew Kim (an Asian) is running this quarter.

First off, the Tipsi Taxi fixed route was conceived and implemented by former ASUCD President Darnell Holloway. This plan ultimately failed. Current ASUCD President Kareem Salem chose not to follow through with it, the City of Davis Police Department chose not to endorse it, and many Unitrans drivers did not support it either. Would you define this as "acclaim?"

And of course I don't have to tell you that the sneak previews at the Mondavi Center (which were totally awesome by the way!) were a result of the efforts of the Entertainment Council, not any Senators.

In the name of releasing accurate information to the public, I will tell you what GO and LEAD Senators accomplished in the past year, which actually contradict a lot of your assertions. How much is LEAD paying you?

GO:

LEAD:

Students: Look at the accomplishments of both slates. These are the facts. You decide who you would like to represent you.

Eric Friedman

Apparently Senator Friedman wasn't paying attention much this year at all....

To clarify..
- Your first achievement was in conjunction with LEAD
- Your third was a result of a committee set up by LEAD

For those who really want the truth about LEAD accomplishments IN THE LAST YEAR (the Senator also neglects this list TIMES SIX)..
*LEED PLATINUM for the Student Resource Center, which will be only the SECOND Platinum building on a UC campus
*LOBBY CORP was bolstered by LEAD efforts, allowing to represent students on important issues outside of UC Davis like textbook affordability and affordable education (Lobby Corp funding also brought to you by LEAD)
*Funded/planned voter registration concert which not only helped mobilize the students by registering them, but also recieved quite a few media hits
*ESTABLISHED the Outreach Assembly, which is working quite well under the leadership of Rebecca Schwartz
*ESTABLISHED the Textbooks Affordability Committee - Textbook rental program at the bookstore, now coming at ya
*FUNDED the REACH retreat, a cross-cultral EMPOWERING weekend experience
*ESTABLISHED the Science and Engineering Committee to INSTITUTIONALIZE outreach to the science and engineering community
*Increased funding to .. Project Compost, KDVS, Club Finance Council, Cal Aggie Camp, and Tipsy Taxi (See SB#22 last year)
*FUNDED AND EXECUTED Homeless Recognition Day on Feb. 27th, 2007, which brought attention to the issue of poverty in the area, was requested by the local community, and was recognized by Assemblymember Lois Wolk
*Revamped the committee on Student-Police Relations (which was established by LEAD)
*FUNDED the "S.H.A.R.E. with New Orleans Food and Wine Festival” which raised over (at least from my memory) $10,000 for victims of Hurricane Katrina
*CREATED the Special Committee on Housing in the City of Davis
*Institutionalized a more fair process for appointing students Undergraduate Representatives of UC Davis Administrative Advisory Committees to ensure more equal representation
*RAISED funding for Aggie Pack Outreach
*ESTABLISHED a working relationship (mostly through the amazing efforts of Senator Fluet) with Aggie Pack that resulted in more co-sponserships, and worked to make sure the move to D1 was successful through the new stadium
*Successfully lobbied for the 2007 Womyn of Color Conference to be at UC Davis
*Organized the FIRST EVER advising days on the Quad (Props to Christine Pham)
*Established ASUCD as a partner in Davis Neighbors Night Out (Props Steven D. Lee)
*Supported and lobbied for AB832 which would lower student's textbook prices
*Successfully lobbied for climate neutrality at UC Davis, supporting UC system wide efforts such as the ACUPCC and UC Sustainability Steering Committee's adoption of the Climate Change Policy
*AND MORE... (because that's just what I can think of)

If one wants to talk about representation, one could point out Senator Friedmans illegal campaigning in the dorms (and his attempt to play it off as 'representing' all of ASUCD).

DanXie

Eric, I don't think you understand my point. My statements were coming from a student's perspective. They don't care to understand the bureaucracy that happens on the 3rd floor of the MU...they just see results. Darnell's plan for a fixed route my have fell through but once upon a time, it did happen and people remember it. I had friends who commented how great it was that the route was fixed. It's a shame it had to fall through after he left. Furthermore, I wasn't the individual who titled that "acclaimed to past senators." Someone had mislabeled my entry. If you had carefully read the first sentence of my paragraph, you'll note that I started off the sentence with, "The major hallmarks of ASUCD..." I could care less about what LEAD did and what GO did because, if you'll read my Daviswiki page, I'm not a fan of bipartisanships and when I find something about any party that I don't like, I make it a point to point it out. And I've spoken to Andrew Kim. As a matter of fact, I grilled him for about 20 minutes about his plans for senate. He, unlike many other GO senators who I've run into, introduced himself, asked if I had any questions, etc.. God, quit being such a little bitch. =]

Users/Emily Tung

"Eric, you are not aware of alot of things, one of them is gender neutral bathrooms are now part of directives for campus planning for all new buildings, thanks to the hard work of individuals at the LGBTRC. I am working to make sure they are part of renovations to the CoHo, oh and there are a few more LEAD accomplishments, maybe if you showed up to meetings you would remember" -Andrew

Andrew: I have missed one senate meeting since the beginning of my term. Same as you. Good job on the bathrooms. I'm sure all 23,000 undergraduates will thank you. What are the other LEAD accomplishments?

Eric Friedman

I missed it to see my sister graduate from high school. You have left meetings and missed them to party with your frat. There is a difference. I don't want to take much credit for the bathrooms, there are so many people that worked incrediblly hard on that. Oh, and I thinkn we have a pretty comprehensive list of LEAD accomplishments on our page. Andrew

I missed one whole meeting because I was the Fall Rush Chair for my fraternity and I had a responsibility. I did not miss meetings to "party." I can name many other senators who have missed more meetings than me.

Eric Friedman

Advice for New Senatorial Candidates

2007-08-19 10:02:28   Also, I strongly advise anyone choosing to run for senate to meet with all the directors in charge of ASUCD units. I think meeting with directors and speaking to their staff is just as important as speaking at sorority meetings. Last fall and spring very few (and I mean like one or two) senators even came up to me to talk to me. And when they got elected very few of them introduced themselves...ugh. What a turn off. —EmilyTung

Cal Aggie Camp Funding

2007-10-06 12:33:53   LEAD will protect subsidization of Cal Aggie Camp whereas GO believes that student money should not go to Cal Aggie Camp and that the money should be raised through concerts. Ultimately one would have to make a leap of faith in trusting that GO will actually come through for those kids, but what would GO do with the extra budget funds? —GregWebb

Our Platform regarding Cal Aggie Camp is: "Raise Money for Cal Aggie Camp, ASUCD's Philanthropy, through Benefit Concerts."

I'm not sure what the confusion with this is? We are pledging to fundraise for Cal Aggie Camp because our fall candidates believe that it is an invaluable resource for underprivileged kids.

The Senate candidates who are taking this on will be organizing concerts. We will charge admission to these concerts. We will make a profit from the tickets. The profit from these ticket sales will go directly to Cal Aggie Camp, our philanthropy. It's quite simple.

All speculation above is completely false. It's only speculation. Hopefully, this post will clear everything up. WE WILL NOT CUT CAL AGGIE CAMP FUNDING. We will INCREASE it's funding by fundraising. These funraisers will involve the student body because everyone loves to go to a concert and everyone loves to contribute to a good cause.

Any questions?

Eric Friedman


2007-10-13 10:55:00   Paul: I believe Emily was an excellent EC Director. In my comments, I never once scrutinized her accomplishments as EC Director. I was just pointing out inaccuracies and shortfalls in her statement.

With regard to Cal Aggie Camp, it is no secret that previous Student Focus Senators didn't think very highly of Cal Aggie Camp. And, it is no secret what I personally think of Cal Aggie Camp. But, I am not running. And, neither are any previous Student Focus senators. It is naive to think that the actions of previous senators will influence the actions of current candidates. My job is to advise our candidates. Our candidates came up with their platforms on their own. GO does not spoon feed platforms. We choose qualified individuals to run who have the capacity to come up with ideas on their own and the drive to implement them.

Paul, you make a good point. Budgeting for fundraisers has been unreliable. I believe this is a result of poor management, not gross overestimation. If we budget for fundraisers, then we should also budget for staff to implement these fundraisers. And ASUCD management should make sure these projects are implemented. I am not assigning blame here, but pointing out shortfalls in our structure. This organizational structure does not promote accountability at all. I have a plan in the works to change this though.

Anyway, fundraising for Cal Aggie Camp is absolutely possible.


2007-10-26 16:37:33   Paul:

Thank you for the touching advice. You have now motivated me to volunteer for Greenpeace.

To clear everything up, your assumption is not my plan. You don't even know my plan. I do not wish to make Senators direct managers over units and commissions. I don't know where you heard this, but it is incorrect.

I do not believe that you should be involved in my plan. While I value your input, my plan involves bringing different perspectives into ASUCD.

Take care. —EricFriedman


2007-10-26 16:52:43   Did Ostrowski break into Eric's account? "You will not be involved in my plan" that's an Ostrowskian phrase if I ever heard one. —JamesSchwab


Eric,

Best of luck with Greenpeace.

Also, best of luck with your legislation. I'm glad we both agree that I shouldn't be involved in your plans. I prefer to spend my time systematically strengthening ASUCD rather than throwing the dice on an untried structure just to see what happens. And again, I hope you realize that the best way to affect POSITIVE change is to first embody that change through your personal attitudes and personal actions.

Perhaps I can't predict what change you'll be proposing on paper because I haven't seen any change in personal attitudes or personal actions yet. Consequently, I just have to base my assumptions on what I hear you talk about on the thrid floor and what Commission members tell me. I do look forward to seeing what your plans actually are, though, as do President Salem and Vice President Hooper.

Most sincerely,

Paul


2007-10-27 05:31:15   "I haven't seen any change in personal attitudes or personal actions yet"

I'm not sure I know what you mean by this. I'm not sure what attitudes and actions you would like me to change, or you see that is wrong. I like the way I am. I am the most principled and arguably one of the most effective and hard working Senators at the table. Please refer to my personal website (which I actually haven't updated yet this year) for details of the projects that I have accomplished as an ASUCD Senator [WWW]http://asucd.ucdavis.edu/government/senators/eric-friedman

Schwab: I'm honored that you would attribute me with Steven Ostrowski. BTW, how's the job at the capitol? They must not be keeping you busy enough. If you're so interested in ASUCD politics, then why don't you go back to school to get a second undergraduate degree?


Eric,

I won't say that you've done anything wrong per se, though I will point out that the only internal change you've actually made to ASUCD so far was instituting public office hours (which I obviously supported, since I coauthored the bill). I will give you some general examples of what I mean by "Being the Change you Wish to See." Please remember that I'm speaking generally, not refering to you specifically.

Senators trying to make ASUCD Units more connected to Student Government should act in ways that make Unit Directors feel comfortable and appreciated. Senators trying to connect ASUCD to the Student Body should hold their public office hours regularly. Senators trying to increase the influence of ASUCD on this campus and in this community should not offer to pick up the tab for the Administration on expensive projects.

In my opinion, these changes in attitudes need to come before bills are written changing our relationship with the Units, the Public, or the Administration. I'm only 20, though, and I could be wrong.

Despite all this, I wish to congratulate you on your accomplishments as a Senator!

-Paul


2007-10-27 12:52:06   Ok, I get what your saying Paul. You're talking about making unit directors feel comfortable. During Senate meetings perhaps? During confirmations? Is that your idea of making them feel comfortable? I understand.

We obviously both have very different attitudes about the way ASUCD should be managed. —EricFriedman



2007-10-29 21:00:08   A lot of what has happened this election, disqualified candidates, court cases, could have been avoided if people read the bylaws. So if you're a candidate that hasn't read the bylaws, you should do it sometime if possible, it's awesome material. But don't print it out.

Other than that, be accepting of people and talk with all people. Don't discriminate against people because they wear a yellow shirt, or any other reason. Overall, I've met all the candidates in this election and each one of them has something to bring to the Senate table. But some are nicer and more accepting people so that definitely goes a long way in my mind. —GregWebb


2007-10-29 23:04:23   Green shirts you mean? —DanXie


2007-11-03 20:20:16   GO criticized me for speaking my thoughts at a recent senate meeting, telling me that I was "sucking up". Not only was that completely offensive but it was totally wrong. For that reason, I avoided the past senate meeting. I honestly don't think we need judgmental people that think like that at the senate table, especially when ASUCD is working so hard to include more people into its business. —GregWebb


2007-11-04 18:38:57   re: GO Campaigning in the Dorms, Part II. Is that controversy heading there without any supporting text because we have not had time to write a description of it already occurring, or is it there because we are preemptively saying that GO is going to do it, but can't write about it yet because it is a future event? If someone can confirm it's the latter, I say we delete it since future events are not facts until they become past events. I personally hope it is the latter too since I was there when the Fall 2004 controversy occured, and the results were not pleasant. —PaulAmnuaypayoat


2007-11-06 11:20:03   It is because of GO campaigning so shadily and their reckless disregard of the individual in their quest for power, that two years of non-partisanship from me has come to an end. I am now proud to announce that I firmly support leadLEAD (as well as the independents), because they don't lie and cheat their way into office. LEAD also has traditionally had a much stronger platform, and achieves more of that platform. —BrentLaabs


2007-11-06 12:51:14   It is because of GO campaigning so shadily and their reckless disregard of the individual in their quest for power, that one year of partisanship from me has come to a reversal in party. I am now proud to announce that I firmly support leadLEAD (as well as the independents), because they don't lie and cheat their way into office. LEAD also has traditionally had a much stronger platform, and achieves more of that platform. —GregWebb


2007-11-06 12:51:14   It is because of LEAD campaigning so shadily and their reckless disregard of the individual in their quest for power, that one year of rotating-partisanship from me has come to a state of non-rotation. I am now proud to announce that I firmly support GO (as well as the independents), because they don't lie and cheat their way into office. GO (and the other historical minority parties) also have traditionally had a much stronger platform, and achieves more of that platform. —J. Bleckman


2007-11-08 04:00:02   I generally prefer to avoid commenting on pages where ASUCD gossip is traded, but in this case, I'd like to remove certain misnomers in the "Trademark lawsuit" portion of the "issues" herein.

Laabs did not withdraw his case regarding "questions" concerning his standing to sue; it was brought to light that Laabs, who, for whatever reason, was not enrolled as a member of ASUCD because he had not payed his fees for the quarter; as such, he automatically lost all privilege to file a case within ASUCD. Although the plaintiff formally withdrew the case, had it been brought up and he had not withdrawn the case, it would have been outside our purview to hear it at all- functionally, once it was discovered that Laabs, at the time of filing, was not an ASUCD member, the case became moot. It would be unethically, unconstitutional, and against the current Judicial Codes for us to proceed to deliver an opinion.

As to the discussion of a second case, please understand that the Court is not "eager" to hear the case; the Court is not "eager" to do anything except for our jobs. It's tantamount to stating that just because someone has proposed a bill, the Senate is "eager" to vote on the legislation. That's simply their job- to vote yes or no on legislation. In the same way, if someone has filed a complaint with the Court, and the Court has decided that it has merit, IE, that an alleged violation would constitute an infraction of either the ASUCD Constitution or the Bylaws, then we will hear the case. It's our
function in ASUCD. We hear cases if they show prima facia merit and they fall within our purview, and someone files them. It would be more correct to state that individuals are eager for us to consider the question. —TimCoady


2007-11-14 15:54:41   re: GO Allegedly Campaigns in the Dorms, Part III -> Wait, they had laptops with them? I don't remember off the top of my head, but I thought that we (as in myself and a bunch of other people) wrote a big piece of legislation making this seriously illegal back in January of 2005. Can anyone get some confirmations of complaints being filed, before we have to move part 3 to the talk page? —PaulAmnuaypayoat


2007-11-27 16:37:46   What's interesting about this election is that if more sophisticated voting methods are used, like Meek's method or CPO-STV, Lauren Thomas would have been elected instead of Tracey Zeng. The former fixes the problem that certain voters have more voting power than others (when one of their lower choices reaches quota before their higher choices are eliminated), and the latter takes into account the fact that some people (280, by my count) who voted for Zeng listed Thomas as the subsequent choice, but due to the fact that Thomas was eliminated earlier, those preferences were exhausted instead of being transferred. —RaghavKrishnapriyan


2007-12-07 15:35:21   Concerning the sorority sisters campaigning in the dorm: Since AEPi and DDD have events with each other, or for the simple fact that DDD's facebook group features the photos of all the members, is there any way you can provide any names for this account, Eric? —AndrewBianchi


2007-12-07 19:33:35   No. If you are interested, come talk to me. I would also like to know the people that complained about GO campaigning, since the only person that has come forward is a LEAD partisan. Our relationship with Tri Delt has nothing to do with this. The above assertion is simply a fact. Allegations about campaigning in the dorms comes from both sides. —EricFriedman


2007-12-08 05:43:54   You know, I hate to say it, but so much of this stuff doesn't really fall under 'issues' so much as 'drama' and other childish nonsense that should be regulated to a talk page, I would like to request Gnomery in this regard to move all talk of this page and the data it represents to a subjugate talk page, leaving issues and other defining points here. Oddly that would include this comment too, so yeah do that please ♥ gnomes. —DavidPoole


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