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2013-04-09 18:39:58 Wouldn't it be more feasible just to have her link to Yelp rather then post entire comments here?? —PeteB
2013-04-09 19:15:18 Or better not to have Yelp links at all, IMO. It's a promotional link to a promotion-driven pay-to-play site. —CovertProfessor
I won't disagree with that statement. —PeteB
Just to clarify, Yelp is only pay-to-play if a business decides to purchase a marketing package, and in those cases it will identify that business as a "Yelp Ad" at the top of the search listing. Lacking this, businesses pay nothing and the reviewers pay nothing, making at least the review section quite comparable to the Wiki. Deciding to ban Yelp listings would logically spur the question as to whether Google Plus, Yahoo, and Facebook review links should also be banned, as all have similar optional promotional structures. Following the pay-to-play logic, Angie's List does charge reviewers, but the businesses have the same option as the other sites listed above. —Dr.Baker
G+y! and FBaren't shady with the review filters for business who don't fork over ~SD
I would argue with that, SD... you don't think FB is shady about how often "liked" businesses' posts pop-up in News Feeds depending on the level of "promoted posts" said businesses buy? I, personally, am not a fan of Yelp, but IMO FB is way more pay-to-play in comparison because FB deliberately and strategically limits visibility. While not perfect, Yelp is for better or worse a huge tool for the socially-connected smartphone generation ("I'll Yelp something" is just as common as "Google it"). To not allow a link to what is essentially an entry to the new Yellow Pages is narrow-minded and borderline snobbery. —KevinWan
I don't use FB I was lumping it in. feel free to remove fb from my comments ~SD
G+ doesn't have reviews (well, people can post them themselves, etc), but you're probably talking about Google Places, whose policy is similar to ours. Incidentally, as these services make it clear they keep positive and negative reviews, and won't step in, even for money, this means that Yelp's pay-to-play policies are even more out of the internet norm. -jw
2013-04-10 14:23:51 To my way of thinking, it's not about who is more evil than whom. They are all evil. The point is the intent of the link. Many smaller companies use FB pages as de facto websites, and they communicate with their customers that way. Linking to the FB page is a way of providing Davisites with information that they would otherwise not have easy access to. Linking to Yelp reviews, on the other hand, is just promotional. Prospective customers can get Davisites perspectives from the wiki itself, and there is nothing further added by Yelp. The fact that Yelp is pay-to-play (and businesses have complained about this) just makes it worse. —CovertProfessor
2013-04-10 16:20:22 I have to disagree because usually customers don't write reviews on multiple pages and for a business that is just starting out on the wiki I don't think YELP is a bad thing. I personally don't pay for YELP for my company but I do benefit from it because a lot of internet users go straight to YELP for reviews. Would you all feel the same way about Linked -In? Just putting in my thoughts as i was a new business owner 8 years ago and used most venues to get my name out there. I also have used this company and know how great Ann is. —ElizabethBarthel
2013-04-10 16:43:46 And, for the 1000th time, Elizabeth, the wiki does not exist for you, your friends, or anyone else to promote their business. You've been around here long enough to know that. —CovertProfessor
2013-04-10 19:26:21 Yelp's advertising policies, once a business has negative reviews, are straight up extortion. Prioritizing (moving to the top) negative reviews for businesses that aren't paying them, while prioritizing positive reviews for businesses that are paying? That's crap.
Despite that, I use Yelp regularly pretty much everywhere except Davis, and it's a great resource from the consumer's perspective. I don't think I'd have a problem with including links to Yelp pages purely for their informational value to readers. But... given how shady Yelp is, I also don't have a problem with excluding links. All in all I'm OK with Yelp links despite their downsides, but I don't feel strongly enough about it to push for a change in the status quo. —TomGarberson