Recent Changes for "Linux" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/LinuxRecent Changes of the page "Linux" on Davis Wiki.en-us Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2009-05-22 07:54:46JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 3: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Linux is freely downloadable online (e.g. see options on [http://distrowatch.com/ distrowatch.com]) and allows you to run a treasure trove of high quality free software applications. The software most useful to the academic community (office suites, mathematics and statistics, and Internet communications) is well represented, and some recent distributions of the OS have gotten so [http://www.ubuntu.com/ user-friendly] that 9 out of 10 grandmothers can use it. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Linux is freely downloadable online (e.g. see options on [http://distrowatch.com/ distrowatch.com]) and allows you to run a treasure trove of high quality free software applications. The software most useful to the academic community (office suites, mathematics and statistics, and Internet communications) is well represented, and some recent distributions of the OS have gotten so [http://www.ubuntu.com/ user<span>]</span>-<span>[http://www.kubuntu.org/ </span>friendly] that 9 out of 10 grandmothers can use it. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2009-01-07 23:21:40CodyDuncanComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 14: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2009-01-07 23:21:40'' [[nbsp]] I just put Ubuntu on my parents (and grandparent's) computer. No problems. --["Users/CodyDuncan"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2008-07-04 17:53:16ScottMilleradded UC Davis software mirror link <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The ["Computer Science" computer science] major at UC Davis is very Linux/Unix centered. As such, many students taking CS classes run some variant of <span>l</span>inux on their machines so they don't have to live in ["CSIF" the dungeon]. ["Apple Inc." OS X] also works for this purpose. </td> <td> <span>+</span> The ["Computer Science" computer science] major at UC Davis is very Linux/Unix centered. As such, many students taking CS classes run some variant of <span>L</span>inux on their machines so they don't have to live in ["CSIF" the dungeon]. ["Apple Inc." OS X] also works for this purpose. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * The UC Davis CSE department offers an [http://cse.ucdavis.edu/computing/service/mirror open source software mirror]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-10-22 23:51:51AlexMandelupdated installfest link from ancient page <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 9: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * [<span>http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~csclub/</span>installfest<span>s.html</span> Installfests] -- an all day event to help you install Linux on your system </td> <td> <span>+</span> * [<span>"</span>installfest<span>"</span> Installfests] -- an all day event to help you install Linux on your system </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 10:44:10JabberWokkyDeleted long personal conversation (not really useful re: Linux in Davis) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-08-26 16:59:57'' [[nbsp]] I'm sure I'm missing something but isn't Windows (monetarily) free? It ships with every PC. In theory I'll have to pay to upgrade to Vista, but not really since I can wait until I actually need a new computer and then it will again ship with the PC. Maybe if you could buy a non-custom PC that had no OS out of the box, Linux would be cheaper, but Macs and PCs already have a free OS!<br> - <br> - I understand that OpenOffice, etc. are free, but you can choose to install these free programs in Windows rather than pay for MS Office. You don't need Linux to install free open-source software, no? --["Users/JasonDunne"]<br> - Well, if you build your own computer, the OS isn't free. Also with Windows, there is the issue of using an OS that sucks. Linux is FAR more powerful and provides so much more functionality than Windows does, for free! --["Users/WilliamLewis"]<br> - The point is not that it is free... the idea is that it is another choice, one that many people prefer. If you are standing there with a McDonald's McNugget in your hand, and somebody invites you to a picnic next door with a table full of homecooked beans, platters of steaks and a big salad fresh from the Farmer's Market, are you going to say "Nah, I have this McNugget that I paid for, so I'll eat that instead... maybe I'll go buy a Coke to go with it"? The point is that there is a feast full of thousands of free applications to edit your own DVDs, watch internet television, chat, create slideshows... do everything that you want, and it's all free... not just the operating system. It isn't for everybody -- some people honestly like fast food better. The point is that you have a choice, and the Linux choice gives you loads of different software you can't run on Windows. (If you have a copy of Windows, you can run many Windows programs on Linux, just like you can run many Windows programs on a Mac with a copy of Windows). The software you're seeing on Windows like OpenOffice is just the tip of a huge iceberg: there are many many *nix applications (from professional tools like the applications used to create the Lord of the Rings movies, to silly things like an über-realistic Matrix screensaver) that simply aren't available on Windows. You are very right in that you're sitting there with a meal you already paid for, and somebody offering you something different is a hassle. It is always easier to eat what is in front of you, and honestly, I generally recommend it (you know you're going get what you expect). Getting handed a whole different system takes awhile to get used to, and it ''will'' take a good deal of trying different applications until you find what you like: in Windows, you probably already know what you like. Thus, I usually recommend that people who like Windows stick with it (same goes for OSX, and the same goes for Linux). Use what you know. But personally? The first thing I do when I get a computer is delete Windows... I'm not a fast food kind of guy, and I prefer the taste of Linux. It is purely about preference; Linux is a different option, not just a "free version of Windows". --["JabberWokky"]<br> - William- I don't really have the time, money, or desire to physically build my own computer, so that's why I indicated "non-custom". Also, I stand by my point that Windows is essentially free. Jabber- A lot of my interest in getting a user-friendly linux like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29 Ubuntu] is based on getting a free version of Adobe PS (which I already have anyways) and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_%28software%29 Maya] in the forms of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_gimp GIMP] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_%28software%29 Blender]. This sort of saves hundreds of dollars except for the fact that they aren't the industry standard so somewhere down the line I'll have to switch to commercial programs. But then I realized you can install them on Windows, so since I don't care much for Matrix screensavers, what am I missing? Oh and I'm vegeterian so I'll only have the beans and salad, thanks. -["users/JasonDunne" JasonDunne]<br> - Did you miss when I told you not to switch? You asked if you were missing something. You still are -- it is a preference issue. Please, please stick with Windows; use what you know. There is no reason whatsoever for you to switch, so stop asking... it is like you liking chocolate and asking why I prefer vanilla. I just do, and you have your chocolate, so stick with what you like. Meanwhile I'll stick with what I like. Please do not switch... there's really no reason for you to. --["JabberWokky"]<br> - The reason I ask is because I have an interest in switching, not because I wish to defend Windows. I'm willing to bet you speak at least one more language than English. Did your French/Japanese/whatever teacher tell you not even to start after you asked a few questions in the start? While I understand the "stick with what you know" philosophy I feel like I'm young enough to where I can still try out new things. Your first comment was actually quite convincing I just had a specific question about graphics programs and was playing the monetary side a little too hard. --["Users/JasonDunne"]<br> - (This is a bit beyond the scope of the wiki... I'd image we should delete this conversation once it is done.) Honestly, unless you have a reason to switch operating systems, it generally isn't a good idea. It will take you months to become proficient in a new operating system, and unless that's your pure goal (just poking around for fun), you wind up after quite a bit of work having learned to do the same stuff that you could do on your old OS. It'll take years to get really good and find all your favorite minor applications so you feel really comfortable there. If you have a compelling reason to switch, like my wife who does computational chemistry and moved from OSX to Linux because all the apps run best there (and things like scientific computing clusters usually run Linux), or my good friend who works for the Federal government (which has mandated a switch to Linux), then you want to switch. I.e., either the thing you use the computer for is only found (or is substantially better) in another operating system, or there is an external reason you have to use a given operating system. If you just like computers and fooling around, it can be fun to try, but that's up to you to decide. Basically, the difficulty involved in switching operating systems is high. If you have to ask "Why?", it probably means you shouldn't. If you have a reason, it may well be worth it, but if you're ''looking'' for a reason to just switch, there really isn't any. --["JabberWokky"]<br> - Okie doke. I'm still considering switching / doing both but I get your points. No gov't mandates here. Go ahead and delete this. Oh and you actually did give a reason by the way:<br> - "there are many many *nix applications (from professional tools like the applications used to create the Lord of the Rings movies, to silly things like an über-realistic Matrix screensaver) that simply aren't available on Windows" -["users/JasonDunne"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-08-27 11:04:35'' [[nbsp]] It's always the screen saver that should make everyone switch OSes ;-) --["Users/WesHardaker"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 10:04:35WesHardakerComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 25: </td> <td> Line 25: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-27 11:04:35'' [[nbsp]] It's always the screen saver that should make everyone switch OSes ;-) --["Users/WesHardaker"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 08:24:17JasonDunne <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 23: </td> <td> Line 23: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Okie doke. I'm still considering switching / doing both but I get your points. No gov't mandates here. Go ahead and delete this. Oh and you actually did give a reason by the way:<br> + "there are many many *nix applications (from professional tools like the applications used to create the Lord of the Rings movies, to silly things like an über-realistic Matrix screensaver) that simply aren't available on Windows" -["users/JasonDunne"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 07:22:04JabberWokkyAnd that technically isn't a reason either. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 22: </td> <td> Line 22: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> (This is a bit beyond the scope of the wiki... I'd image we should delete this conversation once it is done.) Honestly, unless you have a reason to switch operating systems, it generally isn't a good idea. It will take you months to become proficient in a new operating system, and unless that's your pure goal (just poking around for fun), you wind up after quite a bit of work having learned to do the same stuff that you could do on your old OS. It'll take years to get really good and find all your favorite minor applications so you feel really comfortable there. If you have a compelling reason to switch, like my wife who does computational chemistry and moved from OSX to Linux because all the apps run best there (and things like scientific computing clusters usually run Linux), or my good friend who works for the Federal government (which has mandated a switch to Linux), then you want to switch. I.e., either the thing you use the computer for is only found (or is substantially better) in another operating system, or there is an external reason you have to use a given operating system. If you just like computers and fooling around, it can be fun to try, but that's up to you to decide. Basically, the difficulty involved in switching operating systems is high. If you have to ask "Why?", it probably means you shouldn't. If you have a reason, it may well be worth it, but if you're ''looking'' for a reason to just switch, there really isn't any<span>. Other than preference</span>. --["JabberWokky"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> (This is a bit beyond the scope of the wiki... I'd image we should delete this conversation once it is done.) Honestly, unless you have a reason to switch operating systems, it generally isn't a good idea. It will take you months to become proficient in a new operating system, and unless that's your pure goal (just poking around for fun), you wind up after quite a bit of work having learned to do the same stuff that you could do on your old OS. It'll take years to get really good and find all your favorite minor applications so you feel really comfortable there. If you have a compelling reason to switch, like my wife who does computational chemistry and moved from OSX to Linux because all the apps run best there (and things like scientific computing clusters usually run Linux), or my good friend who works for the Federal government (which has mandated a switch to Linux), then you want to switch. I.e., either the thing you use the computer for is only found (or is substantially better) in another operating system, or there is an external reason you have to use a given operating system. If you just like computers and fooling around, it can be fun to try, but that's up to you to decide. Basically, the difficulty involved in switching operating systems is high. If you have to ask "Why?", it probably means you shouldn't. If you have a reason, it may well be worth it, but if you're ''looking'' for a reason to just switch, there really isn't any. --["JabberWokky"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 07:20:52JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 22: </td> <td> Line 22: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ (This is a bit beyond the scope of the wiki... I'd image we should delete this conversation once it is done.) Honestly, unless you have a reason to switch operating systems, it generally isn't a good idea. It will take you months to become proficient in a new operating system, and unless that's your pure goal (just poking around for fun), you wind up after quite a bit of work having learned to do the same stuff that you could do on your old OS. It'll take years to get really good and find all your favorite minor applications so you feel really comfortable there. If you have a compelling reason to switch, like my wife who does computational chemistry and moved from OSX to Linux because all the apps run best there (and things like scientific computing clusters usually run Linux), or my good friend who works for the Federal government (which has mandated a switch to Linux), then you want to switch. I.e., either the thing you use the computer for is only found (or is substantially better) in another operating system, or there is an external reason you have to use a given operating system. If you just like computers and fooling around, it can be fun to try, but that's up to you to decide. Basically, the difficulty involved in switching operating systems is high. If you have to ask "Why?", it probably means you shouldn't. If you have a reason, it may well be worth it, but if you're ''looking'' for a reason to just switch, there really isn't any. Other than preference. --["JabberWokky"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 07:03:17JasonDunne <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-08-27 08:02:03'' [[nbsp]]</span> The reason I ask is because I have an interest in switching, not because I wish to defend Windows. I'm willing to bet you speak at least one more language than English. Did your French/Japanese/whatever teacher tell you not even to start after you asked a few questions in the start? While I understand the "stick with what you know" philosophy I feel like I'm young enough to where I can still try out new things. Your first comment was actually quite convincing I just had a specific question about graphics programs and was playing the monetary side a little too hard. --["Users/JasonDunne"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> The reason I ask is because I have an interest in switching, not because I wish to defend Windows. I'm willing to bet you speak at least one more language than English. Did your French/Japanese/whatever teacher tell you not even to start after you asked a few questions in the start? While I understand the "stick with what you know" philosophy I feel like I'm young enough to where I can still try out new things. Your first comment was actually quite convincing I just had a specific question about graphics programs and was playing the monetary side a little too hard. --["Users/JasonDunne"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 07:02:03JasonDunneComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-27 08:02:03'' [[nbsp]] The reason I ask is because I have an interest in switching, not because I wish to defend Windows. I'm willing to bet you speak at least one more language than English. Did your French/Japanese/whatever teacher tell you not even to start after you asked a few questions in the start? While I understand the "stick with what you know" philosophy I feel like I'm young enough to where I can still try out new things. Your first comment was actually quite convincing I just had a specific question about graphics programs and was playing the monetary side a little too hard. --["Users/JasonDunne"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 06:49:52JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 20: </td> <td> Line 20: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Did you miss when I told you not to switch? You asked if you were missing something. You still are -- it is a preference issue. Please, please stick with Windows; use what you know. There is no reason whatsoever for you to switch, so stop asking... it is like you liking chocolate and asking why I prefer vanilla. I just do, and you have your chocolate, so stick with what you like. Meanwhile I'll stick with what I like. Please do not switch. --["JabberWokky"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> Did you miss when I told you not to switch? You asked if you were missing something. You still are -- it is a preference issue. Please, please stick with Windows; use what you know. There is no reason whatsoever for you to switch, so stop asking... it is like you liking chocolate and asking why I prefer vanilla. I just do, and you have your chocolate, so stick with what you like. Meanwhile I'll stick with what I like. Please do not switch<span>... there's really no reason for you to</span>. --["JabberWokky"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 06:46:30JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 20: </td> <td> Line 20: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Did you miss when I told you not to switch? You asked if you were missing something. You still are -- it is a preference issue. Please, please stick with Windows; use what you know. There is no reason whatsoever for you to switch, so stop asking... it is like you liking chocolate and asking why I prefer vanilla. I just do, and you have your chocolate, so stick with what you like. Meanwhile I'll stick with what I like. Please do not switch. --["JabberWokky"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-27 00:09:08JasonDunnemore accurate comparison <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> William- I don't really have the time, money, or desire to physically build my own computer, so that's why I indicated "non-custom". Also, I stand by my point that Windows is essentially free. Jabber- A lot of my interest in getting a user-friendly linux like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29 Ubuntu] is based on getting a free version of Adobe PS (which I already have anyways) and <span>AutoCAD in the forms of </span>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<span>The_gimp GI</span>M<span>P] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender</span>_%28software%29 Blender]. This sort of saves hundreds of dollars except for the fact that they aren't the industry standard so somewhere down the line I'll have to switch to commercial programs. But then I realized you can install them on Windows, so since I don't care much for Matrix screensavers, what am I missing? Oh and I'm vegeterian so I'll only have the beans and salad, thanks. -["users/JasonDunne" JasonDunne] </td> <td> <span>+</span> William- I don't really have the time, money, or desire to physically build my own computer, so that's why I indicated "non-custom". Also, I stand by my point that Windows is essentially free. Jabber- A lot of my interest in getting a user-friendly linux like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29 Ubuntu] is based on getting a free version of Adobe PS (which I already have anyways) and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M<span>aya</span>_%28software%29 <span>Maya] in the forms of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_gimp GIMP] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_%28software%29 </span>Blender]. This sort of saves hundreds of dollars except for the fact that they aren't the industry standard so somewhere down the line I'll have to switch to commercial programs. But then I realized you can install them on Windows, so since I don't care much for Matrix screensavers, what am I missing? Oh and I'm vegeterian so I'll only have the beans and salad, thanks. -["users/JasonDunne" JasonDunne] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-26 23:56:57JasonDunne <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> William- I don't really have the time, money, or desire to physically build my own computer, so that's why I indicated "non-custom". Also, I stand by my point that Windows is essentially free. Jabber- A lot of my interest in getting a user-friendly linux like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29 Ubuntu] is based on getting a free version of Adobe PS (which I already have anyways) and AutoCAD in the forms of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_gimp GIMP] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_%28software%29 Blender]. This sort of saves hundreds of dollars except for the fact that they aren't the industry standard so somewhere down the line I'll have to switch to commercial programs. But then I realized you can install them on Windows, so since I don't care much for Matrix screensavers, what am I missing? Oh and I'm vegeterian so I'll only have the beans and salad, thanks. -["JasonDunne"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> William- I don't really have the time, money, or desire to physically build my own computer, so that's why I indicated "non-custom". Also, I stand by my point that Windows is essentially free. Jabber- A lot of my interest in getting a user-friendly linux like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29 Ubuntu] is based on getting a free version of Adobe PS (which I already have anyways) and AutoCAD in the forms of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_gimp GIMP] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_%28software%29 Blender]. This sort of saves hundreds of dollars except for the fact that they aren't the industry standard so somewhere down the line I'll have to switch to commercial programs. But then I realized you can install them on Windows, so since I don't care much for Matrix screensavers, what am I missing? Oh and I'm vegeterian so I'll only have the beans and salad, thanks. -["<span>users/</span>JasonDunne"<span>&nbsp;JasonDunne</span>] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-26 23:55:24JasonDunne <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ William- I don't really have the time, money, or desire to physically build my own computer, so that's why I indicated "non-custom". Also, I stand by my point that Windows is essentially free. Jabber- A lot of my interest in getting a user-friendly linux like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29 Ubuntu] is based on getting a free version of Adobe PS (which I already have anyways) and AutoCAD in the forms of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_gimp GIMP] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_%28software%29 Blender]. This sort of saves hundreds of dollars except for the fact that they aren't the industry standard so somewhere down the line I'll have to switch to commercial programs. But then I realized you can install them on Windows, so since I don't care much for Matrix screensavers, what am I missing? Oh and I'm vegeterian so I'll only have the beans and salad, thanks. -["JasonDunne"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-26 19:20:50JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 18: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ The point is not that it is free... the idea is that it is another choice, one that many people prefer. If you are standing there with a McDonald's McNugget in your hand, and somebody invites you to a picnic next door with a table full of homecooked beans, platters of steaks and a big salad fresh from the Farmer's Market, are you going to say "Nah, I have this McNugget that I paid for, so I'll eat that instead... maybe I'll go buy a Coke to go with it"? The point is that there is a feast full of thousands of free applications to edit your own DVDs, watch internet television, chat, create slideshows... do everything that you want, and it's all free... not just the operating system. It isn't for everybody -- some people honestly like fast food better. The point is that you have a choice, and the Linux choice gives you loads of different software you can't run on Windows. (If you have a copy of Windows, you can run many Windows programs on Linux, just like you can run many Windows programs on a Mac with a copy of Windows). The software you're seeing on Windows like OpenOffice is just the tip of a huge iceberg: there are many many *nix applications (from professional tools like the applications used to create the Lord of the Rings movies, to silly things like an über-realistic Matrix screensaver) that simply aren't available on Windows. You are very right in that you're sitting there with a meal you already paid for, and somebody offering you something different is a hassle. It is always easier to eat what is in front of you, and honestly, I generally recommend it (you know you're going get what you expect). Getting handed a whole different system takes awhile to get used to, and it ''will'' take a good deal of trying different applications until you find what you like: in Windows, you probably already know what you like. Thus, I usually recommend that people who like Windows stick with it (same goes for OSX, and the same goes for Linux). Use what you know. But personally? The first thing I do when I get a computer is delete Windows... I'm not a fast food kind of guy, and I prefer the taste of Linux. It is purely about preference; Linux is a different option, not just a "free version of Windows". --["JabberWokky"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-26 17:49:57WilliamLewis <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Well, if you build your own computer, the OS isn't free. Also with Windows, there is the issue of using an OS that sucks. Linux is FAR more powerful and provides so much more functionality than Windows does, for free! --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-08-26 15:59:57JasonDunneComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-26 16:59:57'' [[nbsp]] I'm sure I'm missing something but isn't Windows (monetarily) free? It ships with every PC. In theory I'll have to pay to upgrade to Vista, but not really since I can wait until I actually need a new computer and then it will again ship with the PC. Maybe if you could buy a non-custom PC that had no OS out of the box, Linux would be cheaper, but Macs and PCs already have a free OS!<br> + <br> + I understand that OpenOffice, etc. are free, but you can choose to install these free programs in Windows rather than pay for MS Office. You don't need Linux to install free open-source software, no? --["Users/JasonDunne"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-03-16 21:06:08WilliamLewisMaking link text less ambiguous. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''[wiki:wikipedia:Linux Linux]''' is an open source operating system that is ["Living Cheaply" free] in [wiki:wikipedia:Gratis_versus_Libre more than one way]. Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives Linux development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. It's no surprise that the ["System Info" <span>DavisWiki] </span>is served off a Linux machine. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''[wiki:wikipedia:Linux Linux]''' is an open source operating system that is ["Living Cheaply" free] in [wiki:wikipedia:Gratis_versus_Libre more than one way]. Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives Linux development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. It's no surprise that the <span>DavisWiki </span>["System Info" is served off a Linux machine<span>]</span>. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-03-16 18:29:05CarlMcCabe+ system info link <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''[wiki:wikipedia:Linux Linux]''' is an open source operating system that is ["Living Cheaply" free] in [wiki:wikipedia:Gratis_versus_Libre more than one way]. Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives Linux development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''[wiki:wikipedia:Linux Linux]''' is an open source operating system that is ["Living Cheaply" free] in [wiki:wikipedia:Gratis_versus_Libre more than one way]. Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives Linux development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;It's no surprise that the ["System Info" DavisWiki] is served off a Linux machine.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-02-11 15:47:20JabberWokkywikipedia link to first instance. fmt <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span>Linux is an open source operating system that is ["Living Cheaply" free] in [wiki:wikipedia:Gratis_versus_Libre more than one way]. Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives <span>[wiki:WikiPedia:</span>Linux<span>&nbsp;Linux]</span> development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. </td> <td> <span>+ '''[wiki:wikipedia:</span>Linux<span>&nbsp;Linux]'''</span> is an open source operating system that is ["Living Cheaply" free] in [wiki:wikipedia:Gratis_versus_Libre more than one way]. Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives Linux development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-02-11 15:33:16WilliamLewis <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Many ["Computer Science" computer science] students run linux on their machines so they don't have to live in the ["UC Davis Computer Labs" computer labs]. ["Apple Inc." OS X] also works for this purpose.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ The ["Computer Science" computer science] major at UC Davis is very Linux/Unix centered. As such, many students taking CS classes run some variant of linux on their machines so they don't have to live in ["CSIF" the dungeon]. ["Apple Inc." OS X] also works for this purpose.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-02-11 15:30:09KaiTing <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Many ["Computer Science" computer science] students run linux on their machines so they don't have to live in the ["UC Davis Computer Labs" computer labs]. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Many ["Computer Science" computer science] students run linux on their machines so they don't have to live in the ["UC Davis Computer Labs" computer labs].<span>&nbsp;["Apple Inc." OS X] also works for this purpose.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-02-11 15:28:10KaiTing <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Many ["Computer Science" computer science] students run linux on their machines so they don't have to live in the ["UC Davis Computer Labs" computer labs].</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-02-11 14:56:46WilliamLewisMore than one kind of freedom. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Linux is an open source operating system <span>featuring steeply discounted rates for students, faculty, staff, and even unaffiliated train-hoppers (it'</span>s ["Living Cheaply" free]<span>!)</span>.<span>&nbsp;</span> Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives [wiki:WikiPedia:Linux Linux] development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Linux is an open source operating system <span>that i</span>s ["Living Cheaply" free]<span>&nbsp;in [wiki:wikipedia:Gratis_versus_Libre more than one way]</span>. Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives [wiki:WikiPedia:Linux Linux] development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-02-11 14:34:28KaiTingtried to make it more davis-ish <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Linux is an open source operating system featuring steeply discounted rates for students, faculty, staff, and even unaffiliated train-hoppers (it's ["Living Cheaply" free]!). Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives [wiki:WikiPedia:Linux Linux] development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;As a testament to Linux's popularity in Davis, the local users group (["LUGOD"]) boasts one of the highest memberships in the nation--not to mention one of the most active.</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> Linux is an open source operating system featuring steeply discounted rates for students, faculty, staff, and even unaffiliated train-hoppers (it's ["Living Cheaply" free]!). Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives [wiki:WikiPedia:Linux Linux] development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- If you want to learn more about how you can use Linux, or how you can contribute to the local Linux community, get in touch with a member of the Davis ["LUGOD" users group] or attend one of their meetings.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ =Resources=<br> + * ["LUGOD"] (Linux Users Group of Davis) -- learn more about how you can use Linux, or how you can contribute to the local Linux community, or attend one of their meetings. As a testament to Linux's popularity in Davis, LUGOD boasts one of the highest memberships in the nation--not to mention one of the most active.<br> + * [http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~csclub/installfests.html Installfests] -- an all day event to help you install Linux on your system<br> + * Professor Matloff's [http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/unix.html Unix and Linux Tutorial Center]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-02-11 14:02:54KaiTingwiki link <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Linux is an open source operating system featuring steeply discounted rates for students, faculty, staff, and even unaffiliated train-hoppers (it's ["Living Cheaply" free]!). Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives Linux development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. As a testament to Linux's popularity in Davis, the local users group (["LUGOD"]) boasts one of the highest memberships in the nation--not to mention one of the most active. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Linux is an open source operating system featuring steeply discounted rates for students, faculty, staff, and even unaffiliated train-hoppers (it's ["Living Cheaply" free]!). Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives <span>[wiki:WikiPedia:</span>Linux<span>&nbsp;Linux]</span> development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. As a testament to Linux's popularity in Davis, the local users group (["LUGOD"]) boasts one of the highest memberships in the nation--not to mention one of the most active. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-02-11 08:35:16CarlMcCabeapostro-subtracto <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Linux is an open source operating system featuring steeply discounted rates for students, faculty, staff, and even unaffiliated train-hoppers (it's ["Living Cheaply" free]!). Most relevant to community-minded Davis<span>'</span> is the philosophy that drives Linux development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. As a testament to Linux's popularity in Davis, the local users group (["LUGOD"]) boasts one of the highest memberships in the nation--not to mention one of the most active. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Linux is an open source operating system featuring steeply discounted rates for students, faculty, staff, and even unaffiliated train-hoppers (it's ["Living Cheaply" free]!). Most relevant to community-minded Davis is the philosophy that drives Linux development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. As a testament to Linux's popularity in Davis, the local users group (["LUGOD"]) boasts one of the highest memberships in the nation--not to mention one of the most active. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Linuxhttp://daviswiki.org/Linux2007-02-11 08:32:43CarlMcCabequack! (or whatever noise a penguin makes...) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Linux<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Linux is an open source operating system featuring steeply discounted rates for students, faculty, staff, and even unaffiliated train-hoppers (it's ["Living Cheaply" free]!). Most relevant to community-minded Davis' is the philosophy that drives Linux development: (1) you should be able to know exactly how your operating system works, (2) you should be able to change it if you don't like how it works, and (3) you should be able to freely share it with others. As a testament to Linux's popularity in Davis, the local users group (["LUGOD"]) boasts one of the highest memberships in the nation--not to mention one of the most active.<br> + <br> + Linux is freely downloadable online (e.g. see options on [http://distrowatch.com/ distrowatch.com]) and allows you to run a treasure trove of high quality free software applications. The software most useful to the academic community (office suites, mathematics and statistics, and Internet communications) is well represented, and some recent distributions of the OS have gotten so [http://www.ubuntu.com/ user-friendly] that 9 out of 10 grandmothers can use it.<br> + <br> + If you want to learn more about how you can use Linux, or how you can contribute to the local Linux community, get in touch with a member of the Davis ["LUGOD" users group] or attend one of their meetings.<br> + <br> + [[Comments()]]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>