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Mace Ranch Community Park Habitat Area

JasonAller — 2008-07-10 13:05:48

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- ''2007-03-15 11:37:09'' [[nbsp]] Goats are domestic animals right? Some wildlife. It was more wild before the city ever did anything to it, such as declaring it a "wildlife area". Mowing the grass with goats may be more wild than with riding lawnmowers, but that is nowhere near the sort of wilderness in a place like Modoc County. Meanwhile, grass grows in cracks in the sidewalk, cockroaches infest restaurants, and these are unrecognized as wildlife. Whether or not humans can be wild is still another issue (Is panhandling or graffitti on train cars wild?). Wild should mean uncontrolled and disorganized, and relative wilderness all depends on point of view. --["NickSchmalenberger"]	+ ''2007-03-15 11:37:09'' [[nbsp]] Goats are domestic animals right? Some wildlife. It was more wild before the city ever did anything to it, such as declaring it a "wildlife area". Mowing the grass with goats may be more wild than with riding lawnmowers, but that is nowhere near the sort of wilderness in a place like Modoc County. Meanwhile, grass grows in cracks in the sidewalk, cockroaches infest restaurants, and these are unrecognized as wildlife. Whether or not humans can be wild is still another issue (Is panhandling or graffitti on train cars wild?). Wild should mean uncontrolled and disorganized, and relative wilderness all depends on point of view. --["Users/NickSchmalenberger"]
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- ''2007-03-15 12:38:28'' [[nbsp]] Yeah... I was sort of happy they left at least some of the field for wildlife but was confused when they put in goats... I'm sure owls, thouh they may not like the long grass, have lived in it for years before we started mowing it with goats for them. Of course, we should have never built the city at all if we wanted wildlife to exist everywhere. The other attempts at open spaces in the city (see the ponds) are about equally controlled, watered, etc. --["WesHardaker"]	+ ''2007-03-15 12:38:28'' [[nbsp]] Yeah... I was sort of happy they left at least some of the field for wildlife but was confused when they put in goats... I'm sure owls, thouh they may not like the long grass, have lived in it for years before we started mowing it with goats for them. Of course, we should have never built the city at all if we wanted wildlife to exist everywhere. The other attempts at open spaces in the city (see the ponds) are about equally controlled, watered, etc. --["Users/WesHardaker"]
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- ''2007-03-15 13:24:42'' [[nbsp]] I think the ponds have really been pretty successful. I think the one near me in ["West Davis"] is pretty nice looking and is useful for drainage too. I have often wanted to take a canoe around it. --["NickSchmalenberger"]	+ ''2007-03-15 13:24:42'' [[nbsp]] I think the ponds have really been pretty successful. I think the one near me in ["West Davis"] is pretty nice looking and is useful for drainage too. I have often wanted to take a canoe around it. --["Users/NickSchmalenberger"]
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- ''2007-03-15 15:57:53'' [[nbsp]] I like the ponds too, but they're not "natural" landscaping as would exist if no one had anything to do with it (some are even watered by the city during the summer). I actually have no idea what the current area in mace ranch is called... maybe it's not a "wildlife" area (which I guess is what you have an issue with? If so, I think the name is mine). BTW, if you like natural areas, do check out the grasslands park south on Mace. Much more "native" habitat --["WesHardaker"] - Did I say I thought the ponds were natural? The ponds are certainly artificial I agree, but I think nice anyway. The sign on ["Mace Ranch Park"] says "habitat area" which I think is an even worse name. The whole area is zoned residential and I don't see much point in setting aside habitat for burrowing owls or "wildlife" specifically. If it is set aside for some particular purpose how wild can it really be? What if, gasp, a non-native species moved in? The city would hire all sorts of consultants to come in and manage everything to fit their fantasy. I think a better name for this sort of place would be "Natural History Preserve" to reflect the dynamic nature of wilderness. There should also be some sort of benefit to the city like the storm drainage in the ponds. I had an excellent discussion with ["SteveDavison"] about the meaning of natural on ["Food/Natural"]. I have been to ["Yolo County Grasslands Regional Park"] too, I agree it is nice. --["NickSchmalenberger"] - The burrowing owl is a threatened species and attempts have been made to list it as endangered in California. That's the "point in setting aside habitat" for them. Second, I think the whole point about the area not being wild is cute and all, but really what is the point. You would be hard pressed to find any area in the lower 48 that isn't managed and therefore by your definition not wild, but yet some of that land has been set aside as reserves where particular species are likely to persist. Are the burrow owls likely to persist at Mace Ranch? I don't know, but it beats not trying. Actually, wasn't the reserve or park (or whatever you want to call it) a required part of the Mace Ranch development. --["JimEvans"]	+ ''2007-03-15 15:57:53'' [[nbsp]] I like the ponds too, but they're not "natural" landscaping as would exist if no one had anything to do with it (some are even watered by the city during the summer). I actually have no idea what the current area in mace ranch is called... maybe it's not a "wildlife" area (which I guess is what you have an issue with? If so, I think the name is mine). BTW, if you like natural areas, do check out the grasslands park south on Mace. Much more "native" habitat --["Users/WesHardaker"] + Did I say I thought the ponds were natural? The ponds are certainly artificial I agree, but I think nice anyway. The sign on ["Mace Ranch Park"] says "habitat area" which I think is an even worse name. The whole area is zoned residential and I don't see much point in setting aside habitat for burrowing owls or "wildlife" specifically. If it is set aside for some particular purpose how wild can it really be? What if, gasp, a non-native species moved in? The city would hire all sorts of consultants to come in and manage everything to fit their fantasy. I think a better name for this sort of place would be "Natural History Preserve" to reflect the dynamic nature of wilderness. There should also be some sort of benefit to the city like the storm drainage in the ponds. I had an excellent discussion with ["Users/SteveDavison"] about the meaning of natural on ["Food/Natural"]. I have been to ["Yolo County Grasslands Regional Park"] too, I agree it is nice. --["Users/NickSchmalenberger"] + The burrowing owl is a threatened species and attempts have been made to list it as endangered in California. That's the "point in setting aside habitat" for them. Second, I think the whole point about the area not being wild is cute and all, but really what is the point. You would be hard pressed to find any area in the lower 48 that isn't managed and therefore by your definition not wild, but yet some of that land has been set aside as reserves where particular species are likely to persist. Are the burrow owls likely to persist at Mace Ranch? I don't know, but it beats not trying. Actually, wasn't the reserve or park (or whatever you want to call it) a required part of the Mace Ranch development. --["Users/JimEvans"]
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- ''2007-03-15 22:25:51'' [[nbsp]] I think all new development requires new land set aside for "no development" (covel village developers praised themselves for the land they set aside (which, actually, may have been above the minimum; I don't know)). Actually, there is a lot more owls in other areas in mace ranch than just that little patch. Say, for example, right where target is going to go. --["WesHardaker"]	+ ''2007-03-15 22:25:51'' [[nbsp]] I think all new development requires new land set aside for "no development" (covel village developers praised themselves for the land they set aside (which, actually, may have been above the minimum; I don't know)). Actually, there is a lot more owls in other areas in mace ranch than just that little patch. Say, for example, right where target is going to go. --["Users/WesHardaker"]
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- ''2007-03-15 22:39:33'' [[nbsp]] Sometimes I forget how unconventional my idea of wilderness actually is, so I'm sorry. It includes rusted out cars and bird poop on statues but does not include burrowing owls living in artificial burrows maintained for them by people. --["NickSchmalenberger"]	+ ''2007-03-15 22:39:33'' [[nbsp]] Sometimes I forget how unconventional my idea of wilderness actually is, so I'm sorry. It includes rusted out cars and bird poop on statues but does not include burrowing owls living in artificial burrows maintained for them by people. --["Users/NickSchmalenberger"]
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- ''2007-03-15 23:04:34'' [[nbsp]] I certainly haven't heard of plastic burrows... is there supposed to be plastic burrows in that area? given our frog tunnel I guess I wouldn't be surprised. --["WesHardaker"]] - Actually I don't know if they are plastic, I wrote that off the top of my head, but I read it off the picture of the sign ["JasonAller"] uploaded on ["Mace Ranch Park"]... There could be some affordable housing jokes about this. --["NickSchmalenberger"]	+ ''2007-03-15 23:04:34'' [[nbsp]] I certainly haven't heard of plastic burrows... is there supposed to be plastic burrows in that area? given our frog tunnel I guess I wouldn't be surprised. --["Users/WesHardaker"] + Actually I don't know if they are plastic, I wrote that off the top of my head, but I read it off the picture of the sign ["Users/JasonAller"] uploaded on ["Mace Ranch Park"]... There could be some affordable housing jokes about this. --["Users/NickSchmalenberger"]

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JasonAller — 2007-03-30 19:28:59

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WesHardaker — 2007-03-23 16:39:42

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WesHardaker — 2007-03-15 23:17:21

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- The '''Mace Ranch Community Park Habitat Wildlife Area''' is an area in the ["Mace Ranch Park"] that has been set aside as a wild life habitat. There are a plethora of rabbits living in the fenced in area, and almost always some ["Burrowing Owls"] as well. Because the grass becomes too long for the ["Burrowing Owls"] during the spring time, sheep and goats are placed within the fence to mow the grasses.	+ The '''Mace Ranch Community Park Habitat Area''' is an area in the ["Mace Ranch Park"] that has been set aside as a wild life habitat. There are a plethora of rabbits living in the fenced in area, and almost always some ["Burrowing Owls"] as well. Because the grass becomes too long for the ["Burrowing Owls"] during the spring time, sheep and goats are placed within the fence to mow the grasses.

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WesHardaker — 2007-03-15 23:16:50

name needed changing in more than just thet title.

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- The '''Mace Ranch Wildlife Area''' is an area in the ["Mace Ranch Park"] that has been set aside as a wild life habitat. There are a plethora of rabbits living in the fenced in area, and almost always some ["Burrowing Owls"] as well. Because the grass becomes too long for the ["Burrowing Owls"] during the spring time, sheep and goats are placed within the fence to mow the grasses.	+ The '''Mace Ranch Community Park Habitat Wildlife Area''' is an area in the ["Mace Ranch Park"] that has been set aside as a wild life habitat. There are a plethora of rabbits living in the fenced in area, and almost always some ["Burrowing Owls"] as well. Because the grass becomes too long for the ["Burrowing Owls"] during the spring time, sheep and goats are placed within the fence to mow the grasses.

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NickSchmalenberger — 2007-03-15 23:13:57

Renamed from "Mace Ranch Wildlife Area" (its what the city calls it, see the sign on Mace Ranch Park)

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	+ [[Image(owls1.jpg, 200, thumbnail, right, "Burrowing Owls in the Protected Area")]] + + The '''Mace Ranch Wildlife Area''' is an area in the ["Mace Ranch Park"] that has been set aside as a wild life habitat. There are a plethora of rabbits living in the fenced in area, and almost always some ["Burrowing Owls"] as well. Because the grass becomes too long for the ["Burrowing Owls"] during the spring time, sheep and goats are placed within the fence to mow the grasses. + + == Pictures == + + [[Image(sheep.jpg, thumbnail, 300, "Lawn Mowers")]] + [[Image(restinggoat.jpg, thumbnail, 300, "A resting baby goat")]] + + [[Comments]] + ------ + ''2007-03-15 11:37:09'' [[nbsp]] Goats are domestic animals right? Some wildlife. It was more wild before the city ever did anything to it, such as declaring it a "wildlife area". Mowing the grass with goats may be more wild than with riding lawnmowers, but that is nowhere near the sort of wilderness in a place like Modoc County. Meanwhile, grass grows in cracks in the sidewalk, cockroaches infest restaurants, and these are unrecognized as wildlife. Whether or not humans can be wild is still another issue (Is panhandling or graffitti on train cars wild?). Wild should mean uncontrolled and disorganized, and relative wilderness all depends on point of view. --["NickSchmalenberger"] + + ''2007-03-15 12:38:28'' [[nbsp]] Yeah... I was sort of happy they left at least some of the field for wildlife but was confused when they put in goats... I'm sure owls, thouh they may not like the long grass, have lived in it for years before we started mowing it with goats for them. Of course, we should have never built the city at all if we wanted wildlife to exist everywhere. The other attempts at open spaces in the city (see the ponds) are about equally controlled, watered, etc. --["WesHardaker"] + ------ + ''2007-03-15 13:24:42'' [[nbsp]] I think the ponds have really been pretty successful. I think the one near me in ["West Davis"] is pretty nice looking and is useful for drainage too. I have often wanted to take a canoe around it. --["NickSchmalenberger"] + ------ + ''2007-03-15 15:57:53'' [[nbsp]] I like the ponds too, but they're not "natural" landscaping as would exist if no one had anything to do with it (some are even watered by the city during the summer). I actually have no idea what the current area in mace ranch is called... maybe it's not a "wildlife" area (which I guess is what you have an issue with? If so, I think the name is mine). BTW, if you like natural areas, do check out the grasslands park south on Mace. Much more "native" habitat --["WesHardaker"] + Did I say I thought the ponds were natural? The ponds are certainly artificial I agree, but I think nice anyway. The sign on ["Mace Ranch Park"] says "habitat area" which I think is an even worse name. The whole area is zoned residential and I don't see much point in setting aside habitat for burrowing owls or "wildlife" specifically. If it is set aside for some particular purpose how wild can it really be? What if, gasp, a non-native species moved in? The city would hire all sorts of consultants to come in and manage everything to fit their fantasy. I think a better name for this sort of place would be "Natural History Preserve" to reflect the dynamic nature of wilderness. There should also be some sort of benefit to the city like the storm drainage in the ponds. I had an excellent discussion with ["SteveDavison"] about the meaning of natural on ["Food/Natural"]. I have been to ["Yolo County Grasslands Regional Park"] too, I agree it is nice. --["NickSchmalenberger"] + The burrowing owl is a threatened species and attempts have been made to list it as endangered in California. That's the "point in setting aside habitat" for them. Second, I think the whole point about the area not being wild is cute and all, but really what is the point. You would be hard pressed to find any area in the lower 48 that isn't managed and therefore by your definition not wild, but yet some of that land has been set aside as reserves where particular species are likely to persist. Are the burrow owls likely to persist at Mace Ranch? I don't know, but it beats not trying. Actually, wasn't the reserve or park (or whatever you want to call it) a required part of the Mace Ranch development. --["JimEvans"] + + ''2007-03-15 22:25:51'' [[nbsp]] I think all new development requires new land set aside for "no development" (covel village developers praised themselves for the land they set aside (which, actually, may have been above the minimum; I don't know)). Actually, there is a lot more owls in other areas in mace ranch than just that little patch. Say, for example, right where target is going to go. --["WesHardaker"] + ------ + ''2007-03-15 22:39:33'' [[nbsp]] Sometimes I forget how unconventional my idea of wilderness actually is, so I'm sorry. It includes rusted out cars and bird poop on statues but does not include burrowing owls living in artificial burrows maintained for them by people. --["NickSchmalenberger"] + ------ + ''2007-03-15 23:04:34'' [[nbsp]] I certainly haven't heard of plastic burrows... is there supposed to be plastic burrows in that area? given our frog tunnel I guess I wouldn't be surprised. --["WesHardaker"]] + Actually I don't know if they are plastic, I wrote that off the top of my head, but I read it off the picture of the sign ["JasonAller"] uploaded on ["Mace Ranch Park"]... There could be some affordable housing jokes about this. --["NickSchmalenberger"]

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WesHardaker — 2007-03-15 10:00:22

Upload of image sheep.jpg.

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WesHardaker — 2007-03-15 09:59:52

Upload of image restinggoat.jpg.

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WesHardaker — 2007-03-15 09:59:27

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