Recent Changes for "March 4, 2010 Public Education protest" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protestRecent Changes of the page "March 4, 2010 Public Education protest" on Davis Wiki.en-us March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2011-11-24 01:08:30PhilipNeustromlinking Annette Spicuzza <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The Aggie paraphrased the CHP as saying "that the computerized evidence shows beyond any doubt that only one Taser was deployed, and it did not successfully release its charge." An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mode, it's distinctive clicking clearly audible. ["UC Davis Police"] Chief Annette Spicuzza watched the video and the Aggie paraphrased her response as saying "it was unlikely Nadimi was stunned since her visible reaction did not match what one would normally see after a 50,000-volt current hits a target." The CHP subsequently admitted that a taser was used on at least one student. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The Aggie paraphrased the CHP as saying "that the computerized evidence shows beyond any doubt that only one Taser was deployed, and it did not successfully release its charge." An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mode, it's distinctive clicking clearly audible. ["UC Davis Police<span>&nbsp;Department</span>"] Chief <span>["</span>Annette Spicuzza<span>"]</span> watched the video and the Aggie paraphrased her response as saying "it was unlikely Nadimi was stunned since her visible reaction did not match what one would normally see after a 50,000-volt current hits a target." The CHP subsequently admitted that a taser was used on at least one student. </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-10-21 14:07:21JonCantrell <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 263: </td> <td> Line 263: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - "Che Guevara [t-shirts]. The dude was a murderer and a war criminal." I hate when people, attempting to sound smart, interject their opinion as fact. Among many things, the 'dude' is listed by "Time" as one of the 100 most influential people of the 20th century. He was a writer and diarist, detailing his trips to motorcycle journey across South America -ever read it Dozer? Witnessing poverty, he sought social reforms, instituting agrarian reform as minister of industries and reviewing appeals from those convicted as "war crimminals." No, Dozer, you must think that he was a war criminal because he repelled the Bay of Pigs Invasion, a US taxpayer paid and led fiasco, an unprovoked aggression against a country that made our country less safe. No, it's easy for you to sit back and judge people from your comfortable middle-class lifestyle, completely insulated from their concerns, and I am sure you consider yourself completely morally justified to continue paying your taxes to fuel the wars that give rise to passionate men, men you deride with ridicule, men you hate as you can never aspire to be, as you waste here in complacency. You Doze, not the protesters, are the real threat to peace in this world. Perhaps you should reread MLK, and discover who was the actual threat to change --middle-class, complacent, troglodytes. --["Users/JonCantrell"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-10-21 14:05:25JonCantrell <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 263: </td> <td> Line 263: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + "Che Guevara [t-shirts]. The dude was a murderer and a war criminal." I hate when people, attempting to sound smart, interject their opinion as fact. Among many things, the 'dude' is listed by "Time" as one of the 100 most influential people of the 20th century. He was a writer and diarist, detailing his trips to motorcycle journey across South America -ever read it Dozer? Witnessing poverty, he sought social reforms, instituting agrarian reform as minister of industries and reviewing appeals from those convicted as "war crimminals." No, Dozer, you must think that he was a war criminal because he repelled the Bay of Pigs Invasion, a US taxpayer paid and led fiasco, an unprovoked aggression against a country that made our country less safe. No, it's easy for you to sit back and judge people from your comfortable middle-class lifestyle, completely insulated from their concerns, and I am sure you consider yourself completely morally justified to continue paying your taxes to fuel the wars that give rise to passionate men, men you deride with ridicule, men you hate as you can never aspire to be, as you waste here in complacency. You Doze, not the protesters, are the real threat to peace in this world. Perhaps you should reread MLK, and discover who was the actual threat to change --middle-class, complacent, troglodytes. --["Users/JonCantrell"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-08-30 21:52:08nocampo <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 88: </td> <td> Line 88: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ [[Image(saveeducation.jpg)]]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-08-30 21:51:02nocampoUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest?action=Files&do=view&target=saveeducation.jpg">saveeducation.jpg</a>.March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-08-30 21:42:43nocampo <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 29: </td> <td> Line 29: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- [[Image(Protesters with Signs.JPG)]]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-08-30 21:41:52nocampo <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 28: </td> <td> Line 28: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + [[Image(Protesters with Signs.JPG)]]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-08-30 21:40:30nocampoUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest?action=Files&do=view&target=Protesters%20with%20Signs.JPG">Protesters with Signs.JPG</a>.March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-06-04 13:52:38themitch <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 20: </td> <td> Line 20: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> The protests were stopped by a line of police just short of the interstate, but similar protests in the Bay Area resulted in the closure of the 880 in Oakland.<span>&nbsp;This just demonstrates once again that Davis always looks lame when trying to imitate Cal. Perhaps Davis should try to be itself and plan more ["Cows" Cow]-themed protests in the future.</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> The protests were stopped by a line of police just short of the interstate, but similar protests in the Bay Area resulted in the closure of the 880 in Oakland. </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-04-26 20:06:24JasonAllerUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest?action=Files&do=view&target=cockroaches-hide-from-the-light.jpg">cockroaches-hide-from-the-light.jpg</a>.March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-04-26 20:06:06JasonAllerUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest?action=Files&do=view&target=on-brick.jpg">on-brick.jpg</a>.March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-04-26 20:05:31JasonAllerUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest?action=Files&do=view&target=battle.jpg">battle.jpg</a>.March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-04-26 20:05:15JasonAllerUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest?action=Files&do=view&target=banner.jpg">banner.jpg</a>.March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-04-26 20:04:53JasonAller(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - 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Statewide, the protest was about '''public education and budget cuts''' within the UC and CSU systems.<br> + <br> + Major "big picture" protest issues were:<br> + * '''privatization of the University'''<br> + * '''lower quality of education'''<br> + * '''loss of jobs''' for janitors, faculty, staff, and student-workers<br> + * '''fee Increase''': Every students' educational fee will increase 32%. ["Undergraduate Student Fees" Undergraduate tuition] will increase $2,378 per year, going from $7,473 to * $9,811. This follows a long line of fee increases, as seen in the historic data: [[File(UCD student fees.xls)]]<br> + [[Image(photo004.jpg, thumbnail, 300, "Strike sign -- ["Users/HarrisonM"]", right)]]<br> + In terms of educational cuts at UC Davis, the protest broadened to complaints about:<br> + * '''closure of the Geography Graduate Group'''<br> + * '''cuts to the College of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences''': $3.8 million cut in funding for 2009-2010. It will go from $70 million to $66.2 million, a 5.2 percent decrease.<br> + * '''closure of Nematology'''<br> + * '''closure of Environmental Design'''<br> + * '''closure of the Textiles and Clothing division'''. No longer funding the department nor hiring teachers to replace those that retire. "There will be fewer TAs for discussions and laboratory courses, reduced maintenance and expansion of facilities and fewer student service and outreach funds." [http://theaggie.org/article/2009/11/12/textiles-and-clothing-division-faces-uncertain-future Aggie article]<br> + <br> + Other issues that people allegedly came out to support and protest about include:<br> + * '''closure of affordable and sustainable housing''', specifically ["Davis Student Co-op"]<br> + * '''closure of the Breastfeeding Support Program'''<br> + * '''homophobia'''. This was sparked by vandalism done to the ["LGBTRC"] leading up to March 4.<br> + * '''anti-Semitism and pro-Nazism'''. This was sparked by a swastika drawn on the dorm-room door of a Jewish student and three swastikas spray-painted around campus.<br> + * '''racism'''. This was sparked by events at UCSD and Missouri University<br> + * '''Israel's aggressions on Palestine.''' This was sparked by UCI hosting the Israeli Ambassador to the United States<br> + * '''the war on terror''' spending billions of dollars while cutting money from our schools<br> + * '''police brutality''' many more protesters joined in after hearing the news of the police use of force on students by I-80, as described below</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-28 13:09:09JabberWokkyrm statement of beliefs and positions, as they advertise their beliefs. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 24: </td> <td> Line 24: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - =Reasons for Protesting=<br> - <br> - Once the protest began, it turned into a large mob-like atmosphere. Statewide, the protest was about '''public education and budget cuts''' within the UC and CSU systems.<br> - <br> - Major "big picture" protest issues were:<br> - * '''privatization of the University'''<br> - * '''lower quality of education'''<br> - * '''loss of jobs''' for janitors, faculty, staff, and student-workers<br> - * '''fee Increase''': Every students' educational fee will increase 32%. ["Undergraduate Student Fees" Undergraduate tuition] will increase $2,378 per year, going from $7,473 to * $9,811. This follows a long line of fee increases, as seen in the historic data: [[File(UCD student fees.xls)]]<br> - [[Image(photo004.jpg, thumbnail, 300, "Strike sign -- ["Users/HarrisonM"]", right)]]<br> - In terms of educational cuts at UC Davis, the protest broadened to complaints about:<br> - * '''closure of the Geography Graduate Group'''<br> - * '''cuts to the College of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences''': $3.8 million cut in funding for 2009-2010. It will go from $70 million to $66.2 million, a 5.2 percent decrease.<br> - * '''closure of Nematology'''<br> - * '''closure of Environmental Design'''<br> - * '''closure of the Textiles and Clothing division'''. No longer funding the department nor hiring teachers to replace those that retire. "There will be fewer TAs for discussions and laboratory courses, reduced maintenance and expansion of facilities and fewer student service and outreach funds." [http://theaggie.org/article/2009/11/12/textiles-and-clothing-division-faces-uncertain-future Aggie article]<br> - <br> - Other issues that people allegedly came out to support and protest about include:<br> - * '''closure of affordable and sustainable housing''', specifically ["Davis Student Co-op"]<br> - * '''closure of the Breastfeeding Support Program'''<br> - * '''homophobia'''. This was sparked by vandalism done to the ["LGBTRC"] leading up to March 4.<br> - * '''anti-Semitism and pro-Nazism'''. This was sparked by a swastika drawn on the dorm-room door of a Jewish student and three swastikas spray-painted around campus.<br> - * '''racism'''. This was sparked by events at UCSD and Missouri University<br> - * '''Israel's aggressions on Palestine.''' This was sparked by UCI hosting the Israeli Ambassador to the United States<br> - * '''the war on terror''' spending billions of dollars while cutting money from our schools<br> - * '''police brutality''' many more protesters joined in after hearing the news of the police use of force on students by I-80, as described below</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-14 22:46:20DozerComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 241: </td> <td> Line 241: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-03-14 22:46:20'' [[nbsp]] OK, I watched the video on Aggie TV and I thought the protesters made an ass of themselves to be honest. Before I go any further, I would like to state that their reason for anger and frustration is 110% justified and something needs to be done. But all those protesters managed to do is make total tools of themselves and piss off the rest of the student body. A lot of people were in class and these people forced them out with fire alarms. This protests was anything but peaceful. (Well with exceptions of that dude trying to give that cop a flower...Thought that was kinda cool) These assholes, held up an intersection and buses and tried to hold down a freeway. They terrorized a town trying to FORCE people to do what they want. Do you guys see the hypocrisy here? Also the Aggie reporter was so biased and stupid. She kept saying how brutal the police were and how the protesters were being peaceful and breaking NO laws. I watched the video and counted 8 laws the protesters broke. But there was a few protesters who went on (Right after the reporter made her remarks BTW) to say things along the lines of: "I understand why the police are trying to stop us. We are breaking the law, but we have to do what we have to do and they have to do what they have to do. But the ends justify the means". God bless those protesters who said that. Although I dont agree with their means, at least they are in reality. Then to over exaggerate the injuries at the end was pathetic. You had some bruises. Watch videos of protests from the 60's and compare injuries. Oh and stop wearing Che Guevara t-shirts. The dude was a murderer and a war criminal. If you want to promote peace, wear Ghandi and Martin Luther King. (Two personal heroes of mine)<br> + <br> + So here is what was accomplished:<br> + Laws broken<br> + Town terrorized<br> + Students caused pain and anguish to those who have nothing to do with the problem at hand<br> + Problems still stand.<br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + I just wish this wasnt so misguided. I personally wouldve liked to have us all lined up Russell shoulder to shoulder. Gaining support from those who surround us, rather then harassing the citizens of Davis and making their life difficult. The businesses here have been good to us, we should return the favor, not cause them harm. --["Users/Dozer"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-14 20:59:51WilliamLewis <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The Aggie paraphrased the CHP as saying "that the computerized evidence shows beyond any doubt that only one Taser was deployed, and it did not successfully release its charge." An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mode. ["UC Davis Police"] Chief Annette Spicuzza watched the video and the Aggie paraphrased her response as saying "it was unlikely Nadimi was stunned since her visible reaction did not match what one would normally see after a 50,000-volt current hits a target." The CHP subsequently admitted that a taser was used on at least one student. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The Aggie paraphrased the CHP as saying "that the computerized evidence shows beyond any doubt that only one Taser was deployed, and it did not successfully release its charge." An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mod<span>e, it's distinctive clicking clearly audibl</span>e. ["UC Davis Police"] Chief Annette Spicuzza watched the video and the Aggie paraphrased her response as saying "it was unlikely Nadimi was stunned since her visible reaction did not match what one would normally see after a 50,000-volt current hits a target." The CHP subsequently admitted that a taser was used on at least one student. </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-14 20:56:37WilliamLewisBecause cops are often wrong and are no better witnesses than anyone else <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The <span>[http://twitter.com/California</span>Aggie<span>/status/10044966256</span> CHP <span>told the Aggie] that the stun gun was pointed at the protester</span>, <span>but never fired</span>. An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mode. The CHP subsequently admitted that a taser was used on at least one student. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The Aggie<span>&nbsp;paraphrased the</span> CHP <span>as saying "that the computerized evidence shows beyond any doubt that only one Taser was deployed</span>, <span>and it did not successfully release its charge</span>.<span>"</span> An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mode. <span>["UC Davis Police"] Chief Annette Spicuzza watched the video and the Aggie paraphrased her response as saying "it was unlikely Nadimi was stunned since her visible reaction did not match what one would normally see after a 50,000-volt current hits a target."</span> The CHP subsequently admitted that a taser was used on at least one student. </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-14 20:28:28CovertProfessorchp now admits to taser use, according to the davis enterprise <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The [http://twitter.com/CaliforniaAggie/status/10044966256 CHP <span>has </span>told the Aggie] that the stun gun was pointed at the protester, but never fired. An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mode. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The [http://twitter.com/CaliforniaAggie/status/10044966256 CHP told the Aggie] that the stun gun was pointed at the protester, but never fired. An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mode.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;The CHP subsequently admitted that a taser was used on at least one student.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-11 00:09:58CovertProfessorreply to puttputt <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 240: </td> <td> Line 240: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * As I have said above, I am not too happy with the actions of the protesters, either. But don't judge the worthiness of the issues by the actions of the protesters, who represent only a small fraction of the people affected (who include not just other students, but also faculty and staff). You say, "The UC system is the greatest and most highly regarded public school system in the world. Our degrees are comparable to some of the top private universities in the world" which makes me want to reply "The UC system ''was'' the greatest and most highly regarded public school system in the world. Your degrees ''were'' comparable to some of the top private universities in the world." However, the budget cuts haven't just raised tuition. They have also caused all programs to be cut, and some to be eliminated entirely. They have reduced the number of staff (though layoffs) and reduced the number of faculty (through hiring freezes and slowdowns). All of these things affect the quality of a UC education. I will also point out that having a diverse student body, made up of students from all socio-economic classes is (was?) one of the things that makes (made?) the UC system as great as it is (was?). --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 23:03:26puttputtComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 236: </td> <td> Line 236: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-03-10 22:03:26'' [[nbsp]] I must say that the actions of these protesters only serve to strengthen my resolve against the issues they are protesting against. I'm all for protest and getting to speak your mind, as long as it does not inconvenience me. Blocking roads or inhibiting traffic is perhaps one of the things that irritates me the most (I got stuck back in '06, I think, when students were protesting against Sodexho).<br> + <br> + I understand what these students are protesting about (namely the cost of education), but to be completely frank, our UC degrees are a steal. The UC system is the greatest and most highly regarded public school system in the world. Our degrees are comparable to some of the top private universities in the world. Even after the increases, our tuition is still a steal compared to other institutions. Now, I've heard the argument that education SHOULD be free. However, in the real world, things that SHOULD happen, often can't happen due to limited resources. This is the situation we find ourselves in now, limited resources, and Economics is wholly based on the allocation of resources to maximize utility when resources are limited. But all of this (what I am saying) is pointless. College students are going to protest so that they may feel like they are part of something bigger and fighting for "social justice". It's too bad that life is so much more difficult to poor people, but that is just the world we live in. Blocking traffic (and my life) is not going to make life any easier for them. --["Users/puttputt"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 18:25:42CovertEngineercommunity alert page was cleared... <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 24: </td> <td> Line 24: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - * '''''See ["Community Alert"] for the latest.'''''</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 18:23:18CovertEngineerstill think this order is more organized <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 9: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + =Civil Disobedience and Police Reaction=<br> + Demonstrators were forcibly barred from marching onto ["I-80"], with less-than-lethal weapons deployed and one student arrested. The ["Sacramento Bee" SacBee] confirms that the ["California Highway Patrol"] were authorized to use less than lethal force, including pellet guns, which were used to fire a pepper ball and either rubber bullets (according to ["KCRA"]) or beanbags (according to the Aggie), hitting some people in the legs ([http://www.kcra.com/mostpopular/22738602/detail.html story]). The protests coincided with [http://studentactivism.net/ student protests around the country].<br> + <br> + Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The [http://twitter.com/CaliforniaAggie/status/10044966256 CHP has told the Aggie] that the stun gun was pointed at the protester, but never fired. An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mode.<br> + <br> + ["UC Davis Fire Department" Fire alarms] were pulled repeatedly all over ["campus"] throughout the day. ["Graffiti"] like "Defend Public Education" was spray painted on campus buildings.<br> + <br> + =I-80 Confrontation=<br> + The most notable ["Protests" confrontation] occurred when [http://www.davisenterprise.com/story.php?id=133.0 students moved toward I-80] and the police set up a line with cars and law enforcement armed with crowd control gear ([http://twitpic.com/16mc7j photo]). Fifth year student '''["Laura Mitchell"]''' [http://www.sacbee.com/2010/03/04/2582964/capitol-campus-rallies-carry-message.html was arrested] by Davis Police and Yolo County Sheriff deputies, but the SacBee is reporting that she was cited for grabbing an officer's baton and has been released with charges of resisting arrest, unlawful assembly and failure to disperse.<br> + <br> + The protests were stopped by a line of police just short of the interstate, but similar protests in the Bay Area resulted in the closure of the 880 in Oakland. This just demonstrates once again that Davis always looks lame when trying to imitate Cal. Perhaps Davis should try to be itself and plan more ["Cows" Cow]-themed protests in the future.<br> + <br> + =Aftermath=<br> + The sustainable and affordable student co-op, Davis Student Co-op, was agreed to be saved but the residents would have to pay higher rent. As usual when there is a protest, there was ["March 4, 2010 Public Education protest/Criticism" criticism] and ["March 4, 2010 Public Education protest/Criticism" controversy]. At the same time, the UCD protest received world-wide attention and got people talking about many, many issues. People were awoken from their sleep to ponder the issues facing their lives, with the intention of making things better. And perhaps through the education and learning that took place in the aftermath, people would get closer to solving the problem(s).<br> + <br> + * '''''See ["Community Alert"] for the latest.'''''</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 37: </td> <td> Line 54: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- =Civil Disobedience and Police Reaction=<br> - Demonstrators were forcibly barred from marching onto ["I-80"], with less-than-lethal weapons deployed and one student arrested. The ["Sacramento Bee" SacBee] confirms that the ["California Highway Patrol"] were authorized to use less than lethal force, including pellet guns, which were used to fire a pepper ball and either rubber bullets (according to ["KCRA"]) or beanbags (according to the Aggie), hitting some people in the legs ([http://www.kcra.com/mostpopular/22738602/detail.html story]). The protests coincided with [http://studentactivism.net/ student protests around the country].<br> - <br> - Early in the day on their ["Twitter"] feed, ["the California Aggie"] claimed that the California Highway Patrol was using tear gas on protesters, but has since stepped back from that claim, having contacted the ["UC Davis Police Department"] who confirmed there were no tasers or tear gas used. UCDPD did confirm that officers used [wiki:wikipedia:"Pepper-spray projectile" pepperballs]. Since then, some witnesses have defended their claims of having heard tasers, and one of those people -- an Aggie photographer -- took a [http://twitpic.com/16nof9 photo that appears to show a stun gun in use]. The [http://twitter.com/CaliforniaAggie/status/10044966256 CHP has told the Aggie] that the stun gun was pointed at the protester, but never fired. An AGTV video contradicts this account, clearly showing a Taser being used in drive-stun mode.<br> - <br> - ["UC Davis Fire Department" Fire alarms] were pulled repeatedly all over ["campus"] throughout the day. ["Graffiti"] like "Defend Public Education" was spray painted on campus buildings.<br> - </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 49: </td> <td> Line 59: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - =I-80 Confrontation=<br> - The most notable ["Protests" confrontation] occurred when [http://www.davisenterprise.com/story.php?id=133.0 students moved toward I-80] and the police set up a line with cars and law enforcement armed with crowd control gear ([http://twitpic.com/16mc7j photo]). Fifth year student '''["Laura Mitchell"]''' [http://www.sacbee.com/2010/03/04/2582964/capitol-campus-rallies-carry-message.html was arrested] by Davis Police and Yolo County Sheriff deputies, but the SacBee is reporting that she was cited for grabbing an officer's baton and has been released with charges of resisting arrest, unlawful assembly and failure to disperse.<br> - <br> - The protests were stopped by a line of police just short of the interstate, but similar protests in the Bay Area resulted in the closure of the 880 in Oakland. This just demonstrates once again that Davis always looks lame when trying to imitate Cal. Perhaps Davis should try to be itself and plan more ["Cows" Cow]-themed protests in the future.<br> - <br> - =Aftermath=<br> - The sustainable and affordable student co-op, Davis Student Co-op, was agreed to be saved but the residents would have to pay higher rent. As usual when there is a protest, there was ["March 4, 2010 Public Education protest/Criticism" criticism] and ["March 4, 2010 Public Education protest/Criticism" controversy]. At the same time, the UCD protest received world-wide attention and got people talking about many, many issues. People were awoken from their sleep to ponder the issues facing their lives, with the intention of making things better. And perhaps through the education and learning that took place in the aftermath, people would get closer to solving the problem(s).<br> - <br> - * '''''See ["Community Alert"] for the latest.'''''</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 10:00:05CovertProfessor(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 192: </td> <td> Line 192: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *It's not the same. The Palestinians are ''far'' from blameless here, and indeed, are feeding the very anti-semitism that you claim to want to fight. --cp</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 01:48:13OliviaYnvm, don't want to continue this, pointless <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 180: </td> <td> Line 180: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- * Well for many laboratories that simply is not an option. As it is someone from my lab often has to come in at least one day a weekend because the lab can't be left for more than 24 hours shut down without severely hampering the research. --["Users/OliviaY"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 01:11:43DonShorcorrect tag typo <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 180: </td> <td> Line 180: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Well for many laboratories that simply is not an option. As it is someone from my lab often has to come in at least one day a weekend because the lab can't be left for more than 24 hours shut down without severely hampering the research. --["User<span>e</span>s/OliviaY"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Well for many laboratories that simply is not an option. As it is someone from my lab often has to come in at least one day a weekend because the lab can't be left for more than 24 hours shut down without severely hampering the research. --["Users/OliviaY"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 01:03:40OliviaY <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 180: </td> <td> Line 180: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Well for many laboratories that simply is not an option. As it is someone from my lab often has to come in at least one day a weekend because the lab can't be left for more than 24 hours shut down without severely hampering the research. --["Useres/OliviaY"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 00:55:12JessicaRockwellre Olivia <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 179: </td> <td> Line 179: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *As I've said before, I think the strike should have been for more than one day. I am addressing what you say, that is not disregarding.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 00:48:43OliviaY <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 178: </td> <td> Line 178: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *''' "In order to suspend operations of an entire lab for even one day might require shutting it down for an entire week. That is something many people can not afford to do no matter how much notice is provided. It doesn't make them bad people" ''' I will not engage in more useless banter if you continue to disregard what I say or other pov that are just as valid as your own. Night. --["Users/OliviaY"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 00:42:39JessicaRockwellCP re apartheid of Palestine <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 189: </td> <td> Line 189: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *Your thinking reminds me of how some white suffragists didn't want to join with black suffragists because they didn't want to lose the support of southern voters. Or how some black men didn't want to support women's right to vote. Looking back in history, it is people who wanted universal suffrage, like Fredrick Douglass and Sojourner Truth that were right. And they didn't hold their tongue for fear of losing support. Rather they spoke up, in public, even when times were controversial, even when they were unwelcome. Everyone has their own approach to dealing with people. I am willing to stand up and say I am against anti-Semitism and Israel's apartheid which has created a refugee crisis of 4.7 million Palestinians. How can I make a conscious decision to not discuss what is going on in Palestine? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-10 00:19:43JessicaRockwellreply to olive re working within the system to change the system. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 177: </td> <td> Line 177: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *I support research, but if people are given 2 weeks notice and have an understanding of what is going on, most people should be able to make arrangements for the strike. Working within the status quo....is that how major change was made? Is that how the 8-hour work day came about? Is that how civil rights have come about? For some reason I thought it was because of protests and civil disobedience.... --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-09 23:55:49JessicaRockwelladded to the aftermath section. moved pics around <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> </td> <td> <span>+ [[Image(photo004.jpg, thumbnail, 300, "Strike sign -- ["Users/HarrisonM"]", right)]]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 44: </td> <td> Line 45: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ [[Image(photo011.jpg, thumbnail, 300, "Standoff -- ["Users/HarrisonM"]", right)]]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 54: </td> <td> Line 56: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- The sustainable and affordable student co-op, Davis Student Co-op, was agreed to be saved but the residents would have to pay higher rent.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ The sustainable and affordable student co-op, Davis Student Co-op, was agreed to be saved but the residents would have to pay higher rent. As usual when there is a protest, there was ["March 4, 2010 Public Education protest/Criticism" criticism] and ["March 4, 2010 Public Education protest/Criticism" controversy]. At the same time, the UCD protest received world-wide attention and got people talking about many, many issues. People were awoken from their sleep to ponder the issues facing their lives, with the intention of making things better. And perhaps through the education and learning that took place in the aftermath, people would get closer to solving the problem(s).</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 79: </td> <td> Line 81: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- [[Image(photo004.jpg, thumbnail, 300, "Strike sign -- ["Users/HarrisonM"]")]]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 84: </td> <td> Line 86: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- [[Image(photo011.jpg, thumbnail, 300, "Standoff -- ["Users/HarrisonM"]")]]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-09 17:45:28CarlosBarahonaGeography is not a department. 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Send your opinions to editor at theaggie dot org. Thanks! - Jeremy Ogul, Managing Editor, The California Aggie --["Users/jsogul"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-08 00:50:22CovertProfessorReply to "Myself" <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 219: </td> <td> Line 219: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * See also ["UC Davis Budget Cuts"] --cp</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 23:11:03IDoNotExistPlease see above... <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 217: </td> <td> Line 217: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * See my comments above on why the university is in a budget crisis (although I probably should have added in that the lack of regulation of the financial system was a major contributor, along with an unfunded $1 Trillion dollar war, because they were major contributors to the wider economic issues that helped to cause the more local state-wide ones in the first place. --["Users/IDoNotExist"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 22:48:16Myself <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 213: </td> <td> Line 213: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> I really needed to use the library that day to send an important email for one of my classes, but somebody pulled the fire alarm; we had to evacuate. Luckily, I had my laptop, granted uncharged, and so I thought I'd plug it into the wall of one of the lounges in the MU. Someone pulled the fire alarm again. Then I went around looking for a non-evacuated lecture hall that might have someplace to charge my computer. Hahaha, funny story. Or it would have been, if my education hadn't been threatened by my own fellow students at the time. I was at school non-stop from 8:30am until 6:00pm that day -- getting the most out of my education! By the end of the day, I just wanted to go home and eat a budget-friendly dinner. Oh yeah, and my busline changed, adding an extra 20 minutes to my route home, in order to avoid protesters, blocking the street. I was thinking, "Well, at least I didn't have to go to the emergency room today." It seems, according to this Jessica person, that at least one person would be happy at such a prospect. Better dead with a heart attack than alive with an expensive education... an education that protesters should apparently deny other students of for more than a day, in order to accomplish a shocking story at the end of the day for people to watch on their TVs. The end. <span>&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="</span>http://www.youtube.com/v<span>/</span>3jy2uuU1-vs<span>&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3jy2uuU1-vs&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> I really needed to use the library that day to send an important email for one of my classes, but somebody pulled the fire alarm; we had to evacuate. Luckily, I had my laptop, granted uncharged, and so I thought I'd plug it into the wall of one of the lounges in the MU. Someone pulled the fire alarm again. Then I went around looking for a non-evacuated lecture hall that might have someplace to charge my computer. Hahaha, funny story. Or it would have been, if my education hadn't been threatened by my own fellow students at the time. I was at school non-stop from 8:30am until 6:00pm that day -- getting the most out of my education! By the end of the day, I just wanted to go home and eat a budget-friendly dinner. Oh yeah, and my busline changed, adding an extra 20 minutes to my route home, in order to avoid protesters, blocking the street. I was thinking, "Well, at least I didn't have to go to the emergency room today." It seems, according to this Jessica person, that at least one person would be happy at such a prospect. Better dead with a heart attack than alive with an expensive education... an education that protesters should apparently deny other students of for more than a day, in order to accomplish a shocking story at the end of the day for people to watch on their TVs. The end. <span>&nbsp;</span>http://www.youtube.com/<span>watch?</span>v<span>=</span>3jy2uuU1-vs </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 22:47:17MyselfComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 210: </td> <td> Line 210: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-03-07 21:47:17'' [[nbsp]] This discussion is supposed to be about Stories and Information, so:<br> + "Story":<br> + I really needed to use the library that day to send an important email for one of my classes, but somebody pulled the fire alarm; we had to evacuate. Luckily, I had my laptop, granted uncharged, and so I thought I'd plug it into the wall of one of the lounges in the MU. Someone pulled the fire alarm again. Then I went around looking for a non-evacuated lecture hall that might have someplace to charge my computer. Hahaha, funny story. Or it would have been, if my education hadn't been threatened by my own fellow students at the time. I was at school non-stop from 8:30am until 6:00pm that day -- getting the most out of my education! By the end of the day, I just wanted to go home and eat a budget-friendly dinner. Oh yeah, and my busline changed, adding an extra 20 minutes to my route home, in order to avoid protesters, blocking the street. I was thinking, "Well, at least I didn't have to go to the emergency room today." It seems, according to this Jessica person, that at least one person would be happy at such a prospect. Better dead with a heart attack than alive with an expensive education... an education that protesters should apparently deny other students of for more than a day, in order to accomplish a shocking story at the end of the day for people to watch on their TVs. The end. &lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3jy2uuU1-vs&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3jy2uuU1-vs&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;<br> + <br> + "Information":<br> + Does anyone actually know who is responsible for the budget cuts? Was anyone protesting directly at the source on March 4? Or at least distributing corresponding contact info, or some sort of pertinent information, so that the slightly annoyed passerby might potentially be interested or get involved in a more constructive manner...? --["Users/Myself"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 22:28:31IDoNotExist(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 196: </td> <td> Line 196: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * My personal choices are private, off topic, and not <span>the</span> subject for discussion on the Wiki. --["Users/IDoNotExist"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * My personal choices are private, off topic, and not <span>a</span> subject for discussion on the Wiki. --["Users/IDoNotExist"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 22:20:47TomGarberson+disclaimers on my comments linking to criticism page <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 129: </td> <td> Line 129: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2010-03-06 11:19:42'' [[nbsp]] I thought it was a public education protest. --["Users/TomGarberson"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2010-03-06 11:19:42'' [[nbsp]] I thought it was a public education protest. --["Users/TomGarberson"]<span>&nbsp;(Please see my [http://daviswiki.org/March_4,_2010_Public_Education_protest/Criticism lengthier criticism] for a more complete explanation of my throughts)</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 142: </td> <td> Line 142: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * I'm reminded somewhat of a rally that took place my freshman year here, probably in Spring '03. I lived in ["Tercero B Building"], and right outside, at ["Tercero A Building" Casa Cuauhtémoc], there was a rally about racism and racial inequality in education and that kinda stuff. I thought it was kinda cool, and watched for a while out of the balcony at the east side of the building. They had several excellent speakers. But within about an hour or so, someone got on the bullhorn or microphone and started a chant of "KILL THE WHITEY" that went on for a good 5 or 10 minutes before people finally settled down. The lesson I learned from that is you can have a really well-intentioned group that gets together and turns into a group of raving idiots because one lone rabble rouser with a microphone triggers a mob mentality and turns their goals to shit, making their movement 100% counterproductive. Like that event, I found Thursday's protest to begin with a good message, but by the end of the day, it became obnoxious and counterproductive with no positive contribution to the movement's goals. I hope for the sake of the protesters that it was at least cathartic. --["Users/TomGarberson"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * I'm reminded somewhat of a rally that took place my freshman year here, probably in Spring '03. I lived in ["Tercero B Building"], and right outside, at ["Tercero A Building" Casa Cuauhtémoc], there was a rally about racism and racial inequality in education and that kinda stuff. I thought it was kinda cool, and watched for a while out of the balcony at the east side of the building. They had several excellent speakers. But within about an hour or so, someone got on the bullhorn or microphone and started a chant of "KILL THE WHITEY" that went on for a good 5 or 10 minutes before people finally settled down. The lesson I learned from that is you can have a really well-intentioned group that gets together and turns into a group of raving idiots because one lone rabble rouser with a microphone triggers a mob mentality and turns their goals to shit, making their movement 100% counterproductive. Like that event, I found Thursday's protest to begin with a good message, but by the end of the day, it became obnoxious and counterproductive with no positive contribution to the movement's goals. I hope for the sake of the protesters that it was at least cathartic. --["Users/TomGarberson"]<span>&nbsp;(Please see my [http://daviswiki.org/March_4,_2010_Public_Education_protest/Criticism lengthier criticism] for a more complete explanation of my throughts)</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 203: </td> <td> Line 203: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2010-03-07 16:41:04'' [[nbsp]] Jessica, I'm still hoping to hear how you (or anyone else) feel the activities of the 4th in any way furthered any of the goals expressed above. Your only response in the thread that got moved to the Controversy page was that "the protest was for education." If people had a moral obligation to be out there joining in the protest, surely it must be because it is reasonably likely to have a positive impact on the problems. How so? --["Users/TomGarberson"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2010-03-07 16:41:04'' [[nbsp]] Jessica, I'm still hoping to hear how you (or anyone else) feel the activities of the 4th in any way furthered any of the goals expressed above. Your only response in the thread that got moved to the Controversy page was that "the protest was for education." If people had a moral obligation to be out there joining in the protest, surely it must be because it is reasonably likely to have a positive impact on the problems. How so? --["Users/TomGarberson"]<span>&nbsp;(Please see my [http://daviswiki.org/March_4,_2010_Public_Education_protest/Criticism lengthier criticism] for a more complete explanation of my throughts)</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 21:29:56OliviaYComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 206: </td> <td> Line 206: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-03-07 20:29:56'' [[nbsp]] SNL skit about the protests...hahahaha http://www.hulu.com/collections/392/132877<br> + <br> + Where my frisbee at? --["Users/OliviaY"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 20:06:48EdWinsComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 204: </td> <td> Line 204: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-03-07 19:06:48'' [[nbsp]] (replying to the thread above about Palestine/Israel). Alright...but this wasn't World Protest Day or "Protest about every injustice you care about day." It was supposed to be about budget cuts and fundin to the UCs/CSU. Tacking on a million other issues really weakens the whole thing, as it merely invites anyone and everything onto the streets. This has nothing to do with their merits as causes, but couple that with all the on campus shenanigans and it really seems more like a day of random chaos with noclear message: just agnst. I'm also in the sciences, and if my lab buildings fire alarm was pulled without cause....well, few things would so quickly piss off a couple hundred grad students. I do care a ton about budgetary issues and funding, but the more that got added to this page, the less in favor of this mass protest I'm becomming. The cause is one thing, the actions taken in it's name (and apparently in the name of lots of other issues) are another. --["Users/EdWins"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 20:04:40CovertProfessor(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 176: </td> <td> Line 176: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * The situations are not even close to the same, but I'm not going to debate the issue with you here. If you're willing to risk contributing to anti-semitism while people are plastering signs around campus that represent millions of Jews who died in gas chambers or were starved to death -- well, just don't expect me to join you. And many others who would have otherwise been sympathetic to your cause won't join you either. --cp</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 19:51:25JessicaRockwellCP re Palestine. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 175: </td> <td> Line 175: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I am strongly opposed to Anti-Semitism, but I am also strongly opposed to the Israeli Ambassador being invited to speak at UCI and further spread his government's policy towards aggression on Palestine. The defense of Palestinian people against Israel's government is the same defense that was necessary for the Native Americans against their colonizers and the same defense necessary for the Native Americans today, who continue to be on reservations with high levels of unemployment, alcoholism, suicide, etc. It is very much appropriate to be brought up at a protest of that kind.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 19:26:11CovertProfessorlink to new page <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 6: </td> <td> Line 6: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''March 4, 2010''' was originally a day of action to ["UC Davis Budget Cuts" defend public education] but involved a myriad of issues sparked by events leading up to March 4. The struggle was in solidarity with actions taking place on a state-wide, nation-wide, and international level in support of reforming education in order to improve its quality and accessibility for all. At UCD, protesters consisting mainly of ["students"], joined at AM at and began . There was also suppose to be action at elementary schools from 8-8:30 a.m. and from 7:45-8:15 a.m. at junior and high schools where Davis Teachers Association members leafleted to keep more cuts to education from happening. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''March 4, 2010''' was originally a day of action to ["UC Davis Budget Cuts" defend public education] but involved a myriad of issues sparked by events leading up to March 4. The struggle was in solidarity with actions taking place on a state-wide, nation-wide, and international level in support of reforming education in order to improve its quality and accessibility for all. At UCD, protesters consisting mainly of ["students"], joined at AM at and began . There was also suppose to be action at elementary schools from 8-8:30 a.m. and from 7:45-8:15 a.m. at junior and high schools where Davis Teachers Association members leafleted to keep more cuts to education from happening.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;See the ["March 2, 2010 Letter from the UC Davis Organizing Committee"] for background on reasons for the protest, proposed group actions, and various suggestions for how faculty might respond to the strike.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 19:16:23CovertProfessor(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 174: </td> <td> Line 174: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I am saying that they should be careful that the protesters don't inadvertently feed anti-semitism. There have been swastikas on campus within the last week. You don't know who put them there and neither do I, but in my opinion this is hardly the climate to risk stirring up more anti-semitic sentiment. The situation in the Middle East is extremely complex and is not well-served by simple protest slogans. I am also wondering why Israel is the only aggressor listed, when there are many world-wide aggressors, including the Palestinians themselves. (Note: I am ''not'' suggesting that you add to the list on this page! I think issues such as Israel already detract from the central message).</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 19:11:08CovertProfessor(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 172: </td> <td> Line 172: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Note the multiple definitions for the same word. A classroom is closest to #4, whereas a protest is closest to #1 or #7.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 18:52:27DonShortrying to make sense of paragraph <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 164: </td> <td> Line 164: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * What you seem to not understand is that there is already enough food in the world to feed everyone. [http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm link] We don't need to do further research to solve that problem. We need to change the way the world is functioning, beginning with on campus.<span>&nbsp;--</span> As I said, not interested in getting into a lengthy debate. You want to change the entire functioning of the world and that quite simply is not something I'm interested in arguing. I could say well then, stop all the research! Or I could let some people fight to change the status quo, while I work within it. I don't care which way the problem is solved, only that it is. If your method doesn't work as quickly as mine, then why must I be in the wrong to do it my way or vice versa? I will not debate this anymore since you seem to disregard anyone with ideas that differ from yours.--["Users/OliviaY"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * What you seem to not understand is that there is already enough food in the world to feed everyone. [http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm link] We don't need to do further research to solve that problem. We need to change the way the world is functioning, beginning with on campus.<span><br> + *</span> As I said, not interested in getting into a lengthy debate. You want to change the entire functioning of the world and that quite simply is not something I'm interested in arguing. I could say well then, stop all the research! Or I could let some people fight to change the status quo, while I work within it. I don't care which way the problem is solved, only that it is. If your method doesn't work as quickly as mine, then why must I be in the wrong to do it my way or vice versa? I will not debate this anymore since you seem to disregard anyone with ideas that differ from yours.--["Users/OliviaY"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 18:52:20hankim(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 160: </td> <td> Line 160: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Dumping excess food onto developing nations would destroy the economies of those nations. I agree with your subsidies stance though, because the subsidies basically charge taxpayers to rob them of better deals (sorry for going off-topic). --["Users/hankim"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 18:46:26JessicaRockwellCP, i don't know if this all makes sense.....i'm pretty exhausted. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 157: </td> <td> Line 157: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I think it's good you spoke about the subject in class and didn't penalize those who didn't attend. That's way more than any of the Professors I've had has done. There were many times when in class we'd talk about an issue of injustice (such as homelessness or unemployment) and I would mention a struggle on campus in common with those being discussed, and the teacher wouldn't talk about it. How is it that we can be taught about injustices going on in the world, and when there is one happening in our own lives we do nothing? How can it be that we learn about the horrors of US military imperialism, and yet we sit back silently as it continues to go on under Obama and his Democrats in Honduras, Yemen, Afghanistan, Venezuela, South Korea, Japan, Germany, Italy..... The US government would rather cut funding to education than cut back on military spending. The US government (on a state and federal level) would rather pay for having a war on drugs than pay for education. On the federal level, the US government is using tax dollars to pay for a Chaplain. Why can't churches be taxed? Yet we let education go down. On the UC-level, administrators are discussing cut backs and increasing their own personal salaries at the same meeting. On the UC Davis level, ASUCD spent $5,000 to buy a fire-truck rather than give the money to expanding AS Papers, and now AS Papers is dead. On the UC Donors level, they need to get their priorities straightened out. Students need to wake up to the reality of the situation before them and how their actions are effecting people. So if you're a teacher, keep educating the people around you about the injustices happening on campus, maybe cancel class, but at least make it so no one is punished for doing so. Maybe then, the students can explore other ways of solving the problem(s). And hey, maybe the grad students, faculty and staff can help them in finding the way!</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 18:08:43IDoNotExistNone of your business... <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 189: </td> <td> Line 189: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * My personal choices are private, off topic, and not the subject for discussion on the Wiki. --["Users/IDoNotExist"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 17:41:04TomGarbersonComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 194: </td> <td> Line 194: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2010-03-07 16:41:04'' [[nbsp]] Jessica, I'm still hoping to hear how you (or anyone else) feel the activities of the 4th in any way furthered any of the goals expressed above. Your only response in the thread that got moved to the Controversy page was that "the protest was for education." If people had a moral obligation to be out there joining in the protest, surely it must be because it is reasonably likely to have a positive impact on the problems. How so? --["Users/TomGarberson"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 17:26:24OliviaY <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 162: </td> <td> Line 162: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * What you seem to not understand is that there is already enough food in the world to feed everyone. [http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm link] We don't need to do further research to solve that problem. We need to change the way the world is functioning, beginning with on campus. </td> <td> <span>+</span> * What you seem to not understand is that there is already enough food in the world to feed everyone. [http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm link] We don't need to do further research to solve that problem. We need to change the way the world is functioning, beginning with on campus.<span>&nbsp;-- As I said, not interested in getting into a lengthy debate. You want to change the entire functioning of the world and that quite simply is not something I'm interested in arguing. I could say well then, stop all the research! Or I could let some people fight to change the status quo, while I work within it. I don't care which way the problem is solved, only that it is. If your method doesn't work as quickly as mine, then why must I be in the wrong to do it my way or vice versa? I will not debate this anymore since you seem to disregard anyone with ideas that differ from yours.--["Users/OliviaY"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 17:22:37JessicaRockwellOlivia, there is enough food in the world to feed everyone. research won't help. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 162: </td> <td> Line 162: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * What you seem to not understand is that there is already enough food in the world to feed everyone. [http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm link] We don't need to do further research to solve that problem. We need to change the way the world is functioning, beginning with on campus.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 17:10:32OliviaY <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 161: </td> <td> Line 161: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Students such as myself who choose to major in the sciences have laboratory resources where they get to work on these problems by interning/volunteering/getting employed. As for research and world hunger, I could go into a lengthy explanation of my support for GM foods as a vehicle to solve world hunger but anticipate that would result in both a lengthy debate and would diverge a great deal from the topic of this page. The point is that there are other causes people may choose to fight, in fact there are so many in this world that no one person can dedicate themselves or their time to them all. To condemn someone for not supporting one because they have something else they are working for (even if it is something as simple as working, to make money to pay for meals for their child) is very one-sided. --["Users/OliviaY"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:55:55JessicaRockwellre IDNE. What are you going to do about it? <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 185: </td> <td> Line 185: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * 1) Apparently, not everyone agrees that it is important. 2) Research needs very long term support, but people in office have much shorter term goals. 3) By law, a 2/3 supermajority is required to pass a budget. 4) The republicans in CA run on a platform of preventing any tax increases, vote as a block, and make up &gt; 1/3 of the legislature, therefore any tax increase that would pay for CA's budget problems is very difficult to pass. 5) The governor also refuses to allow any tax increase. 6) State revenue has fallen because the economy is in disastrous shape right now, therefore the government lacks the money to fall current service levels, therefore it must cut something. Unfortunately, they chose to cut funding for universities - perhaps because students vote in much lower percentages than other groups. 7) Other forms of funding increases, such as property taxes that actually correlate to the value of a home, and that are used to fund pre-college education, are banned by the CA constitution. 8) CA commits a huge percentage of its funds through propositions voted on by its citizens. Those funding commitments have the force of law, but most people voting on them do not understand the fiscal implications of the propositions. (In fact, they are often written in such a way that even lawyers have a hard time correctly interpreting the language!) That removes decisions about much of CA's spending from the people who actually understand where CA's entire budget is going, or what its overall needs are. 10) It was much more than the universities that were cut - although I personally think that cutting university funding was a *terrible* idea. --["Users/IDoNotExist"] </td> <td> <span>+ </span> * 1) Apparently, not everyone agrees that it is important. 2) Research needs very long term support, but people in office have much shorter term goals. 3) By law, a 2/3 supermajority is required to pass a budget. 4) The republicans in CA run on a platform of preventing any tax increases, vote as a block, and make up &gt; 1/3 of the legislature, therefore any tax increase that would pay for CA's budget problems is very difficult to pass. 5) The governor also refuses to allow any tax increase. 6) State revenue has fallen because the economy is in disastrous shape right now, therefore the government lacks the money to fall current service levels, therefore it must cut something. Unfortunately, they chose to cut funding for universities - perhaps because students vote in much lower percentages than other groups. 7) Other forms of funding increases, such as property taxes that actually correlate to the value of a home, and that are used to fund pre-college education, are banned by the CA constitution. 8) CA commits a huge percentage of its funds through propositions voted on by its citizens. Those funding commitments have the force of law, but most people voting on them do not understand the fiscal implications of the propositions. (In fact, they are often written in such a way that even lawyers have a hard time correctly interpreting the language!) That removes decisions about much of CA's spending from the people who actually understand where CA's entire budget is going, or what its overall needs are. 10) It was much more than the universities that were cut - although I personally think that cutting university funding was a *terrible* idea. --["Users/IDoNotExist"]<span><br> + * If education and research are so important, and you know the reasons for why its getting it, what are you doing so its funding isn't cut? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:52:02JessicaRockwellOlivia and CP <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 160: </td> <td> Line 160: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I think dialogue is also good, like CP said they did. What resources do students have to solve these solutions? And how is research helping to solve world hunger? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 165: </td> <td> Line 166: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Crowd: 1. a large number of persons gathered closely together; throng: a crowd of angry people. 2. any large number of persons. 3. any group or set of persons with something in common: The restaurant attracts a theater crowd. 4. audience; attendance: Opening night drew a good crowd. 5. the common people; the masses: He feels superior to the crowd. 6. a large number of things gathered or considered together. 7. Sociology. a temporary gathering of people responding to common stimuli and engaged in any of various forms of collective behavior.<br> + * Issue of protesting the government of Israel: I really don't understand your arguments. Are you saying people shouldn't protest against Israel because they might be viewed as anti-semites and there are other issues that are more important?</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:27:30IDoNotExistdeconflicted, hopefully <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 181: </td> <td> Line 181: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ----- /!\ Edit conflict! 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Your version: -----</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 181: </td> <td> Line 182: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * 1) Apparently, not everyone agrees that it is important. 2) Research needs very long term support, but people in office have much shorter term goals. 3) By law, a 2/3 supermajority is required to pass a budget. 4) The republicans in CA run on a platform of preventing any tax increases, vote as a block, and make up &gt; 1/3 of the legislature, therefore any tax increase that would pay for CA's budget problems is very difficult to pass. 5) The governor also refuses to allow any tax increase. 6) State revenue has fallen because the economy is in disastrous shape right now, therefore the government lacks the money to fall current service levels, therefore it must cut something. Unfortunately, they chose to cut funding for universities - perhaps because students vote in much lower percentages than other groups. 7) Other forms of funding increases, such as property taxes that actually correlate to the value of a home, and that are used to fund pre-college education, are banned by the CA constitution. 8) CA commits a huge percentage of its funds through propositions voted on by its citizens. Those funding commitments have the force of law, but most people voting on them do not understand the fiscal implications of the propositions. (In fact, they are often written in such a way that even lawyers have a hard time correctly interpreting the language!) That removes decisions about much of CA's spending from the people who actually understand where CA's entire budget is going, or what its overall needs are. 10) It was much more than the universities that were cut - although I personally think that cutting university funding was a *terrible* idea. --["Users/IDoNotExist"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:21:00OliviaY <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 172: </td> <td> Line 172: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> *Olivia, I also think it wasn't managed in the right way. But I'm also not going to say strikes=mobs and then make a joke about scabs.<span>&nbsp;</span> --["Users/JessicaRockwell"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> *Olivia, I also think it wasn't managed in the right way. But I'm also not going to say strikes=mobs and then make a joke about scabs.<span><br> +</span> --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]<span><br> + *"Strikes turning into mobs has happened in the past on this campus and I anticipated the same here." It is a sad world indeed when we can't recognize the prejudice against poor words like scab. --["Users/OliviaY"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:18:07JessicaRockwellolivia, i also think it was managed wrong. but i don't equate strikes with mobs. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 172: </td> <td> Line 172: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *Olivia, I also think it wasn't managed in the right way. But I'm also not going to say strikes=mobs and then make a joke about scabs. --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 177: </td> <td> Line 178: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> <span>*</span>* If education and research is as important as you claim, then why is the government cutting its funding? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * If education and research is as important as you claim, then why is the government cutting its funding? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:12:54JessicaRockwellIdonotexist, if educ and research are so important, why is gov cutting funding? <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 177: </td> <td> Line 177: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ** If education and research is as important as you claim, then why is the government cutting its funding? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:08:46OliviaY <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 171: </td> <td> Line 171: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *I have only been discussing why I oppose the way in which these strikes are managed and the opinion of people such as yourself that if "you aren't with us, in the manner which the all-powerful WE has chosen as the only appropriate action to be taken...you are against us." To assume an opinion of mine about strikes in all circumstances, well you know what they say about ass-umptions. --["Users/OliviaY"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:06:49IDoNotExist(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 158: </td> <td> Line 158: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * I think the school should have been shut down for more than one day. The strike should have been on-going. No, people couldn't go and protest anything they want. Pro-Nazi people protesting against the queer community, people of color, Jews, and communists would not have been welcomed. People doing research to solve the problems of AIDS and World Hunger? How about the US give all the excess food it has to those starving? Or how about the US government stop subsidizing agriculture which is driving agricultural prices on the world market down, leaving people in poorer countries unable to compete with the US, forcing them to go into further poverty? How about western drug companies lower the high prices for the HIV cocktails they have? Or better yet, not have copyright on HIV drugs. Once India and Brazil threatened to make their own HIV cocktails, the drug companies lowered their prices. Sure, there is some research of value going on, such as with cancer. But 2 out of 3 research issues going on already have solutions. --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]<span>&nbsp;</span> So people should scream and shout for more than one day demanding these solutions, rather than doing what they can with their own resources to solve it. How very...open minded and considerate of you. If this is the kind of mentality I could expect to meet in these strikes I am glad I did not take part.--["Users/OliviaY"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * I think the school should have been shut down for more than one day. The strike should have been on-going. No, people couldn't go and protest anything they want. Pro-Nazi people protesting against the queer community, people of color, Jews, and communists would not have been welcomed. People doing research to solve the problems of AIDS and World Hunger? How about the US give all the excess food it has to those starving? Or how about the US government stop subsidizing agriculture which is driving agricultural prices on the world market down, leaving people in poorer countries unable to compete with the US, forcing them to go into further poverty? How about western drug companies lower the high prices for the HIV cocktails they have? Or better yet, not have copyright on HIV drugs. Once India and Brazil threatened to make their own HIV cocktails, the drug companies lowered their prices. Sure, there is some research of value going on, such as with cancer. But 2 out of 3 research issues going on already have solutions. --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]<span><br> + *</span> So people should scream and shout for more than one day demanding these solutions, rather than doing what they can with their own resources to solve it. How very...open minded and considerate of you. If this is the kind of mentality I could expect to meet in these strikes I am glad I did not take part.--["Users/OliviaY"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:05:37IDoNotExist(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 174: </td> <td> Line 174: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> * Jessica: Your assumption is that everyone on campus agrees with the ideas behind the strike, agrees with your chosen method of carrying it out, and agrees with the combined goals of the crowd/mob/whatever you want to call it. None of those are likely to be true. You are also assuming that everyone on the campus thinks that the most important thing that they can do with their lives is participate in a strike. I would imagine that many students would be upset if their classes got canceled because their professors chose to strike. The professors would be upset if their researchers decided not to do their research because of it. The vet and med students certainly can't walk out on their patients! And as Olivia pointed out, there is a lot of research here that can't simply be stopped and started on a whim. Biology experiments often take weeks or months, and could be ruined if not properly run every day. Many grad students in chemistry and physics are quite literally unable to get away from their labs, because their experiments would fail. Believe it or not, these people are working on schedules that are important for all sorts of reasons. Shutting down the university would be incredibly expensive, and would waste thousands or millions of dollars in research funds. It would delay results that may greatly benefit society. And this would happen even if you give people advance notice. And calling someone a scab, or any other name, for not participating in a strike is not only unfair, but incredibly presumptuous. Did they *agree* to participate in a strike? One can hardly break a strike when one did not agree to support it in the first place. It's up to everyone to decide if the issues being discussed are important to them, and if, when, and how they wish to participate. --["Users/IDoNotExist"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Jessica: Your assumption is that everyone on campus agrees with the ideas behind the strike, agrees with your chosen method of carrying it out, and agrees with the combined goals of the crowd/mob/whatever you want to call it. None of those are likely to be true. You are also assuming that everyone on the campus thinks that the most important thing that they can do with their lives is participate in a strike. I would imagine that many students would be upset if their classes got canceled because their professors chose to strike. The professors would be upset if their researchers decided not to do their research because of it. The vet and med students certainly can't walk out on their patients! And as Olivia pointed out, there is a lot of research here that can't simply be stopped and started on a whim. Biology experiments often take weeks or months, and could be ruined if not properly run every day. Many grad students in chemistry and physics are quite literally unable to get away from their labs, because their experiments would fail. Believe it or not, these people are working on schedules that are important for all sorts of reasons. Shutting down the university would be incredibly expensive, and would waste thousands or millions of dollars in research funds. It would delay results that may greatly benefit society. And this would happen even if you give people advance notice. And calling someone a scab, or any other name, for not participating in a strike is not only unfair, but incredibly presumptuous. Did they *agree* to participate in a strike? One can hardly break a strike when one did not agree to support it in the first place. It's up to everyone to decide if the issues being discussed are important to them, and if, when, and how they wish to participate. --["Users/IDoNotExist"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:05:25IDoNotExist(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 174: </td> <td> Line 174: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> * Jessica: Your assumption is that everyone on campus agrees with the ideas behind the strike, agrees with your chosen method of carrying it out, and agrees with the combined goals of the crowd/mob/whatever you want to call it. None of those are likely to be true. You are also assuming that everyone on the campus thinks that the most important thing that they can do with their lives is participate in a strike. I would imagine that many students would be upset if their classes got canceled because their professors chose to strike. The professors would be upset if their researchers decided not to do their research because of it. The vet and med students certainly can't walk out on their patients! And as Olivia pointed out, there is a lot of research here that can't simply be stopped and started on a whim. Biology experiments often take weeks or months, and could be ruined if not properly run every day. Many grad students in chemistry and physics are quite literally unable to get away from their labs, because their experiments would fail. Believe it or not, these people are working on schedules that are important for all sorts of reasons. Shutting down the university would be incredibly expensive, and would waste thousands or millions of dollars in research funds. It would delay results that may greatly benefit society. And this would happen even if you give people advance notice. And calling someone a scab, or any other name, for not participating in a strike is not only unfair, but incredibly presumptuous. Did they *agree* to participate in a strike? One can hardly break a strike when one did not agree to support it in the first place. It's up to everyone to decide if the issues being discussed are important to them, and if, when, and how they wish to participate. --["Users/IDoNotExist"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Jessica: Your assumption is that everyone on campus agrees with the ideas behind the strike, agrees with your chosen method of carrying it out, and agrees with the combined goals of the crowd/mob/whatever you want to call it. None of those are likely to be true. You are also assuming that everyone on the campus thinks that the most important thing that they can do with their lives is participate in a strike. I would imagine that many students would be upset if their classes got canceled because their professors chose to strike. The professors would be upset if their researchers decided not to do their research because of it. The vet and med students certainly can't walk out on their patients! And as Olivia pointed out, there is a lot of research here that can't simply be stopped and started on a whim. Biology experiments often take weeks or months, and could be ruined if not properly run every day. Many grad students in chemistry and physics are quite literally unable to get away from their labs, because their experiments would fail. Believe it or not, these people are working on schedules that are important for all sorts of reasons. Shutting down the university would be incredibly expensive, and would waste thousands or millions of dollars in research funds. It would delay results that may greatly benefit society. And this would happen even if you give people advance notice. And calling someone a scab, or any other name, for not participating in a strike is not only unfair, but incredibly presumptuous. Did they *agree* to participate in a strike? One can hardly break a strike when one did not agree to support it in the first place. It's up to everyone to decide if the issues being discussed are important to them, and if, when, and how they wish to participate. --["Users/IDoNotExist"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> March 4, 2010 Public Education protesthttp://daviswiki.org/March_4%2C_2010_Public_Education_protest2010-03-07 16:05:04JessicaRockwellOlivia, please clarify your stance <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for March 4, 2010 Public Education protest<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 169: </td> <td> Line 169: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ *Well, based on the things you've written today, you appear to be very against striking. And you still are hesitant to say you support some strikes. So can you please clarify your stance?</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>