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SaulSugarman — 2009-02-25 08:13:35

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- Beyond that, Cristina sounds a bit sexist and homophobic, considering she ruled out male prostitutes in their entirety, not to mention lesbian prostitutes. What, Christina, they're not good enough to be considered part of a moral dilemma? Or is that stacking a moral dilemma on a moral dilemma? -- ["Users/SaulSugarman"]	+ Beyond that, Cristina sounds a bit sexist and homophobic, considering she ruled out male prostitutes in their entirety, not to mention lesbian prostitutes. What, Christina, they're not good enough to be considered part of a moral dilemma? Or is that stacking a moral dilemma on a moral dilemma? -- SS

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StevenDaubert — 2009-01-31 08:45:19

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	+ * It only took the Bee nine days to pick up on this, they make references to three (3) other potential massage parlors in town.

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ElleWeber — 2009-01-26 11:06:44

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- '''Prostitution''' is the act of accepting money in exchange for engaging in ["sex" sexual activities]. It is currently ["illegal in Davis"] and the rest of the state of California. However, illicit activities do take place in Davis. Some students pay for their ["Move to D1" steep tuition costs], rent and other living expenses by providing sexual services for money, primarily to people from out of town.	+ '''Prostitution''' is the act of accepting money in exchange for engaging in ["sex" sexual activities]. It is currently ["illegal in Davis"] and the rest of ["California"]. However, illicit activities do take place in Davis. Some students pay for their ["Move to D1" steep tuition costs], rent and other living expenses by providing sexual services for money, primarily to people from out of town.
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- The nearest locality that has legal prostitution is a mere few hours away by car near ["Reno"], Nevada. The Old Bridge Ranch and Wild Horse Canyon Resort are just over the border, and several other legal brothels lie further on in the state. (Prostitution is legal in all Nevada counties excluding Clark County [including Las Vegas], Washoe County [including Reno], Carson City, Douglas County, Lincoln County and Eureka County. This basically means, all the inhabited places.)	+ The nearest locality that has legal prostitution is a mere few hours away by car near ["Reno"], Nevada. The Old Bridge Ranch and Wild Horse Canyon Resort are just over the border, and several other legal brothels lie further on in the state. Prostitution is legal in all Nevada counties excluding Clark County [including Las Vegas], Washoe County [including Reno], Carson City, Douglas County, Lincoln County and Eureka County. This basically means, all the inhabited places.
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- The nearest place to reliably find "ladies of the night" is [http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/local_government/story/13386995p-14228570c.html Stockton Blvd, Broadway,] and along the American and Sacramento rivers in ["Sacramento"].	+ The nearest place to reliably find local "ladies of the night" is [http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/local_government/story/13386995p-14228570c.html Stockton Blvd, Broadway,] and along the American and Sacramento rivers in ["Sacramento"].
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- ==Qualms== - The laws surrounding '''Prostitution''' in California creates a moral dilemma for some, but one that is more open to debate in the ["Davis Politics" political climate] of Davis. Some feel that paying for sex cheapens the whole experience of sex, often removing even the semblance of love from the encounter, however, others make the argument that it is actually an empowering experience for the sex worker, as the sex worker is actually receiving a fair payment for services performed -- in contrast to some people who put out all the time without receiving getting anything in return (a common senario of un-fulfilling, longstanding relationships, such as marriage). These beliefs and qualms about exchanging money for physical pleasure are influenced by social norms (many of which are directly imported from earlier, more misogynistic days) and ["Spiritual Organizations" religious beliefs].	+ ==Qualms and Debates== + The laws surrounding prostitution in California creates a moral dilemma for some, but one that is more open to debate in the ["Davis Politics" political climate] of Davis. Some feel that paying for sex cheapens the whole experience of sex, often removing even the semblance of love from the encounter, however, others make the argument that it is actually an empowering experience for the sex worker, as the sex worker is actually receiving a fair payment for services performed -- in contrast to some people who put out all the time without receiving getting anything in return (a common senario of un-fulfilling, longstanding relationships, such as marriage). These beliefs and qualms about exchanging money for physical pleasure are influenced by social norms (many of which are directly imported from earlier, more misogynistic days) and ["Spiritual Organizations" religious beliefs].
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- ====The day before ["Valentines Day"], ["2006"], the following ad was spotted on ["Craigslist"]:====	+ ====The day before ["Valentine's Day"], ["2006"], the following ad was spotted on ["Craigslist"]:====

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ElleWeber — 2009-01-26 11:03:43

+recent allegations and some basics. This page needs prettifying.

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- In spite of Prostitution possibly being the oldest profession, it is currently ["illegal in Davis"], as in the rest of the state of California, but illicit activities do take place in the night in Davis. Some students pay for their ["Move to D1" steep tuition costs] and rent and other living expenses by providing sexual services, primarily to people from out of town.	+ '''Prostitution''' is the act of accepting money in exchange for engaging in ["sex" sexual activities]. It is currently ["illegal in Davis"] and the rest of the state of California. However, illicit activities do take place in Davis. Some students pay for their ["Move to D1" steep tuition costs], rent and other living expenses by providing sexual services for money, primarily to people from out of town.
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	+ Prostitution sometimes occurs in Davis. Here are local stories and allegations of prostitution in Davis.
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- The day before Valentines Day, 2006, the following ad was spotted on Craigslist:	+ ====The day before ["Valentines Day"], ["2006"], the following ad was spotted on ["Craigslist"]:====
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	+ + ====Allegations of Prostitution in Local Massage Parlors==== + * On January 22, ["2009"], the owner of ["Spring 380"] was arrested on charges of prostitution. An article from the ["Davis Enterprise"] reporting the event is on ["Massage Services"].

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JasonAller — 2008-09-13 09:49:32

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- I am available to provide counseling - feel free to email me at [[MailTo(starbaby5 AT hotmail DOT com)]] and we can chat and I can help you find another way out if you would like that, or just give you support and a place to vent. I graduated awhile ago and no longer live in Davis, so nothing you say to me will get around anywhere. -- ["CristinaDeptula"]	+ I am available to provide counseling - feel free to email me at [[MailTo(starbaby5 AT hotmail DOT com)]] and we can chat and I can help you find another way out if you would like that, or just give you support and a place to vent. I graduated awhile ago and no longer live in Davis, so nothing you say to me will get around anywhere. -- ["Users/CristinaDeptula"]
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- Beyond that, Cristina sounds a bit sexist and homophobic, considering she ruled out male prostitutes in their entirety, not to mention lesbian prostitutes. What, Christina, they're not good enough to be considered part of a moral dilemma? Or is that stacking a moral dilemma on a moral dilemma? -- ["SaulSugarman"]	+ Beyond that, Cristina sounds a bit sexist and homophobic, considering she ruled out male prostitutes in their entirety, not to mention lesbian prostitutes. What, Christina, they're not good enough to be considered part of a moral dilemma? Or is that stacking a moral dilemma on a moral dilemma? -- ["Users/SaulSugarman"]

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PxlAted — 2008-06-09 14:09:08

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- Prostitutes may have STDs (although anyone else you sleep with may as well). This is mainly an issue when sex workers are not adequately screened for STD's and STI's, in an unregulated environment such as California. Many sex workers are regularly tested.	+ Prostitutes may have STDs (although anyone else you sleep with may as well). This is mainly an issue when sex workers are not adequately screened for STD's and STI's, in an unregulated environment such as California. Many sex workers regularly get tested.

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PxlAted — 2008-06-09 14:08:52

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- Prostitutes may have STDs (although anyone else you sleep with may as well).	+ Prostitutes may have STDs (although anyone else you sleep with may as well). This is mainly an issue when sex workers are not adequately screened for STD's and STI's, in an unregulated environment such as California. Many sex workers are regularly tested.

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PxlAted — 2008-06-09 14:05:19

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PxlAted — 2008-06-09 14:05:04

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PxlAted — 2008-06-09 14:02:20

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- Prostitution is ["illegal in Davis"], as in the rest of the state of California, but illicit activities do take place in the night in Davis. Some students pay for their ["Move to D1" steep tuition costs] and rent and other living expenses by providing sexual services, primarily to people from out of town.	+ In spite of Prostitution possibly being the oldest profession, it is currently ["illegal in Davis"], as in the rest of the state of California, but illicit activities do take place in the night in Davis. Some students pay for their ["Move to D1" steep tuition costs] and rent and other living expenses by providing sexual services, primarily to people from out of town. + + Not surprisingly, many contemporary feminists see little difference between the role a wife plays and that of a sex worker paid for hire. + + + ==History== + Prostitution has a long and noble legacy, one that began hundreds of thousands of years ago among our prehistoric ancestors. Indeed, sex was not only the oldest commodity, it is also the profession on which both monogamous marriage and human societies were originally founded.

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PxlAted — 2008-06-09 13:52:38

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PxlAted — 2008-06-09 13:51:54

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- '''Prostitution''' creates a moral dilemma, but one that is more open to debate in the ["Davis Politics" political climate] of Davis. Many feel that it cheapens the whole purpose of sex and marriage, and degrades women whose role is to please men. However, others make the argument that it is actually empowering to women, as women use their bodies to exploit men's pocketbooks -- in contrast to a history of exploitation of women by men. These beliefs are influenced by social norms (many of which are directly imported from earlier, more misogynistic days) and ["Spiritual Organizations" religious beliefs].	+ The laws surrounding '''Prostitution''' in California creates a moral dilemma for some, but one that is more open to debate in the ["Davis Politics" political climate] of Davis. Some feel that paying for sex cheapens the whole experience of sex, often removing even the semblance of love from the encounter, however, others make the argument that it is actually an empowering experience for the sex worker, as the sex worker is actually receiving a fair payment for services performed -- in contrast to some people who put out all the time without receiving getting anything in return (a common senario of un-fulfilling, longstanding relationships, such as marriage). These beliefs and qualms about exchanging money for physical pleasure are influenced by social norms (many of which are directly imported from earlier, more misogynistic days) and ["Spiritual Organizations" religious beliefs].

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ElleWeber — 2008-06-09 08:05:24

wording change to get rid of snobbery

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- Prostitutes are known to, well, collect STDs.	+ Prostitutes may have STDs (although anyone else you sleep with may as well).

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BrentLaabs — 2006-11-22 00:18:17

question about west sac law

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	+ * Does anyone know what happened with this? It's allegedly past September now. + + [http://sfbay.craigslist.org/ Craigslist] is also about as good a place as any to find a prostitute.

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PhilipNeustrom — 2006-07-10 19:29:19

keeping hilarious CL posting

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	+ + ===Male Prostitution=== + + The day before Valentines Day, 2006, the following ad was spotted on Craigslist: + + '''''Attractive Indian Male college student for hire! - 21''' + + I am a 21 year old Indian male attending UC Davis. I am currently experiencing financial difficulties and have come to this as a last resort. I would be more than happy to accompany a woman and ensure her complete and total satisfaction. All I ask is $60/30 minutes, $100/hour, and $80 for each additional hour up to a total of 8 hours. + + Keep in mind that you are paying for my time and my time only. Anything else is purely between 2 consentual adults. + I look forward to hearing from you!'' + + Attached were two pictures, presumably enough for enterprising students to figure out the identity and shame the enterprising strumpet in public, 18th-century style.

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SteveOstrowski — 2006-07-10 19:19:55

Broken Link

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- We should have a hotline for anonymous counseling about harm reduction and alternatives for people considering selling themselves in some way. No one should have to go this route because of economic necessity.	+ We should have a hotline for anonymous counseling about harm reduction and alternatives for people considering selling themselves in some way. No one should have to go this route because of economic necessity.
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- If you're lonely, don't know many people in town, kind of a loner but need some good (or maybe just some) sex, prostitution should be a pretty consistent bet.	+ If you're lonely, don't know many people in town, kind of a loner but need some good (or maybe just some) sex, prostitution should be a pretty consistent bet.
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- - ==Male Prostitution== - - The day before Valentines Day, 2006, the [http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ers/133751344.html following ad was spotted on Craigslist]: - - '''''Attractive Indian Male college student for hire! - 21''' - - I am a 21 year old Indian male attending UC Davis. I am currently experiencing financial difficulties and have come to this as a last resort. I would be more than happy to accompany a woman and ensure her complete and total satisfaction. All I ask is $60/30 minutes, $100/hour, and $80 for each additional hour up to a total of 8 hours. - - Keep in mind that you are paying for my time and my time only. Anything else is purely between 2 consentual adults. I look forward to hearing from you!'' - - Attached were two pictures, presumably enough for enterprising students to figure out the identity and shame the enterprising strumpet in public, 18th-century style.

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JabberWokky — 2006-05-03 12:00:44

Minor refmt

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- We should have a hotline for anonymous counseling about harm reduction and alternatives for people considering selling themselves in some way. No one should have to go this route because of economic necessity.	+ We should have a hotline for anonymous counseling about harm reduction and alternatives for people considering selling themselves in some way. No one should have to go this route because of economic necessity.
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- I am available to provide counseling - feel free to email me at [[MailTo(starbaby5 AT hotmail DOT com)]] and we can chat and I can help you find another way out if you would like that, or just give you support and a place to vent. I graduated awhile ago and no longer live in Davis, so nothing you say to me will get around anywhere.	+ I am available to provide counseling - feel free to email me at [[MailTo(starbaby5 AT hotmail DOT com)]] and we can chat and I can help you find another way out if you would like that, or just give you support and a place to vent. I graduated awhile ago and no longer live in Davis, so nothing you say to me will get around anywhere. -- ["CristinaDeptula"]
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- -- ["CristinaDeptula"]	+ Beyond that, Cristina sounds a bit sexist and homophobic, considering she ruled out male prostitutes in their entirety, not to mention lesbian prostitutes. What, Christina, they're not good enough to be considered part of a moral dilemma? Or is that stacking a moral dilemma on a moral dilemma? -- ["SaulSugarman"]
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- Beyond that, Cristina sounds a bit sexist and homophobic, considering she ruled out male prostitutes in their entirety, not to mention lesbian prostitutes. What, Christina, they're not good enough to be considered part of a moral dilemma? Or is that stacking a moral dilemma on a moral dilemma?
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- Keep in mind that you are paying for my time and my time only. Anything else is purely between 2 consentual adults. - I look forward to hearing from you!''	+ Keep in mind that you are paying for my time and my time only. Anything else is purely between 2 consentual adults. I look forward to hearing from you!''
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ScottRitchie — 2006-02-13 21:06:22

Add mysterious student male prostitute found on craigslist

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	+ ===Male Prostitution=== + + The day before Valentines Day, 2006, the following ad was spotted on Craigslist: [http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ers/133751344.html] + + '''''Attractive Indian Male college student for hire! - 21''' + + I am a 21 year old Indian male attending UC Davis. I am currently experiencing financial difficulties and have come to this as a last resort. I would be more than happy to accompany a woman and ensure her complete and total satisfaction. All I ask is $60/30 minutes, $100/hour, and $80 for each additional hour up to a total of 8 hours. + + Keep in mind that you are paying for my time and my time only. Anything else is purely between 2 consentual adults. + I look forward to hearing from you!'' + + Attached were two pictures, presumably enough for enterprising students to figure out the identity and shame the enterprising strumpet in public, 18th-century style. +

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SaulSugarman — 2006-02-13 17:12:48

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	+ ===Bonuses=== + + If you're lonely, don't know many people in town, kind of a loner but need some good (or maybe just some) sex, prostitution should be a pretty consistent bet. + + Beyond that, Cristina sounds a bit sexist and homophobic, considering she ruled out male prostitutes in their entirety, not to mention lesbian prostitutes. What, Christina, they're not good enough to be considered part of a moral dilemma? Or is that stacking a moral dilemma on a moral dilemma? + + -- ["SaulSugarman"] + + ===Other Drawbacks=== + + Prostitutes are known to, well, collect STDs.

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NathanPiazza — 2006-02-12 23:22:11

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- The nearest locality that has legal prostitution is a mere few hours away by car near ["Reno"], Nevada. The Old Bridge Ranch and Wild Horse Canyon Resort are just over the border, and several other legal brothels lie further on in the state. (Prostitution is legal in every county in Nevada ''except'' the counties in which Las Vegas and Reno are situated.)	+ The nearest locality that has legal prostitution is a mere few hours away by car near ["Reno"], Nevada. The Old Bridge Ranch and Wild Horse Canyon Resort are just over the border, and several other legal brothels lie further on in the state. (Prostitution is legal in all Nevada counties excluding Clark County [including Las Vegas], Washoe County [including Reno], Carson City, Douglas County, Lincoln County and Eureka County. This basically means, all the inhabited places.)

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BrentLaabs — 2005-11-17 22:35:16

Revert to version dated 2005-11-17 07:18:24.

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ApolloStumpy — 2005-11-17 22:23:27

Revert to version dated 2005-11-16 22:06:03.

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JessicaLuedtke — 2005-11-17 07:18:24

Is this really necessary?

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ApolloStumpy — 2005-11-16 22:06:03

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RyanCastellucci — 2005-09-26 20:36:21

fixed antispam

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- I am available to provide counseling - feel free to email me at [[MailTo(starbaby5@hotmail.com)]] and we can chat and I can help you find another way out if you would like that, or just give you support and a place to vent. I graduated awhile ago and no longer live in Davis, so nothing you say to me will get around anywhere.	+ I am available to provide counseling - feel free to email me at [[MailTo(starbaby5 AT hotmail DOT com)]] and we can chat and I can help you find another way out if you would like that, or just give you support and a place to vent. I graduated awhile ago and no longer live in Davis, so nothing you say to me will get around anywhere.

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RogerClark — 2005-09-08 06:57:35

Minor edit, i first read it as an offering of other services than intended

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RyanCastellucci — 2005-09-07 18:47:13

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CristinaDeptula — 2005-09-07 18:11:32

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- The nearest locality that has legal prostitution is a mere few hours away by car near ["Reno"], Nevada. The Old Bridge Ranch and Wild Horse Canyon Resort are just over the border, and several other legal brothels lie further on in the state. (Prostitition is legal in every county in Nevada ''except'' the counties in which Las Vegas and Reno are situated.)	+ The nearest locality that has legal prostitution is a mere few hours away by car near ["Reno"], Nevada. The Old Bridge Ranch and Wild Horse Canyon Resort are just over the border, and several other legal brothels lie further on in the state. (Prostitution is legal in every county in Nevada ''except'' the counties in which Las Vegas and Reno are situated.)
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ApolloStumpy — 2005-08-14 10:40:19

reordered it again: sorry, but few people care about what "many people" think

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	+ ===Qualms and ramifications=== + '''Prostitution''' creates a moral dilemma, but one that is more open to debate in the ["Davis Politics" political climate] of Davis. Many feel that it cheapens the whole purpose of sex and marriage, and degrades women whose role is to please men. However, others make the argument that it is actually empowering to women, as women use their bodies to exploit men's pocketbooks -- in contrast to a history of exploitation of women by men. These beliefs are influenced by social norms (many of which are directly imported from earlier, more misogynistic days) and ["Spiritual Organizations" religious beliefs].

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BrentLaabs — 2005-08-14 03:36:37

just reordering the content

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	+ Prostitution creates a moral dilemma, but one that is more open to debate in the ["Davis Politics" political climate] of Davis. Many feel that it cheapens the whole purpose of sex and marriage, and degrades women whose role is to please men. However, others make the argument that it is actually empowering to women, as women use their bodies to exploit men's pocketbooks -- in contrast to a history of exploitation of women by men. These beliefs are influenced by social norms (many of which are directly imported from earlier, more misogynistic days) and ["Spiritual Organizations" religious beliefs].
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PhilipNeustrom — 2005-08-12 09:33:02

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PhilipNeustrom — 2005-08-12 09:29:37

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- - [[Comments]] - - -This is a HORRIBLE page. Why is this page even here? I think Davis Wiki was not designed for lonely men to find a lady for the night. It's a poor reflection on our community to have a page like this - ["GeorgejAndrews"] - - I think its worthy of keeping if people can add legitimate substance to this page (e.g., # of arrests in Davis (sac doesn't count)). Given its current slant, I agree with GJA that this is a useless page that is in poor taste. And unless someone can provide some details, the Cantina comment is mean spirited and should be removed. ["CraigBrozinsky"] - ------ - ''2005-08-11 09:51:48'' [[nbsp]] As of right now (Mid Morning on August 11) it is ok, but not a lot of real info. I agree that some stats about Davis related stuff would be helpful. Otherwise it is more a waste of server space, rather than poor taste, in my opinion. --["RocksandDirt"] - ------ - ''2005-08-11 10:26:16'' [[nbsp]] wtf? There are plenty of pages with much less usefulness, and plenty of Sacramento items that are on here because Sacramento happens to be very nearby Davis, and a popular destination for Davis people not wanting to go to San Francisco. And it's only a waste of "server space" if daviswiki is run off of a 20MB hd. Unless you mean bandwidth, but I really doubt so many people are checking out the prostitution page that the server is in danger of succumbing to it. And if it is, then obviously, prostitution is a popular enough topic to have a page on it. I bet when the Sac council approves the webpage to show off convicted johns, there will be at least one Davis resident on it. --["ApolloStumpy"] - ------ - ''2005-08-11 17:13:05'' [[nbsp]] I agree with George. This is not a good discussion at all. --["DustinDevan"] - ------ - ''2005-08-11 17:35:21'' [[nbsp]] The role of this website isn't to present a positive reflection on our community, or to have discussions that make everyone happy. It is to present accurate information about life in Davis, and prostitution is a part of that life for some people. As much as I wish that we were all part of some romantic comedy (preferably a musical), some of the more banal elements of life, such as whoring, do have an effect on our lives.[[BR]]at Phil: I was just trying to set a limit on what should be on this page, but I can't expect to say everything well at 3AM. --["BrentLaabs"] - ------ - ''2005-08-11 17:42:37'' [[nbsp]] Brent: I've got a theory, - that it's a demon... - a dancing demon! - No, something isn't right there... --["JabberWokky"] - ------ - ''2005-08-11 17:46:44'' [[nbsp]] I've got a theory: some kid is dreaming and we're all stuck inside his wacky broadway nightmare --["SarahHillard"] - ------ - ''2005-08-11 18:08:58'' [[nbsp]] There's nothing the wiki can't face- except for bunnies. prostitute playboy bunnies --["CraigBrozinsky"] - ------ - ''2005-08-11 18:11:16'' [[nbsp]] As long as these bunnies can sing, I don't see what problems we could have. --["BrentLaabs"] - ------ - ''2005-08-12 08:00:21'' [[nbsp]] ok...this is what i predict. If we keep this page up and give it a few months....i sadly can assure you that this will probally be one of those most hit pages on a google search. Heres to wiki's reputation...a place where guys can find information on illegal activities degrading to women. --["GeorgejAndrews"] - ------ - ''2005-08-12 08:15:27'' [[nbsp]] "The role of this website isn't to present a positive reflection on our community, or to have discussions that make everyone happy. It is to present accurate information about life in Davis, and prostitution is a part of that life for some people." I agree with this. --["KenjiYamada"] - ------ - ''2005-08-12 08:29:41'' [[nbsp]] I dont want to start an edit war, but I really don't like the last line of the last paragraph "it is recommended..." the wiki recommending people engage in prostitution before september...hmm...something more constructive like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution wikipedia's page] would be nice. --["JimSchwab"] - ------ - ''2005-08-12 10:24:49'' [[nbsp]] George - it's not illegal within esay driving distance, and plenty of people of both sexes don't find it degrading. Even if those weren't true, it occurs. That is enough to create a page - we have pages about racial discrimination, date rape, Picnic Day and other unfortunate aspects of life in Davis. Just consider it a page about YAAOD (yet another aspect of Davis). --["JabberWokky"]	+ ---- + ''Debate about the content of this page can be found on its ["Prostituion/Talk" talk page].''

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JabberWokky — 2005-08-12 09:24:49

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- The nearest locality that has legal prostitution is a mere few hours away by car in ["Reno"], Nevada. The Old Bridge Ranch and Wild Horse Canyon Resort are just over the border, and several other legal brothels lie further on in the state.	+ The nearest locality that has legal prostitution is a mere few hours away by car near ["Reno"], Nevada. The Old Bridge Ranch and Wild Horse Canyon Resort are just over the border, and several other legal brothels lie further on in the state. (Prostitition is legal in every county in Nevada ''except'' the counties in which Las Vegas and Reno are situated.)

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JaimeRaba — 2005-08-12 07:42:53

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JimSchwab — 2005-08-12 07:29:41

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BrentLaabs — 2005-08-11 17:11:16

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SarahHillard — 2005-08-11 16:46:44

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JabberWokky — 2005-08-11 16:42:37

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BrentLaabs — 2005-08-11 16:35:21

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JabberWokky — 2005-08-11 16:23:30

Added info about legal prostitution. (Go go Google!)

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DustinDevan — 2005-08-11 16:13:05

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PhilipNeustrom — 2005-08-11 15:07:28

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ApolloStumpy — 2005-08-11 09:26:16

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	+ ------ + ''2005-08-11 10:26:16'' [[nbsp]] wtf? There are plenty of pages with much less usefulness, and plenty of Sacramento items that are on here because Sacramento happens to be very nearby Davis, and a popular destination for Davis people not wanting to go to San Francisco. And it's only a waste of "server space" if daviswiki is run off of a 20MB hd. Unless you mean bandwidth, but I really doubt so many people are checking out the prostitution page that the server is in danger of succumbing to it. And if it is, then obviously, prostitution is a popular enough topic to have a page on it. I bet when the Sac council approves the webpage to show off convicted johns, there will be at least one Davis resident on it. --["ApolloStumpy"]

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RocksandDirt — 2005-08-11 08:51:48

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JackHaskel — 2005-08-11 07:05:46

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BrentLaabs — 2005-08-11 01:40:31

Hopefully this improves the page.

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CraigBrozinsky — 2005-08-10 23:36:24

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	+ + I think its worthy of keeping if people can add legitimate substance to this page (e.g., # of arrests in Davis (sac doesn't count)). Given its current slant, I agree with GJA that this is a useless page that is in poor taste. And unless someone can provide some details, the Cantina comment is mean spirited and should be removed. ["CraigBrozinsky"]

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GeorgejAndrews — 2005-08-10 23:12:44

Wiki Masters....please delete this crap

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ApolloStumpy — 2005-08-10 21:55:36

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