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JessicaRockwell — 2009-11-21 03:51:20

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JessicaRockwell — 2009-11-21 02:01:35

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- Students converged on ["Mrak Hall"] on November 18 to ["protests" protest] the ["UC Regents"] approval of a 32% student fee hike that will happen over the next year. Students' reaction to the UC Regent's vote was covered by [http://www.news10.net/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=1274333a64a5d7e45e434dd91191c8e94a1234b7&maven_referralObject=1336938877 ABC News 10]. As these budget cuts affect all UC students, protests have also taken place at other UC campuses. Several students were arrested at Mrak.	+ Students converged on ["Mrak Hall"] on November 19 to ["protests" protest] the ["UC Regents"] approval of a 32% student fee hike that will happen over the next year. Students' reaction to the UC Regent's vote was covered by [http://www.news10.net/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=1274333a64a5d7e45e434dd91191c8e94a1234b7&maven_referralObject=1336938877 ABC News 10]. As these budget cuts affect all UC students, protests have also taken place at other UC campuses. Several students were arrested at Mrak. + Additional news coverage: [http://www.sacbee.com/827/story/2338986.html UC students occupy buildings to protest fee hike] + [http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=70703 UC Davis Fee Hike Protests Continue] + [http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_13832968?source=rss More than 50 protesters arrested at UC Davis] + [http://www.sacbee.com/education/story/2337222.html Amid protests, UC OKs 32% fee hike] + [http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/2338939.html UC students occupy buildings to protest fee hike] + [http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/2336989.html Dozens of protesters arrested at UC Davis] + [http://www.sacbee.com/education/story/2334671.html UC regents face outcry, prepare to hike fees 32%] + [http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/2337651.html UC Davis protesters and administrators meet over fee hikes] + [http://photos.davisenterprise.com/view_photos.php?s=100&k=0&num=0 Photos from Davis Enterprise] + [http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/56347 Pacifica Evening News]

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WilliamLewis — 2009-11-20 18:55:07

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- About 100 students protested in ["Dutton Hall"] on the afternoon of November 20.	+ + About 100 students protested in ["Dutton Hall"] on the afternoon of November 20. The protesters were in Dutton instead of Mrak because Mrak was on lockdown following the protests the previous night.

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robinlaughlin — 2009-11-20 17:38:31

About 100 students in Dutton now.

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RyanMikulovsky — 2009-11-20 07:01:19

fix bolds. although maybe headers would be better..

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JessicaRockwell — 2009-11-20 06:33:50

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JoePomidor — 2009-02-23 19:35:38

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- Celebration of International Worker's Day. Fight for UCD contracted-out food service workers, fight to end the U.S. war in Iraq, and to end the targetting of undocumented immigrants.	+ Celebration of International Worker's Day. Fight for UCD contracted-out food service workers, fight to end the U.S. war in Iraq, and to end the targeting of undocumented immigrants.

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JasonAller — 2008-09-14 15:16:46

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- Several anti-war demonstrators were seen at "G" and 3rd Street, quietly protesting the continued American presence in Iraq. Their appearance was complete with signs, long hair, and colorful shirts. A ["LeonardMarque" contributor] to the Wiki remembers one sign, that said, "No More War Funding". Perhaps the timing, on St. Patrick's Day, was deliberately planned for maximum audience.	+ Several anti-war demonstrators were seen at "G" and 3rd Street, quietly protesting the continued American presence in Iraq. Their appearance was complete with signs, long hair, and colorful shirts. A ["Users/LeonardMarque" contributor] to the Wiki remembers one sign, that said, "No More War Funding". Perhaps the timing, on St. Patrick's Day, was deliberately planned for maximum audience.
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- The ["Church of the Divide"] has picketed the ["First Baptist Church"] over ["FreddieOakley" Freddie Oakley] having decided to issue Certificates of Inequality.	+ The ["Church of the Divide"] has picketed the ["First Baptist Church"] over ["Users/FreddieOakley" Freddie Oakley] having decided to issue Certificates of Inequality.
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JessicaRockwell — 2008-07-17 00:47:33

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JabberWokky — 2008-06-28 09:24:59

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	+ + '''1946''' + + People from ["West Hall"] during the middle of the night sneak copies of a special edition of the ["California Aggie"] onto the desks of legislators at the Capitol in ["Sacramento"]. The edition details the poor conditions of buildings at the school that is now ["UC Davis"].

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DavidPoole — 2008-04-08 22:36:01

Sup B? a blast from the past maybe?

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JasonAller — 2008-04-08 22:10:29

If you can't spell, don't write dirty words on walls (or slogans on sidewalks)

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JasonAller — 2008-04-08 22:07:08

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JabberWokky — 2008-03-06 01:54:04

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BrentLaabs — 2008-02-04 12:03:51

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	+ + '''February 10, 2007''' + Protest of ["Scientology"]. There are no branches of the Church of Scientology in Davis, but many Davisites are expected to attend protests in Sacramento and San Francisco. See the ["Scientology"] page for details.

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JasonAller — 2007-12-23 18:26:46

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- ''2007-11-27 20:51:03'' [[nbsp]] Thee were at the UCD campus too, a few old men and alot of girls in their teens. Big signs with pictures of fetuses and comparisons to Hitler. Not the classiest group, but they were polite when I declined thier lit. --["Users/AndrewPeake"]	+ ''2007-11-27 20:51:03'' [[nbsp]] Thee were at the UCD campus too, a few old men and alot of girls in their teens. Big signs with pictures of fetuses and comparisons to Hitler. Not the classiest group, but they were polite when I declined their lit. --["Users/AndrewPeake"]

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HeatherFlood — 2007-11-28 10:57:19

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	+ ------ + ''2007-11-28 10:57:19'' [[nbsp]] well I guess it sounds like the Teens for life group with old men and young girls. They had signs like the Genocide group. Thanks for the info. --["Users/HeatherFlood"]

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MaxMikalonis — 2007-11-27 23:13:30

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	+ ------ + ''2007-11-27 23:13:30'' [[nbsp]] Could've been the [http://www.abortionno.org/GAP/davis.html Genocide Awareness Project]. They've been known to come to Davis in the past. However, normally their protests are highly organized and planned in advance. Perhaps abortion-oriented ["Preachers with Signs"]? I seem to remember one incarnation with "Redefeat Fascism" + "I Have a Dream" of MLK's fame = Anti Abortion Activists, around and on the Day of the November 2006 Election. --["Users/MaxMikalonis"]

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AndrewPeake — 2007-11-27 20:51:03

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PaulAmnuaypayoat — 2007-11-27 19:23:56

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	+ * O, ok. I remember my last encounter with Teens for Life (around 2002 - 2003), and it was mostly teenage girls of about age 13 working with age 60ish looking older men... Was kind of an odd combination of demographics that they had in my opinion. But ya, what you described might be some other group then. Hopefully you can find what you are looking for. - ["Paul Amnuaypayoat"]

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HeatherFlood — 2007-11-27 08:22:03

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PaulAmnuaypayoat — 2007-11-27 00:39:36

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	+ * If the group had teenagers, it might have been "Teens for Life". But then again, it could have been one of a bunch of other groups as well... - ["Paul Amnuaypayoat"]

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HeatherFlood — 2007-11-26 19:50:43

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	+ ------ + ''2007-11-26 19:50:43'' [[nbsp]] Does anyone know which group was protesting abortion today 11/26/07 in front of Davis High School ?? --["Users/HeatherFlood"]

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JessicaRockwell — 2007-09-06 18:21:46

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JessicaRockwell — 2007-07-04 03:30:31

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LeonardMarque — 2007-03-17 18:55:44

3/17 assembly

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JasonAller — 2007-02-21 18:42:37

deorphanizing the Church of the Divide

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SteveOstrowski — 2007-01-23 21:56:10

Thou shall not be sarcastic

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- The ["Davis Life Chain"] was held along ["Russell Boulevard"] on Oct 2nd, 2005 with a couple scores of people holding a number of signs including ones that said "Abortion Kills Babies". They (the people including members of different Churches as well as from ["Students for Life at UCD"]) were called on to reflect on the issue of abortion and how it has affected society. They were also asked to reflect on how they can promote change and end abortion. They looked very serious. This may have been because they were praying and reflecting. On the other side of the street, a bunch of vibrant college and high school teens (mostly women) held signs that said, "Pro Women / Pro Choice" and other similar spinoffs of the message. Amazingly enough, the expression of these two messages changed the world and a decision on the issue worldwide was decided upon. News at 11:00. </sarcasm> Amazingly, the Davis Life Chain expressed a message of life often lacking from popular culture and the media and allowed for people to express their belief in the rights of the unborn.	+ The ["Davis Life Chain"] was held along ["Russell Boulevard"] on Oct 2nd, 2005 with a couple scores of people holding a number of signs including ones that said "Abortion Kills Babies". They (the people including members of different Churches as well as from ["Students for Life at UCD"]) were called on to reflect on the issue of abortion and how it has affected society. They were also asked to reflect on how they can promote change and end abortion. They looked very serious. This may have been because they were praying and reflecting. On the other side of the street, a bunch of vibrant college and high school teens (mostly women) held signs that said, "Pro Women / Pro Choice" and other similar spinoffs of the message. The Davis Life Chain expressed a message of life often lacking from popular culture and the media and allowed for people to express their belief in the rights of the unborn.

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JasonAller — 2007-01-23 20:00:25

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JasonAller — 2007-01-23 19:58:44

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JasonAller — 2006-07-22 10:00:07

Revert to version 6 (Page was needed, page also needs work.).

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JabberWokky — 2006-07-19 20:11:15

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- This page serves to catalog protest and picketing events that have occurred (or will occur) in ["Davis"]. - === === - ## most recent events at the top -- right below here! - - - - ''' October 2, 2005''' [[BR]]'''Topic: ["Abortion"]''' - - The ["Davis Life Chain"] was held along ["Russell Boulevard"] on Oct 2nd, 2005 with a couple scores of people holding a number of signs including ones that said "Abortion Kills Babies". They (the people including members of different Churches as well as from ["Students for Life at UCD"]) were called on to reflect on the issue of abortion and how it has affected society. They were also asked to reflect on how they can promote change and end abortion. They looked very serious. This may have been because they were praying and reflecting. On the other side of the street, a bunch of vibrant college and high school teens (mostly women) held signs that said, "Pro Women / Pro Choice" and other similar spinoffs of the message. Amazingly enough, the expression of these two messages changed the world and a decision on the issue worldwide was decided upon. News at 11:00. </sarcasm> Amazingly, the Davis Life Chain expressed a message of life often lacking from popular culture and the media and allowed for people to express their belief in the rights of the unborn. - - ---- - - Also related to Protests: - * ["Davis Radical Cheerleaders"] - * ["Davis Baby for Peace"] - - - [[Comments]]	+ deleted

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BrentLaabs — 2005-12-01 01:41:19

linking things that i don't know where else they belong.

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MichaelGiardina — 2005-11-15 23:48:29

This page seems dead, like babies?

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ColinWen — 2005-10-17 18:46:56

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BrentLaabs — 2005-10-16 18:52:11

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- ------ - Okay everyone, here's how it's going to go. The title of this page is stupid, and doesn't solve anything. The ["Abortion Debate"] is the biggest page on the wiki, and hasn't yet solved anything. It's time for a major refactoring of all of this. Either: - 1. give this page a sane title, and make it about various abortion related protests; - 1. make a general ["Protests"] page; or - 1. add this to the ["Davis Politics"] page. - Secondly, we essentially have an "Abortion/Talk" page (["Abortion Debate"]) without an ["Abortion"] page. Make one.
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- * and what if unicorns really existed? - ------ - A protests page sounds perfect. I recomend the ["Breaking News"] format. -["MichaelGiardina"]	+ A message of "Abortion Kills Babies" was displayed on the signs of a couple scores of people along ["Russell Boulevard"] on Oct 2nd, 2005. They (the people) looked very serious. On the other side of the street, a bunch of vibrant college teens (mostly women) held signs that said, "Pro Women / Pro Choice" and other similar spinoffs of the message. Amazingly enough, the expression of these two messages changed the world and a decision on the issue worldwide was decided upon. News at 11:00. </sarcasm> + + ----

Protests

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	+ A message put on the signs of a couple scores of people along ["Russell Boulevard"] on Oct 2nd, 2005. They (the people) looked very serious. On the other side of the street, a bunch of vibrant college teens (mostly women) held signs that said, "Pro Women / Pro Choice" and other similar spinoffs of the message. Amazingly enough, the expression of these two messages changed the world and a decision on the issue worldwide was decided upon. News at 11:00. + + ------ + Okay everyone, here's how it's going to go. The title of this page is stupid, and doesn't solve anything. The ["Abortion Debate"] is the biggest page on the wiki, and hasn't yet solved anything. It's time for a major refactoring of all of this. Either: + 1. give this page a sane title, and make it about various abortion related protests; + 1. make a general ["Protests"] page; or + 1. add this to the ["Davis Politics"] page. + Secondly, we essentially have an "Abortion/Talk" page (["Abortion Debate"]) without an ["Abortion"] page. Make one. + + Third, ["Abortion Debate"] is a mess. Personally, I'd like to delete the whole thing, but I won't because I'm a nice guy. Could someone attempt to refactor or clean up the discussion? + + Thanks everyone, for helping get the annoyance off of the wiki. [http://www.google.com/search?&q=bashy%20hate%20fetus Bashy hate fetus], but loves you! + --["BrentLaabs"] + ------ + What if abortion ''didn't'' kill babies? Then would it be acceptable to 'pro-lifer's'? Just as a thought experiment, what if a pill was developed which made the natal machinery run backwards. It would cause the embryo to shrink as its cells were reabsorbed by the mother's body, until nothing was left. Would taking such a pill be morally wrong? What if it was an injection instead of a pill? My understanding is that the 'day after' pill is 'murder' too, correct? Any time after the sperm and egg have joined is abortion, and therefore wrong, correct? So immediately before they have joined, they're fair game to destroy at will then? I have often wondered, what if one fetus strangles his twin brother with his umbilical cord before birth. Would he then be given the death penalty as soon as he was born, yet protected from abortion before? At what age does loss of "innocence" occur? Birth? 13? 18? 21? I'm just trying to get my head around these issues. + + * and what if unicorns really existed? + ------ + A protests page sounds perfect. I recomend the ["Breaking News"] format. -["MichaelGiardina"]