Recent Changes for "Reviews" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/ReviewsRecent Changes of the page "Reviews" on Davis Wiki.en-us Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2009-07-15 10:55:10JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 31: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Shari<span>_</span>Lewis<span>&nbsp;Shari Lewis</span>] holding [wiki:wikipedia:"Lamb Chop (puppet)" Lamb Chop]. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:<span>"</span>Shari<span>&nbsp;</span>Lewis<span>"</span>] holding [wiki:wikipedia:"Lamb Chop (puppet)" Lamb Chop]. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP.<span><br> + <br> + [http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/technology/internet/15lift.html?_r=2&amp;pagewanted=print Recent court settlements] point to this kind of activity not only being illegal, but also being actively prosecuted.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2008-02-14 10:18:17JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 31: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Shari_Lewis Shari Lewis] holding Lamb Chop. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Shari_Lewis Shari Lewis] holding <span>[wiki:wikipedia:"</span>Lamb Chop<span>&nbsp;(puppet)" Lamb Chop]</span>. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2008-02-14 01:32:54inarius <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 31: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Shari_Lewis Sh<span>erry</span> Lewis] holding Lamb Chop. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Shari_Lewis Sh<span>ari</span> Lewis] holding Lamb Chop. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2008-02-14 01:32:30inarius <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 31: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Sh<span>erry</span>_Lewis Sherry Lewis] holding Lamb Chop. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Sh<span>ari</span>_Lewis Sherry Lewis] holding Lamb Chop. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2007-07-04 20:58:14JabberWokkyHow's this? <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 31: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly<span>, either post</span>ing <span>good or bad comments</span>.<span>&nbsp;</span> Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP.<span><br> - <br> - ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Other version: -----<br> - Sockpuppets are people who register more than one account to make it appear that their view is more widely held. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Sherry_Lewis Sherry Lewis] holding Lamb Chop. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address.<br> - ----- /!\ End of edit conflict -----</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly<span>. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Sherry_Lewis Sherry Lewis] hold</span>ing <span>Lamb Chop</span>. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2007-07-04 20:56:24JabberWokkyCleaned up obvious edit conflict, discussing other one. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 27: </td> <td> Line 27: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Your version: -----</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 29: </td> <td> Line 28: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Other version: -----<br> - = How to spot Sockpuppets =<br> - ----- /!\ End of edit conflict -----</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 33: </td> <td> Line 29: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Your version: -----</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2007-07-04 20:55:29JabberWokkySuck. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Business pages on the wiki will eventually accumulate reviews as people use the {{{[[Comments]]}}} macro. People will leave both positive and negative comments and the quality of those comments will range greatly as well. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Business pages on the wiki will eventually accumulate reviews as people use the {{{[[Comments]]}}} macro. People will leave both positive and negative comments and the quality of those comments will range greatly as well.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;If you are a business owner, try reading ["Welcome to the Wiki/Business Owner" the quick start guide].</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> = Why <span>n</span>egative <span>r</span>eviews aren't <span>d</span>eleted = </td> <td> <span>+</span> = Why <span>N</span>egative <span>R</span>eviews aren't <span>D</span>eleted = </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 23: </td> <td> Line 23: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Davis Wiki has decided not to delete negative reviews. They may contain some useful information (even if it is information about the person who left the review). see ["Welcome to the Wiki/Business Owner"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Reviews are not deleted just because they are negative reviews. They may contain some useful information (even if it is information about the person who left the review). That is not to say reviews are never deleted; personal attacks on private individuals or "hit and run" reviews (made by an account created just to post a negative review) are generally removed. The remaining ones are the opinions of the community of Davis and are generally protected as such.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 25: </td> <td> Line 25: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ''This needs some revision. I don't see any issue deleting poorly-written reviews in the same way that we delete poorly written comments or contributions elsewhere. The essential point is that we don't delete things __just because__ they are negative or in opposition to a particular viewpoint.''</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Another form of questionable review is somebody who makes an account just to slam a single subject. They might be named "AcmePharmacySucks". These reviews are often deleted and the person encouraged to post under their real name (or a pen name that we can get to know them by). It's seldom that you run into an actual Mr. or Ms. Sucks.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 27: </td> <td> Line 27: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Your version: -----<br> + If something has gather a large number of reviews over the years, older reviews are generally archived to let the more recent reviews that best reflect the current community view of the subject to be more promanent.<br> + ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Other version: -----</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 28: </td> <td> Line 31: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ----- /!\ End of edit conflict -----</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 29: </td> <td> Line 33: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Your version: -----<br> + = How to spot Fake Reviewers =<br> + <br> + Reviews should reflect the opinion of real people. Some wiseguys create a number of accounts and try to appear to "be a crowd". These bogus account are generally referred to as "sockpuppets", and experienced editors can usually spot them fairly quickly, either posting good or bad comments. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address, but be aware that roommates can discover the wiki and legitimate posts be made from the same IP.<br> + <br> + ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Other version: -----</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 30: </td> <td> Line 40: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ----- /!\ End of edit conflict -----</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2007-07-04 20:53:55JasonAller <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 27: </td> <td> Line 27: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> = <span>h</span>ow to spot <span>s</span>ockpuppets = </td> <td> <span>+</span> = <span>H</span>ow to spot <span>S</span>ockpuppets = </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 29: </td> <td> Line 29: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- [[Include(Sockpuppet)]]<br> - <br> - Sockpuppets are people who register more than one account to make it appear that their view is more widely held. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address.</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Sockpuppets are people who register more than one account to make it appear that their view is more widely held. Picture if you will [wiki:wikipedia:Sherry_Lewis Sherry Lewis] holding Lamb Chop. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2007-07-04 20:45:03JabberWokky"We" sets up an "us" versus "them". The reader is a wikizen. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> = Why<span>&nbsp;we don't delete the</span> negative reviews = </td> <td> <span>+</span> = Why negative reviews <span>aren't deleted </span>= </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2007-07-04 17:51:07PhilipNeustrom <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 23: </td> <td> Line 23: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Davis<span>w</span>iki has decided not to delete negative reviews. They may contain some useful information (even if it is information about the person who left the review). see ["Welcome to the Wiki/Business Owner"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> Davis<span>&nbsp;W</span>iki has decided not to delete negative reviews. They may contain some useful information (even if it is information about the person who left the review). see ["Welcome to the Wiki/Business Owner"]<span><br> + <br> + ''This needs some revision. I don't see any issue deleting poorly-written reviews in the same way that we delete poorly written comments or contributions elsewhere. The essential point is that we don't delete things __just because__ they are negative or in opposition to a particular viewpoint.''</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2007-07-04 17:37:18JasonAller <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> So how do you know who the person who left the review is? '''Can you trust them?''' If they [<span>wiki:davis:</span>"Importance of using your RealName" used their real name] then it is a little easier, but even without that you can learn some things. Look at their username, does it have a dotted underline or a solid? Dotted usernames indicate that the person hasn't created a personal page on the wiki yet. Click on the name and then click Info and User's Info. How many edits have they made? Check a few, are they just a negative person in general? </td> <td> <span>+</span> So how do you know who the person who left the review is? '''Can you trust them?''' If they ["Importance of using your RealName" used their real name] then it is a little easier, but even without that you can learn some things. Look at their username, does it have a dotted underline or a solid? Dotted usernames indicate that the person hasn't created a personal page on the wiki yet. Click on the name and then click Info and User's Info. How many edits have they made? Check a few, are they just a negative person in general? </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> = <span>w</span>hy we don't delete the <span>sh</span>i<span>tty</span> reviews = </td> <td> <span>+</span> = <span>W</span>hy we don't delete the <span>negat</span>i<span>ve</span> reviews = </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 27: </td> <td> Line 27: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ [[Include(Sockpuppet)]]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Reviewshttp://daviswiki.org/Reviews2007-07-04 17:33:58JasonAllerstill draft quality, need an include to point to it <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Reviews<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Business pages on the wiki will eventually accumulate reviews as people use the {{{[[Comments]]}}} macro. People will leave both positive and negative comments and the quality of those comments will range greatly as well.<br> + <br> + = Critical Thinking 101 (need better heading title?) =<br> + <br> + [[TableOfContents(right)]]<br> + <br> + The reviews you read here are worth what you paid to see them. Is the review all negative or all positive? Does it point out both good and bad points? Does it use proper English? Do they use slang or profanity? Do they complain about service, but you can feel their attitude in their review?<br> + <br> + A high quality review will almost read like a story. They will tell you the story of their patronage pointing out both good and bad and giving you a context for their valuation.<br> + <br> + = Learning more about the Reviewer =<br> + <br> + So how do you know who the person who left the review is? '''Can you trust them?''' If they [wiki:davis:"Importance of using your RealName" used their real name] then it is a little easier, but even without that you can learn some things. Look at their username, does it have a dotted underline or a solid? Dotted usernames indicate that the person hasn't created a personal page on the wiki yet. Click on the name and then click Info and User's Info. How many edits have they made? Check a few, are they just a negative person in general?<br> + <br> + = Questioning Motivation =<br> + <br> + Why do people leave reviews? More have motivation to leave negative reviews than positive for any business. Some may want you to give your business to either the business that the page is or, or another one.<br> + <br> + Remember the aphorisms about customer service and the ratio between how many people a satisfied customer well tell, versus one who feels mistreated.<br> + <br> + = why we don't delete the shitty reviews =<br> + <br> + Daviswiki has decided not to delete negative reviews. They may contain some useful information (even if it is information about the person who left the review). see ["Welcome to the Wiki/Business Owner"]<br> + <br> + = how to spot sockpuppets =<br> + <br> + Sockpuppets are people who register more than one account to make it appear that their view is more widely held. Look for edits being made from different accounts from the same IP address.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>