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Former co-op member pxl has published the following letter of grievance with the SCHA. In it, he claims that the SCHA board of directors have violated the bylaws of their organization, are ecologically ignorant, and lack concern for the planet. He cites instances of alleged misconduct to support these contentions. He claims that a certain director unsuccessfully attempted to remove income limits on members in an interested manner, to ensure that his girlfriend could continue to live in the community. He claims that certain renovation contracts were awarded to a sitting director in an improper manner. He claims that the directors approved transportation to a community housing convention by air transit, which was an ecologically burdensome and unsustainable form of transportation. He also finds grievance with the meeting of the board and some current and former residents where it was decided that he should be evicted from the community complex. He complains that the organization does not adhere to its own bylaws, and that proper procedure is not followed as a matter of routine in both the case of his eviction and in the day to day running of the organization. He feels the manner in which he was evicted was improper, and urges readers of this article to ask that the current board members adhere to their own bylaws, that violations of proper procedure should be met with reprimand, and that certain board members should step down.
Open Letter
Written January 20th, 2010 by Pxl, a former member of SCHA
From 2005 to 2010, I lived at the J st. co-op, which is one of two co-operative homes owned by Solar Community Housing Association. In the past two years, a series of events has unfolded that leaves me with no respect for the SCHA board of directors or their collective commitment to non-hierarchical cooperative housing and environmental sustainability. In my opinion, the SCHA board of directors is desperately in need of reform and restructuring.
The SCHA board of directors has repeatedly ignored or violated their own bylaws and values and demonstrated their ecological ignorance or lack of concern for the planet. In housing cooperatives, there is often high turnover, including on a board of directors. My hope is that the board will soon get back on track, but I fear this is not the case. Several of the best board members have left this year, with some frustration over faulty board process and I think the most detrimental board members are now the “old hats” the new board members are learning from.
In order for SCHA to stay true to their core values of affordable cooperative housing and environmental sustainability and to put some recent wrongdoings in the organization’s past, I am calling for a general return to core values by the board and the resignation and removal of SCHA director Max Stevenson specifically for many reasons. There has been such high turnover on the board this year already, and I do not know some of the current board members so I do not think it necessary for the entire board to step down.
The not-for-profit SCHA was formed with the stated goal of “reducing the burden of affordable housing from the state.” In order to ensure this, there are income limits in place for all non-student SCHA members (80% of local median family income or currently about $38,000). In 2006 or 2007, SCHA Community Director Max Stevenson pushed a several month process of trying to remove the income limits from our housing. This was a huge time drain, detracted from the very core of the organization, and could have jeopardized our tax-exempt status had he succeeded. I opposed this action.
From 2007-2009, the SCHA board approved thousands of dollars in airline ticket purchases to send members to a national weekend co-op conference in Michigan, while, in the same period they completely ignored a similar West Coast conference. They purchased these tickets over the repeated objections of members who did not want their money to go towards one of the most polluting and damaging means of transportation possible. With these actions, The Board of Directors has increased the carbon footprint for this 16 room Co-op to an absurdly large and completely unsustainable size. I went to this conference once, but I rode the train.
In 2009, SCHA Community Director Max Stevenson attempted to get SCHA to co-invest in some property with him in an expansion project. This was in direct violation of SCHA’s governing bylaws. I opposed this attempt as well.
In September 2009, the Board awarded SCHA Community Director Ben Pearl almost $40,000 to be project manager for a new SCHA expansion project. They did this without creating a job description or seeking ANY outside applicants for the position. While not a violation of SCHA bylaws, I don’t think this conforms to common not for profit etiquette. Ben abstained from the vote to “avoid” conflict of interest but I would like to see him resign from the board OR step down as project manager for the new co-op.
On September 21st, 2009, the board held a secret meeting with a small group of mostly former co-op and board members. That night, the board decided that I should be forced out for being “too confrontational”. They offered me $600 to not sign a new lease and move out by October 1st. If I refused, they threatened to serve a three-day eviction notice… after living there for almost five years. As soon as I became aware of the board's action against me I initiated a mediation process with the City of Davis' Community Mediation Services, which is one of the first steps in SCHA’s grievance process. The board declined mediation.
I negotiated with the board personally. At this point, I no longer wished to reside in the midst of a negative situation. We agreed that I would have 30 days to vacate, I left in “good standing”, and I signed a small book-size-document they’d paid a lawyer to draft, saying I would agree not to sue SCHA. I have not financially recovered, am still homeless and I still have no desire to sue the organization. I just don’t want the current board to ruin this great organization.
According to SCHA’s bylaws, there are very specific ways to be forced out, such as 2/3’s of current housemates petitioning the board for a member’s removal. In my case, none of the criteria was met and more of my housemates opposed my eviction than supported it. The board violated many of its bylaws, established process, our written lease, and completely ignored the written grievance policy (a legal attachment to our lease). When I asked why they were not following procedure, the board told me “no one has followed process from the beginning, so we’re not going to start now” and “it’s easier for everyone this way.” Everyone except for me that is, whose rights were being trampled.
This secretive action caused me immense emotional damage and severely impacted SCHA’s reputation in the community.
Good organizational process is so essential for transparency, openness and accountability, which I feel the board is lacking right now. Many current and former members have said they do not feel the board is responsive to them. I have been asked to join the board many times and I always declined, as I’m not fond of meetings and stay pretty busy with my work and gardening for Food Not Bombs, Whole Earth Festival, Yolo County Food Bank, and J St. co-op.
I hope that you’ll let the board know what you think about their actions, demand that the SCHA board of directors adhere to their bylaws and that directors are reprimanded or step down when they don’t. The future of truly co-operative housing is at stake... email the board at: SCHA.Davis@gmail.com
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2010-01-21 02:29:10 I can see some arguments for including this, and for not doing so.
Pro: It seems like it is similar to the experiences that people post all the time for rental units. (Although it is MUCH longer.) So in the sense that it describes that person's view of what it was like to live there, it seems like we should include it (but as a comment, not as main content).
Con: It's also an attack on a set of people within SCHA, and goes beyond being descriptive in that it attempts to get people who are likely not involved in SCHA to affect the composition of the SCHA leadership. To me, that falls more under the categories of politics and advertising (for a particular goal), and doesn't really feel appropriate to the Wiki. Every group with enough people has its own internal politics. This really seems like an internal matter for SCHA... —IDoNotExist
2010-01-21 07:45:17 SCHA forced me out of the co-op in an illegal and unethical manner. I think it is very important that former co-opers, other co-opers, future coopers, and the general public know what's going on. I could see some of the personal statements moved to the comments section and the facts kept in place. There are so many controversial decisions that the board has made, I think a controversy section is important to highlight this. The Board tried to silence me form the organization, so the wiki is the ONLY place I have to air these complaints. —PxlAted
2010-01-21 08:02:46 PxlAted, I saw your long, personal letter of complaint against SCHA. Until such a time as you rewrite it to be in wiki format rather than personal-rant format, strip it of your opinion and analysis, and clean it of any accusations which are libelous, I'm going to do my damned best to keep it out of the main page. Statements which are not of fact but which speculate about the motivations of certain board members are not appropriate. State the facts and let the reader draw conclusions. For instance, stating that a board member tried to change the bi-laws just to keep his girlfriend in the housing unit is unacceptable, unless you've already sued them and a court of law has determined this to be so. Stating that the board member tried to change the bi laws, and that his girlfriend happened to exceed the income limit, allowing the reader to put two and two together, IS acceptable. Clean it up, shrink it down, remove the editorializing, but until then, keep it out, and find some other outlet to use to attack these people. Like court. —EdwardNiemand
We've had this discussion before: The text is attributed and we are immune from liability under section 230 of the CDA. Please stop invoking the legal system unnecessarily. Just because you're a lawyer, you have a hammer (the legal system) and everything you see seems to be a nail. Also, rulings of a court aren't some great proof of truth or falsehood. Look at all the so-called "experts" who are allowed to testify under the Daubert standard. —WilliamLewis
2010-01-21 08:11:42 edward, I didn't think everything had to be NPOV... —PxlAted
2010-01-21 08:16:43 I heard something about your conflict with the board from a few former members of the complex... it's my understanding that the secret meeting you're talking about was basically just a meeting without you present but with everyone else there, and a bunch more, where a bunch of members who wanted you to go away all voted on whether to evict you. I don't know if a meeting like that is "secret," really. I understand that you're pissed at them, and your position of homelessness sucks, but is bringing that feud onto this site what you should be spending your time on? Did the document you signed contain any admissions or assertions of fact that you were agreeing to which are contrary to what you've posted in this opinion piece? —EdwardNiemand
2010-01-21 08:31:27 The SCHA bylaws state that ALL members are allowed to attend ALL board meetings. Also that the board has to post the real agenda a few days before the meeting, not a fake agenda with false items to obscure the true agenda. The board treated the former housemates as valid members and tried to treat me as a non member. The statement I signed, is kinda like the 9/11 commission, it doesn't tell you much but it covers their asses. If I had been notified of the meeting I would have gathered support as well. As it happened, they never gave me a chance to be heard or defend myself. —PxlAted
2010-01-21 08:35:56 What does a fake agenda with false items look like? At any rate, the rant is in the first person, which doesn't let any other editors apply factual corrections without putting words in your mouth. —EdwardNiemand
2010-01-21 08:43:59 It looks like "house dynamics" when it was really "3 hour rant about pxl." I was told that night that they were going to meet about me by one board member, but I assumed it was the start of the grievance process, not the meeting to evict me. What makes it all the more frustrating is that we have such a good lease and grievance policy in place which I thought were my rights, so much for those! —PxlAted
2010-01-21 09:19:29 It's clear who wrote it and whose opinion it is. It provides another perspective, which others can judge for themselves. When we have pages concerning local politics, people take sides and describe them in the main text. I don't see how this is different. There is often a pro and con. If someone wants to respond to Pxl's allegations, they can. Yes, he mentions particular people, but it's not as though he is calling them derogatory names. Even restaurant reviews often mention particular people. I think it should stay. —CovertProfessor
2010-01-21 09:24:04 How does one respond to the allegation that the board members are "petty bourgeoisie," cp? —EdwardNiemand
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Roll your eyes, laugh, and/or cite it as an example about just how grounded his argument really is? I agree with CP. I don't think it should be removed. I think you're better off responding to the allegations (the ones that are real allegations, anyway) if you so choose. Simply sweeping the accusations under the rug isn't going to do you any good. If the issue becomes too big over the course of discussion, you could always just start a /Controversy page, and Pxl could just leave a summary of the accusations in the main text with a link. — TomGarberson
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Ok, perhaps that should be edited out. :-) —cp
2010-01-21 09:47:27 RE: the Class reference. For people who pay attention to Class issues, this is an important point, especially with an affordable housing provider. —PxlAted
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Pxl, you're assuming that everyone will know what that means. You're better off describing the behavior rather than slapping a label on it. —cp
2010-01-21 10:29:02 I'm confused about the first person narrative letter being included in the body of the article rather than the comments. It's a personal letter from someone, so I as an editor can't change it or modify it without putting words in his mouth. If I want to write stuff on just about any wiki pages, and "immortalize" it from being corrected or altered by other editors, can I just write it in a narrative form and label it as a letter from myself about the article's subject too? We should either shift the complaint to the comments section, or PxlAted should let us re-engineer it to have the encyclopedic voice of a wiki article, so that we can tweak it as we please. Otherwise, he just gets a private section of the article to himself that we are prevented from editing. —EdwardNiemand
Encyclopedic? Please understand that we're closer to
Ward's wiki than Wikipedia. We aren't trying to be an encyclopedia. —WilliamLewis
If its in his voice, I can't edit it without putting words in his mouth. That's my complaint. If it's in an encyclopedic voice, and not in his voice, I can edit it without putting words in his mouth. If nobody sees the same problem with this that I do, then I will proceed to edit his letter to the world at large which he has inserted into the article and apply the corrections to it that I see fit. -EN
It isn't uncommon to find open letters around the wiki. This one is a bit long, and like some such, they often get dropped to a sub page. You do understand that Wikipedia is an aberrant wiki, and that most wikis practice such things as the
WikiNow rather than NPOV or encyclopedic voice. There's no rule on how to handle something like this — sometimes they are left alone, sometimes they are fenced out as a block that stands alone (via quotes or other layout tools), and sometimes they are absorbed. When the whole entry is first person it's a bit more sticky, because that really is a barrier to cooperative editing. This could go either way. Keep in mind that as an person involved in the actual subject, his letter is an actual primary representation of part of the subject of the entry, just like a photo of a park is an actual primary representation of the park, or the City Statutes on the wiki are actual representations of the subject and shouldn't be edited other than to correct or annotate them. As such, the letter itself may be something that is worth keeping as part of the history of the subject of the entry. Or it may be a discardable rant in this case. (And sometimes rants are worth keeping — because when the rants are from the subject of the entry, they may best represent the subject). My point is that there are cases in which an open letter — especially from a directly involved person — is part of the documentation of the subject rather than just a wiki edit. As to if this falls into that category... well, I haven't untangled this ball yet, so I honestly have zero opinion on the subject. -jw
2010-01-21 12:19:16 Why not just move it to the comments section? That's where feedback normally goes for any business, including for every apartment in the city. Other SCHA members might disagree about the details of what happened, and it's not the place of the wiki itself to provide judgments on internal conflicts. By leaving it in the "facts" section, Pxl's account is essentially presented as *fact* rather than a single point of view. I agree that editing it as is would be problematic, because it is clearly the opinion of Pxl, and it wouldn't be fair to edit Pxl's opinion. But moving it to comments solves that issue. —IDoNotExist
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Agreed. - EN
2010-01-21 12:21:15 I don't understand why this isn't in the comments section - isn't that the natural home for windy personal rants and recounting of personal histories about the article subject? —rfrazier
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Why?
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it makes more sense organizationally, and putting reviews and personal comments in the "comments" section appears to be the general pattern and prctice of this wiki.
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You can think of many pages on the wiki as divided into a "factual" or "informational" section, and an "opinion" or "discussion" section. The "factual" section describes the subject of the page, and it is generally what the wiki community agrees on. The "discussion" section is a collection of opinions and discussion by wiki readers about the subject of the page. The discussions generally have lots of personal opinions. Editors don't usually change those, because those are individual people's opinions, and we don't want to effectively put different words in someone else's mouth. In this case, Pxl's statement is a (rather long) opinion. As such, it isn't a factual description by the wiki community, but something that we can't really edit without changing Pxl's opinions. So it belongs in the discussion. —IDoNotExist
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Because it's a COMMENT. Do you seriously need some kind of justification for why a person's open letter commenting on the subject of an article should naturally go in a section for comments? Putting his assertions in the main article, invulnerable to our corrective edits, impute an undiserved sense of undisputed factuality. They need to go. - Niemand
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Why not have opinion in the entry?
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Because, given the structure of the wiki, it reads as fact. It also gives much greater weight to that opinion than to any comments in the comments section. It also removes the chronological context of that particular opinion from those of people who post in comments. —IDoNotExist
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So, stop editing using comments. Put your opinion up as a first class edit. What's wrong with that?
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If it is opinion, it shouldn't be presented as fact. Think of it as if it were a paper like you wrote in college. You have to make it very clear which parts are your work, and which parts are the works of others, through citation, quotation, indentation, etc. There's not one specific format for it, but it needs to be unambiguous. In the case of the wiki, the *context* of the wiki has a whole has factual info on the top and opinions on the bottom. Placing Pxl's content in the top section makes it appear to be a set of facts agreed upon by the wiki community rather than the opinions of a single person. —IDoNotExist
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That reasoning terrifies the pants off me. It disempowers individuals, creates ghettos of second class content, and sucks the vitality from entries. It turns a person's viewpoint into something to be pushed into a corner for "THE WIKI"'s "official" view. And that sucks for each and every individual of the community and diminishes them as human beings.
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If any second-class content tries to escape from the disempowerment ghetto for comments we have created, it will be shot. We have dogs. -Niemand.
*I think this letter should be in the Comments section. I also find it hard to follow discussions of this sort when people don't sign their names to their part of the discussion; e.g., "Why not have opinion in the entry?" —DonShor
2010-01-21 13:00:02
iawte
*sigh*
Davis Wiki is not supposed to be divided into a factual and an opinion section. Yet, everyone expects this now. I think I'm going to go off and cry now.
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We can be so much more than a community-driven yelp clone. Please stop importing best practices from them and Wikipedia and let us be our own, awesome, multiple point of view thing.
2010-01-21 13:18:00 Ok, so if we have individual opinions mixed in with facts, how do I tell what is true (or at least agreed upon), and what is opinion? What should I give heavy weight to? What should I ignore? How do I make an informed decision? —IDoNotExist
2010-01-21 13:39:45 Opinion should be labeled. In this case, it is. In this case, it's also a major portion of the entry, with which some people clearly disagree. My thought is that it belong somewhere other than the main entry, not because it's opinion, but because by the time there are a couple of responses to it, it's going to crowd out everything else on the page. IMO the controversy should be freely visible to the public, if the editors so choose, but it shouldn't become the defining feature of the SCHA page.
Which is why I think it should be at most a short entry in the main body, with the bulk of discussion on it elsewhere—the Talk page, a Controversy page, or the comments. —TomGarberson
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Kind of like what happened to Cal.NET, with a comment ("An angry and extensive review of that service and mostly of the company circa 2003/2004 can be read here.") and the big rant moved to [[Cal.NET/Business and MDL Review 2004"]?
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Yup, that's what I meant by "dropped to a sub page". In a couple cases, it's happened with notable back and forth long rants. This one is a bit different, as s/he's a member, so it's somewhere between a customer and the editor emails in the Cal Aggie controversy entry (which is, of course, another example of a sub page). This is all still a bit general "ways it's been done" on my part, and I might change my mind when/if I read the thing... Heh. (Incidentally, dropping to a sub page also diminishes the impact of the individual's statement, so while it is current and relevant, it may best be placed on the main entry). -jw
2010-01-21 15:58:29 I really appreciate the helpful edits everyone has been making. I think down the road moving the letter to a subpage and leaving a well written and easily editable controversy section on the main page would be best for SCHA longterm, to allow for continued whistle blowing. Part of my frustration with the whole eviction is that I was never given a chance to be heard, so I would appreciate keeping it in the foreground for a while, at least until Max and Ben step down, the board responds or the letter is no longer current. —PxlAted
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Kind of like construction photos, appropriate while things are ongoing, moved off to a construction page when it's done. -jw
2010-03-01 16:06:05 Discussion or opinions on entry content vs comments and talk? Let's get fair and open dialog about the changes. —Carl
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Opinions are often part of an entry comment — this is not an NPOV wiki. In my opinion, this is an important issue and should not be banished to the comments. If there is another perspective to be heard, then add it to the page. —CovertProfessor
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By the way, keep in mind that Talk pages are temporary spaces to sort out editing issues. This content will all be deleted as the editing side of things finishes. There is, however, a big difference between adding opinion to an entry about a subject and overwhelming a subject with a semi-related subject. That's why I suggested that it be moved to a sub-entry and then a summary of the controversy be placed in the main entry. As it turned out, the letter was moved to the Davis Voice instead. That works as well. Why would you want the summary as it stands moved off the entry at this point? It seems to document an incident in the SCHA history, which is relevant to an entry about the SCHA. —jw


