This page is for discussing the contents of the Town Characters page.
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Not sure this quite raises up to a Town character, anybody want to support it? —JabberWokky
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another vote for removal. Individuals can be characters, groups can't.
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agreed, and also vote for removal for about a third of the list. <.<
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Which other ones would you suggest for removal? —JasonAller
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Philip doesn't quite fit the bill. —CraigBrozinsky
I'm just going to vote keep for all, because I think this discussion is too crazy to really accomplish anything. Bring 'em up one at a time, if at all. —BrentLaabs
We might need a current and former split to the list?
Keep or Drop
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Arthur Shapiro AKA "The Homeless Professor" — Keep, Keep.
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Unique enough. I vote keep. —JoseBleckman
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Keep. -wl
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Barnabas Truman, big guy with the cape and beard and horns and staff get-up — Still current? Drop.
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Haven't ever really heard of this. Drop. —JoseBleckman
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Keep and perhaps move to a former resident section. Lives in Napa now, but was quite visible when he went to school here. -wl
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He is still around campus, and finishing his Masters.. though this means he is also teaching in Napa, he does dance with the pryanksters.. though I am not really sure he is unique in terms of Davis, I think of him as just an example of the typical local awesomeness. Former? ~D
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Brian Campbell, the guy who lives in the Human Powered Housing Project — Former? Keep as 'former'.
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I've vaguely heard about him, but I'm leaning towards drop. —JoseBleckman
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Rather famous in the car-free community. Former resident, though. Move to former resident section. -wl
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Former, definitely, I have seen him about.
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Canadian Softwood, the most winningest trivia team in the history of Sophia's — Drop Drop.
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Drop. —JoseBleckman
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Nobody really cares about these people. A group, not a character. Drop. -wl
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these guys are well known at sophia's (a davis institute) i say keep
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keep! they are hated but very well known—HeatherClaire
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... keep I suppose, but we need a section for groups.. also, I would like to call into question, how long have they been winningest, and can we get a reference of some sort? ~D
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Dance Dance Revolution Guy — ? Drop.
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Drop. —JoseBleckman
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Generally unknown even among those in the gamer subculture. Drop. -wl
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Hey.. who do you know in that subculture? this guy is really good actually, I have seen him, I am a bit hesitant though as he is not really.. unique really, there is no special sense about him, so I guess drop from this list, but keep the page. ~D On second thought.. keep him as a former, because he was unique, but now is no longer so.
* Keep, he is a local Davisite Daubert
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Davis Baby for Peace, the youngest community activist — ? Keep I guess.
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A one time thing, where we'll never be able to identify the "Town Character" again. Drop. —JoseBleckman
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Drop. Some parents putting an agenda in their child's mouth. Few know who this kid is. Definitely not recognizable around town. -wl
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Drop.. really I can say that it is a Davis idea, but not a Davis character.. he is more of a plot device so drop ~D
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Drop. same reasons as above -MasonMurray
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George's Corner — Keep. Keep.
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Not a person, ergo, not a character. The dude behind the place, meeeebeee. -wl
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Harmonica Man — ? Keep.
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Dunno who this dude is... not that notable. -wl
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Well.. if he is the harmonica man, it does say something about him being unique, keep then? ~D
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Drop. He may or may not even live in Davis. -MasonMurray
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Hugging Guy — ? Keep.
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Keep. —JoseBleckman
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Keep. -wl
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Hugs for him, Keep. ~D
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Very Keep. I woulda been creeped out if I ever met him, now I won't, thanks to this page. -MasonMurray
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Joe Sherman AKA Crazy Joe — ? Keep.
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Keep. —JoseBleckman
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Keep. -wl
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Keep. -MasonMurray
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Mathletes, Runner-up team to Canadian Softwood — Drop Drop.
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Drop. —JoseBleckman
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Nobody really cares about these people. A group, not a character. Drop. -wl
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The winningest team sure, if that is anyway historic, but second best, not a chance, maybe a mention in the brief of the winningest but not an entry, drop. ~D
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Tom Waltz — I was never sure about this listing. Keep.
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Drop, the only reason here is here is too make fun of him and that detracts and turns the right peoplethat the wiki wants to attract (intelligent respectful individuals) off.
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Old Guys at the MU — ? Drop.
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Really? I dunno, they could be unique.. old guys at a college, many folk may wonder who they are.. think about this one?
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PhilipNeustrom — Good question. Drop
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Drop. —JoseBleckman
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Maybe we need a Wiki Characters page. :-)
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Agreed, that would be bemusing because many folk live here but not in Davis. ~D
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Rob Roy as the Ku Klux Klown — Keep. Drop (wasn't it just one day for a few hours?)
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Drop. One time thing, for one. —JoseBleckman
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Drop. Rob Roy is a character, this persona is not. -wl
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Scooter Man — Keep. Keep.
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Dunno who this dude is. Drop? -wl
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Will, you don't know half the things about town, you never leave and venture out enough, keep, this guy is noticeable and pretty awesome, unique and regularly apparent, raising questions from folks, keep. ~D
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Tarzan Guy — Keep? Keep as former.
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Dunno who this dude is. Drop? -wl
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Again, you don't know much, Keep, he was at the last wiki tabling in the farmer's market even. ~D
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omg keep
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keep keep! I had no idea he was tarzan man before
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Two-Step — ?
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wtf? Drop. -wl
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Keep, if nothing else these folk are distinctive, and they really live in the town more than most folk ever do. ~D
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Visor Lady — Status? Keep.
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Keep. —JoseBleckman
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Keep. -wl
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Anyone seen her around these days? ~D
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Von Howard — ? ?
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Dunno who this dude is. Drop? -wl
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Oh.. I am starting to be cynical about your position on these matters.. again this guy seems like a character, I would hope that this listing can help more people expand on these pages, keep. ~D
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Yelling Preacher on the Quad — Keep? Keep!
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Keep. —JoseBleckman
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Not even a specific person. Tons of different people do this. Drop. -wl
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Keep, I know it isn't a person per se, but it is still a character, regular and identifiable. ~D
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Keep if for no other reason than it's funny. -MasonMurray
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I should add that if any of these characters express that they don't want a page, they should be removed. —JoseBleckman
I would like to suggest the formation of a principle which provides the necessary and proper conditions for being a town character, I would like to suggest the traits of being a unique character that is identifiable, and that the person was in davis sufficiently to be remembered in the general memory, essentially that they can be named in a sense and people would have a vague idea of how one speaks. Alternatively we can go by the knowledge of William Lewis, who implicitly holds the determining factor of town character-ness by the fact of his knowledge of the individual or not. Amusing that some of these folk were unique, but now are not.. raises question to the meaning of former... anyway, enjoy. Oh and Will, get out more. ~D
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Perhaps the category is too restricting. It seems like the result, currently, is either to show what an interesting and educated/intelligent individual (praise), or to show the oddities and sideshowesque nature of the category. I realize that it is a work in progress and the idea is to refine the information so that people will learn more about the "Characters" (which suggests a sideshow) Obviously respect and dignity should be the prime filter, and then possibly information and permission(no objection, no problem)
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I'm just going to vote Keep all. We can deal with specific problems as they arise. —BrentLaabs
Jessica J. Jessica
While she probably wouldn't fit on this list, I humbly submit that
Jessica J. Jessica (née Jessica L. Blickley, according to the observant Nick) should be noted somewhere on the wiki. She's a character (not a real person), but she did get written up in Egghead, and captures the lighter side of the research at the University. —JabberWokky
General discussion
Recently there has been some discussion in the Wiki Community about how pages for people listed on the Town Characters page should be handled. After some discussion a redirect to one person has been removed and all mention of that phrase has been erased. There is ongoing discussion about removing a page about another individual.
The Wiki Community needs to hash out this issue in a productive and respectful manner.
"Individuals who rise to collective awareness"
*It doesn't seem that the discusion is here quite yet, but I'd like to hazard my opinion. I would feel rather uncumfortable being the subject of a Town Characters article, but at the same time, it is the right of the people as a whole to voice their own ideas. I would not be happy, however I would do as Joe Sherman has done and join in the discussion. I would not want it taken down. Now, maybe that's just me, I don't know, but it seems to me that it's the same thing as gossip. Should you tell stories about other people? Well, it may be rude, and you don't really want to do it to their face, but near everybody does. In short: Is it rude? Yeah, probably, and if someone demands their own page taken down it should be done. Should pages about people be created? Yes, and they should be kept mild and fair as they are now. -MasonMurray
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2008-12-10 09:19:01 I can't imagine that the "smelliest man" is aware of his space on the town characters list, but I know that if I were this fellow, I wouldn't want my own page. I vote that we drop his listing for privacy reasons (: —Angel.York
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To be fair, if even half the stories about him are true, then he probably doesn't care about, and may even revel in, his status here on the wiki and around town. —JoePomidor


