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I should add that if any of these characters express that they don't want a page, they should be removed. —JoseBleckman

I would like to suggest the formation of a principle which provides the necessary and proper conditions for being a town character, I would like to suggest the traits of being a unique character that is identifiable, and that the person was in davis sufficiently to be remembered in the general memory, essentially that they can be named in a sense and people would have a vague idea of how one speaks. Alternatively we can go by the knowledge of William Lewis, who implicitly holds the determining factor of town character-ness by the fact of his knowledge of the individual or not. Amusing that some of these folk were unique, but now are not.. raises question to the meaning of former... anyway, enjoy. Oh and Will, get out more. ~D

Jessica J. Jessica

While she probably wouldn't fit on this list, I humbly submit that [WWW]Jessica J. Jessica (née Jessica L. Blickley, according to the observant Nick) should be noted somewhere on the wiki. She's a character (not a real person), but she did get written up in Egghead, and captures the lighter side of the research at the University. —JabberWokky

General discussion

Recently there has been some discussion in the Wiki Community about how pages for people listed on the Town Characters page should be handled. After some discussion a redirect to one person has been removed and all mention of that phrase has been erased. There is ongoing discussion about removing a page about another individual.

The Wiki Community needs to hash out this issue in a productive and respectful manner.

"Individuals who rise to collective awareness"

2008-12-10 09:19:01   I can't imagine that the "smelliest man" is aware of his space on the town characters list, but I know that if I were this fellow, I wouldn't want my own page. I vote that we drop his listing for privacy reasons (: —Angel.York

2010-11-01 16:24:44   A couple of these descriptions specifically point out some mental and physical deficiency. The one that bothers me the most is Electric Trike Guy. This guy bothers noone-really is only on here because of his transportation. This could be very well be due to a physical disability that limits his walking. I think this is crude to spotlight someone because of this and request it be removed. —Users/PeterBoulay

2010-11-01 17:34:26   Yeah, the Visor Lady page always bothered me like that and I think alot of it has to do with peoples specific experiences with those described in these pages. Most of the people who support the visor lady page seem to be ucd students of the typical age who feel entitled to some sort of explanation of why somebody unlike them is in "their" MU. —NickSchmalenberger

2011-05-15 09:31:48   Maybe we should delete all the "characters" who are not referred to by some form of their actual name. Theres a lot more to most people than their apparent attributes from a few encounters, and the name they call themself is a good place to start. If we don't even know somebody's name, maybe its not appropriate to talk about them like this here? —NickSchmalenberger Cowboy guy keeps to himself, and is clearly a town character... Just cause we don't know his name we should axe him from the list?

This issue has come up repeatedly, both in the general Town Characters context and for a variety of individuals. There's never been anything close to the sort of consensus needed to make a systematic change. Unless anyone wants to take the issue up again, deleting the talk page June 1. —TomGarberson

2011-08-11 03:40:37   Davis is not a cartoon show, and people shouldn't be portrayed on the wiki as caricatures with us being the cartoonists. Thats how it is when we make a page about somebody without at least having the name that they call themself first. —NickSchmalenberger

2011-08-11 11:27:47   As per a suggestion just phoned into me by another editor, I think the page should be renamed to People Commonly Noticed Around Town or Locally Recognizable People. Steve Davison has previously suggested "Local Personalities", which I'm leaning to now simply since it's less wordy. Something along those lines anyway. If nobody has strong opinions on what it should be, I'll probably just go ahead and make the change later today. —ScottMeehleib

2011-08-11 17:49:13   I like keeping it as a page that is "who the heck is that person?" as opposed to prominent people. I say drop the city council members... —ScottLay

2011-08-11 18:02:50   I wish I was a Town Character. In a good way. —jsbmeb

2011-08-11 21:54:04   A lot of people are having a hard time understanding where I'm coming from... so I'll make it really simple. People have a right to privacy unless they are public figures or have given permission to be written about. Just hanging out a lot in public, as most of these people do, does not allow a person to be considered a public figure. For example, the guy who some of you refer as "Harmonica Guy" has a right to get up in the morning without having to deal with having pictures of him on the Internet along with a description that states that he looks similar to a hobo who has had a hard life. Maybe he cares... maybe he doesn't, but the point is, unless he has given explicit permission to be described in that way, he shouldn't have to deal with that intrusive BS. —ScottMeehleib

2011-08-11 21:59:48   And, you know what, ultimately, I'm not even going to take those entries down. I think they should be taken down, but I don't want to get involved in that battle. All I'm asking is for a name change and slight widening of the scope of the page to include all recognizable figures. And as I said, I would support Nick's idea if it came to a vote. That's all. I wasn't going to remove anything, and I have yet to hear a good reason why I shouldn't be able to incorporate my minor proposed changes. —ScottMeehleib

2011-08-12 03:15:44   When I lived on Haussler Drive, I would see Electric Trike Guy or his trike and I sometimes thought to myself, whats with that guy? I thought his cart was kind of silly looking. Eventually I realized these were mean thoughts and I'm just lucky to be able bodied. If being able bodied is just a matter of luck, then theres really nothing to say about people who aren't. Its self explanatory. Lots of people in town use electric wheel chairs too, and his looks a little different, but again so what? Maybe we should link the page from Unique Vehicles instead of this page, because thats really whats striking about it as the title somewhat indicates. The vehicle doesn't define him!

Also all of the controversy over names on google has made me think alot about the names here, and if somebody prefers some name even if its not their legal name, we should respect that. Descriptive nicknames make sense though for the preachers because there isn't one individual. —NickSchmalenberger

2011-08-12 10:39:04   I guess I can't get worked up over "Town Characters" vs "Local Personalities." It doesn't matter much to me either way. —CovertProfessor

2011-08-12 11:38:29   Ultimately, if I'm literally the only person who thinks that town characters has a negative connotation whereas local personalities does not, then I guess I don't really care what the page is called. —ScottMeehleib

2011-08-12 13:11:01   I see both the samurai jogger lady and the electric trike guy are gone. Both are my contributions. Victims of political correctness without an overriding consensus. Fine. Keep your white-bread page. —JimStewart

2011-08-12 19:04:51   Why was electric trike guy removed from the town characters page? —StevenDaubert

2011-08-13 09:58:35   Character aka notable person. Too much PCness for "local personalities" and that will just end up offending someone else down the road.

Also when we meet someone who seems "extreme" or very "intense" for any reason, we refer to them as "quite the character" and that's what these people are; notable individuals for a specific aspect of their personality, not their entire personality. Notable because they almost seem like a fictional character. When the english language changes and we refer to them as "quite the personality" I'd say the change makes sense. Until then please stop finding offense at any term that's been in use for more than five years. —OliviaY

2011-08-13 10:03:55   Unless we want to call them "Townie NPCs" ala The Sims. I'd totally be down for that mwahahahaha. —OliviaY

2011-08-16 20:13:43   Is "For the past few years USA Network has held nationwide searches for local characters, from Iowa cheerleaders who can say anything backwards to the Naked Cowboy in New York. Similarly inspired, here's our own list of folks who add spice to Davis life." a good comparison? Wouldn't these people agree to be on TV? I don't think we can say that about some of the people on this page. —NickSchmalenberger

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