Recent Changes for "Users/Aaron.Curtin" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.CurtinRecent Changes of the page "Users/Aaron.Curtin" on Davis Wiki.en-us Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2014-11-05 03:43:30JabberWokkyRevert to version 174 (Despam). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 257: </td> <td> Line 257: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2014-11-05 03:14:41'' [[nbsp]] hello<br> - it give me a great pleasure to write you after viewing your profile which really interest me to have communication with you,if you will have the desire with me so that we can get to know each other and see what happened in future.i will be very happy if you can write me through my email for easiest communication,my email is (joyngah02@live.com) i will be waiting to hear from you,have a blessed day.<br> - joy. --["Users/joyngah"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2014-11-05 03:15:48'' [[nbsp]] hello<br> - it give me a great pleasure to write you after viewing your profile which really interest me to have communication with you,if you will have the desire with me so that we can get to know each other and see what happened in future.i will be very happy if you can write me through my email for easiest communication,my email is (joyngah02@live.com) i will be waiting to hear from you,have a blessed day.<br> - joy. --["Users/joyngah"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2014-11-05 03:15:48joyngahComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 261: </td> <td> Line 261: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2014-11-05 03:15:48'' [[nbsp]] hello<br> + it give me a great pleasure to write you after viewing your profile which really interest me to have communication with you,if you will have the desire with me so that we can get to know each other and see what happened in future.i will be very happy if you can write me through my email for easiest communication,my email is (joyngah02@live.com) i will be waiting to hear from you,have a blessed day.<br> + joy. --["Users/joyngah"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2014-11-05 03:14:41joyngahComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 257: </td> <td> Line 257: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2014-11-05 03:14:41'' [[nbsp]] hello<br> + it give me a great pleasure to write you after viewing your profile which really interest me to have communication with you,if you will have the desire with me so that we can get to know each other and see what happened in future.i will be very happy if you can write me through my email for easiest communication,my email is (joyngah02@live.com) i will be waiting to hear from you,have a blessed day.<br> + joy. --["Users/joyngah"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-27 10:48:20Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 23: </td> <td> Line 23: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> If you happen to get a bike flat somewhere in town and happen to see his <span>S</span>ilver Honda Ridgeline, he always carries tools, a pump and spare tubes. He'll even give you a lift if needed. </td> <td> <span>+</span> If you happen to get a bike flat somewhere in town and happen to see his <span>s</span>ilver Honda Ridgeline<span>&nbsp;or white Honda minivan with APEX stickers</span>, he always carries tools, a pump and spare tubes. He'll even give you a lift if needed. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-18 17:21:05Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 25: </td> <td> Line 25: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Favorite Foods: </td> <td> <span>+</span> <span>'''</span>Favorite Foods:<span>'''</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-18 08:43:48Aaron.CurtinMy food choices <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 24: </td> <td> Line 24: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Favorite Foods:<br> + <br> + Sushi - ["Zen Toro"] hands down. Go 1-2 times a week<br> + Indian - ["Kathmandu Kitchen"], ["Raja's"] Owners are so genuinely nice, best nann bread ever<br> + Thai - ["Thai Nakorn"] Nicest people around, ["Thai Canteen"] Cheap and good<br> + Chinese - ["Shanghai Town"] Most authentic I've found in town, ["Hunan"] One of the best lunch deals in town, ["Davis Noodle City"] Love the chicken chowmien and 5 spice beef noodle soup<br> + Sandwich - ["Zia's Delicatessen"] Meatball on a soft roll w/ $1 worth of pastrami, ["Beach Hut Deli"] North shore minus the ham<br> + Brunch - ["Konditorei"], ["Cafe Bernardo"], ["Crepeville"]<br> + Burger - ["In-N-Out"] Cheeseburger, animals style, protein style with fry light french fries, ["Burgers and Brew"] Spicy Guacamole Burger<br> + Pizza - ["Village Bakery"] Veggie<br> + Gelato/Yogurt - ["Icekrimski Cafe"] Coconut macadamia nut, ["Swirl"] I know its ["Cultivé Frozen Yogurt"] now, but it will always be Swirls to me. Try the Taro flavor, reminds me of Ubi ice cream. If you know what that is, you get a brownie point.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-17 11:15:51CovertProfessor(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 235: </td> <td> Line 235: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * I agree, not all of my edits are productive and<span>&nbsp;that</span> I have done things in frustration and anger that I have regretted later, here on the wiki and elsewhere. </td> <td> <span>+</span> * I agree, not all of my edits are productive and I have done things in frustration and anger that I have regretted later, here on the wiki and elsewhere. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-17 11:14:16CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 233: </td> <td> Line 233: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> There are a bunch of issues mixed together here, so let me separate them out and respond one at a time. We don't all walk in lockstep, agreeing on everything.<span><br> - * I am not a "popular" editor; I am a frequent editor who has pissed off every single one of the other frequent editors on more than one occasion.</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> There are a bunch of issues mixed together here, so let me separate them out and respond one at a time<span>.<br> + * I am not a "popular" editor; I am a frequent editor who has pissed off every single one of the other frequent editors on more than one occasion</span>. We don't all walk in lockstep, agreeing on everything. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-17 11:13:48CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 232: </td> <td> Line 232: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + There are a bunch of issues mixed together here, so let me separate them out and respond one at a time. We don't all walk in lockstep, agreeing on everything.<br> + * I am not a "popular" editor; I am a frequent editor who has pissed off every single one of the other frequent editors on more than one occasion.<br> + * I agree, not all of my edits are productive and that I have done things in frustration and anger that I have regretted later, here on the wiki and elsewhere.<br> + * Thank you for the apology. Prior to this, you defended your actions and then said you wanted to move on. I would find it hard to work with someone who felt that such actions were legitimate. Now that you have apologized, I can move on and not bring up the subject again.<br> + * It was fine for you to point out that whoever PB talked to was misinformed. That's why we waited two weeks for your response -- to hear your side of things.<br> + * I see PB's checking up on your business as an issue of consistency. If someone is going to make a big stink about other businesses, as you did, then they should expect that they will be examined in the same fashion. They are in effect saying that these are the standards that they wish to be held by and by which they hold others. I am sorry if you see that as retaliatory, but I don't.<br> + * I agree with you that being popular has nothing to do with comments that stay on EZ-Smog, but I never said otherwise. My comment on the talk page was directed at the topic of the page, not at you. I don't know why you insist on thinking that it had something to do with you. I only responded to you when it seemed that you were criticizing my claim that the comment should stay on the page.<br> + <br> + --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-17 08:44:44Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 230: </td> <td> Line 230: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * I never said you did. I'm generalizing that you popular editors like to tag team and at times are just as unproductive as anyone else. I admit that much of what I have said recently has no benefit to the wiki, its the fact that I can't stand the condescending attitude from you guys (another generalization). Look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if you can truly say you've never said or done anything in frustration/anger that you later regret. I apologize, if I didn't make it clear that I did before (and will probably have to apologize for the rest of my time on DW) for my actions and hope to make it a better place for all. But I will not stand by and let the opinions of a select few try directly or indirectly make me out to be the villain. I was merely pointing out that whomever PB talked to was misinformed, but I did see it as a direct retaliation for my previous actions. If it truly was just to be fair, why not do it for ALL the shops, not just mine. He can "shrug* all he wants, but thats how it looks and again, I know first hand how appearances play a factor on DW. But of course you had to chime in as well. Was it productive and in the benefit of DW, some might say yes, and some might say no, but it did come off as snarky. Again, something that I was crucified for being. But in regards to EZ smog, I was totally justified in my opinion that PB made a mistake in mentioning the popularity of an editor to justify her stand on the matter. So no matter how childish I may sound at times there is relevance to that post. But you nor PB were able to see that. You popular editors (again a generalization), saw that it was me and started to jump down my throat. It would appear I was not the only child on the playground that day. - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 20:20:13PeteB <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 232: </td> <td> Line 232: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * To answer TG's thought-I called the vendors originally out of his concern that a competitor was inappropriately listing names of companies they were not authorized dealers for. If you are going to be concerned about the listings for other providers, I thought it reasonable to check for him too. Only after my research did I discover competitor's page no longer has the listings but the work had already been done. In no way was it retaliatory--it was being fair. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 19:43:05TomGarbersonNot sure this is any better, but... that's it from me. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 231: </td> <td> Line 231: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ''2013-07-16 20:35:20'' [[nbsp]] Thank you for cleaning up the ["A1 Smog"] page, Aaron. --["Users/TomGarberson"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ ''2013-07-16 20:35:20'' [[nbsp]] Thank you for cleaning up the ["A1 Smog"] page, Aaron. I hope you don't mind that I'm staying out of this whole thing. After having had to file a lawsuit after bullshit that grew out of wiki drama, I don't have much stomach for it. I'll just note that I think everyone involved seems to be editing angry again, and it doesn't seem very constructive. Calling your vendors did seem a bit retaliatory, and I'm not a fan of that. But I think today's discussion is only making things worse. --["Users/TomGarberson"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 19:35:20TomGarbersonComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 230: </td> <td> Line 230: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-07-16 20:35:20'' [[nbsp]] Thank you for cleaning up the ["A1 Smog"] page, Aaron. --["Users/TomGarberson"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 18:43:19CovertProfessorComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 228: </td> <td> Line 228: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-07-16 19:43:19'' [[nbsp]] I didn't make that remark about "popular" editors -- PB did. I don't know why you keep mixing me up in that. --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 18:42:23Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 226: </td> <td> Line 226: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Sure, and we can go on about how you as a "popular" editor can make all the snide comments you wish with no recourse. The kettle calling the pot black as it were. - AC</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 18:39:58CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 225: </td> <td> Line 225: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> And sure, we can get back into how you sockpuppeted and used that sockpuppet to criticize a competitor, then acted like a spoiled child. But hey, none of that reflects well on you, so I would drop it. Even better, admit that you behaved badly. Look, all that was needed her was for you to set the record straight on which companies you are in fact authorized for. But you've come back with an attitude, so now you're making yourself and everyone miserable. Doesn't have to be that way, but that's the bed you've made. --cp </td> <td> <span>+</span> And sure, we can get back into how you sockpuppeted and used that sockpuppet to criticize a competitor, then acted like a spoiled child. But hey, none of that reflects well on you, so I would drop it. Even better, admit that you behaved badly. Look, all that was needed her<span>e</span> was for you to set the record straight on which companies you are in fact authorized for. But you've come back with an attitude, so now you're making yourself and everyone miserable. Doesn't have to be that way, but that's the bed you've made. --cp </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 18:39:40CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 225: </td> <td> Line 225: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ And sure, we can get back into how you sockpuppeted and used that sockpuppet to criticize a competitor, then acted like a spoiled child. But hey, none of that reflects well on you, so I would drop it. Even better, admit that you behaved badly. Look, all that was needed her was for you to set the record straight on which companies you are in fact authorized for. But you've come back with an attitude, so now you're making yourself and everyone miserable. Doesn't have to be that way, but that's the bed you've made. --cp</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 18:36:37Aaron.Curtin <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 222: </td> <td> Line 222: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> You don't have to "buy it", you have to accept it because DW is a ["MPOV"] wiki. I'm sure you were "curious", based off of you back handed/snide remark back on 07/02. - Aaron </td> <td> <span>+ </span> You don't have to "buy it", you have to accept it because DW is a ["MPOV"] wiki. I'm sure you were "curious", based off of you back handed/snide remark back on 07/02. <span>And I didn't need to extend that courtesy, because I new for a fact that my competitor had no place claiming something that was false. Its because of the one sided battle with the "popular" editors that I stayed away from the wiki for a while, but we can get back into it if you wish. </span>- Aaron<span><br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 18:34:07CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 223: </td> <td> Line 223: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ You can consider it snide if you like. But in fact, it was a second invitation (PB's was the first) for you to respond. But do I have to accept that you are an innocent party here? No, I don't have to. --cp</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 18:30:19Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 221: </td> <td> Line 221: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + You don't have to "buy it", you have to accept it because DW is a ["MPOV"] wiki. I'm sure you were "curious", based off of you back handed/snide remark back on 07/02. - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 18:07:16CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 220: </td> <td> Line 220: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2013-07-16 19:06:53'' [[nbsp]] PB gave you lots of time to respond before editing the page for your business, and then when he did edit the page, merely deleted the claims that were, as best as he could tell, false. That is far more courtesy than you extended to your competitors. You keep trying to act the injured party here, but I am not buying it. --["Users/CovertProfessor"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2013-07-16 19:06:53'' [[nbsp]] PB gave you lots of time <span>(two weeks) </span>to respond before editing the page for your business, and then when he did edit the page, merely deleted the claims that were, as best as he could tell, false. That is far more courtesy than you extended to your competitors. You keep trying to act the injured party here, but I am not buying it. --["Users/CovertProfessor"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 18:06:53CovertProfessorComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 219: </td> <td> Line 219: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-07-16 19:06:53'' [[nbsp]] PB gave you lots of time to respond before editing the page for your business, and then when he did edit the page, merely deleted the claims that were, as best as he could tell, false. That is far more courtesy than you extended to your competitors. You keep trying to act the injured party here, but I am not buying it. --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 16:32:33PeteBComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 217: </td> <td> Line 217: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-07-16 17:32:33'' [[nbsp]] I restored Biria and Lynskey. I called the #'s on the website and was given to people who I simply asked the question if you were an authorized dealer and was told no. Straight up question and I was put on hold while they researched it and said you weren't an authorized dealer. *shrug*. Maybe they have a staff issue but I am not responsible if they gave me inaccurate info --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 16:25:30PeteBComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 215: </td> <td> Line 215: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-07-16 17:25:30'' [[nbsp]] Terrific! You followed up and corrected the issue-great! That's what we were suggesting. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 16:19:32Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 213: </td> <td> Line 213: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * Wow, take a break from the wiki to let things cool down and this is where you guys want to take it. Not sure who you talked to at Biria USA and Lynskey, but according to Michael Biria @ BiriaUSA (201-461-1980) and Don Erwin, Sales Manager or Jack Kopeski, Sales Account Manager @ Lynskey Performance (423.499.5815) I I am still an authorized dealer and considered a "non stocking" dealer respectively. As for Van Dessel, I was the only dealer in the area for a long time and did not think to ever renew my dealership agreement as I always just ordered when I needed one. I'm fine with the removal of Van Dessel, but I urge you to call the names above to confirm my status with Biria and Lynskey. I await your all powerful verdicts. - Aaron (07/16/13)</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-16 14:17:41PeteBnote about removal <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 212: </td> <td> Line 212: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Due to your not responding I have removed Biria &amp; Lynskey &amp; Von Dessel from your authorized dealers list. Both of them said (Biria &amp; Lynskey)--on the phone to me-(Von Dessel informed me by email) that you are not an authorized dealer. If you are going to express concerns about other bike shops it would be appropriate to make sure your own list of authorized dealers is updated. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-13 15:23:22CovertProfessorquery <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 211: </td> <td> Line 211: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I'm curious to hear your reply to PeteB, given how concerned you were about other shops potentially misrepresenting who they are authorized dealers for. --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-07-02 20:27:44PeteBComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 207: </td> <td> Line 207: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-07-02 21:27:44'' [[nbsp]] Aaron-when you asked me to look into Cannondale, I thought to check out some of the authorized dealers you list on the APEX Cycles page. What is concerning is that a few of them-Biria Bicycles, Lynskey Titanium Bikes and Von Dessel (I spoke to 2-Von Dessel emailed me back) have stated you are NOT an authorized dealer for their bikes.<br> + <br> + I'm going to be around very sporadically for the next few weeks as my elderly mother is very ill at a local hospital, but I wanted you to have an opportunity at clarifying the issues with these 3 companies. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 14:59:14PeteB <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 206: </td> <td> Line 206: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2013-06-26 15:54:51'' [[nbsp]] Not yet-I've had some work issues come up <span>and I'm</span> doing dbl shifts the rest of the week. I<span>'ll get </span>to it when I can but work comes first. --["Users/PeteB"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2013-06-26 15:54:51'' [[nbsp]] Not yet-I've had some work issues come up <span>(server moves) and I'm now</span> doing dbl shifts the rest of the week. I<span>&nbsp;promise I'll look in</span>to it when I can but work comes first. <span>Will probably be next week at this point.</span>--["Users/PeteB"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 14:54:51PeteBComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 205: </td> <td> Line 205: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-06-26 15:54:51'' [[nbsp]] Not yet-I've had some work issues come up and I'm doing dbl shifts the rest of the week. I'll get to it when I can but work comes first. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 14:53:13jefftolentinoRevert to version 145 (Deleting duplicate (stupid phone)). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 205: </td> <td> Line 205: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2013-06-26 15:51:28'' [[nbsp]] May be worth stepping back for a bit and letting things cool off. Everyone's already fired up. --["Users/jefftolentino"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 14:51:28jefftolentinoComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 205: </td> <td> Line 205: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-06-26 15:51:28'' [[nbsp]] May be worth stepping back for a bit and letting things cool off. Everyone's already fired up. --["Users/jefftolentino"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 14:48:37jefftolentinoComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 203: </td> <td> Line 203: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-06-26 15:48:37'' [[nbsp]] May be worth stepping back for a bit and letting things cool off. Everyone's already fired up. --["Users/jefftolentino"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 09:02:46Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 200: </td> <td> Line 200: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I've moved pass the sockpuppet debacle, I took my licks like a man and fessed up to it. I updated and took credit for my posts. I am now and still talking about what should be allowed on a business page. If they can do it, so can all other retailers. Do some research on their business, get to work and start editing, fix my sloppy haphazard edits and make the Daviswiki the best it can be. - Aaron<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 08:58:57Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 199: </td> <td> Line 199: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * I look at it like this, if its good for the goose, its good for the gander. Just because its assumed or implied does not make it so. I will spend time toning APEX's page down to the specs of the other pages, but I will aso try and make an attempt at other retailer's pages to list what brands they sell new and used since that's what your argument is in regards to my wanting to remove it from T&amp;M. Lets educate the public rather than allow one retailer to benefit from the wiki's indifference and self righteous atitude towards me. As many of you have stated in regards to yourselves, I will continue to "fight the good fight" but as I see fit. I expect you all to do no less. - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 08:27:37CovertProfessorComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 197: </td> <td> Line 197: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-06-26 09:27:37'' [[nbsp]] Here's a sequence of events that I see. For years, you are considered a valued and productive member of the Davis Wiki. Your business' page is, in fact, a disaster. It's promotional and bolded and over the top. But I think everyone looked the other way because you were one of us. Then you sockpuppeted against a defender. Anyone can make a mistake, but in fact, you've defended your actions when someone as experienced with the wiki as you ought to know that what you did was wrong. Now you're just retaliating by making a mess of the wiki. Basically, your spending all the capital you've built over the years. You no longer come across as a good guy, "happy go lucky," etc. You come across as petty. You might want to rethink your actions. They are not helping you or your business. Some friendly advice. --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 08:17:26hankimComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 195: </td> <td> Line 195: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-06-26 09:17:26'' [[nbsp]] Don't forget places like [http://daviswiki.org/The_Used_Phone_Store this] and [http://daviswiki.org/Bookstores these]. People need to know what kind of phones they can purchase and all the publishers of products the bookstores might sell. --["Users/hankim"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 07:53:23Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p>No differences found!</div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-26 07:53:17Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Aaron prizes above all else, proper communication and respect. A little known fact is that Aaron was adopted from Cambodia (even though everyone asumes he's from the Philippines) at the age of 3 by a retired Catholic Priest, <span>but raised a</span> Jew.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;Another notable point in Aaron's past is the fact that he has met every president since Jimmy Carter through Bill Clinton, including being flown out to meet with then President Reagan and Vice President Bush at the age of 6.</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> Aaron prizes above all else, proper communication and respect. A little known fact is that Aaron was adopted from Cambodia (even though everyone asumes he's from the Philippines) at the age of 3 by a retired Catholic Priest, <span>and raised</span> Jew<span>ish</span>. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 22:28:10CovertProfessorwas sd, not me <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 176: </td> <td> Line 176: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Aaron--one simple quote- "but 1st impressions not too great". That seems negative to me. As ["<span>Users/CovertProfessor" </span>Daubert] stated, "It's not what you say but how you say it ". That could give someone a negative opinion of the bike shop right off the bat. Thank you for updating your original post on the page for their shop.--["Users/PeteB"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Aaron--one simple quote- "but 1st impressions not too great". That seems negative to me. As ["Daubert<span>"</span>] stated, "It's not what you say but how you say it ". That could give someone a negative opinion of the bike shop right off the bat. Thank you for updating your original post on the page for their shop.--["Users/PeteB"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 22:10:36Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 190: </td> <td> Line 190: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Hmm... lets see. You didn't tell me, you passive aggressively made it known. I'll quote you on this one. "Its not what you sa<span>id</span>, its how you sa<span>id</span> it" - Aaron </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Hmm... lets see. You didn't tell me, you passive aggressively made it known. I'll quote you on this one. "Its not what you sa<span>y</span>, its how you sa<span>y</span> it" - Aaron </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 21:07:09DonShor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 178: </td> <td> Line 178: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> @Don, Are we not all friends and here for the benefit of the wiki? If I were looking at a garden center, I'd want your opinion, because I respect it because I know that you know gardening. Wether it be in a public forum or in private. Who knows a field better than one'<span>'</span>s own? </td> <td> <span>+</span> @Don, Are we not all friends and here for the benefit of the wiki? If I were looking at a garden center, I'd want your opinion, because I respect it because I know that you know gardening. Wether it be in a public forum or in private. Who knows a field better than one's own? </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 20:59:53Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Aaron came to Davis in 1997 to attend ["UC Davis"] on a full scholarship from The Buck Foundation. During college, Aaron worked at a few of the downtown ["Bike Shops"] in addition to ["The Paint Chip"], ["Mobile Connections"], ["Jamba Juice"], ["Cafe Roma"], ["The Logical Learning Center"], <span>and </span>["D-M Information Systems, Inc."]. Aaron is very proud to say that he has never been unemployed for longer than 3 days (one time in 2004) since he was 14yrs old and that many of his jobs overlapped one another. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Aaron came to Davis in 1997 to attend ["UC Davis"] on a full scholarship from The Buck Foundation. During college, Aaron worked at a few of the downtown ["Bike Shops"] in addition to ["The Paint Chip"], ["Mobile Connections"], ["Jamba Juice"], ["Cafe Roma"], ["The Logical Learning Center"], ["D-M Information Systems, Inc.<span>"], and ["Pak Mail</span>"]. Aaron is very proud to say that he has never been unemployed for longer than 3 days (one time in 2004) since he was 14yrs old and that many of his jobs overlapped one another. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 20:57:53Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p>No differences found!</div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 20:57:47Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Aaron and his family are active members of the Davis community and can be found at most local functions especially if bikes are involved. Aaron usually donates his time whenever a bike race or school bike safety rodeo needs a mechanic. Aaron also works for the North Natomas TMA a<span>s a Bike Doc for city events</span>. </td> <td> <span>+</span> Aaron and his family are active members of the Davis community and can be found at most local functions especially if bikes are involved. Aaron usually donates his time whenever a bike race or school bike safety rodeo needs a mechanic. Aaron also works for the North Natomas TMA a<span>nd is an outside sales rep for various brands in the bicycle industry for Hawaii</span>. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 20:51:33Aaron.Curtin <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 15: </td> <td> Line 15: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- When he's not at his ["Apex Cycles" Bike Shop], he can be found riding bikes with his kids around town or at ["Baciarini's Martial Arts"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ When he's not at his ["Apex Cycles" Bike Shop], he can be found riding bikes with his kids around town.<br> + <br> + Aaron and his boys train in Brazilian JiuJitsu, KaJuKenpo and Escrima.<br> + <br> + Aaron prizes above all else, proper communication and respect. A little known fact is that Aaron was adopted from Cambodia (even though everyone asumes he's from the Philippines) at the age of 3 by a retired Catholic Priest, but raised a Jew. Another notable point in Aaron's past is the fact that he has met every president since Jimmy Carter through Bill Clinton, including being flown out to meet with then President Reagan and Vice President Bush at the age of 6.<br> + <br> + Aaron and his family are active members of the Davis community and can be found at most local functions especially if bikes are involved. Aaron usually donates his time whenever a bike race or school bike safety rodeo needs a mechanic. Aaron also works for the North Natomas TMA as a Bike Doc for city events.<br> + <br> + If you happen to get a bike flat somewhere in town and happen to see his Silver Honda Ridgeline, he always carries tools, a pump and spare tubes. He'll even give you a lift if needed.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 19:24:07Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 185: </td> <td> Line 185: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Stay out of it Pete. This is between me and SD. - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 19:23:14Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 182: </td> <td> Line 182: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Hmm... lets see. I'll quote you on this one. "Its not what you said, its how you said it" - Aaron </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Hmm... lets see<span>. You didn't tell me, you passive aggressively made it known</span>. I'll quote you on this one. "Its not what you said, its how you said it" - Aaron </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 19:15:39PeteBleave it be for now. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 183: </td> <td> Line 183: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * Aaron-Daubert was perfectly in his rights and very appropriate in how he posted it. I suggest everyone just leave this alone for the night and --if need be-- revisit it tmrw. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 19:13:40Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 181: </td> <td> Line 181: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * Hmm... lets see. I'll quote you on this one. "Its not what you said, its how you said it" - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 19:10:27StevenDaubert["Wiki Chill Pill"] is a great page <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 179: </td> <td> Line 179: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + No not really I just noticed that you have outdated information on your page. I would change it but it's your userpage. Therefore I settled for second best which is telling you. ~SD</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 19:09:48Aaron.Curtin <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 169: </td> <td> Line 169: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + @Don, Are we not all friends and here for the benefit of the wiki? If I were looking at a garden center, I'd want your opinion, because I respect it because I know that you know gardening. Wether it be in a public forum or in private. Who knows a field better than one''s own?<br> + <br> + @ Pete, So you're telling me if I were to say, "1st impression's not too great" about any other business then it'd be ok? But since I singled out the new business to which I had yet to formulate an opinion as a consumer or competitor and didn't have a great 1st impression I should have kept it to myself?<br> + <br> + My opinion of them stands, its my opinion of Daviswiki that has changed. - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 19:07:52PeteBthank you <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 168: </td> <td> Line 168: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Aaron--one simple quote- "but 1st impressions not too great". That seems negative to me. As ["Users/CovertProfessor" Daubert] stated, "It's not what you say but how you say it ". That could give someone a negative opinion of the bike shop right off the bat.--["Users/PeteB"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Aaron--one simple quote- "but 1st impressions not too great". That seems negative to me. As ["Users/CovertProfessor" Daubert] stated, "It's not what you say but how you say it ". That could give someone a negative opinion of the bike shop right off the bat.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;Thank you for updating your original post on the page for their shop.</span>--["Users/PeteB"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 18:50:47PeteB <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 168: </td> <td> Line 168: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Aaron--one simple quote- "but 1st impressions not too great". That seems negative to me. --["Users/PeteB"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Aaron--one simple quote- "but 1st impressions not too great". That seems negative to me. <span>As ["Users/CovertProfessor" Daubert] stated, "It's not what you say but how you say it ". That could give someone a negative opinion of the bike shop right off the bat.</span>--["Users/PeteB"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 18:48:54PeteByou are being negative... <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 167: </td> <td> Line 167: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * Aaron--one simple quote- "but 1st impressions not too great". That seems negative to me. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 18:45:15Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 169: </td> <td> Line 169: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + NITPICK MUCH? - AARON</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 18:44:27Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 165: </td> <td> Line 165: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * I DIDN'T CRITIQUE, I STATED THEY WEREN'T OPEN DURING POSTED HOURS (I WAITED 20 MINUTES BUT HAD TO LEAVE TO OPEN MY OWN SHOP) AND DESCRIBED WHAT I SAW IN THE STOREFRONT. NOT ONCE DID I SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THEIR QUALITY OF WORK OR PRODUCT. - AARON</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 18:06:08DonShor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 164: </td> <td> Line 164: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ You're a competitor, Aaron. I'm not going to go over and critique another garden center. My critique wouldn't be the point. It's a conflict of interest. --Don</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 17:57:46Aaron.CurtinUpdating the wiki is not the responsibility of 1, but the community as a whole. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 7: </td> <td> Line 7: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''Their ["Apex Cycles" Bike Shop] <span>is </span>mov<span>ing</span> to 912 <span>Fif</span>th <span>S</span>treet <span>Suite 105 with</span>in <span>th</span>e <span>next</span> <span>few weeks</span>''' </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''Their ["Apex Cycles" Bike Shop] mov<span>ed</span> to 912 <span>5</span>th <span>s</span>treet in <span>Nov</span>e<span>mber,</span> <span>2012.</span> ''' </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 17:38:53StevenDaubertComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 164: </td> <td> Line 164: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-06-25 18:38:53'' [[nbsp]] "Their Bike Shop is moving to 912 Fifth Street Suite 105 within the next few weeks" hasn't the shop been moved? --["Users/StevenDaubert"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 16:29:42Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 163: </td> <td> Line 163: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> What did I say that should go away? - Aaron </td> <td> <span>+</span> What did I say <span>specifically warrants </span>tha<span>t the commen</span>t should go away? - Aaron </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 16:29:08Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 162: </td> <td> Line 162: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + What did I say that should go away? - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 16:17:23Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 150: </td> <td> Line 150: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ And vise versa - Aaron<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 16:08:02DonShor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 159: </td> <td> Line 159: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ This isn't that big a deal. I'd just suggest the problem go away: http://daviswiki.org/T%26M_Bike_Shop/Talk --["Users/DonShor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:58:04CovertProfessor(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 147: </td> <td> Line 147: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Aaron, you've been a valued member of the DavisWiki for many years. That's why I was so surprised to see you sockpuppet a competitor today. I think maybe you need to take a step back, maybe ask some people not involved with the wiki what they think, and really reflect on whether it's right to do what you did today on a competitor's business. I think you'll see that you ought not to have done that. No one is trying to come down hard on you. In fact, notice that no one has written anything on your business page about this. To be clear, I am not making a threat (I have no intention of making such an edit), but pointing out that editors have in fact been fairly gentle with your behavior, behavior that has ''always'' been frowned upon. You've been editing the wiki long enough to know that sockpuppeting a business is not acceptable. I'd like to see you continue to edit the wiki in a productive way, as you always have in the past. --["Users/CovertProfessor"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Aaron, you've been a valued member of the DavisWiki for many years. That's why I was so surprised to see you sockpuppet a competitor today. I think maybe you need to take a step back, maybe ask some people not involved with the wiki what they think, and really reflect on whether it's right to do what you did today on a competitor's business<span>&nbsp;page</span>. I think you'll see that you ought not to have done that. No one is trying to come down hard on you. In fact, notice that no one has written anything on your business page about this. To be clear, I am not making a threat (I have no intention of making such an edit), but pointing out that editors have in fact been fairly gentle with your behavior, behavior that has ''always'' been frowned upon. You've been editing the wiki long enough to know that sockpuppeting a business is not acceptable. I'd like to see you continue to edit the wiki in a productive way, as you always have in the past. --["Users/CovertProfessor"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:56:58PeteB+ more thoughts <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 148: </td> <td> Line 148: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Aaron-I am truly sorry for the tribulations you experienced with your parents. Mine are elderly and in failing health so I'm entering a hard time myself but CP really is spot on here. --["Users/PeteB"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Aaron-I am truly sorry for the tribulations you experienced with your parents. Mine are<span>&nbsp;both</span> elderly and in failing health so I'm entering a hard time myself but CP really is spot on<span>&nbsp;here. Noone is trying to chase you away at all. We really want you to be a productive contributor. Please consider what's been said</span> here. --["Users/PeteB"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:55:24PeteBagree with CP-take a deep breath <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 148: </td> <td> Line 148: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Aaron-I am truly sorry for the tribulations you experienced with your parents. Mine are elderly and in failing health so I'm entering a hard time myself but CP really is spot on here. --["Users/PeteB"]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:48:37CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 147: </td> <td> Line 147: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Aaron, you've been a valued member of the DavisWiki for many years. That's why I was so surprised to see you sockpuppet a competitor today. I think maybe you need to take a step back, maybe ask some people not involved with the wiki what they think, and really reflect on whether it's right to do what you did today on a competitor's business. I think you'll see that you ought not to have done that. No one is trying to come down hard on you. In fact, notice that no one has written anything on your business page about this. To be clear, I am not making a threat (I have no intention of making such an edit), but pointing out that editors have in fact been fairly gentle with your behavior, behavior that has ''always'' been frowned upon. You've been editing the wiki long enough to know that sockpuppeting a business is not acceptable. I'd like to see you continue to edit the wiki in a productive way, as you always have in the past. --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:26:32Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 145: </td> <td> Line 145: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * @ CP, I understand your point on that, and during that time I WAS going through a lot, dealing with my 90 year old Father's failing health, and my mother's Alzheimers, while raising my young family and running my business. More than any 30 year old should have to endure. For that I apologize. But this more recent use of my formerly anonymous account was strictly for reference without being targeted as biased. As anyone who really knows me as a person, not just as a business entity, they will tell you that I don't have a malicious bone in my body. @ PeteB, you're blowing it out of proportion. And I may have inadvertently outed myself via IP addresses, but that shred of anonymity was lost when CP posted who I was. Even if its one click away, at least there was another step to hide who I was. I don't have to answer to any of you. I've been in business for 7 years, I'll be here as long as I want. I have wholeheartedly supported the Daviswiki, financially and in spirit, but today its over. I have touted to other local business owners the benefits of the wiki to deaf ears. Now I share their sentiment as it has grown into a circle jerk of "moderators" - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:18:03CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 152: </td> <td> Line 152: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * As Aaron himself said, Davis is "a town that has more than *a dozen competing businesses all vying for the same limited customer base." --cp</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:15:01hankim(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 151: </td> <td> Line 151: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * A financial stake in taking out a new bike shop when there are larger and more established businesses in town? --["Users/hankim"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:10:14PeteBon the head <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 151: </td> <td> Line 151: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * That nails it perfectly CP...--["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:07:37CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 150: </td> <td> Line 150: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I don't think it was "malicious," no. But he wrote things that cast the other place in a bad light. In such a case, it matters that he has a financial stake. --cp</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:01:23hankim <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p>No differences found!</div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:01:22hankim <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 148: </td> <td> Line 148: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Your version: -----</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 150: </td> <td> Line 149: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Other version: -----<br> -</span> * I see a reason but again IP's are logged and if he understood that in any way, then he had to know he'd be discovered and questions would arise (again setting himself up). My only thought is he didn't realize his IP's were being logged? -["Users/PeteB"]<span><br> - ----- /!\ End of edit conflict -----</span> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> * I see a reason but again IP's are logged and if he understood that in any way, then he had to know he'd be discovered and questions would arise (again setting himself up). My only thought is he didn't realize his IP's were being logged? -["Users/PeteB"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:00:37hankim(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 148: </td> <td> Line 148: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Your version: -----<br> + * Definitely the first sockpuppetry act was shady (the one on his own business page) but I feel like the second one didn't seem malicious. I don't have an issue with a bike store owner reviewing other bike stores anonymously as long as he isn't lying about his experience there and he actually visited the shop. --["Users/hankim"]<br> + ----- /!\ Edit conflict! Other version: -----</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 149: </td> <td> Line 152: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ----- /!\ End of edit conflict -----</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 15:00:05PeteB <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 148: </td> <td> Line 148: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I see a reason but again IP's are logged and if he understood that in any way, then he had to know he'd be discovered and questions would arise (again setting himself up). My only thought is he didn't realize his IP's were being logged? -["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 14:56:45CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 147: </td> <td> Line 147: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * To be clear: I don't object to him having a separate, anonymous account that he uses to comment on restaurants and such. I object to him using it to say good things about his business and bad things about competitors' businesses. The fact that he didn't create the account in order to do that specifically, or that there are worse instances of sockpuppeting -- both points I acknowledge -- doesn't change the fact that what he did in those two instances was shady. I can understand the urge, but I still think it's shady. --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 14:48:20hankimComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 145: </td> <td> Line 145: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-06-25 15:48:20'' [[nbsp]] First edit with the other account was three years ago... Outside of [http://daviswiki.org/APEX_Cycles_%26_Service?action=diff&amp;version2=266&amp;version1=265 this] which is technically sockpuppety but is of a much lesser degree (compared to examples like [http://daviswiki.org/DOSiRAK?action=diff&amp;version2=15&amp;version1=14 these] with attacks on competitors)... Pretty long con to attack a new used bike store when there are stronger competitors in town, and it didn't even seem like much of an attack. I feel like there was either a huge amount of malice that required serious long-term planning and slightly negative remarks to eventually ruin someone's business (a plan that was ruined by not using a proxy) or maybe a person genuinely curious about another business who wanted to share his experience with another shop, but figured he would be burned alive if people found out he owned a bike shop. I can definitely understand why someone might want to review anonymously (business owners, professors, celebrities), and it might even be positive to the community if someone with a strong following (like a celebrity) would prefer their words be taken because of their previous contribution to the site rather than their status in the real world. If the anonymous account consistently provides good contributions, I don't think it would be a terrible idea if some people decided to have a separate anonymous account to review things. For example on a forum, if a popular moderator were to say something positive about something, you're most likely going to get a circle-jerk just due to that moderator's status, so if the moderator wanted his or her words taken seriously, posting on a regular account might be beneficial for the community. --["Users/hankim"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 14:36:42CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 144: </td> <td> Line 144: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * You'll just have to take my word for it -- I genuinely don't understand. I can see why you wouldn't use your own name when commenting on a business, although I think it's shady when you do it while critiquing a competitor (and hey, everyone else can see that it was a critique but you). But I truly don't understand the comment on your own page. Using your pseudonym, you wrote, "''In response to all the recent questions and concerns about the shop. I have to say that this is still one of the best little bike shops around. They are going through some tough times right now as it is a family business and I overheard one of the volunteers mentioning that Aaron has been dealing with his mother's Alzheimers and has had to close the shop periodically to deal with that. I rolled past tonight, and there he was working late into the night to try and make up for not being open during the day. He said he won't be around again tomorrow since he has to follow up with doctors and find an assisted living facility for his mother. If you need to get something done with your bike, he's still one of the best local resources. He hopes that all his loyal customers understand and that he will try to have the shop up and running regular hours by the middle of the week. Feel free to call him or shoot him an email with any questions.''" That comment in itself revealed your personal life about you caring for your mother; I didn't do it. My saying it was you who wrote it lets people know that you're willing to pretend to be a customer who says praiseworthy things about your own business. Sorry, that doesn't reflect well on you. I can see that you were going through a bad time, so I am sympathetic -- but still, it was not the right thing to do. So, who is in the wrong here -- the person who sockpuppeted about his own business, pretending to be a customer who said it was "one of the best little bike shops around," or the person who pointed out the other person's bad behavior? --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 14:35:11PeteBi call BS..stop blaming others <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 143: </td> <td> Line 143: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Aaron-again you're not getting it, man. No matter what you do on the Wiki-anyone can see by the IP's that you were the same person posting from both accounts. '''You outed yourself'''. Please stop blaming others for what you set yourself up for. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 14:23:23Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 141: </td> <td> Line 141: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * I changed it to my real name to apease the DWgods... at the time it was meant to be anonymous. By you reveling that it was me, you outed me and aspects of my personal life that I was not comfortable with at the time. Why is that so hard for you to understand considering you don't even use your own real name when editing the wiki? - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 13:55:29CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 140: </td> <td> Line 140: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I'm not getting it. You were the one who revealed the information about yourself and your family. Not sure why it airs your personal business to say that you were the one who wrote it. --cp</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 13:51:29Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 134: </td> <td> Line 134: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * Attempt at what? Are you implying something, because it would be better if you just came out and said what you are thinking rather than beat around the bush. If you do decide to come to Davis, fell free to shop elsewhere. Better yet, check Daviswiki, you'll find many useful reviews and customer feedback in regards to me and my business practices. I'm not perfect, nor did I ever claim to be, but as far as bikes are concerned, you won't find anyone better. That said, I do reserve the right to refuse service as well. - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 13:34:24Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 136: </td> <td> Line 136: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * Regardless if you were or not, you did, and that was what I was trying to avoid in the first place. - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 12:52:53PeteBformatting <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 133: </td> <td> Line 133: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Thank you for correcting your attempt to hide behind a false name, however, if I come to Davis I'll shop elsewhere. Attempts like yours kill my faith in businesses. --["Users/PeteB"] </td> <td> <span>+ </span> * Thank you for correcting your attempt to hide behind a false name, however, if I come to Davis I'll shop elsewhere. Attempts like yours kill my faith in businesses. --["Users/PeteB"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 12:48:45CovertProfessorComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 134: </td> <td> Line 134: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-06-25 13:48:45'' [[nbsp]] Not trying to air your personal business, but that comment reads very differently coming from you vs. a customer. --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 12:28:43PeteB <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 133: </td> <td> Line 133: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Thank you for correcting your attempt to hide behind a false name, however, if I come to Davis I'll shop elsewhere. Attempts like yours kill my faith in businesses. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 12:18:22Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 132: </td> <td> Line 132: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Not open, next to nothing for sale... these Are all Things I had to deal with years ago. Are they reliable, not sure, but considering what limited experience I've had with then, I'd say not so. It is my place to see what other business are doing as all the bike shops in town are not only in friendly competition, but also part of the cycling community as a whole. We rely on each other for parts, tools or advice. If I can't use them as such why should anyone else? 1st impression not too great. I didn't mention that there were 2 other potential customers there that were waiting that left. I never mentioned to them that I owned a shop or to go anywhere else. I let them formulate that opinion on their own. - Aaron </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Not open, next to nothing for sale... these Are all Things I had to deal with years ago. Are they reliable, not sure, but considering what limited experience I've had with then, I'd say not so. It is my place to see what other business are doing as all the bike shops in town are not only in friendly competition, but also part of the cycling community as a whole. We rely on each other for parts, tools or advice. If I can't use them as such why should anyone else? 1st impression not too great. I didn't mention that there were 2 other potential customers there that were waiting that left. I never mentioned to them that I owned a shop or to go anywhere else. I let them formulate that opinion on their own. <span>&nbsp;This was my experience and within my right to voice it. I have since removed all association with the other handle and posted under my REAL name, Feel free to talk to me in person anytime. You can find me at my shop during regular POSTED business hours unless I'm at lunch, but I'd be willing to schedule an appointment if you'd like. </span>- Aaron </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 12:16:10Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 132: </td> <td> Line 132: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Not open, next to nothing for sale... these Are all Things I had to deal with years ago. Are they reliable, not sure, but considering what limited experience I've had with then, I'd say not so. It is my place to see what other business are doing as all the bike shops in town are not only in frindly competition, but also part of the cycling community as a whole. We rely on each other for parts, tools or advice. If I can't use them as such why should anyone else? 1st impression not too great. I didn't mention that there were 2 other potential customers there that were waiting that left. I never mentioned to them that I owned a shop or to go anywhere else. I let them formulate that opinion on their own. - Aaron </td> <td> <span>+</span> * Not open, next to nothing for sale... these Are all Things I had to deal with years ago. Are they reliable, not sure, but considering what limited experience I've had with then, I'd say not so. It is my place to see what other business are doing as all the bike shops in town are not only in fri<span>e</span>ndly competition, but also part of the cycling community as a whole. We rely on each other for parts, tools or advice. If I can't use them as such why should anyone else? 1st impression not too great. I didn't mention that there were 2 other potential customers there that were waiting that left. I never mentioned to them that I owned a shop or to go anywhere else. I let them formulate that opinion on their own. - Aaron </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 12:15:40Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 131: </td> <td> Line 131: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * Not open, next to nothing for sale... these Are all Things I had to deal with years ago. Are they reliable, not sure, but considering what limited experience I've had with then, I'd say not so. It is my place to see what other business are doing as all the bike shops in town are not only in frindly competition, but also part of the cycling community as a whole. We rely on each other for parts, tools or advice. If I can't use them as such why should anyone else? 1st impression not too great. I didn't mention that there were 2 other potential customers there that were waiting that left. I never mentioned to them that I owned a shop or to go anywhere else. I let them formulate that opinion on their own. - Aaron</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 12:08:17PeteByou don't get it-you are being negative <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 130: </td> <td> Line 130: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Aaron-not sure you're seeing the point. It isn't your job to "test" them...also saying "1st impressions not too great." is '''definitely''' a negative statement. Why don't you focus on your bike business. If your product and services are good enough to fulfill the community needs, you shouldn't have to worry about what other businesses are doing. --["Users/PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 11:55:30Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 128: </td> <td> Line 128: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * I usually use the other handle when I don't want things directly tied to me. But I left nothing negative. Statement of facts. wiki (which I based my visit on) and sign in the window said open at 10. I got There at 10:30. They weren't there so I left after waiting for about 20 minutes because I had to get to the shop and open myself. Called numerous times when I got to my shop and they didn't get in until noon. I realize thy're new, and wanted to see what They had to offer. Nothing out of the ordinary or to differentiate themselves from any of the other shops. I have yet to "test" their bike knowledge, but time will tell. --["Users/Aaron.Curtin"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 10:15:15CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2013-06-25 11:14:44'' [[nbsp]] Aaron, I see that [http://daviswiki.org/T%26M_Bike_Shop?action=diff&amp;version2=4&amp;version1=3 this negative comment] was left from the same ["IP addresses" IP address] that you yourself used, just minutes before, to make edits on a competitor's page. I don't think of you as the sort of businessman who would engage in that sort of ["sockpuppets" sockpuppeting] against a potential competitor. Can you clarify? --["Users/CovertProfessor"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2013-06-25 11:14:44'' [[nbsp]] Aaron, I see that [http://daviswiki.org/T%26M_Bike_Shop?action=diff&amp;version2=4&amp;version1=3 this negative comment] was left from the same ["IP addresses" IP address] that you yourself used, just minutes before, to make edits on <span>the same page, </span>a competitor's page. I don't think of you as the sort of businessman who would engage in that sort of ["sockpuppets" sockpuppeting] against a potential competitor. Can you clarify? --["Users/CovertProfessor"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-06-25 10:14:44CovertProfessorComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 126: </td> <td> Line 126: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-06-25 11:14:44'' [[nbsp]] Aaron, I see that [http://daviswiki.org/T%26M_Bike_Shop?action=diff&amp;version2=4&amp;version1=3 this negative comment] was left from the same ["IP addresses" IP address] that you yourself used, just minutes before, to make edits on a competitor's page. I don't think of you as the sort of businessman who would engage in that sort of ["sockpuppets" sockpuppeting] against a potential competitor. Can you clarify? --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2013-05-22 16:46:10StevenDaubertComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 124: </td> <td> Line 124: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2013-05-22 17:46:10'' [[nbsp]] Sinish has the manager make orders from classico (the distributor), talk to them or just tell them you want to order one of the I think 5 liter tubs if you really really want it back... --["Users/StevenDaubert"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2012-08-27 11:45:54Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 7: </td> <td> Line 7: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''Their ["Apex Cycles" Bike Shop] is <span>l</span>o<span>ca</span>t<span>ed</span> <span>a</span>t<span>&nbsp;338 G</span> Street <span>Do</span>wnt<span>o</span>w<span>n</span>''' </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''Their ["Apex Cycles" Bike Shop] is <span>m</span>o<span>ving </span>t<span>o</span> <span>912 Fif</span>t<span>h</span> Street <span>Suite 105 </span>w<span>ithi</span>n<span>&nbsp;</span>t<span>he next fe</span>w<span>&nbsp;weeks</span>''' </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2012-07-14 18:15:56Aaron.Curtin(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 120: </td> <td> Line 120: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + * What would you like to know? How after 3 years they still haven't given me the light switch and socket covers (which puts me in violation of fire codes for which I have been cited), or how I got the run around for 2 years about expanding/moving to another larger location next door, or how I was told my current location was 600sq/ft and charged accordingly but after measuring its only 351sq/ft with no explanation on their part. Dealing with them has been/is a nightmare.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2012-07-11 15:02:27TomGarbersonComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 120: </td> <td> Line 120: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2012-07-11 16:02:27'' [[nbsp]] Hey Aaron, I'm inheriting an old-ish road bike my dad doesn't ride anymore. It's been hanging in his garage for a decade or two, so it may need some wheel work. Also, his old biking shoes won't fit me... do you carry various types of shoes? I have no idea what kind of pedals are on the bike (and if I did I wouldn't know what it meant). Am I likely to need to get new pedals, along with shoes? If so, any recommendations on how to go about selecting something suitable for me? --["Users/TomGarberson"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/Aaron.Curtinhttp://daviswiki.org/Users/Aaron.Curtin2012-06-24 14:26:48StevenDaubertComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/Aaron.Curtin<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 118: </td> <td> Line 118: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2012-06-24 15:26:48'' [[nbsp]] tell me a little more about your experience with Ally if you please --["Users/StevenDaubert"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>