Regarding the people asking for nearby cafes that have a clue, ![[WWW]](http://wikispot.org/wiki/eggheadbeta/img/sycamore-www.png){kind=small}
http://espressomap.com/ . I have tried many of the cafes on that map in the bay area and Sacramento area. As you can see, there are now 4 cafes in Sac that serve decent espresso and milk. I have not yet tried Chocolate Fish Coffee yet because they appear to have hours designed for the office workers around there and I'm not about to jump into rush hour traffic to get there before they close. I recommend Temple with their nice space, friendly staff, long hours, and consistent quality. If I had to ding Temple, I would say they use too much milk in their cappuccinos for my taste, but at least it's good milk. They use Barefoot coffee, which is a highly recommended cafe in San Jose.
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I love your coffee comments here. I moved to SF from Davis a couple years ago and I've been spoiled rotten by Blue Bottle, Ritual and my home french press (with freshly roasted, non-over-roasted beans). Whenever I go back to Davis I'm surprised by the low coffee quality, but I think it's like that in most of the world. The only other non-SF great coffee I've had was at Cafe Grumpy in NYC (even Eugene's Wandering Goat Cafe seemed overroasted to me).
The sad part is that this means all these people haven't experienced what coffee can really taste like (or just don't care). —PhilipNeustrom
2009-09-08 17:02:37 i too, love your coffee comments. i haven't found anywhere that has a barista that can pull a proper espresso (with the thick head of crema that i yearn for) though i haven't bothered looking, after seeing many of your comments. if you have any suggestions that save me the drive to the bay area, i would love to hear any (sac maybe?). until then i'll stick to my reliable french press, and indulge when i am away from here. thanks for bothering to review so many places. —MiranPark
2009-09-08 21:46:07 I loved your comment about meat cakes. —SunjeetBaadkar
2009-09-14 09:19:57 thanks, i'll try temple the next time i'm out that way. why is vegan asian panda redundant? all pandas are technically asian and vegan? —MiranPark
