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Hi Kim: We aren't a neutral bland information only site, Comments actually SHOULD be integrated into an article instead of banished to the lower half. Think of the wiki as a tool for collaborative authorship, not a yelp/Wikipedia clone. Make the changes you mentioned one at a time and then fill out the bar (in the edit page) that says "please comment about this change" for each change. That way editors in recent changes can see that you are updating info and not just "blanking in progress" ~SD P.S. Where is T.Burt these days


CovertProfessor's Quick Restaurant Picks

Restaurants are listed in order of preference. I've only listed restaurants that I like. If a restaurant is not listed, it usually means I don't like it, but it might just mean that I haven't tried it.

See CovertProfessor's Restaurant Reviews for more details and more restaurants.


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2012-06-07 12:33:04   Hi, I was reading a thread where you accused me of being affiliated with a business because I left a positive review for them. It is not true. I'm a log time business owner in Davis and I have read plenty of threads here where you have initiated and provoked conflict through false accusations and bias editing. I don't see how this is in the mission of the wiki. You are a cancer to the wiki, to the honest part of the Davis community and the main reason this wiki has the reputation of being shanghai'd by wackos. If you plan on continually dictating from behind your shroud, use some tact, common sense and decency. I'm not trying to engage in any kind of "dialogue" with you. —LWolk

2012-06-07 17:18:05   Impersonation of Lois Wolk on DavisWiki would be doubleplusuncool. The Wolk family could be asked if there is any connection. —GregKuperberg

2012-06-09 16:04:03   Thanks for linking the DOERS page in from the outdoor activities page/etc! I hadn't figured out how to fit it in properly yet, it was a pleasant surprise to see it all done already! —markspiller

2012-06-11 11:54:32   The responses you've made towards JT on why a page shouldn't be deleted might go well here: Talk Pages/Active. Though typing it out, I realize "active" was a bad choice. My quick thought is it's at least an organizational hub, or like a master "to do" list in things that were started but not finished? It might also be a good centralized spot for other people to chime in whether a talk page should remain open or just be dismissed. (ie, the Freshman Guide/Talk page. Personally, I think "this needs updating" is no different than probably a good chunk of wiki content). —EdWins

2012-06-11 12:58:12   Makes sense to me. —EdWins

2012-06-11 15:38:25   at this point I'm just morbidly curious as to how Ed a relatively sharp adult in Grad school justifies to himself removal of my comments to another user... —StevenDaubert

2012-06-12 17:28:21   Don's comment is not only inaccurate but completely inappropriate to the page. First off, the Chamber CREATED the DDBA in order to allow more focus for downtown issues. Secondly, how is he calculating "retailers"? For example, does he include restaurants? Thirdly, why are retailers a "preferred" category of business owners? Aren't service providers like investment advisors, insurance agents, banks, credit unions, real estate agents, mortgage brokers, lawyers, doctors and dentists also important to note?

Point being, Don's narrow perspective is distracting and counterproductive to the point of this page... to educate Davis about what the Chamber of Commerce does, what it has done, who it represents and it's place in the Davis-universe. —KemblePope

The Executive Director may wish to update the directory, or provide updated membership information.
Note (responding to comment below): the data above was compiled by adding up the members listed on the directory as of April 2012. It was in furtherance of a point I was making on the Vanguard that the Chamber does not have a strong retail membership, and that the retail members of the DDBA tend not to be members of the Chamber.

2012-06-12 17:57:09   #1 - I think that it is absolutely unfair and hurts the DavisWiki community that you can parade around here anonymously disparaging other people's characters and hard work. I don't think that you should be allowed to post anonymously any more. I am not "white washing". You, and others, however, are trying to intimidate me with spurious and copious amounts of opinion, "facts" with no primary source, and broad characterizations about how the "community" "feels".

#2 - The Davis Chamber of Commerce is a membership organization and thus our membership fluctuates monthly depending on whether existing members reinvest, go out of business, change locations or new members invest. Our database does not have a search function for "downtown" or "nothing but retail" (Cartridge World is in Office Machines/Supplies; Helmus Optometry which sells glasses is listed elsewhere and the list goes on and on) because those terms are meaningless for our purposes. Visitors come to us looking for reputable hotels, car repair, a good dentist or available meeting spaces. Our members look to other members for business to business services. I CAN NOT COMMIT TO REGULARLY COMBING THROUGH OUR DATABASES ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO PROVIDE STATISTICS THAT HAVE VERY LITTLE VALUE TO ANYONE, CAN YOU?

#3 - If you are really interested in sharing WHO we are, then the answer is simple: [WWW]

2012-06-14 11:32:25   What is it that you feel we owe you? —ScarlettW

2012-06-14 11:41:25   Sorry, but my mother will not be meeting anyone from the wiki for tea. Frankly, for an old woman, this kind of prying is scary and she has other things to worry about. Please figure out what you want, clean up this BS and focus on something else. —ScarlettW

2012-06-14 13:34:27   NOT A FAN OF phonetikally ??!?!?!?

golly —StevenDaubert

2012-06-14 13:50:49   I wish I was that clever. Entirely accidental :P —PhilipNeustrom

2012-06-14 13:59:40   Again, you call us "Bowerbird people" when all my mother wanted to do is leave a positive comment for them because they did good work and she recommends them. She only wanted to contribute. If being a customer makes us "Bowerbird People" then so be it. However, the BS that you keep perpetuating and the attempts to find her and meet her in person is inappropriate at best. —ScarlettW

2012-06-14 14:01:59   Then leave us alone. —ScarlettW

2012-06-14 14:06:32   Haha I was really curious how long that would stay up. —TheDrDonna

2012-06-14 14:24:18   She deleted her account so now that she can't defend herself, you have the LWolk page to use as a pinata. She's been LWolk alot longer than anyone else around here so please have a little tact and decency. —ScarlettW

2012-06-14 14:57:42   As of about 3pm PST, an attempt to make a new account with a certain user name gave me the error message of "User name already exists!" I'd guess that disabling the account would effectively 'free" the user name up, so I doubt it was deleted. —EdWins

2012-06-14 15:16:30   There's a way anybody can. I'm on my phone... when I get back, I'll try to recall how and let everybody know for this and future cases. —JabberWokky

2012-06-14 15:18:31   (~ 10 mins) —JabberWokky

2012-06-14 15:25:55   The account was disabled. —PhilipNeustrom

2012-06-14 16:14:49   Okay, tentatively closed the door on that mess, time for a mental reset. [WWW]Try this. —JabberWokky

2012-06-14 16:19:28   I love it! And thanks for your help. —CovertProfessor

2012-06-14 17:01:00   that was a strong delete

sorry ¬_¬ —StevenDaubert

2012-06-14 17:01:33   it's pop culture, from Chappelles show —StevenDaubert

2012-06-15 08:44:27   I wasn't sure if the theft was worthy of Davis Pedicab's upper info section now that it had been recovered, so I figured I'd just kill the alert. I see the value, though. Thanks for adding. —justincox22

2012-06-25 14:16:46   they are editing to parse down the promoted specials which run contrary to the 501.3(c) standing, please do not include the specials in the changed information if you feel the need to edit the page before Ruby has finished the overhaul —StevenDaubert

2012-06-25 14:39:46   they are new, and they are overreacting cause they don't want DW to have to deal with IRS shenanigans. They were unaware of a) user pages (nice of you to leave messages there and b) the 501.3(c) restrictions

you are neutral-negative in your dealings here... which is the crux of my ire in this specific situation, we want neutral-positive! —StevenDaubert

2012-06-25 14:40:33   also Pricing != specials... Apparently IRS has a fondness for using advertised specials on nonprofit stuff as a catalyst for harassment —StevenDaubert

2012-06-25 16:22:58   the owners of BlueBird have been Davis local for what was it at least a decade+ so I cut them some slack. I was just doing the Temple Grandin Philosophy on things... They didn't know they were tromping all over established norms, and IRS regulations and were adamant they would rectify stuff! I just let them know what was going on, and how to find ones user page, and I also nicely innuendo'd a couple times about WTTW/BO

that being said I'm sure you noticed my "I look forward to having you edit something on the wiki that isn't related to your business" line that I've pulled out a couple times... —StevenDaubert

2012-06-26 11:11:35   actually you should have left that link out

Bluebird is NOT a taxi service, it's a limo service

Taxi implies on demand, bluebird is reservation only (they are have a different licensing than the cabs / are beholden to different boards / are prevented from picking up flag downs/ etc ) —StevenDaubert

2012-06-26 12:28:14   perhaps it could be watered down from Taxis to Transportation? I dunno I feel like I'm splitting hairs at this point even thou while both transportation it's apples and oranges.

Charter companies also have to take more certification that taxi, and the drivers have to have special class of license (which in turn reduces insurance b/c the state certified that said driver is more trained etc etc) —StevenDaubert

2012-06-27 17:32:26   Thank you for improving the placement of that photo on the DFC page. I suppose I'll eventually place enough of them to figure out better layouts. —DougWalter

2012-07-09 09:55:50   In response to your supershuttle query, they will take you from sfo to Davis. My husband did it twice. —LoriOrf

2012-07-12 23:48:37   At the moment I only have access to a regularly-sized computer on a very limited basis and don't have the time to rearrange. Also I think I deleted the volunteers section because we have a gajillion volunteers and I didn't like the inaccurate representation, wanting all volunteers to feel equally acknowledged, etc. So I think it might be ok to just leave the volunteers part off and stick to ministers (core volunteers) for pictures and past pictures of. But I'll totally understand if you need to undo or edit etc. what I did to make it fit wiki traditions.

In other news, Fresh Spin Farm is having a garlic tasting at 8pm on Saturday July 14th and you're invited. I'll attach a flier to the events page with more information. —Angel.York

2012-07-16 16:10:02   Whenever you drop semi-detailed information about where you were at a certain time I'm always entertained by considering it to see if it could give away your identity. Not that I'm trying to pry into your identity or anything. Just pondering. Do you find yourself carefully parsing everything you write, when there's a time and/or place involved, before you post it to make sure you don't let too much slip?

It's an interesting process of compartmentalization. I imagine it's fairly similar to the mental process I go through, or other professionals in fields subject to legal privilege and privacy rights go through, when talking about a case. Sometimes they can be interesting or instructive cases for a subject, but I find myself pausing every couple of sentences to run through what I want to say and double check that I'm not going to divulge anything I shouldn't. —TomGarberson

2012-07-26 17:08:32   my friend had a check signed over couple days ago, they did it at the bank and had no problems —StevenDaubert

2012-08-02 14:32:41   So, Sarah and I watch documentaries via a... erm... international internet source for them. Channel 4 just ran a documentary on 50 Shades of Grey (it's the number one book over there), interspersed with fairly explicit sex scenes (nude, angled away from lower genitals). We only watched the first five minutes, but during that time I suddenly lunged for the remote, backed it up and exclaimed, "Freaking A! It's Rory!" IMDB does not list it, but if it's not Arthur Darvill, it's a dead ringer... and for the purposes of a evoking a character, that's enough. Not sure we'll watch the whole thing, but it's mentally jarring to see Rory doing BDSM porn between discussions of the social implications of a book. —JabberWokky

2012-08-30 15:09:17   Sorry about Panera. I purely misread the #'s. —PeteB

2012-09-24 00:55:43   What's wrong with giving a Davis perspective on a Woodland wiki page? I imagine a future where we have vibrant wikis for all 6 cities in the area, and it would be tremendously awkward to have 6 different wiki pages all about the same location. The accounts are shared, software-wise they're basically the same, all that's changing is the URL. —ScottRitchie

2012-10-04 10:35:20   I got to talking to Max from Village cab, Apparently he now owns the name "Davis Taxi" so all these out of town taxis using the generic name... Can't..

Also I figured out how SITOA / STA / the one other works. We should make a catch all page for Cabs under those orgs... —StevenDaubert

2012-10-04 23:27:17   Thank you for catching the spam on my husband's AP Driving page! We never would have figured it out ourselves. —lunelectronique

2012-10-08 20:02:41   On Polynesia Yoga I was trying to respect her style format as was suggested awhile back when I did a similar change. —PeteB

2012-10-09 13:26:21   FYI I did NOT remove that picture from executive cleaners. I should've seen that. —PeteB

2012-10-14 18:59:47   Excuse me, but it looks like you have edited my comments out of vini wine bar. You had no right to do that. Do it again, and I'll remove yours. —DavisLurker

2012-10-17 23:24:27   Thanks for your work on the 2012 election page! :) —ScottMeehleib

2012-10-23 16:11:18   absolutely not I never said anything of that nature, I just said that I'm not going to question/hold someones baggage (not to say rape is baggage) against them. If someone comes at me with a zany quasi rude request and I'm a manager it's my job to roll with the punches and move onto the next sale, not win a non argument or make a point out of the side of my mouth, especially if I had a corporate structure hanging over me.

Don't read too deeply into my musings, it's just what popped into my head when I got done reading all four comments and I figured I would share, that way if said anonymous coward ever felt like coming back they wouldn't feel like everyone felt like they were in the wrong (notice how it's hard to figure out of thompson is male or female based on the info provided?)

Tl;Dr Nothing is cut and dried, if the comment is outlandish and the person doesn't stand by it delete it and move on, if they do stand by it great we got another person on the wiki —StevenDaubert

very very true. I have two thoughts on the matter 1) I would expect a manager to grin and bear it, they have to manage people for a living... An hourly employee not so much. 2) after reading your comment this seems kinda applicable (in more ways than one), thanks 2pac [WWW] Daubert

2012-10-27 09:32:41   Thanks for the details about the wood burn regulations. It is hard not to either mindlessly support something or attack a strawman — even with good intent — when all you have are vague outlines of what might be. Empty vessels full of demons or angels. —JabberWokky

2012-10-30 13:30:12   The "important bit" that I deleted was removed intentionally because it was misleading and inaccurate. The pepper spray Pike used is only controlled in California because of its size, not its content. You can buy the same spray with the same delivery mechanism as long as the canister is 2.5 oz or smaller. If you go north to Oregon, you can buy the exact same cans Pike used. It's more of a reflection of the weird laws we have in California than anything special about the spray. Also, suggesting that Pike's misuse of the spray was criminal is an unreasonable stretch. Civil liability? Yes. Criminal liability for battery? Perhaps. But his misuse is negligent at best, not criminal. —WilliamLewis

2012-11-02 16:51:46   Yes, the vegan burrito is a new item at Taqueria Davis. It's not on their menu board yet but they have a small sign on the counter with the details. Haven't tried it yet though. —ScottMeehleib LOL new as of like many months ago. Anything from Dtaq is good. Daubert

2012-11-06 13:28:50   I hesitated when I did it for that specific reason (and pretty much only that reason). I kicked open the talk page for community discussion regarding public news versus compassion, but I'm pretty clear on my personal take. I moved it back on the concept that if it causes multiple people to question it, then it should probably be up there. I'll try to remember to move it back down tomorrow. —JabberWokky

2012-11-13 11:54:05   Ok sorry.... —PeteB

2012-11-13 13:45:14   Oh, I just noticed your comment about the vegan burrito on my page. Thanks for letting me know! I'll try it soon. —ScottMeehleib

2012-11-14 14:53:44   Forgot to reply to your note about the pre-election interview. Thanks. I thought it was important to sit down with her so she could elaborate on where she was coming from and why she made the decision to send it. I also agree with the thing about the HuffPo headline. It suggests there is some new news in there, but all of the sources come from the early news stories and wiki edits. Makes more sense once you get into the story, though, I guess. —justincox22

2012-11-17 23:00:46   has zindgani gotten another bite at the apple or is the last review the most current one? —StevenDaubert

2012-11-21 07:59:42   Sure, that is a good idea, but I still stick to the view that my association with Davis Wiki is that of an information source that strives to be full spectrum, on every page, to be more or less reasonable on every page. It sure is no chicken wing/meat cookbook, is it? —ConstantiaOomen

2012-11-21 22:37:02   I've always found honest ethical vegetarianism an unassailable position to hold. I really think you presented the reasoning quite well. Thank you. —JabberWokky

2012-11-22 11:47:15   Incidentally, many Amish love GM crops, as the view they don't like technology is a misconception: they aim for a simple and self-sustaining community lifestyle, and GMOs help them achieve that goal. It makes sense when you think about it. —JabberWokky

2012-11-22 15:26:26   I'd guess that it isn't Roundup/sterile seed style GM crops. I'd guess there are options if you're looking. That is, if I didn't make it clear, a few guesses. However Google gives more info: [WWW]this article, plus some BBC video clips if you search for Amish GM crops. There's a certain cadence and rationale to the Amish that made sense after I'd spent time with them as friends (non-practicing members) and neighbors. I do think they are widely misunderstood: they use modern medicine and use cell phones for emergencies, just not for casual use that might disconnect them from each other. It's an interesting choice, more similar to the minimizing of possessions some people do than any kind of fear of technology. —JabberWokky

2012-11-29 14:56:12   Thank you for not comparing it to Katrina or Sandy. What is going on with Northern California media's inability to just call it a bad storm? —JabberWokky

2012-11-29 14:59:17   Oh my god, is that really happening? The media has to exaggerate everything. —CovertProfessor

2012-12-10 20:22:57   Perhaps there should be a community alert warning about the crowding of the community alert page. Teehee teehee. —LoriOrf

2012-12-11 00:19:32   A crowded Community Alert means that lots of people are updating, and that makes me happy. —BrentLaabs

2012-12-11 10:44:05   The Community Alert stuck me as amusing yesterday: By 2013, between sites like the wiki, Google Plus and Facebook, we may finally reach the pinnacle of local, global and silly discourse that was 1983's BBS community. —JabberWokky

2012-12-11 20:39:37   I was trying to think of a good photo for the Featured Page. That's a great one. —JabberWokky

2013-01-05 13:43:05   Glad you like them. Now that I have a better camera, I'm planning to take lots more photos. :) —ScottMeehleib

2013-01-08 16:38:41   Thank you for the concern. My father unexpectedly passed away recently. I just got back earlier today from an extended trip to see him after things went poorly following what should have been routine surgery. He passed away on January 1st, and the funeral was yesterday. It has been a very rough time, both emotionally and physically (we've been travelling by van between several states in the last few weeks, having only packed for a couple days). I put pretty much everything on hold. I did pop in on RC on my phone a couple times a day, usually in the mornings and evenings, but didn't really have time nor feel like engaging in editing. Currently, I'm a bit numb, totally exhausted, and looking forward to something approaching normal life. We still haven't even unpacked. —JabberWokky

2013-01-08 17:33:27   I grabbed the no-on-i png image from their website. I'll let you place it. —gcoville

2013-01-12 11:13:12   Great idea with the collage! —JabberWokky

2013-01-16 16:59:32   I'm glad you kept the enterprise.jpg as a part of the davis enterprise page, I am a new wiki user and was practicing while trying to beautify that page. I only took the photo down because it was slightly embarrassing to the Enterprise to have the main photo be an old sign with a gaping hole in it. —AaronWedra

2013-01-18 15:58:39   I just noticed that you were the one to add info about the upcoming Goodwill store. Thanks for going into the controversial aspects. I first learned about all of it last week from a discussion with four homeless individuals; all were adamantly opposed to Goodwill's actions and quite sympathetic to the operators of the laundromat, who they said were very friendly people who have been there for 40+ years. It's a sad state when "Goodwill" has good reason be viewed as antagonistic to the homeless.

I read the comments in the most recent Vanguard article you linked to. As usual, mostly typical disheartening disdain or apathy from that group of users. So thanks again for raising awareness to this seemingly subtle but important issue which will affect many low-income residents. —ScottMeehleib

2013-01-28 17:51:47   Thanks for enabling that alert, and then disabling after the arrest. Would I want to add text about the arrest to the alert page, or just delete the content all together (because of the arrest). Or just let it ride as is for now? —justincox22

2013-01-28 18:11:38   plonked —JabberWokky

2013-01-28 20:15:53   Hi, on the salons and barbers page there is still a comment with a spam link from that nick ferra person. Did you intentionally leave that or did you just miss it? I thought I'd ask instead of making assumptions and messing with your edit :) —LoriOrf

2013-01-29 16:51:34   Yes, that's better, thanks. So what would be your favorite restaurant to take a visiting 86-year-old aunt for lunch? —DonShor

2013-01-29 17:36:26   Thanks Prof. Kind words do seem to help. —Davidlm

2013-02-03 15:47:53   Excellent suggestion, and I hadn't thought of that one. Thanks! —DonShor

2013-02-05 17:51:02   I am not going to be patient for Leticia's games this time. I will be merciless in my reverts if she continues the campaign of false positive info —PeteB

2013-02-06 13:16:10   processing —StevenDaubert

2013-02-06 22:02:18   I have uploaded the map on the current measure I page. The map is from the city. The river water from the proposed take-out could be legally sold
anywhere in the green areas. Those areas (not counting UCD acreage)
add 50% more area to the built-up land Davis now covers. —StevenDaubert

2013-02-07 08:59:08   much obliged I gave it a quick U/L and then had to IRL

glad you enjoy the musings —StevenDaubert

2013-02-07 11:03:31   CovertProfessor, I read your review about the possible red light violation when a little part of your front bumper went over the line, I had the same thing happened to me this morning at Russell and Sycamore, but I'm sure I was behind the line or maybe my license plate was a little over it. I saw one flash go off. So I was wondering if you ever got the ticket when it happened to you last year? —kuriman

2013-02-08 10:35:45   Hi CovertProfessor:

Aaron and I have tried to update information on The Enterprise page quite a few times over the past couple of years and our updates always get the 'revert' treatment. Much of the information was never true (Iris was never the Circulation Manager- in addition, she has now been retired for over two years) or is outdated- Sharon Stello now works for the OC Register, John Edwards has been in Marysville, Nebraska and NC working at different papers for a couple of years now... and our independent contractors do not get paid the rate you keep reverting to. Our insert businesses have changed. We'd like to add our legal advertising email address to the list of our emails we'd like folks to be able to use. You can now link to an article and it will always link to that article. Regular columns and features needs updating- it is an incomplete list of our long-time columnists. MUCH of the 'information' that is listed appears to be a comment rather than community description of the business. Someone's experience as a paperboy is awesome (even when admitting sleeping in on a Sunday!), but belongs in the comments rather than in a description of the business- even built from the community's perspective.

"The wiki's content, its meaning, its purpose—it's up to you. As a general rule you should contribute content you think will be helpful or insightful to others, but even this rule can be broken at times. Interesting things stay; bad content gets cleaned up, expanded upon, improved, or removed. Never be afraid to try something new, to edit something, to make your voice heard.

This is our place, our resource, our voice."

Aaron and I also live in Davis (as do the owners of the paper and a great deal of our staff) - our voice is also local.

Our current efforts are not working. How can we update and correct information?

Thank you for the guidance-
Kim, (530)756-0800 —KimberlyYarris

Hi Kim: We aren't a neutral bland information only site, Comments actually SHOULD be integrated into an article instead of banished to the lower half. Think of the wiki as a tool for collaborative authorship, not a yelp/Wikipedia clone. Make the changes you mentioned one at a time and then fill out the bar (in the edit page) that says "please comment about this change" for each change. That way editors in recent changes can see that you are updating info and not just "blanking in progress" ~SD P.S. Where is T.Burt these days

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