This page is for discussing the contents of EveWestBessier.
Should the content of the page be turned into a regular page called Eve West Bessier?
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As I have told FKnochauer, I think it reads as an ad...it's info-heavy. I suggested he lighten it up a bit content-wise but I see no reason for outright nuking it without discussion, especially considering his explanation that he did it for a person who HAS tried to create a page and has been unsuccessful. —PeterBoulay
If someone can rewrite the former content of this page into something that complies with Wiki Community/For Profit Restrictions, I would have no objections to putting it elsewhere. I just don't have the motivation to do so. Of major concern to me here is the use of imperative and puffery. If this cannot be done, the content must remain deleted. —WilliamLewis
Clearly, fknochenhauer simply doesn't understand the difference between a user page and a public page. No harm no foul — it's an honest mistake that anyone can make. So, yes, let's make it a Eve West Bessier page. As for the content, yes, that will need to be worked on to make it less promotional. —CovertProfessor
Copied over from fknochenhauer's user page:
I've been deliberately staying away from this, but I do want to make one clarification: see Wiki Community/Glossary for the difference between a User Page and a Public Figure Page. The problem William is raising is that the page was created as a user page for someone who (as far as I can tell) isn't a user. Hence, it's the wrong page. Eve West Bessier would be the place to make a page about Ms. Bessier, rather than Users/EveWestBessier.
I'll also note that I find it to be pretty promotional. It reads like a an advertisement. The problem isn't the amount of information, it's the tone. —TomGarberson
2011-09-13 13:05:27 Thanks for the thread. I appreciate your collective wisdom and feedback. Here is what I posted to cover "intent" and how arbitrary WilliamLewis acted and why this page has been created:
2011-09-13 12:34:38 Don't jump to conclusions about why Eve has not made edits to "her" wiki.
We're talking about a "gift" of time made by me to Eve who has for years been frustrated by not being able to create, understand or manage her own wiki. I knocked it out in less than a day cheerfully and without recompense. My first wiki, ever. This is why I've done all those little edits while she has taken a week off from teaching students in Davis (her only vacation this year). Last night, I sent the link to her wiki for her review. A "Comment" box was included today in the page which should have been the first "go to" area for feedback. I'm NOT angry with you, but puzzled by your arbitrary decision to delete valuable information without prior communication. I'm a stakeholder since I spent time and energy on her behalf and expected something tangible on the Davis Wiki. Instead, you've summarily deleted a creative project that was well-formatted.
Since many of the raw data files used for Eve's page reside on my Mac, I must use my account and my Mac for creating Eve's wiki. There is no subterfuge here. I'm not profiting from this nor is Eve who simply doesn't have the time or energy to "play" in setting up her wiki. Personally, I enjoyed the challenge. Until now.
As a 25 + year resident of Davis, Eve West Bessier is considered a community asset, a public figure, a performing artist, an instructor to many youth and adults, as well as a well-regarded citizen. There is no intent here to create "an ad" but rather portray her value to the community and her capabilities in serving it. Perhaps the page was nicely developed, well-linked and "looked" different, but other musicians and music teachers also have personal wikis with such information. Restoring Eve's wiki seems sensible and providing the guidelines as you have done is helpful. Thanks for being rational about this. We look forward to seeing Eve's wiki restored.
I encourage you to review Eve's published works and long-term commitment to the Davis community: ![[WWW]](http://wikispot.org/wiki/eggheadbeta/img/sycamore-www.png){kind=small}
http://www.evewestbessier.com/published-works.html. Or Google her. —fknochenhauer
