Name: Garrett Gallegos, aka "Chee-eee-eeze"

E mail Address: gmail at garrettg dot com

Phone Number: 707-555-YOUR-MOM

Office: My Car

Personality: I'm an Aries. I like walking on hot coals, throwing sticks at Davis Townies, and making kitten-pot pies!

Formerly I was a resident of the MU, spending much of my time there.

Look me up on MySpace or Facebook if you care enough... But don't Add me unless I know who you are, or else you'll get the SHAFT!

If you (for some reason?) do not like me, feel free to leave some anonymous (or not!) productive criticisms (and I DO NOT expect them to be "Politically Correct" - in fact, I would hope that they aren't!)...

I am sure some people think I am "not nice" because of my comments on this wiki. The fact is that this wiki has a lot less average users than when I started using it, and a lot more wiki-trolls who care about irrelevant details or making it "pretty". I would first like to say that I am very, very nice guy who tries to contribute valuable information to this wiki from time to time. My contributions are all intended to benefit the greater community of Davis, I'm not going around saying "you're wrong" or "you're formatting is wrong" or things like that - my intentions are only to benefit Davis.


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2007-07-03 14:24:19   hi! nice info on the Sonoma County page. and i pretty much agree with you about Taqueria Guadalajara. chao. —JessicaRockwell

Sometimes you smell like mothballs and bacon. —JillBenciWoodward

RE: your comment on Heron Technologies, you can in fact get computer parts @ RadioShack for only slightly above normal prices. —MasonMurray

2010-05-27 16:49:19   [woodland]El Torito Meat Market. —JasonAller

2010-09-29 15:38:15   I'm sorry I "snapped" at you, but this is very misleading and confusing: "Organizers were hoping to get more than 4,000 people to join Davis's effort to break the record of 3,515 bicycles (See below). Knowing that Davis had very little chance of breaking that, Guinness agreed to create a brand-new World's Record Book category called "Longest Single Line of Bicycles" with a minimum count of 1,000 bikes." It was the larger record that they thought they had no chance of breaking. I appreciate your seeking out the facts, and don't know what to make of the disconnect between them and what has been reported in the Enterprise (and I assume the Enterprise got the info directly from the Davis Odd Fellows). Also, don't feel as though opinions need to be banished to the comments section — they are welcome anywhere on the page. If someone has a different opinion, they are welcome to add that, too. —CovertProfessor

2010-10-01 16:38:31   Hey Garrett, minor request: please be sure to preview before submitting an edit. Lots and lots of minor edits can make for a pretty messy page history (and recent changes page). —TomGarberson

2010-10-01 17:11:09   I for one found also found the stop torrenting suggestion laughable, but refrained from sharing said thought until now... —StevenDaubert

tl;dr. My nerd friends do nerd things then tell me comcast is terrible and provide data / stories to support this. Comcast should have enough bandwith to handle anything, let alone a bunch of slapdicks torrenting, I don't claim to know comcast network topology but getting no synch clearly isn't a not enough bandwith too much traffic issue. Besides problems or not people shouldn't have to jump thru hoops or modify how they use the connection they pay for... I dunno, it looks like your suffering Jason Aller eque burnout on the wiki, bummer Daubert

2010-10-01 17:11:18   Sorry if I was a little brusque, or if my comment came at a bad time. I appreciate your contributions to the wiki, and didn't mean to troll. My point is that previewing to cut down on the number of edits, as well as commenting on the changes you're making (e.g. "minor" or "grammar" or "reply to X") make things easier on the Davis Wiki community because A) it makes it far easier for people following a conversation or series of edits to track what's going on; and B) it makes it far easier later on for someone who wants to find information that was changed, figure out who said something, track a conversation, or whatever else. I probably should have explained initially, but it wasn't just (I don't think) a gripe about your editing style. It was intended to be a constructive suggestion. —TomGarberson

2010-10-02 00:52:49   Comcast and the Telecommunications Commission are the only groups with any authority over the problems. The Commission even has an opening right now, so you could have a chance at being appointed. The Comcast page right now just seems like the blind leading the blind. —NickSchmalenberger

2010-10-02 15:14:38   "Correlation is not causation" really applies to comcast's problems here. There is so much nobody besides Comcast knows about it, that its totally pointless to speculate. How is talking to the Telecommunications Commission not a productive suggestion? Or buying a Comcast worker whos actually working on the problem a beer? I think Comcast and the Commission are the only groups who have any chance of knowing the real story about these problems. Comcast could probably blow off the commission too, but at least its their job to try to know about these things and kick Comcast's ass when they're not good enough. Thats not the wiki's job, and the wiki is a dead end for finding real information about this, its a great place to put the info though. —NickSchmalenberger

2010-10-02 17:06:55   Mr. Gallegos, you shouldn't attack Comcast the way you are. They're a great company, and by besmirching their good name you make yourself look silly. Please stop the slander! I've been using comcast for years, and haven't had a single outage. Clearly, you're just working for a competitor and trying to ruin their reputation with your outrageous claims. —ComcastBob

2010-10-02 18:10:27   I was thinking you might be able to talk to an actual Comcast technician working in Davis, because maybe if they visited you they gave you a business card with their cell phone number? Usually they do this in case theres a problem with that job, and maybe that wasn't the case here, but you might have gotten their business card anyway. If you do get some real information from somebody who has actually worked on this problem when they weren't going to peoples houses reassuring them that they are working on fixing the problem, maybe you could post the info on the wiki? Thanks! —NickSchmalenberger

2010-10-02 18:25:11   Garrett, just because people disagree with you or your "solutions" (to a problem that doesn't exist) doesn't mean they're trolls. —ComcastBob

2010-10-03 12:36:44   Garrett, I think Bob's point was that there's a difference between disagreeing/making suggestions ("please preview" or "torrenting isn't causing the problem") and trolling ("you work for a competitor" or "there is no problem"). The first is other editors contributing in their way, by trying to improve the content of a page or trying to help people improve the usefulness of their editing. The second is trolling. In other words, prior to Bob, none of the people you called trolls were trolling you—even if you didn't think there was any value to what they had to say. —TomGarberson

2010-10-03 13:02:06   While ComcastBob is clearly (and admittedly) a troll account created specifically to illustrate to you the difference between a troll and people with different opinions, please do not make personal attacks on the wiki. We can disagree without calling each other names. —Evan 'JabberWokky' Edwards

2010-10-03 13:10:55   Tip—don't feed teh trolls. —OliviaY

2010-10-08 21:39:00   Garrett, I thought we had been over this: just because someone disagrees with you (e.g. "the guy's not douchey, he did something cool" could conceivably be an honest opinion, despite the fact that it's different from yours) doesn't mean they're trolling you. If someone is trolling, they're not trying to contribute a thing, they're just trying to be an ass, make life more difficult, and provoke a reaction. By calling someone a troll, you're insulting their opinion and calling their edit worthless. How about instead of effectively telling people they're worthless because they disagree with you, just acknowledging their opinion, disagreeing, and moving on? Anything else might just be douchey. —TomGarberson

2010-10-11 13:28:24   Since this is a pointless digression, I'll post it here. As you could have seen by looking at my user page, I did not study computer science at UC Davis. I studied electrical engineering. By hardware, I don't mean being an IT wonk (though I did that in a past life). I'm talking about designing hardware, which isn't necessarily a general purpose computer. —WilliamLewis

2010-10-11 13:45:33   It was a playful jab at software development in general. Whatever, dude. And you completely misunderstood what I said, to boot. —WilliamLewis

2010-10-11 14:26:11   Please stop misusing the word trolling. You and Tom got off on the wrong foot. Hell, I seem to recall you and I got off on the wrong foot (if so, sorry about that — details are hazy in my mind in any case). If you take a step back you'd see that he is a very well-meaning editor who generally bends over backwards to be fair. When he tries to get a page back on topic — when he is trying to keep a page organized — that is being a wiki gnome, but not a troll. A troll is someone who is just trying to get a reaction out of someone else. Trust me, that is NOT Tom. If he does something, it's because he genuinely believes in it, not because he wants to start an argument for arguments' sake. You are welcome to disagree with him, and with me, and with anyone you like, but it doesn't help to call people trolls who simply disagree with you, or who are trying to edit the wiki to make it better. —CovertProfessor

2010-10-11 17:01:03   Hi Garrett, let's try a reboot. First, welcome to the wiki. I'm Tom, it's nice to meet you. When interacting with editors, please remember to treat them with the same respect you would like. Calling people trolls when they mean well—even if you don't think they're being productive—isn't very nice. They might think their edits are productive.

For the record, my suggestion regarding previews and including edit notes was intended to be helpful. As a programmer, I'm sure you're familiar with the idea behind best practices. The wiki is built upon collaborative editing. One editor will contribute something, another will come along and touch it up or add something else, building upon what the first editor did. Having a concise history of annotated changes helps the process along greatly. —TomGarberson

You're incorrect in your assumptions about my feature requests. They have nothing to do with wanting to turn this into a forum, and everything to do with making it easier to clean up messes and contribute to ongoing issues.

  1. Notifications would be enormously valuable in staving off the problems that arise on a very regular basis with new editors who probably just aren't familiar with the wiki's business restrictions and that sort of thing. Business owners who make an advertisement page and move on, come back 6 months later and see that their advertisement has been changed, only to rewrite the advertisement and leave again, and so on. People who leave suspect reviews are often asked for more information. Often, though, those same people either don't swing by the wiki in the next week or, if they do, they don't log in. So more information never comes. For why this is a problem, see Strelitzia Flower Co for the racist accusation incident (it's one of many problems along those lines).

  2. A useful threading system, both within a page and across pages, comes up when there are sizable discussions. Particularly when people don't annotate their edits, it can be pretty tough to figure out who is talking to whom without rereading the entire discussion. It's really not the same if you aren't trying to follow it while it's still in progress, but try going through the edit history on March 4, 2010 Public Education protest to see what I mean. Likewise with the California National Primate Research Center and associated talk page. Contrary to what you've repeatedly said, discussions frequently contribute to the Wiki in and of themselves, because they add content, context, and perspectives. If they're too difficult to follow, that value can be lost. And I guarantee you that any difficulties experienced by regular editors ten times worse for new editors. The public education protest brought in many new editors, and things got exceptionally muddled after the first couple of hours.

  3. The other feature I've requested in a few different places is a decent IP address lookup/cross-reference system that would allow you to see which IP addresses a given user has used, which users have used a given IP address, and so on. I'm sure that one also fits into your "dumb" suggestions category, but it comes up on a regular basis with sockpuppets and bogus reviews, and would be a very useful tool in trying to protect the wiki from whitewashing, false information, and other forms of vandalism.


  4. Not trying to spread anything bad, but I do tend to agree with tg as far as the features go. As for having only a handful of editors who control everything on the Wiki... Not true at all. Yes, there are definitely a handful who are much more active than most, but if you look it up there are quite a few who put themselves out there in the effort to inform and maintain this site. It isn't declining it is only growing. — Wes-P

  5. Just to add some context, Garrett — it happened the page was created during a time when the wiki was being inundated with some editors causing problems (as Tom alludes to — accusations of racism, overly advertise-y pages, personal insults and profanity), and all of us were pulling our hair out trying to get these new editors' attention. That little yellow flag in the upper corner — not everyone sees it, apparently. We *wanted* to work with new editors, to see if we could turn things around, but we couldn't contact them. That's why the page is so focused on gnome tools. For whatever reason, things have been a little quieter in those areas lately. That being said, I think you raise some important points about ways to help get more new editors. Personally, I didn't have any trouble learning the markup, but you are 100% right that many are intimidated by it. This is what the Local Wiki project is partly about, though. You should definitely get involved if you have ideas for ways to make it easier for people to edit the wiki. I know you expressed skepticism about a complete re-write, but if you get in there, listen to what others have to say, you can either be convinced by their reasons or try to convince them otherwise, and in any case, have your ideas heard and perhaps acted on. Just remember that people won't generally won't want to work with someone if they feel they are being insulted. :-) —CovertProfessor

2011-10-28 18:50:16   Howdy, Mr. Gallegos! How's Comcast treating you these days?

I kid, I kid. I don't even need to ask, of course they're treating you great! Such a great company. I just love their customer service, don't you? —ComcastBob

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