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Phone

(814) 889-8845

Call from 4:00am to 3:00pm (Pacific)

Or anytime there's an emergency (serial spammers, etc)

Email

<jw.dw AT timewarp DOT org>

Twitter

JWokky

Location

2117 Bernard Ave., Nashville, TN

Visitors always welcome!

IRC

JabberWokky on OpenProjects, in #daviswiki

Type of restaurant

Comfort Seafood and Grill with a classy island vibe.

Greetings! My name is Evan Edwards, but I'm also well known as JabberWokky (Really... even my wife calls me Wokky). I can be identified thusly: A rather large fellow of Scot-Irish ancestry. Long red-brown hair (only visibly red in good sunlight) with a very full beard. I always wear black jeans and never wear tee-shirts (okay, I wear them when I'm working at home and sometimes when I'm in the workshop, but never when I am out). In winter (and sometimes in summer), I wear a large black trench coat. My laptop, eddie, is a MacBook Pro 7,1 running Linux. I'm friendly, meaning I only bite if you're cute and ask nicely. One easy identifier is my black hat, technically an outback hat, which is somewhat like a large fedora.

Over the years that I've been on the wiki, I've collected or written quite a few things.
Select from the pages below to navigate through my various personal pages.

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My beautiful, stalwart and sagacious wife, Dr. Sarah Edwards, is in the early years of her academic career. As a result of pursuing her chemistry research. We've been in exile from Davis for the past several years, although we return from time to time to visit, and we'd like to move back someday. She's currently a member of faculty at Vanderbilt in Nashville, Tennessee, which is where we now live. We'd like to have her get her tenured professorship at a short list of institutions, with UC Davis at or near the top (of course, Vanderbilt is now on the list, and we're enjoying getting to know the Vandy community). Why am I so involved in the Wiki? Davis was our home, and we'd like it to be again. Sarah will be a professor of chemistry, we like small university towns and we already know we love Davis.

After Davis, Sarah obtained her doctorate from Penn State. If you are looking to become a grad student at Penn State in State College, Pennsylvania (or move here for any other reason), contact us with any questions you might have. Penn State is much larger than UC Davis, but it is an ag school, and you'll see similar traits but with greater resources (important for grad students) and with an East Coast flavor to the population (which is worth living among to get a feel for different viewpoints).

Likely a sockpuppet for David Poole, like most other users on the wiki. Of course, it is also documented fact that he is Jason Aller, so perhaps Jason is also a sockpuppet. Regardless, he prefers, being a Henson fan, to be referred to as a "sockmuppet". He is in full favor of, and thinks it would be "spiffy keen" to see some DavisWiki fanfic. He seems to have launched an effort to employ wiki editors to do pretty much the same thing, only paid. His attention to detail is appreciated, as the wiki keeps informing him.

A note about the name: Yes, people call me Jabber, Wokky and JabberWokky in real life (including my SO, who tends to use the more popular "Wokky"). Yes, it started life as a reference before the web existed, and it started out intentionally misspelled. I camelCap it for ease of use. I get magazines sent to "Wokky, Jabber", and have gotten credit card offers to Mr. Jabber Wokky. Yes, people call me Evan as well. Note that as long as this account has existed, the redirect EvanEdwards has existed. In 2006 and 2008, I officially voted using it, having registered as a voter using the name. Cheap Thrills is more than a Big Brother album. Woo.

If you want to get really into it, I'm also known as Lænas in the SCA (formally, Decimus Musonius Lænas), and Sarah is Mania Aurelius Dorthea Scaeva. She's a left-handed heavy weapons fighter.

I enjoy Rocky Horror, the SCA (and late period Roman history) celebrating odd holidays, some SubGenius, some invented by oddball people. International Panic Day (June 18th) is celebrated by roasting (what else?) a DUCK! I also breed fancy mice. Really.

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My desktop in 2010. A third (fourth if you count the laptop) monitor was added, and a desk is now being built. An older photo. It's a longer, grayer beard nowadays. An Artist's Rendition Alternate universe version. Note the lack of beard, indicating this is the 'Good Universe' JabberWokky.

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2011-11-10 16:24:11 try Everett Jones next time you are in the bay area

or just order some sauce from the website —StevenDaubert

2011-11-10 19:37:02 Thx for the note. Sorry man I think he's full of it. IP's don't change that often. Where there's smoke... :) —Users/PeterBoulay

2011-11-11 15:36:53 Daviswiki == wikispot Localwiki != wikispot

at least that is how I saw it —StevenDaubert

2011-11-12 18:45:21 Philallen (banned) is back as PhillpAllen -please ban this version as well —Users/PeterBoulay

2011-11-13 02:14:05 Greetings, JW. Monsanto is very much in Davis. Early on they bought Calgene. They're a big investor in UCD and naturally have a big influence there. —BruceHansen

2011-11-13 21:25:07 I was thinking that the link applies to a legal issue of biotechnology, the page it's on. I probababy would have put it on the Monsanto page if there was one. There should be one, mostly because of its huge investment in a center at UCD. —BruceHansen

2011-11-18 03:34:12 My bad, I guess. I thought SOPA was related to Davis...'ll try not to do SOPA. —BruceHansen

2011-11-18 04:11:07 I wasn't trying to shield any thing. Anyone may edit an Incubator page (I even invite editing on BruceHansen/Incubator pages. You edited it, rather drastically. An incubator page is pretty much a regular seed page. It seems to me that this SOPA stuff involves a real world soap opera besides how a law would effect the wiki. —BruceHansen

2011-11-20 11:43:06 JW, can you do this? —CovertProfessor

2011-11-25 15:29:51 Definitely Occupy Davis and Occupy UC Davis are different. My thoughts about them have changed. One thought I had was that Occupy Davis would include Occupy Davis (City of Davis) and Occupy UC Davis, similar to Davis including City of Davis and UC Davis. Now a more accurate portrayal might be that there are Davis Occupies (Davis Occupys). Separate societies are springing up in the different Occupies. Some Davis Occupyers joined the UC Davis Occupy with the tents which were objectionable to the UCD Administration in the day or so before the pepper-spraying. Because of the issue of having UCD affiliated people on the campus, there is a kind of boundary for Occupy UC Davis. The Occupy Davis people see themselves as different than Occupy UC Davis. I talked to a UCD coed sophomore who was visiting Occupy Davis. She identifies with Occupy Sacramento (that she thinks should move to 16th/P Streets), because Occupy UC Davis is just addressing the tuition issue rather than other Occupy issues like banking. There is a shared identity among the different Occupyers. On a related topic to your question, I wonder what boundary there is between UC Davis Occupyers and all the students concerned with student issues. Also I don't know if the UC Davis Occupyers have a different name for themselves than Occupy UC Davis. —BruceHansen

I didn't know if you were serious about this not making "any sense." but I saw that there was lack of clarity. Is this better? On another topic, I've found out that there are some serious divisions among the students. Long-time friendships have suffered with divisions over Occupy UC Davis issues. —BruceHansen

2011-11-27 17:21:32 That

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—ndah100

2011-11-30 11:13:04 The example you gave, (The article is of interest to me. Thanks.) unlike the pepper spray article, has the toc after the first section. That would be fine with me with such a section of only four paragraphs, in that it invites attention to the first section. —BruceHansen

2011-12-01 09:31:30 Thanks. I <3 restroom innovations! —ScottMeehleib

2011-12-01 09:42:09 I'm inclined to agree with Scott that inequity isn't quite the right word. Imbalance does seem better to me. —CovertProfessor

2011-12-01 09:54:45 Have you actually heard anyone use that term, though? It seems enough to say that some people feel that the movement is made up of mostly white people and white concerns, and by failing to take into account the particular issues that people of color are facing, it is racist. An Occupy UC Davis example would be the person who pointed out at the Nov. 21 rally that people of color have been facing violent treatment from the police for a long time, but when white folks get sprayed, people pay attention. It's not a big deal, but the word just strikes an odd note for me. I do understand that it strikes an odd note for you as well, and that you're just trying to represent what others think. —CovertProfessor

2011-12-01 10:20:07 Thank you so much! Most awesome thing somebody's done for me in a long time. Yahoo said, "sorry, it's gone."

—Davidlm

2011-12-01 15:13:35 Word.

—Davidlm

2011-12-01 15:23:48 Hi JabberWokky. It might look better if the intro stayed on top, enlarge layer sprayer photo on the left with the toc on the right. —BruceHansen

2011-12-01 17:07:49 Sorry to drop out of the conversation like that — actually, I meant the term "inequitable," not the term "racist." I'd hear the latter used against the OWS movement, but not the former. Which brings up the question — has anyone called the Occupy Davis movement racist or inequitable? And if not, why mention it? The white power stuff is relevant because it's specific to Davis (and just plain weird), but is this? —CovertProfessor

2011-12-01 19:25:51 Sorry, I'm just getting more confused. I think I'll just leave things as they are — it's not that important. —CovertProfessor

2011-12-01 21:40:09 Thanks for the latest comment. I couldn't find where the request came from. Sorry I haven't got around to responding to some previous comments or other actions. —BruceHansen

2011-12-02 13:23:42 I don't know who is behind it. So you're not hosting it on dwiki because of copyright concerns? —WilliamLewis

2011-12-02 19:25:01 The DRC Facebook image was posted by whoever runs the Occupy UC Davis Facebook page, but I'm not sure who that is. FWIW, it was posted with the message "READ READ READ READ SHARE SHARE SHARE SHARE," so maybe that could be taken as implied permission. :-) —CovertProfessor

2011-12-02 21:16:58 I have a philosophical question for you. I've noticed that some of the descriptions on pages themselves are extraordinarily pointed, and often comments get adapted into pages without staying as comments. Is there a clear set of guidelines for when something should be a comment and when it should be in the page? —EliYani

2011-12-03 19:06:02 Hey Evan, is there any way to edit the events page? Somebody posted some incorrect information (twice), and I'd like to put it to rights... —Davidlm

2011-12-04 10:43:18 Sounds like a plan —TomGarberson

2011-12-04 10:53:54 Yeah, it didn't really seem like him. His health situation might make a hauling business impractical, and this Phil seems to work alongside a Michelle, rather than Terri Martinez. —TomGarberson

2011-12-04 10:56:40 Pretty sure it's not P.A. as he is homeless, still trying to use the court system to destroy people. He has no truck or trailer, i'm certain of this. —Theangrydiner

2011-12-04 12:13:55 Hey, I see you deleted the Business Category template. What's "Davis style"? Also, how do you suggest I work on the Businesses page if you don't want the new version up until it's ready? Perhaps I should create a Businesses/New Version page that isn't linked from anywhere, and then when it's ready we can move the material there over to the existing Businesses page? —NicholasBarry

2011-12-04 13:36:45 Yea the business is still there, and they're still trying to live off of Charlene's name with Fo Paws. He still employed with Bob Black, if you can believe that, I dont think Bob has any idea of what goes on, because he lives by the Oregon border. I understand too that he could be single in the near future, lets hope so. —Theangrydiner

2011-12-04 17:08:11 Sky and Telescope has been a staple in my household for as long as I can remember, along with Aviation Week & Space technology, Scientific American, Discover, and sadly the New Yorker

all quality publications, especially Aviation leak cause they are sharp cookies

go input your coordinates on heavens above, and then look at iridium flares in the next 7 days from your location, and find the one with the higher intensity and PEEP SCENE

pretty sure heavens above aggregates info from amateur trackers all around the world, and also has the algorithms that do the prediction for visibility and location dynamically... They have been doing this for quite some time, the layout of the page hasn't changed much.

as I kid I would go use the Hutchinson computer lab and go online, it was one of the sites I frequented

Do you remember the Bulletin Board era? —StevenDaubert

2011-12-05 07:04:51 I'm not positive, but I think I may have just ROFLcoptered. —TomGarberson

snicker* —cp

2011-12-05 15:46:40 I reverted the Gardening link on Cheap Food... it's both accurate (a cheap way to produce food) and kind of an interesting twist on the page. Plus, it's very Davisy! —TomGarberson

2011-12-05 15:49:58 Scratch that, I somehow thought the other person added the gardening link and you removed it. I had it backwards. Herp derp. —TomGarberson

2011-12-05 20:03:10 I looked at your edit and I could have sworn the text in question was on the left and yellow. I'm half wondering if I reversed the radio buttons or something. —WilliamLewis

2011-12-05 20:10:28 Dunno, for me Gardening was removed, so I reverted to restore it back. It's not strictly in the category of free food, but in a Davis mindset (and mine) it fits perfectly. Which is why I commented the way I did when I restored it. It's a less strict, more "woogey" association. And the correct one, I believe. —JabberWokky

2011-12-06 08:55:24 Sorry, maybe I asked too general a question with "What's 'Davis Style'?" I was referring to the comment you left when you deleted the Business Category template. What I meant was, can you help me learn why Davis Style is opposed to such a template? I think it's useful as a template. Perhaps the template can be improved upon, rather than being deleted entirely? —NicholasBarry

2011-12-06 10:45:06 Ok, cool. That makes sense. —NicholasBarry

2011-12-06 10:54:25 Good to know, about the deletes. And yeah, I got that from your comment about the reversion. Thanks! A revert can sometimes be taken as a reprimand, but I get the feeling that most people here use it as just another edit, as you say. —NicholasBarry

2011-12-06 13:17:01 Heh, yeah I don't know how much international coverage Sandusky was getting. I've actually really been enjoying some of the social aspects of getting my PhD. This floor of the building only hosts four labs, but we've got people from just about everywhere. The multiculturalism is kind of fun, at times. DREADFUL AT OTHER TIMES.

We used to try to map the languages and places traveled on a whiteboard somewhere; the map was completely covered with dots when we counted all four labs. My lab alone (counting all members from last year too) speaks/spoke: English, French, Spanish, Greek, German (Swiss-dialect), Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Congolese, Lingala, Assyrian, Persian (Iran), Persian Dari (Afghanistan), Turkish, Azerbaijani, Punjabi, Urdu. And that's all fluently... Less fluent, there's Dutch (French part of Belgium) and I suppose Hawaiin Pidgin.

I've learned to curse in SO MANY INTERESTING WAYS I CAN NOT EVEN BEGIN TO EXPLAIN. We have this habit of swapping translated colloquialisms that keep things funny at work, but oh man, my own spoken English is probably worse than ever. —EdWins

2011-12-06 13:21:16 Just noting I am part of the community too, despite dissenting views. :) —JeffWood

2011-12-06 21:13:01 3 different people from the same IP. I am not sure we can tell if it's someone removing someone else's comment or not —Users/PeterBoulay

2011-12-06 21:20:02 There's a history of people fudging identities on the Rambler page—whether it's staff or legitimate same-IP posters or not, I don't know but there's clearly something going on there. —Users/PeterBoulay

2011-12-07 21:28:58 The Supreme Court basically ruled that contracts can be written in this manner and companies can no longer be sued by customers. This is what the Occupy Movement is all about. It about the Supreme Court giving power to companies and denying customers the right to sue even if the company does something horrific to the customer. Big corporations obviously bribed the Supreme Court and this is dangerous because losing the right to sue could also be applied to employment contracts. —MaxLucas

2011-12-08 08:09:23 Actually, arbitration clauses are pretty effective, although it varies by jurisdiction. Under the Federal Arbitration Act there are very few circumstances where an arbitration clause in a contract for an interstate transaction isn't enforceable. Where a transaction doesn't cross state lines, the commerce clause doesn't give the federal government jurisdiction, meaning that the relevant state law applies. In California, I think the rule is that the court in which a lawsuit is filed is supposed to determine whether arbitration would be likely to create a result contrary to other recent, similar cases handled in the courts. It's a messy system. —TomGarberson

2011-12-09 19:02:33 The mapping stuff. Fucking awesome. —jefftolentino

2011-12-10 10:30:06 "Ronnie" also made a comment on Hunan's entry about giving hand jobs under the table. Just seems like poor trolling. —ScottMeehleib

2011-12-10 20:46:48 Hi, I just have a quick question. If I were to mention the value cards for $9.99 hair cuts at great clips on their page would it be too much of an advertisement or that would be acceptable? —LoriOrf

2011-12-10 22:29:51 Thank you for the info. It is purely for informational purposes; I am in no way affiliated with Great Clips. I tried to word it as neutrally and factually as possible. —LoriOrf

2011-12-11 18:10:15 Multiple people use the WoodstocksPizza ID so it is kind of pointless to ask them to identify as a singular user in this instance. Hope you have a great Holiday, Evan. I have been silent for a while but will be popping in from time to time. —Wes-P

2011-12-11 22:36:10 Hey Evan, in case you're not sure, yes, phealah is Phil Allen... —Davidlm

2011-12-12 19:15:58 A different Phil altogether. —Davidlm

2011-12-13 06:08:30 You wrote: "More importantly, you've gone way overboard in hyper analyzing the language here." First, isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black? Per your line of reasoning, you're the one who used "love". And that is why I originally replied. There's a saying in life, don't be an a-hole just because someone disagrees with you. People can have friendly disagreement. You made you case. I made mine. You don't see me attacking you the person; instead, I attacked your argument. Please kindly discern the difference. —jasoncw

2011-12-24 22:37:28 Thanks for the support! —DylanSchaefer

2011-12-29 13:10:47 Hah, neat. Pass along this suggestion: orange marmalade smeared on top of the...smaller cookies. —EdWins

2011-12-30 11:15:14 Hello JW, would you review my "Workspace" to see if the content of "constructive discussion" is itself constructive or offensive? Thank you for review. —EdgarWai

2011-12-31 00:32:24 *panda bear on your file* —ndah100

2012-01-01 18:29:39 Well said, let the police determine it. We don't want the wiki to become a place to spread unsubstantiated rumors. If they have the information they claim to have, the police should have no trouble proving those facts. Once proven, if it can be, then it should be able to stay. Well handled. —ChrisDietrich

Agreed. Some actions deserve a forceful reply. —CovertProfessor
Agreed. —tg

2012-01-02 18:20:01 When I was a kid watching the Mousekateers I thought I'd go to join them in the big city, Kansas City, MO where I assumed they were. Much later I started with the Davis Wiki and have been virtually error free. Maybe you should give up the glasses and give up figuring out what the words are? —BruceHansen

2012-01-02 19:54:01 Your readings of ..."Muppeteers"...reminded me of the Mousekateers. If you don't use your glasses there would be less difference between the possible readings and I was asking if that might be a solution. I didn't know what you might think or say in response. (It was generally meant to be a humorous comment, as you probably surmised.) —BruceHansen

2012-01-05 20:54:45 thank you, that means a lot to me to hear that. —DagonJones

2012-01-08 19:07:20 Hi Evan, a big happy New Year to you and yours. Hey on the ban page doesn't seem to be detailed information like a lot of other pages, like what wikis editors are banned from and dates they were banned on, if they're from different wikis and we knew which ones it would be more helpful. Thanks, have fun. —Theangrydiner

2012-01-09 15:48:50 There my eyes went again. I thought you said "ingratiating comment." —BruceHansen

2012-01-16 13:47:03 Not a clue, but if I get the chance I'm planning on contacting Elizabeth to see if she knows. —Davidlm

2012-01-17 17:52:41 The page only said "Davis, CA" as an address and did not say anything more specific that that. I looked around the web and I could only find their webpage that was entirely in Spanish and listed them as being located in Uruguay. If you find anything to the contrary that shows a Davis connection, by all means restore it, but from my investigation it seems it has nothing to do with Davis. —ChrisDietrich

2012-01-19 08:15:06 Thanks! Just reposted. —NicholasBarry

2012-01-19 14:33:37 The way the Big Book of AA is written and the way the official organization persists and is experienced (at least by me), I'd say it's very much Abrahamic in its foundation and with much to do about submitting (like Islam) and feeling guilty (moral inventories and listing everybody you've wronged). I don't believe AA is perfect by any means, and I certainly support splinter sects that seek to make certain groups more comfortable. —ScottMeehleib

2012-01-19 15:33:25 By the way, if you'd like to change the word from submission to something else, I'd probably be okay with that. I was shooting from the hip with that based on personal experience, but I'd welcome any alternative. I'm happy with AA in the sense that I feel like it works. However, I have criticisms and biases like any other person though that tend to creep out. The system works for me but it has a very antiquated style that a lot of people seem reluctant to mess with. Personally, as a Buddhist, it was kind of a hard issue even deciding if the system was even compatible with my beliefs to begin with. Talk of "higher powers" and "gods" doesn't resonate well with a system that rejects all absolutes. In the end, I decided that the Middle Way and just plain objective reasonableness would be my higher power. But again, this doesn't quite mesh well with the Big Book as it stands in terms of technical terminology. On the positive side, the Davis groups have always been very tolerant and I've never felt judged or ostracized for my beliefs. —ScottMeehleib

2012-01-20 11:34:08 I just noticed the bit where you called my description of AA disingenuous. That is an unfair characterization. I had the best of intentions in that writeup, and I am a supporter and member of AA. I agree that it appears as though the entry is slanted towards the religious elements, but that's only because that's where my primary interest lies. I guess it's fair to say that I am a deeply religious person, and so that was my initial attraction to the group. The biases and criticisms that I have were not intended to undermine an organization I greatly respect and admire. They do however reflect my experiences, and with time, I would hope that other people would share the secular parts that are of interest to them. AA remains a primarily religious organization, however, and people deserve to know that. Otherwise they will be confused when they attend their first meetings and are offered not only the Big Book but another book called "Came to Believe" which has chapters titled The Spirit Touch and another dealing with spiritual synchronicity. —ScottMeehleib

2012-01-20 14:44:02 Feel free to make whatever changes you want to the AA entry. I don't like the term "splinter sects" either, but I couldn't think of anything better. There is, after all, an official AA organization and everything that changes the formula is technically splintering off from the norm. Having said that, I was simply trying to make an informational entry. Delete or revise anything that you feel is detrimental. Personally, I have very little respect for the 11th tradition as it stands in regards to my own personal participation in AA. Like a lot of AA, it's outdated IMO. My name is not explicitly plastered to any of my edits anyway, and is only visible to the most devoted wikians who dig into recent changes. —ScottMeehleib

2012-01-20 16:12:17 Thanks, but no apology is necessary. It's inevitable that such misunderstandings will arise from time to time. No worries! I understand where you are coming from now as I'm sure you understand my point of view as well. Thanks again though for seeing what I was after. —ScottMeehleib

2012-01-25 12:56:36 Hi Evan thanks for your comment about the tiny houses :) I know there are many other players and I would love to have people flesh the page out...I just listed a few I am familiar with. I'm only starting to look into these homes, but I was really surprised there is not already a group in Davis (or at least a page on the wiki) active with these houses! Or maybe there is, and they will come out of the woodwork and onto the wiki :) I would love to see someone's project. Are you familiar with Portland Alternative Dwelling's vardo plan? Yes I did get permission from Tumbleweed to use the pix. :) —StephHolm

2012-01-26 10:05:41 Hi Evan, sorry to have dragged Little Girl into the Tiny House discussion, may she rest in peace, but i needed to make a point :) What kind of mouse was she, she was SO pretty! We have rats and if there was a breed that looked like that I would love to get one. —StephHolm

2012-01-26 10:08:15 Would you be interested in joining DATHE? I am just excited that I came up with an acronym that can be spoken as if its a word. Yay! —StephHolm

2012-01-26 20:21:19 I have no idea what the question of "full blown trolling" is about. —BruceHansen

2012-01-26 20:27:00 "confusion" —BruceHansen

2012-01-30 14:47:16 Thanks jw! Well my stuff is all made in China so that might irk a few people....but it all helps keep a very enthusiastic 8 year old Davisite involved in Davis sports groups and keeps us patronizing Davis restaurants, so...it's all good! Hey if there can be a page about "spicy food" (such as defining what it is and how you should ask the server if you want it to not be so spicy) then there can be a page about plastic beads and tiny houses! ;-) —StephHolm

2012-02-01 10:28:18 Good call. Maybe I'll get rid of the snark regarding translations of "no" then... —TomGarberson

2012-02-01 16:31:13 Left Hand Milk Stout is one of my favorites but I've never seen it for sale in CA. Sigh. —MikeyCrews

2012-02-02 11:53:11 Hi there...does it take you to facebook with the photo of the tiny house? I think I have to add you as a member perhaps.....can you "request to join?" I tried thelink from my phone and it did take me to the facebook group. what is your name on facebook?

—StephHolm

2012-02-02 13:09:14 Oh ok i gotcha. no i don't think so. i am not logged into facebook here at work (i think it's blocked anyway) and when i click on the link i go to facebook's login or register page. ah what the hey, make one real quick! LOL you can befriend "tiny house design" and "tiny house blog" and D-SATHE, and bungalow-to-go, and..... :)

—StephHolm

2012-02-06 11:21:53 The employees don't know what it means. Multiple In N outs have told me to say "extra everything" instead. —MikeyCrews

2012-02-06 11:49:45 Hey Evan do you think it would behoove me to create some other kind of online group for the TIny House lovers? I am not sure how many people "don't do" facebook.....maybe a yahoo group? —StephHolm

2012-02-06 12:25:53 Thanks. I know that whatever service you choose there are always some people that are "against" using that service so you can't please everyone :( I hate to have people not join tho because of that —StephHolm

2012-02-06 12:51:25 Yah i don't want to do that...i mean those of us who are on facebook already with other groups etc it's super easy to have this group on facebook, but it excludes those few who don't use it. So i would rather not do that but i need alternate solutions. easy to use, fast, and smartphone friendly would be key. i love that i get ding dong updates on my phone when someone posts. i'm all about the instant gratification! LOL —StephHolm

2012-02-06 14:29:19 Evan have you joined the google group for DCCN? I just did and heard from the owner that he just went to the city offices yesterday inquiring about this exact topic! THey are already planning their tiny houses LOL —StephHolm

2012-02-07 00:11:08 Thanks. I'll read it after I eat something. —BruceHansen

2012-02-08 08:49:20 He's moving it in an attempt to bury it & hope it goes away man-until he starts answering the specific questions asked that is what it looks like to me. I am AMAZED with the patience displayed by the community on this one. I know I had some issues when I first came but this is simply unique and I am as frustrated as others have shown to be —Users/PeterBoulay

2012-02-08 11:22:04 I'm doubtful that there has been a salon name change. —CovertProfessor

2012-02-08 12:25:33 Makes sense. —CovertProfessor

2012-02-08 13:21:04 oooh really? I've always looked at that property as I go by, it's one of the cooler places tucked in town —StevenDaubert

2012-02-08 14:24:44 we should discuss awesome corners of Davis next time we meet in the physical realm —StevenDaubert

2012-02-08 15:22:47 It occurred to me right after I posted that it was unfair to include her name, especially since she remained at the scene of the accident and had no drugs or alcohol in her system. Nobody asked me to remove... I just didn't want to create a situation in which people started assigning (potentially unfair) blame. I'll follow the story, though. —justincox22

2012-02-08 16:36:51 keep me in the loop —StevenDaubert

2012-02-09 21:15:35 Parody, yes! A better term. I'm the one who gets sarcastic. :-) —CovertProfessor

2012-02-10 04:06:19 Hi there, I understand keeping the comment about the Dr jack Lin DDS is try to protect Davis community. However, Down south in Australia, we have two dental specialist who share the same name as the bad one in Davis. Our specialist service is base on the referral. However, before our patients contact our office make the appointment wait for 2-3 months and travel few hundred kilometer, they always search about the specialist they are about to see on google. Unfortunately , that wiki comments came on top of search list. Most of my patient does not realise they are reading a comment across the pacific ocean. One of the patient decided to travel further 5 hours away to see my other colleague, instead seeking a treatment locally. However, she end-up with severe infection and hospitalized for few days. I did not notice about this web page until my colleague call me in person.

All I want is to protect my patient and local community as you do in Davis. Is that any way you can help me to resolve this issue. Regards, Dr Jack C. Lin (Endodontist) —JackLin

2012-02-11 16:04:23 Davis is certainly lacking a mythical beast. Most of the material on the Urban Legends page is about suicides or haunted houses and just isn't very inspiring. I also wasn't inspired when I looked at Left Hand's website and saw that they don't distribute in CA or any contiguous states. —MikeyCrews

2012-02-16 18:16:39 in any given story you have to come up with an ending that doesn't make people go AWWW MAN, or throw your whole premise under the bus. Just thinking out loud to you about Fictional story creation... —StevenDaubert

2012-02-17 15:43:23 No problem —Users/PeterBoulay

2012-02-18 15:15:03 Hmm, maybe I didn't express myself very well. What I was trying to say was this: The pepper spray incident and related judgments of blame are very value-laden. So, it is not possible to come to purely fact-based objective conclusions. Some would go further and say that because values are involved, no objective conclusions can be drawn at all. However, I don't believe that; I believe that it's possible to have an objective discussion of values — I just don't think the wiki is a good place for doing that. So, the best we can do is represent the range of values and opinions in the Davis community. I think we agree on that last point. Sorry, my response to EW was being a bit hair-splitty without saying why. —CovertProfessor

2012-03-01 12:56:31 Sure... I try to avoid getting them, but when I get them, I reuse them. I still don't think it makes sense that they be given out like candy at stores. If people need bags, they can buy the appropriate bag for the purpose, e.g., we buy corn-based biodegradable poop bags that are sized for the purpose. The main point I was trying to make was that people like me Bob Dunning say that everyone uses the bags again and then recycles them. I don't think that's true, and the fact that there were so many blowing around is evidence that people aren't reusing/recycling. —CovertProfessor

2012-03-02 07:43:15 I know what you mean. —CovertProfessor

2012-03-02 16:15:16 Agreed! —ScottMeehleib

2012-03-02 18:26:51 Yes. And this seemed to be screaming for it. Or maybe that's just those pesky noises in my head again. —CovertProfessor

2012-03-04 22:42:32 Good to know. I was skimming through the website to see what they offer and it will be a great tool to use. —SimonFung

2012-03-07 09:01:39 this. —EdWins

2012-03-11 19:32:53 No problem. Pretty sure it's not helping though. —MeggoWaffle

2012-03-15 15:22:33 Hey Jabs-"ceebs" and "PrettyPlease" have been confirmed (by the user themselves) as being the same person. Can you delete ceebs please? —Users/PeterBoulay

2012-03-15 17:59:24 Tampa, FL. My parents live here; I'm visiting them and my sister for spring break —Takenadvantageoftenant

2012-03-15 18:12:28 St. Pete is nice - I'm actually going there on Sunday. I grew up here, went to college in Orlando and then back to Tampa, and lived in Gainesville for awhile before moving out west. I have yet to experience Rocky Horror - always wanted to. —Takenadvantageoftenant

2012-03-15 18:16:43 Jabs...we are trying to communicate on the /talk page—sritern continues to insult people and ignore everyone else. Eventually enough is enough. Calling us drama junkies really isn't necessary. —Users/PeterBoulay

2012-03-15 19:01:23 I must be taking crazy pills! Sometimes people become enmeshed in discussions and lose the ability to think from an outside or logical perspective, so I thought I'd step in as an unentangled voice of reason. I see your point about the difficulty in getting someone to admit wrongdoing. Good call on locking the page; it was getting ridiculous. Borderline "rediculous." —LoriOrf

2012-03-17 21:37:16 Yep... both points are important. —CovertProfessor

2012-03-20 18:16:11 Yeah Tom advised me several hours ago—it's all good —Users/PeterBoulay

2012-03-20 18:34:10 I'm curious to know what you find out... please keep me in the loop. —CovertProfessor

2012-03-22 10:49:21 Editing is a multi-person task, bean or no. I know that only too well. —CovertProfessor

2012-03-22 15:37:13 hello, there is an emotionally disturbed person who has posted information about and pictures of tom on the sacwiki and is continuing to try to post odd stuff on daviswiki. I thought you might be able to do something about it since you seem to have more clout than most. Thanks. —LoriOrf

2012-03-22 18:02:03 Quoting you: "Is there a worse person to target with libel than an attorney who has free time?" I think the answer is.....DUH (facepalm) —Users/PeterBoulay

2012-03-22 22:16:47 Thanks. What you can't tell from the mountain pic is what a lazy SOB he is most of the time, which of course he learned from me. —MikeyCrews

2012-03-23 17:57:21 GAHHHHH! User/JohnGalt needs to be banned. Leaving more trash about TG. Would do myslef if I could —jsbmeb

2012-03-23 19:08:21 This is getting pretty insane now, so I'm leaving it up to those with admin access. —jsbmeb

2012-03-24 23:30:21 Thanks! —Angel.York

2012-03-27 12:06:58 FelixWankel has repeatedly vandalized Moller International's page-can you nuke them please? TG and I called for it last week and he called for it ages ago —Users/PeterBoulay

2012-03-29 16:39:29 Looks like the ManagerSilverstone account was not actually disabled? —CovertProfessor

2012-03-29 16:52:25 Oh, I didn't notice that — sorry, thanks, got it. —CovertProfessor

2012-03-29 17:01:12 What is this "reading" thing of which you speak, and is it required for editing the wiki? —CovertProfessor

2012-03-29 17:11:06 You are free to edit the page, just like anybody else in the community. It's only that specific account name that is causing problems (for several reasons). Go ahead and create a personal account, and feel free to use your first name or however you introduce yourself to members of the public that walk in your office... part of the problem is lack of accountability. Can you imagine if things were being done around your complex and everybody was sharing the same name "Employee"? "Who left the office unlocked?" "Oh, that was employee". "Which one?" "Just employee". You'd never have a clear idea who was doing what. That's just one of the several issues with organizational names. —Evan 'JabberWokky' Edwards, jw.dw@timewarp.org

well said —StevenDaubert

2012-03-29 17:22:16 Easy for you to say. —CovertProfessor

2012-04-02 15:00:48 Oh well... maybe next year if we have new software... —CovertProfessor

2012-04-04 13:18:13 I love Rory. —EdWins

2012-04-05 09:45:18 I need help with my business page again! I uploaded some photos of my new location but they are HUGE and I could not figure out how to get them on my page and make them smaller? Any help would be much appreciated! The page is girlgonegreen skincare. Thanks so much for your time.

—jwendt

2012-04-05 14:38:35 Yeah. It's been used that way a lot lately, with the page featuring an afterthought at best. Perhaps we should really take up your dental questions suggestion in order to remind people what the featured page is really supposed to be. —CovertProfessor

2012-04-08 09:35:56 Saw this on TweetsofOld: This morning a freight car at Davisville was broken open and a quantity of wine, sardines, and shoes was stolen. CA1900

—EdWins

2012-04-19 11:26:39 Sure, and I was happy to see JT finish what I started. I keep trying to think of ways to make the purpose of the FP clearer, as well as guidelines for editing it... maybe more hidden comments on the page itself? —CovertProfessor

2012-04-23 21:08:06 Sure. Sometimes I find that oddly cathartic. —CovertProfessor

2012-04-26 08:05:27 I know! Thus my snarky withdrawn comment on their page and my remark about deja vu. I find it extremely puzzling. Are they some sort of cult? —CovertProfessor

2012-04-26 19:11:25 Our first motto: "Look for the barn at the east end of Fifth Street!" We had to modify that after a few years... —DonShor

2012-04-29 16:04:43 So as you may have noticed, (cp and I noticed)there have been several comments posted to the davis dirt page in the last couple days. Many of the users' ip addresses are very similar, and a couple are the exact same. Also, that page is the only page that most of the users have commented on. I wasn't really sure what to do about it, but it seems super shady. I thought I'd bring it to a more experienced editor's attention rather than starting a witch hunt and not really knowing protocol. I might just be paranoid, but it seems shady and potentially sockpuppet-like. Have a lovely day :) —LoriOrf

2012-05-01 15:59:01 Yeah, it can be a bit disheartening that some business are so stubborn or uncaring. The way I understand it, there is no general inspection mechanism for enforcing the ADA, unlike health inspections and general building codes inspections. Some of the owners I've encountered have been very dismissive because they apparently did a bit of research and honestly believe that they are ADA compliant. So if you try to point out where they made an error or missed something, they'll often get very defensive and adopt a "well, I did the best I can so sue me if you disagree" sort of attitude. —ScottMeehleib

2012-05-01 16:01:51 I found this source to be quite helpful and interesting when considering these issues. http://www.facilitiesnet.com/ada/article/Avoiding-ADA-Lawsuits--10433# —ScottMeehleib

2012-05-09 11:37:58 I just like to fuel your conspiracy theory. —CovertProfessor

2012-05-10 15:35:43 Still, he must have been under a rock to have missed the UCD pepper spraying! —CovertProfessor

2012-05-10 18:25:08 Hey, JW (I'm posting the same on CovertProfessor's page). I just reviewed my intern’s recent edits, and saw your comments. I’ve spoken to him directly about his poor judgment in choosing a username.

While acknowledging that the username was inappropriate and mean, I hope that actions speak louder than words. I’m personally a huge supporter of Daviswiki – hell, I contributed $100 to the Localwiki campaign – and I’ve made it a point to put a lot of our info on Daviswiki, even when it doesn’t benefit our organization. A lot of organizations wouldn’t even bother to create a list of places you could use their product – they’d just have that on their website. And the easy thing for us to do would just be to make a plain text list on our page, but we’ve created about 15 of the businesses’ pages, and intend to create more. Sure, 15 is a small number, and it’s not as if we did a lot of journalism on those pages. I’m not trying to claim any medals. But I hope it shows a lot more commitment to the wiki than most businesses or individuals would make.

Also, may I note that one of our other interns used the username “davisrox”? That’s positive, right? (I’m being lighthearted, in case you can’t read the tone ). By the way, I’ve created instructions for all future team members to use their actual names.

I can’t read your tone, by the way – I’m not sure how serious you are when you’re talking about this username creating an impression about the entire organization. I understand that the people who represent an organization inevitably contribute to the organization’s perception, but as I said, I hope you can look past the words to the actions.

And if there are other things that I’ve missed that you think are problematic, or if things come up in the future…you know that you could always drop me a line? A quick “Hey, your intern’s username is kind of jerky” would be fine. One of the things I really like about the wiki is how much editors engage each other in conversation. One of the things that makes that username mean is that it’s an anonymous, unproductive criticism of Daviswiki, without trying to engage in any meaningful conversation. I’m trying to represent the opposite by engaging, with this post, and if you do the same and drop me a line in the future, it will make it easier for me to remedy anything that comes up.

—NicholasBarry —NicholasBarry

2012-05-10 19:26:16 Hey JabberWokky, I am the intern who made the recent changes with the nasty username. I made that username a while ago when the front page was very different and almost illegible (might have been an April fool's joke) and I was not aware I was making the edits under that same username. I just wanted to let you know that the attitude conveyed by my former username doesn't represent my own attitude. Furthermore, it shouldn't be taken to represent Davis Dollars' attitude toward Daviswiki. —EdRojas

2012-05-13 22:45:38 Hi Evan, my name is Chris. I own the Pilates Bodywork business. I am changing the name slightly to "Pilates For Bodies". I was wondering if there was anyway I could change the name on Wiki without creating a new page. It is really all the same. Just a little catchier form of the name. If you can help, thanks. Sincerely, Chris —crpike

2012-05-15 20:19:02 I should have a copy of said 10x glossy attack advert —StevenDaubert

2012-05-15 20:26:07 I do have a copy of said glossy mailer. Also have you heard anything from our affable new future wiki gnome? —StevenDaubert

2012-05-15 22:03:49 No, I don't think so. I have it in my possession, but I couldn't bring myself to spread it further. Not that everyone in Davis hasn't seen it already. If someone else puts it up, of course I won't object. —CovertProfessor

2012-05-15 22:29:21 Again, I don't object to it being up — it is factual, it is part of what is going on now, and everyone in Davis who looks at their mail has seen it. I just don't want to be the one spreading it. —CovertProfessor

2012-05-16 18:47:32 I like your last edit on the ChamberPAC page. —DougWalter

2012-05-17 00:21:59 They just refilled the irrigation canal in my backyard in west Davis and it sounds like we went from having zero to a million frogs in the course of a day. They're a crazy species. According to the internet they go from mating to being tadpoles in 7-21 days and then are full fledged frogs 2-3 months later. What else is wild is that they apparently have both a homing and timing instinct in that they return to their place of birth to mate and somehow they have an idea on when they'll be water there. We hadn't see a frog in the whole year we've been living here and then in the three days prior to when they filled the canal our cats caught (and we released) two of them. —MikeyCrews

2012-05-20 16:04:11 Cool. Yeah, I noticed that the Davis Psychic page hadn't been edited in a long time, so I figured I'd add some info from the Aggie article I came across. —ScottMeehleib

2012-05-21 18:42:58 I know you withdrew your analogy, but I can't help but note that the page was about the UCDPD, the Chancellor, the protesters, and others, not strictly about the UCDPD. —CovertProfessor

2012-05-21 19:33:51 Sometimes they work, but often they are dicey. I do understand the point you are trying to make, and if I'd seen more than promotional fluff, I might agree with you. —CovertProfessor

I think there may be a problem with the comment function. I am getting the error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/srv/sycamore_base/Sycamore/request.py", line 908, in run
    handler = wikiaction.getHandler(action)
  File "/srv/sycamore_base/Sycamore/wikiaction.py", line 1378, in getHandler
    return wikiutil.importPlugin("action", action, identifier)
  File "/srv/sycamore_base/Sycamore/wikiutil.py", line 932, in importPlugin
    result = pysupport.importName("Sycamore." + kind + "." + name, function)
  File "/srv/sycamore_base/Sycamore/util/pysupport.py", line 44, in importName
    module = __import__(modulename, globals(), {}, [name])
  File "/srv/sycamore_base/Sycamore/action/comments.py", line 81
    if request.config.wiki_name == 'santacruz':

^
IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level

Ah, editing live code... always dicey. Thanks for taking care of it! —cp

2012-05-24 09:47:42 Thanks! :) —DavidBenjamin

2012-05-25 14:50:04 What you don't realize is that chickens have been plotting a coup since early 2012. —MikeyCrews

2012-05-26 14:52:39 that was indeed quite the edit. I almost feel that way about Monticello —StevenDaubert

2012-05-26 19:08:05 Were you in downtown Davis today or was I just hallucinating? —ScottMeehleib

2012-05-29 23:07:08 Also posted on CP's page: I have no problem with what either of you did on that page. Kemble Pope's assertion was factually incorrect, and he hasn't acknowledged that. So I felt that should be corrected publicly. All he has to do is come back, look at the edit history, and see that he made an erroneous assumption. I doubt that he will. —DonShor

2012-06-04 09:00:59 Absolutely. It's always important to consider the other side(s). —CovertProfessor

2012-06-04 21:19:33 Jabber Wokky, i dont know why you allow thses nonsense to happen in wiki, it's like children's play ground.you guys accomodates it. Remember, false accusation is slandering and liable which is against law. i haven't done you guys any thing. —andrewnnodim

2012-06-05 17:35:00 Who was your last response on the legal threats page aimed at? The discussion was about a proposed policy, not what has actually been done — at least, that is what I was discussing. —CovertProfessor

2012-06-05 17:45:32 I'm sorry — that sounds awful. I'd fill you in on the gist of the page, but maybe it's better to be left for another time. Hope the rest of your day and your week go better. —CovertProfessor

2012-06-06 01:02:27 Hey Jabber, hope life gets easier. Tough times are indeed tough. Hugs all around. —Davidlm

2012-06-06 14:56:20 I think Jeff's talking about the original proposal for dealing with legal threats - immediate memory-holing and a temp ban. —TomGarberson

2012-06-06 15:59:42 I'm confused why you didn't let Wes' revert stand on the 24/7 cab page... —ScottMeehleib

2012-06-06 16:19:03 Not surprised. I decided not to wade into this one ;) —Davidlm

2012-06-14 14:34:07 Can you confirm that the account LWolk was deleted? —CovertProfessor

2012-06-14 15:19:25 Ok, thanks. No rush. —CovertProfessor

2012-06-14 16:02:21 An Edit. —DisabledAccount

2012-06-15 13:22:22 Yeah, I'm not going to push it, its GKs wiki too. Just wanted to make the suggestion. —jefftolentino

2012-06-25 14:11:02 is it sad that I find the fact that runaway italics italicize the

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2012-07-03 00:52:49 not so strange when you consider the premium outlets are located in Vacaville... —StevenDaubert

2012-07-11 16:59:22 I knew they had more locations, didn't know they'd won out on sales. Good for them. I like Subway a lot. Mostly because I like lots of veggies on my sammiches, and that's where they shine. —TomGarberson

2012-07-13 12:20:32 Interesting coincidence. Actually, I almost didn't edit the page as well, for the same reason you mentioned. Kinda feel like the Enterprise dropped the ball on this one by not reporting the details regarding what is probably just another trial date reschedule, but maybe I'm just overly hung on details. —ScottMeehleib

2012-08-02 14:40:45 Oh my! I'm not sure I could look at Rory in the same way after that! —CovertProfessor

2012-08-28 16:31:29 On Osterio Fasulo, can you at least take the lies out of Version 212? There is no entree at $55. Highest is $35. I cleaned up that stuff. —ScottLay

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