Users/JabberWokky

—— Somewhat out of date and out of state——

An older photo. It's a longer, grayer beard nowadays.

Evan Edwards, well known as JabberWokky (I get regular postal mail addressed to JabberWokky, I'm registered to vote with the ID JabberWokky, and my wife calls me Wokky). I can be identified thusly: A rather large fellow of Scot-Irish ancestry. Long red-brown hair (only visibly red in good sunlight), a very full beard. I always wear black jeans and either black sweaters (winter) or Hawaiian shirts (summer). Often you can see a bronze Hand of Eris pendant around my neck. In winter (and sometimes in summer), I wear a large black trench coat. My laptop, frank, is a Dell Inspiron 9300 and very tied to my home network. I'm friendly, meaning I only bite if you're cute and ask nicely. One easy identifier is my black hat, technically an outback hat, which is somewhat like a large fedora. It sometimes has my band of pinbacks on it.

Amazing Value! Wiki Classics Proposal for a Radical Change KDE and the Wiki Where to Hide a Dead Body on the Wiki Random Wiki Nonsense Ten Random Links Five Random People Non Random Cool Entries Deleted Talk Pages one minute of downtime Wiki Bulldada = Davis as an Image Davis Wiki as an Image (Not so) FAQs Wikispotting Neat WikiSpot Wikis Stuff to work on Stuff for You =

Ah, Love! could thou and I with Fate conspire


To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire!


Would not we shatter it to bits — and then


Re-mould it nearer to the Heart's Desire!

— Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyám, (trans: Edward Fitzgerald)

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Note that Sarah is in the Doctorate program at Penn State, and so I'm in exile from Davis. We next move at the end of August 2010. At that point, she's got a short stint somewhere as a post-doc, and then the permanent faculty position search starts. Between family and friends, we've been making back to visit every two years. Why am I so involved in the Wiki? Davis was our home, and we're hoping for it to be again. Sarah will be a professor of chemistry, we like small university towns and we already know we love Davis. In the meantime, if you manage to find yourself in State College, Pennsylvania, drop a line and we'll show you around. If you are looking to become a grad student here (or move here for any other reason), contact us with any questions you might have. Penn State is much larger than UC Davis, but it is an ag school, and you'll see similar traits but with greater resources (important for grad students) and with an East Coast flavor to the population (which is worth living among to get a feel for different viewpoints).

If you know of a good research University that has a chemistry program and is in a town similar in tenor and tone to Davis, let us know. We're looking now (we started our "where will we live the rest of our lives until Sarah is emeritus, and I'm playing Santa Claus at the Farmer's Market" quest on June 2009). Other than Davis, Chapel Hill and Berkeley are in the mix.

Alternate universe version. Note the lack of beard, indicating this is the 'Good Universe' JabberWokky. Likely a sockpuppet for David Poole, like most other users on the wiki. Of course, it is also documented fact that he is Jason Aller, so perhaps Jason is also a sockpuppet. Regardless, he prefers, being a Henson fan, to be referred to as a "sockmuppet". He is in full favor of, and thinks it would be "spiffy keen" to see some DavisWiki fanfic. His attention to detail is appreciated, as the wiki keeps informing him.

A note about the name: Yes, people call me Jabber, Wokky and JabberWokky in real life (including my SO, who tends to use the more popular "Wokky"). Yes, it started life as a reference before the web existed, and it started out intentionally misspelled. I camelCap it for ease of use. I get magazines sent to "Wokky, Jabber", and have gotten credit card offers to Mr. Jabber Wokky. Yes, people call me Evan as well. Note that as long as this account has existed, the redirect EvanEdwards has existed. In 2006 and 2008, I officially voted using it, having registered as a voter using the name. Cheap Thrills is more than a Big Brother album. Woo.

Yes, he can lose his patience on and with the wiki. ;-P

Minor interesting facts:

• Is in the process (2008-06) of registering as a fancy mouse breeder for lineage registration.
  

• Last Macintosh was a II LC. Last used Windows in 1998.
  

• His first computer was in the days when building your own meant a bit more than simply ordering parts.
  

• Used to host a science fiction radio show, is perpetually thinking about starting again.
  

• Drinks iced coffee, having discovered that it is far more likely to be decent than tea. Prefers Kona.
  

• Has been looking for a good barbeque place ever since he moved to California.
  

• Has discovered waiters give him a blank look when asked "what kind of barbeque is it?"
  

• His favorite is Carolina style, but a good Georgian, South Carolina or St. Louis is good too. Texas BBQ is different.
  

• Has lots of interesting sites, a few servers, and five meese in a huge custom built mouse cage.
  

• Probably scored lower on the purity test than you.
  

• Knows that when somebody asks you if you are a god, you say "yes".
  

• Is likely not the political faction you think he is.
  

• Filks, but only occasionally in public.
  

• Knows about that Society thing with the people in armor who go camping, but again, not locally ("Vivat Trimaris!")
  

• Is in Trekkies II, but is much more happy about the pretty good scene with his SO in an Orion Slave costume that he made (and she so excellently filled out).
  

• Enjoys building stage props and furniture.
  

• Owns an original shooting script, Susan Sarandon's audition photos and the collectable card proof sheet for the Rocky Horror Picture Show. His office is full of Rocky collectables.
  

• Can be considered goth for values of goth that include Edward Gorey, Poppy Z., Souxie and gargoyles.
  

• Can also be considered goth for values of goth that include Ostro and Visi. "Ask me about my sack!"
  

• Is not generally considered goth.
  

• Has a near legendary stash of "stuff" in Pennsylvania, including:
  

• Full size MAME cabinet capable of taking four JAMMA boards (currently ripped apart again; it's being transformed into the "Rocky Horror Arcade Show")
  

• More books and movies than you can shake a stick at - or fit in a 10' truck.
  

• Original RHPS shooting script, as used on set, original Columbia doll used in the 10th Anniversary poster, original photos used to audition Susan Sarandon (yes, a wiki is forthcoming)
  

• Everything White Wolf put out for the World of Darkness up until 3rd edition started coming out.
  

• SubGenius devival gear.
  

• Knows many many languages of a code type, and has written a mail editor in Intercal, and won obsfucated C contests. Prefers PHP as an interpreted language and likes Python. Feels very much at home in C (and is suspicious of those Bjarne blasted concoctions that came after). Likes SPL and Lua.
  

• Likes Guinness, especially since other stouts are so rare.
  

• Has missed two (2) Whole Earth Festivals since he moved.
  

• Has written a few homebrew RPG systems, and likes Marvel, Storyteller, Palladium and many many more. Ranks AD&D in decending order as they have come out (First is 1st, etc). Was ST for a large, full WoD game.
  

• Can make babies cry when he merely opens his violin case.
  

• Enjoys learning to home build homes. Frame houses, wattle and daub and Mike Oehler turn him on.
  

• Can cook. Before Food Network made it trendy to deglaze.
  

• His home network consists of frank (Dell laptop), crim (Toshiba Libretto 110ct), riffraff (4U rackmount), magenta (MythTV install), scott (MAME), betty (Tosiba laptop), ralph (Apple TiBook) and janet (Celeron box in the corner). His work systems are tim-01 to tim-10, ramon, ritz, nell and the less than spectacularly named op03.
  

• Takes it as a personal failure and genuinely feels bad when somebody exits the Wiki in a huff. He feels bad and wonders what went wrong and if there was anything he could have done to make them happier or fix what had made them upset.
  

• Believes being blunt without being needlessly harsh is a tough thing to do, but is ultimately the right thing to do to be fair and open. If you run across a spot on the wiki where the phrase "blunt" is used by him, he agonized over the wording of that edit to keep it a positive and honest presentation of negative things.

...and lastly...

• Misses the hell out of Davis, and hopes to someday return with the woman he pursued (successfully).

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Often plays around with stuff (like the Wiki!) to break it. Then drinks more iced coffee in triumph. THEN fixes it. — tar zxf

• Note that I now often drink iced Cafix as well.

• ¹ This means a picture that does not (unlike the ones posted here):
  

• Look like I'm choking someone.
  

• Occlude my face with a cameraphone.

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Amazing Value!

Now you can purchase your own jabberwokky at amazon.com!

Wiki Classics

Remember...?


• JeromeJohnson
  

• The furor over papasan chairs on the wiki?
  

• Hitler and Nazis becomes a legitimate topic of conversation on the IKEA entry.
  

• Greatest. Edit. Ever. The fact that this just went multigenerational says more about the wiki being a real reflection of the community than anything else ever will. The very real line of human life that we are all stepping through and weaving together is laid clear and real here. Like an overheard comment while watering your lawn, or a chance chat with a neighbor while in line at the bank, this is the fingerprint of human experience — a moment of pure life — caught on the wiki.
  

• Graduate Tutorial Services — one guy posts the story of how he was annoyed during his interview, nothing happens for two weeks, and then a bunch of people start signing up and jumping all over him, mostly with new accounts, all within the span of a few hours. Flashmob a la wiki?
  

• Bistro 33 — A great example of how chaos became a useful entry.
  

• Real Computers — Not understanding the wiki.
  

• When SteveDavison not only tracked down a spammer, he found a webcam in their office!

Proposal for a Radical Change

Here's a new proposal for the home page:

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KDE and the Wiki

Konqueror Web Shortcut for the Wiki Search:

http://daviswiki.org/FrontPage?text_new={@}&action=inlinesearch&button_new.x=0&context=40

Konqueror Web Shortcut for the Wiki:

http://daviswiki.org/{@}

Go to Settings, Configure Konqueror, Web Shortcuts and paste the above line and pick a shortcut. I use dw. Then you can use URLs like dw:JabberWokky to either jump directly to an entry or to search for the term.

Where to Hide a Dead Body on the Wiki

The Wiki provides a rich and cluttered environment ideal for the surreptitious disposal of formerly living entities. These FLEs can be placed in a wide variety of entries including, but not limited to:

• One of AlphaDog's many botany oriented entries
  

• Woven into one of ArlenAbraham's theories about the wiki
  

• Inside the Mystery Picture of the moment
  

• Note that this has nothing to do with Pluto's Mushrooms of the Moment and cannot be considered a claim or attack on any trademarks held by PlutosCorps.
  

• Brought to a Wiki Gathering, preferably set to some Oingo Boingo music.
  

• Dumped in the trunk of TarZxf's dusty "Wiki Dude" diesel Jetta
  

• Somewhere in the Friends Urging Campus Kindness Platform, between the staplers and the countback amendment. No one will ever read something that ridiculously long.

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Ah, but a man's grasp should exceed his reach,


Or what's a heaven for?


— Robert Browning, "Andrea del Sarto"

Random Wiki Nonsense

Ten Random Links

Five Random People

• PaulIvanov
  

• JamesColligan
  

• JoeyChen
  

• GregHirson
  

• TheodoreGould

Non Random Cool Entries

• European White Birch
  

• I Hate Davis — in which the "campus landscapers" are called in utter and delicious ironic humor, the gender specific "sexist bastards".

JabberWokky's Statistics

Edits	Pages Created	Files Contributed	First Edit Date	Last Edit	Last Page Edited
13127	793	560	2004-12-07 12:55:08	2010-02-06 13:01:16	Users/DagonJones

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Someone who keeps aloof from suffering
is not a lover. I choose your love
above all else. As for wealth
if that comes, or goes, so be it.
Wealth and love inhabit separate worlds.

But as long as you live here inside me,
I cannot say that I'm suffering.

— Hakim Abul-Majd Majdūd ibn Ādam Sanā'ī, trans. Coleman Barks

Deleted Talk Pages

On 8.24.05 I cleaned out some Talk pages for entries that had become stable. Since the format for Talk pages has changed, here are the "missing entries":

• Talk:Traditions
  

• Talk:Ben & Jerry's
  

• Talk:Ari Kalfayan
  

• Talk:Gender and Sexuality Commission
  

• Talk:Davis Players Society.
  

Brent pointed out Talk:Cost Plus World Market and Wiki Court.

I left a few that were newish or active.

Deleted by ES on 2005-12-5

• Zachary's Pizza/Talk

one minute of downtime

Describe that minute of downtime here.

it just occurred, and it was *terrible*

I wanted the wiki now, but I had to wait

sometimes i have to rip the band-aid off really quickly. it hurts, but it's for your own good. —PhilipNeustrom

The excitement was hard to take! What would the new thing be? Would it be award-winning?? —CovertProfessor

Wiki Bulldada

Did you know Mike and Philip's ancestors worked together as innovators?

Jason uses high technology while maintaining his simian roots. Or branches, as the case may be.

Don't know what bulldada is? Ask Google.

Davis as an Image

Davis Wiki as an Image

(Not so) FAQs

• Why do you sometimes make lots of tiny edits on a single entry, seconds apart?
  

• When I'm doing massive reformatting or rewrites about something I'm confident about, I'll make them in one big chunk. When I'm editing a controversial entry or something with finely grained points, I will make them sequentially as small edits, adding a comment about each. That allows somebody to go back through each edit individually. It makes it harder to hide an minor edit inside a major edit... and if it's controversial or has many specific facets, it should be as open and fully disclosed as possible. Basically, I'm allowing people to dispute a specific part of the edit without feeling like they have to revert all the parts of the edit. You can see each specific edit laid out, commented upon, in the history. I'll also add comments for the reason behind the edit, strike out text and then follow it with an edit that deletes the comment and stuck out text. Atomic editing.
  

(and because I'm trying to increase my edit count —bl)


(hey, if I wanted that, I'd do it every time rather than once every several months. Besides, I have little problem making a half dozen edits on different entries every morning, and that satisfies my "I've done something for the wiki" itch. —JabberWokky)

• It's midnight and you haven't changed the wiki logo back from (or to) the holiday logo.
  

• Yup. Look for them to be changed between 3am and 4am. Note that they might show up longer on your computer until you refresh.

• How do you follow all the changes? Even on other wikis?
  

• Wiki Spot has a ton of really nice tools. Figuring out how to use them is easy, and they tend to adapt well. I hit the Interwiki Recent Changes at least once a day. If I am spinning through them just checking, I can usually handle a whole days worth of changes across Wiki Spot in about 45 minutes. Usually I zip through at the beginning and end of the day and then hit the RC randomly throughout the work day. When I'm really busy, the wiki drops out of my life... I like it and all, but family and work come first. Usually it can get squeezed in. I open each change in a new tab (I use Konqueror, coming soon to Mac and Windows), usually in blocks of about a dozen, and then read through them all. I bookmark ones that need heavy work (phone calls, research, etc) for when I have time.

• Why do you welcome people to the wiki?
  

• I try to do it for people's first edits. That way they feel there is somebody on the other end who noticed and appreciated their contribution. This has absolutely nothing to do with the wiki; if somebody shows up at any of the hobby or volunteer groups I'm involved in, I walk up to the new people, shake their hands and welcome them to the group. Everybody who steps into a new group of people does so with some amount of trepidation and uncertainty, and it's just the polite thing to do to welcome them. I encourage everybody active on the wiki to do the same: encouraging people to use the wiki should not end when they sign up.

• Why do you say entry sometimes and page other times?
  

• It's actually logical, believe it or not. It's also subtle enough so it doesn't matter at all, but for those following along with the home game, here's the terminology I use: The entry is the actual part of the wiki the editors edit. You edit an entry, which is the content of the box when you're editing, and the content when you save it. The page is the entry plus the rest of the visible items: the tabs, the wiki logo, the Copyrights and Donate links at the bottom of the page and your account information in the upper right hand corner of the page. On the other hand, in the upper right hand corner of the entry there might be a photo of a puppy. It really doesn't matter much in communication, but I've found that defining precise terms is a handy way to help frame your thoughts.

• Why do you give people your phone number (or email)?
  

• There are two reasons: first, learning to communicate on the wiki is tricky, and sometimes people assume too much of a new editor, either by assuming that they "get" the wiki, or that they are able to respond. (Every so often I get emails from people who were left messages at their user entry that they clearly did not get). The second reason is that there are people who are just poor communicators in a written forum, especially when it comes to tone, something that tends to get worse when everybody starts getting frustrated. Being able to hear a person's emotional affect is quite important to actual communication. I will tell you that after years of leaving my number all over the place, I have never gotten anything but constructive calls from people who were either upbeat or were frustrated and scared, but quite grateful for my reaching out to them and honestly looking for help. I've placed a couple calls to some angry people, but all my inbound calls have been positive in nature. I have a feeling that if somebody actually wants real resolution and answers, they will call, and if they are just angry jackasses playing a game, they don't want to escalate it past the internet — where they feel powerful — into the real world full of actual people. The first thing I always explain is that I am a volunteer editor, just like they are, and I have no special control over content, just lots of experience with what tends to work and what doesn't. If you're in a situation where you can receive calls and talk for a few minutes with somebody, you can do the same thing, too. We're all volunteers here.

• I always try to use a tone and word usage appropriate to the person I'm writing to. It's neither pandering nor being condescending... I try to communicate as best I can. It's the same thing as using different terms at a formal setting (office, funeral) versus a casual setting (picnic, orgy). People view the wiki in radically different ways and have wildly varying background and perceptions of the written word. To some, it's a casual, lighthearted "who cares" setting, while others see it as a cooperative project no different than a barn-raising, everybody working as teammates.

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Wikispotting

Davis Wiki and Wiki Spot on the internet, grassroots style:

• A Yelp review noting that "Reviewing anything in Davis is basicly redundent since nearly everything in or near Davis is listed in the comprehensive Davis Wiki".

Neat WikiSpot Wikis

• splitter — Niche work.

Stuff to work on

• Davis Visitor's Guide
  

• NacSki

Stuff for You

• But soft, what shirt on yonder bicyclist sits? — Bike? Like the Bard? Ta da!
  

• May this never happen here.
  

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Comments:

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• For old comments, visit the archive

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2009-11-03 11:22:08   What's your Kibo number? —CovertProfessor

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2009-11-03 15:37:26   Sure, I'm glad to help. —NickSchmalenberger

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2009-11-06 07:33:46   That guy spammed with 335 edits, but not to me :( I'm not interesting enough?! —EdWins

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2009-11-06 08:11:23   I do wonder why spammers are such bad programmers. Do they think that everyone's (names) should be surrounded by parentheses? —IDoNotExist

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2009-11-06 08:19:47   Ugh. Thanks for cleaning up that mess. —CovertProfessor

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2009-11-06 10:33:54   Thanks, for cleaning up the spam. I saw a long list of edits and wonder what was going on. —SimonFung

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2009-11-06 11:03:34   Thanks for cleaning up my page. I hadn't checked it in awhile. —BrookeB

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2009-11-06 22:12:55   Thanks for the revert. Although Jessica did sound convincing :P —BrandonBarrette

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2009-11-07 18:19:14   Eh, not really — I've just been paying attention to recent events and wanted the wiki to reflect what had happened a little better. But it's an excellent idea to have a "growth" page — obviously, an important issue here in the past and future, and I'll think about whether there are links to add. —CovertProfessor

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2009-11-07 19:56:43   Yeah, you said "judicial action," so I figured this was fair game. I also figured that any peripheral development in Davis would be controversial. :-) —CovertProfessor

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2009-11-07 20:05:08   Gotta go now, but found all kinds of good stuff here and here. —CovertProfessor

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2009-11-07 21:17:53   I redirected the url http://www.maceranch.com, which I own, to http://daviswiki.org/Mace_Ranch. I presume it won't be a problem. —JimStewart

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2009-11-08 12:10:44   thanks for despammage! looks like lots of that going round. —IrinaChakraborty

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2009-11-08 21:50:56   Thank you for fighting the good fight. —EdHenn

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2009-11-09 11:23:46   Lol, thanks for catching that on Davis Enterprise. —NickSchmalenberger

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2009-11-09 19:25:11   Gasp! My near and dear friend, you've erased her comment! How rude! ...but thank you, keep up the good work. —MichelleAccurso

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2009-11-10 17:24:08   you're good. —MichelleAccurso

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2009-11-10 18:14:46   Good quotes from you in the DE article. Too bad they couldn't mention the URL. —CovertProfessor

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2009-11-10 20:10:26   Hey you seem to be an important man in DavisWiki (based upon my Bebearded Measurement Standard) and I was wondering if its okay to list myself as on the Ryan Slate in the Fall 2009 ASUCD Candidate/Election page? I don't like being in a pile of Indis —GreatRyan

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2009-11-11 10:07:09   Thanks for cleaning up the spam on my page, Jb. I really appreciate all you do here! Hope things are going well in PA. I wonder if sometime (when you have a minute—hah!) you could help me reorganize/clean up the front page on my "Christian Music Central" http://christianmusiccentral.wikispot.org/. My goal is for it to be a place where Christian music fans can link to their favorite songs, esp on YouTube. At this point it's not very user friendly. If you have any ideas I'd sure appreciate it! —RichLindvall

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2009-11-12 17:51:43   Hehehe, thank you. So do you have IPv6 yet? —NickSchmalenberger

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2009-11-16 14:38:40   Hi Mr. Edwards, I am new to this community project and I have now just read your multiple offers to help. I saw a comment about, "Please clean my basement. Thank you. ;)" in response to my first comment and that really deterred me from this whole project with the harsh words. I can see how my request may have been odd and I apologize if it was too demanding. The intention was never that. I really appreciate your follow up, volunteering and effort as I am a beginner and have limited capabilities. The new manager is Professional Home Builders as of March 2009. If it is not too much trouble, I thank you for your offer to assist in archiving. —sritern

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2009-11-18 20:18:34   Thanks for cleaning up my page! —ChristineLim

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2009-11-25 08:01:17   I think Scott was asking what are the hours for Subway downtown. I'll try to find out if I remember. —NickSchmalenberger

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2009-11-28 14:36:50   Am I the only one getting really horrible response times from the wikiserver? —IDoNotExist

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2009-12-01 13:59:48   You editors do good work! http://theaggie.org/article/2009/11/18/davis-wiki-declared-worlds-best-local-wiki

:) —GreatRyan

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2009-12-03 17:48:04   Why aren't you editing? We like what you do! —IDoNotExist

• Agreed! Your voice and edits are very much needed around here. And we've all gotten a bit of negative feedback — that's par for the course as editors disagree, right? —CovertProfessor
  

• Thanks for the support. There was a person who was quite thoughtfully negative about the work of active editors (and has been for quite awhile), and so I've been thinking "how will this change be perceived" rather than "how can I make this entry better" when I click edit, and that's not a good mindset to contribute with. I'm not worried about it; I'm not swearing off the wiki or anything. I'm just taking it slow for a bit. -jw
  

• Well, we all need our occasional slow periods. But remember that not everyone may have agreed with the criticism you received. —cp
  

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2009-12-03 22:46:42   Has the ban on Brian been lifted? —IDoNotExist

• And if so, did it come with conditions? I for one really need to see him editing pages other than the page for his company. I think I'll have to go away from the wiki for awhile myself if he starts obsessively fiddling, fiddling, fiddling with that page and the general computer repair page again. —CovertProfessor
  

• That's pretty much up to the community and what it will tolerate. Yes, his account is off the ban list. I'm loathe (but not unwilling) to enforce a permanent ban on a member of the Davis community who seems to not be malicious or willfully ignorant and who has not prompted a clear and active community consensus for a permanent ban. An increasing length of time to temporary bans will admittedly turn into a de facto permanent ban. As a side note, I also removed three CA Comcast IPs from the block list. -jw
  

• I agree that he's shown little sign of maliciousness. Whether he is willfully ignorant... well, we shall see. —cp
  

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2009-12-04 16:15:32   Thanks for removing the spam on my user page from 11/6. I don't visit DWiki that much anymore. —TusharRawat

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2009-12-05 02:30:16   First get treated, then edit the wiki. You can't revert yourself. Hope you feel better. —IDoNotExist

• Thanks. It was a quick edit on the way out the door as I was standing there while Sarah collected a few things. I was trying to keep things lighthearted while I was in pain. I just walked back in the door, having had a CAT scan and an IV with morphine and some other pain med. Turns out that, yes, it was a kidney stone, and I'll be fine. I also had an infection, so I've got some minor followup scheduled. It's been an utterly amazingly painful couple of hours, and it's something I'll never wish on anybody else. I also now seriously respect how well pain medication works (and how wonderful my wife is). In short: Kidney stones BAD. -jw
  

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2009-12-13 18:12:01   Thanks. On the Solo Dining link being removed, I had assumed it had just gotten removed during the revert from the other spam posts, but thanks for the how-to on checking the changelog. I figured I should re-add it to the main page so hopefully more people will see it in the long-term and contribute to it, but I understand where you guys are coming from. If it gets reverted out, that's fine. Cheers! —H4rry

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2009-12-22 17:36:12   contain yourself —StevenDaubert

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2009-12-22 17:54:04   contain yourself —StevenDaubert

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2009-12-31 09:33:57   I think we've seen baba car spam before. Definitely stuff about "car hire" and such. —WilliamLewis

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2010-01-01 23:58:01   what do you think of the morning glory spillway page? Call it morbid curiosity...

—StevenDaubert

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2010-01-02 22:04:17   I think it's a neat page that a bunch of people came together to make (all the content) and it's an interesting article to point out to print / old media for an nice example of what the wiki can do

or not —StevenDaubert

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2010-01-07 21:59:40   Thanks. I'm trying. Not quite there yet, it seems. :-) —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-10 13:18:02   Why link to frozen yogurt on the businesses that sell ice cream, rather than ice cream? —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-10 17:45:48   Thank you! It just occurred to me that there is also gelato. Do you think we need a frozen desserts page, or is that overkill? I did create a desserts page awhile back, but that is pretty bare bones, so maybe frozen desserts is overkill. —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-10 18:51:59   Right, I created that dessert page. Just forgotten what I'd called it. See, dessert is high priority. As far as I am concerned, it is relevant to all the wiki pages. But I make an effort to control myself. —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-10 19:50:33   Ah, ok. I think I misunderstood *your* original motivation. When I saw you linking to "frozen yogurt" from businesses whose primary product is ice cream, I thought "ah, JW thinks that someone looking for ice cream might also be interested in frozen yogurt." (I see now that that was not your intent — I think I missed the first comment that you left on my page today). So then I thought, well, if you are interested in ice cream, you might also be interested in gelato — or, more generally, given interest any one of them, you might be interested in the other two.

So, now that I've done it, what do you think? It makes sense to me from the point of view of someone looking for something sweet and cold on a hot summer day. —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-10 20:33:51   I think it makes sense the way it is now, my original puzzlement notwithstanding. I think it's clear enough that it's just a general comment about where to find more info on the cold, sweet stuff. Plus it appeals to my sense of fairness that each points to the others. Maybe it's because I wouldn't mind, e.g., someone looking at the Baskin Robbin's page discovering that there is a really cool gelato place just a couple of blocks away. —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-12 08:13:40   Did you mean a new person might prefer to use a comment box on kimthegoodtwin? I don't disagree, but I'm curious. —NickSchmalenberger

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2010-01-13 18:09:15   Perhaps this is from a work computer at that place, but Jacqueline is editing from the same IP as former noted shills/sockpuppets such as this person who had a small convo (of some sort) with Jason, and this account. —EdWins

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2010-01-13 18:18:54   I added a comment to the talk page to make it a bigger discussion within the community - my assumption is that it's likely a shared work computer, as there's actually three other editors with single-purpose accounts coming from it. Guess I thought of sharing with you first since you always do the hard-to-do personal outreach. Cheers! —EdWins

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2010-01-15 16:33:00   Thanks. Given the comments on the other pages, it seems like there is some hope for him/her becoming a more productive wikizen. —CovertProfessor

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JabberWokky publishes and syndicates coupons for a living (using a wiki engine, no less)... and so is staying out of this discussion (at least directly). But he thinks it's interesting to watch, and is curious nobody has raised the fact¹ that the links are more designed to promote a secondary resource (the blog) rather than linking to the actual coupons and therefore connecting the community entry to the resource (coupon) itself. With DLM, there is direct value from interviews and research (a la an Enterprise, SNR or SacBee link). This is more like linking to an LJ post that links to an SNR article.

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2010-01-19 09:30:45   Hello. I have a small favor to ask. I added a small bit of info to the real computers page next to my phone number and I was hoping you could edit it to make the format/asthetics better, as I dont really know how to do that and I figure it would only take you a second. If you go to the real computer page you will see what I mean. —RealComputers

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2010-01-19 10:13:59   Heh — I know the feeling. Enjoy the well-deserved nap. —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-21 11:58:21   I haven't played CCGs since elementary school. I though "premiere" might have some official significance, too, so I googled. The first few hits were all about Drom's. It's apparently their language and their's alone, although I suppose I could have looked harder. —WilliamLewis

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2010-01-21 12:21:10   Hello. I have an ussie that I would like some help with. Recently a customer left a comment/review on the real computer site that states that I deleted a years worth of data from her computer. This is 100% untrue however, I saved all of her files and infact still have them on my computer. She thinks that I deleted her e-mails but in reality she just needed to set-up outlook again. This person is just old and knows basically nothing about computers, and there fore left a completely inaccurate account of what happened to her computer. I do not have this customers phone number or I would call her, explain the situation to her and ask her to remove her comment, and I dont think she is ever going to log in to daviswiki to see that I replied to her commment. I was hoping I could remove it from the page. If she does log in again and decides to re-add it the I will not touch it but I dont think I should have to preserve a customers rant about how little confused they are, which is all this is because the customers documents were backed up in full including her e-mails. basically I am asking because I feel that it would be totally fine to remove because in reality I did save all of her data and can prove it, but I dont want to start and edit war here so please let me know your opinion on this. —RealComputers

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2010-01-21 12:25:23   High maintenance maintenance. Beware... —IDoNotExist

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2010-01-21 12:29:26   I did reply and explain the situation but I still dont think that it needs to remain. It is simply a canse where a customer was confused about what happened to her computer, but I did not delete any of her data and I dont want other customers to think that that might happen. It has never happened. I mean, it is 100% untrue .. I really think I should be able to remove it. Its not to anyone benifit to have to read through the the whole thing because if they do they will just find that a customer was confused and thats all. Its not helpful info to anyone, But I was going to add some info in its place. Some kind of warning to people that if they have me reinstall windows on their computer, that means they will have to reconfigure a lot of stuff even though their files are all saved. Thats really all that could be benificial from this occurance. —RealComputers

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2010-01-21 17:05:03   Yeah, I'm not in a rush re: Wes' editorial on my comment. —rfrazier

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2010-01-21 19:51:03   Hey thanks for the nice note! I love creating pages for people who have been so influential to D-Town. But I am still such a WikiNoob. Like...isn't there a tag for signing and time-stamping my comments? If there is I don't know it. — WillArnold —WillArnold

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2010-01-21 19:52:46   * Nope! it happens automatically! I teach myself good! —WillArnold

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2010-01-25 11:37:27   Don't do to Droms what you won't do to Bizarro World. He became upset that some Wikivolunte3er posted a link to the Droms Page on His, so it's removed and now you continually add a link to his page on Droms. Knock it off. Anyone who visits my personal page will see that I state my experience with both locations, I don't think it needs any links on either of the other pages to express this. —WesOne

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2010-01-25 11:55:52   Apologies for the snark. I admit that I didn't respond well to being called a non-person. Having witnessed the back and forth, I felt that a positive statement of the facts was the best way to go and was shocked to accused of anything for it. 2000 would be a little bit before my time. I've been a certified Magic Judge since 2004. My name is Riki Hayashi and if you dig around on the Internet you will find that have written over 150 articles on the game for various strategy sites. Most recently those articles have pertained to the judging side of things, and in that vein I find that using precise terminology is very important to avoid confusion and to educate players. Given that many Magic players will recognize me as Risky, I chose to emphasize the things like officiating that would resonate with my
I picked up the nickname Risky sometime around 2000-01. I think I started using it as my online name around 2002. Many Magic players who I've gotten to know first through the Internet call me Risky. I'm looking forward to contributing more to this wiki because I've been in this town for 20 years now and unless something dramatic happens, I'll be here for the foreseeable future. —Risky

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2010-01-25 20:41:58   Brent is uploading pictures he should have uploaded years ago. —BrentLaabs

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2010-01-25 23:28:59   London's Fish and Chips was London's Fish and Chips when I went by it on Wednesday night. Mmmm photographic evidence is necessary at this point. (And I'll add it if nobody beats me to it) —WilliamLewis

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2010-01-26 14:15:02   Worst. Swingers. Ever. —rfrazier

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2010-01-26 14:57:09   I'm having all sorts of errors trying to save changes and on quick replies today. I assumed it was something my browser (chrome) was doing wrong. —EdWins

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2010-01-26 15:31:26   I'm going to see if I can find the info I saved from back during the Target campaign. I know the proponents made a big deal out of the LEED certification, and we didn't think that Silver was really that much to brag about. But I want actual data. I agree it would be a useful topic! —DonShor

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2010-01-26 15:31:51   I will find out his exact retire date. I'm not sure as to when the transition happened or as to how interim the new chair is. —CarlosBarahona

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2010-01-26 17:49:13   Can't face Recent Changes right now... Gnome strength fading... —JasonAller

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2010-01-27 11:43:09   I understood the joke, hence my comment about geek cred. I still found it a bit irksome. —JohnathanQuigley

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2010-01-27 11:50:00   By the way— sorry if this is a bit of a contrary post, but I have a pet peeve regarding people who think any joke, however lacking in wit or inventiveness, is funny, so long as it involves a reference with a sufficiently narrow audience. I see the humor in the 2600 joke, and if it were the only one you'd tried to explain to me I wouldn't be here, but I remember feeling a similar annoyance when you came to my page to explain the Wishburger joke. I also got that one, but the joke wasn't really relevent— the fact is, the information regarding the "wishburger" was inaccurate, and a wishburger was never a secret item on the In-n-Out menu (regardless of how funny it would be if it were.) I let that one go at the time to avoid seeming like an ass, but I hope you'll understand I don't want this to be a regular thing, you explaining helpfully that things are "funny" because they're a reference to something else. —JohnathanQuigley

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2010-01-27 17:27:47   Ah... again. I'm sorry. I'd say let's start over, but I'll probably be an ass again in the future sometime, so we'll just start over after that one :P Not that I like being an ass, but you know... I haven't figured out a good way not to be once in awhile. Anyway, as you seem to be already aware, my generation generally regards "geek" as a neutral or even positive quality, and that's how I meant it in my discussion page; it hadn't occurred to me that it would be considered an insult. And thank you and anyone who helped you for your work on the featured page. It's not the reason I'm apologizing, but it's awesome nonetheless. As far as the name of the school, it is Montessori Country Day (I haven't read the talk page and only skimmed the feature, it looks like you got some of it figured out after your last post on my page). I don't know much about it other than what I found on the web; I emailed my friend who has children there and asked her to either edit the page or send me more information about it, if she knows anything. So... time to relax a little bit and stop complaining about everyone, I guess. Thanks again, and again I apologize to you and everyone else I was an ass to, and I will do my best to be more civil in the future. —JohnathanQuigley

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2010-01-28 08:36:43   I'm sorry you disagree with me. That edit comment is completely appropriate as Brian's actions are outrageous. Brian has had contempt for the wiki and the editing process for a long time. As far as I am concerned now, Brian is a persona non gratia. —WilliamLewis

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2010-01-28 08:39:47   And by the way, a personal attack would be something like calling him a moron, which I didn't do. —WilliamLewis

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2010-01-28 08:40:03   Hello. Sorry to bother you but I would like to list myself in the free section of computer repair, just as myself (Brian Tangney, not as real computers. William Lewis is bent on preventing this and based on the past I dont think trying to deal with him directly will be of much good. Can you please weigh in your opinion on this? I really do help lots of people for free over the phone without ever making any money. Its not a marketing tactic. —RealComputers

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2010-01-28 09:05:10   William Lewis is saying that I need to remove prices from the RC wiki page Do I rewally need to do that? There are only 3 or 4 listed and they are the most common repairs, and I think that makes it pretty relevent. —RealComputers

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2010-01-28 10:26:06   Do you realize you just asked me not to remove the services from a different computer repair page but blocked me for trying to preserve them on the RC page? —RealComputers

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2010-01-28 12:01:10   History has shown that this is not going to change. He either does not understand what people are trying to tell him, or does not want to change. I don't think that anything is likely to improve this situation at this point. —IDoNotExist

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2010-01-28 14:33:49   Thanks for the kind words! It's been a lot of fun getting more involved. I used to use the wiki mostly to get information. I hope Jason won't kill me, but I was one of those people who used it essentially as a Yelp clone. Now that I consider myself to be more of a Davisite, though, rather than a student, I'm a lot more interested in being involved with the community... as a community. It's also a great way to keep up with local events and issues. And new restaurants! —TomGarberson

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2010-01-29 13:45:28   It seems that william lewis is the only person that has an issue with a list of services on the RC page, no one else seems to mind but if you will unlock the page I will condense the list and this can be done with. —RealComputers

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2010-01-29 16:46:19   This is VERY late, but thanks for the page clean-up! Much appreciated. —JoeyChen

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2010-01-29 21:38:01   Now that is 2600 enough for me. —WilliamLewis

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2010-01-29 22:16:53   My thoughts, exactly. I'll be very disturbed if we cave on this. —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-30 08:57:58   Yo. Respectfully I am wondering if there is something you are wating for in regards to the RC page. All the discussion about it has stoped and it seems like for the most part people dont have a problem with the service being listed at all but a few people have said it could be a little shorter. —RealComputers

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2010-01-30 09:09:03   I just noticed ur discussion about Bizzaro World. I do not envy the task you guys have of maintaining the wiki with everyones different opinions of how its supposed to work. Guess the RC page is not the only page that gets debated like this. I'll try to keep the cause for debate as minimal as possible =) —RealComputers

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2010-01-30 14:01:08   Sorry to upset you. I had only intended for my last comment to be friendly. —RealComputers

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2010-01-30 21:31:40   I'm happy to make the statement, but I'm not quite sure what you're asking for. My proposal would be to return to version 132. —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-30 22:56:57   Yeah, that one is fine with me. I just didn't know how you envisioned this proposal going. —CovertProfessor

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2010-01-31 17:12:50   At the least, cant the RC page remain locked with the content still there? Just lock it without the service listed until we finish this discussion if needed. Is this an unreasonable request? —RealComputers

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2010-01-31 22:00:36   I asked around a little and didn't get any recommendations for other browser-based IRC clients. One of these days I'll stop being lazy and hop on there. I'm just so comfortably insulated in my Chrome bubble that going back to Firefox seems somehow... dirty. Not that dirty is necessarily a bad thing! —TomGarberson

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2010-02-01 23:59:59   Awesome Groundhog Day logo! —TomGarberson

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2010-02-02 19:05:34   Hey there; I wanted to make a wiki page that links from my business page so I can post photos and bios about my staff and photos of our office. before I spend a bunch of time doing this, I would like to ask if this is an appropriate thing to do. I was hoping I could do it like a tab at the top of the page like the talk page, I dont know how to create another tab for the business page. do you think that is a good idea or is it not really the sort of think the wiki is for, I think people would like to see photos of the staff and have a bit more info about the practice but I dont want it to look cluttered. —DagonJones

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2010-02-03 00:38:08   Okay, your Proposal for a Radical Change cracked me up. Thank you for that. Also... do you ever sleep? :P —MichellePalmer

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2010-02-03 00:40:30   When I am a really old guy I intend to mumble stories about ALL the old trees in town between slurps of metamucil. —DonShor

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2010-02-03 08:30:37   The d6 roller isn't working for me with Chrome. I just get those unknown character squares :( —TomGarberson

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2010-02-03 10:37:22   Yes! Thanks! —TomGarberson

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2010-02-03 16:48:39   Oh, I hate that usage. How about "got your game on?" "What's in a game?" "games davisites play" "here's how to game in davis" ("here's how to game davis"?) —CovertProfessor

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2010-02-03 17:11:17   I could not decide which looked neater. —hankim

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2010-02-03 18:55:42   Thanks for the info, and thanks for fixing it! It looks all purty right there on the page. You know... in an XKCD kinda way. —TomGarberson

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2010-02-04 14:26:55   Very well said on the BW talk page. You oughta consider saving that somewhere to pull out again in the future should it become relevant. —TomGarberson

Agreed. Too bad he still doesn't seem to be getting it. —cp

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2010-02-05 00:04:29   Thanks for help with my list. I couldn't figure out how to do that. —LawReview

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2010-02-05 17:39:49   Wow, your edit is now one of my all time favorite replies! That one made me laugh a bit :) —EdWins

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2010-02-05 19:56:47   Editing by phone... that sounds torturous (until someone makes that cool wikispot iphone app...). Hope Berkeley works out for you! —CovertProfessor

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2010-02-06 15:38:29   Yeah — you think we should put 'em back? —CovertProfessor

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2010-02-06 19:37:11   Sarah and I had Chinese for dinner. Fortune cookie: "Not just live and let live... but live and HELP live." —JabberWokky

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2010-02-07 12:37:22   I would just imagine that if a place is doing true slow barbecue they can probably cook some wings on a bbq instead of fry them as well. Wings to me are Q'd and not fried. Baking can work if you really want to cheat —StevenDaubert