Users/PeteB

I do a bunch of wiki stuff.

I am a true believer in the Wiki system. I am a member of the Admin Team for RocWiki and try to contribute to other Wikis when I can.

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2013-03-13 13:16:42   Maybe under the circumstances, we could use a more personal and friendly approach. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-13 13:31:20   Ok, will do. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-13 14:19:05   I still get mine. I just got one with the message that you left for me. Maybe try clearing your cache and/or restarting your browser. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-13 15:13:27   Whitewashing. I think the text should be put back. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-13 18:42:12   Thanks for making the edits — I got tied up myself. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-14 15:32:38   Thanks! I'm doing fairly well, thanks. Working hard toward getting a photo display ready for April. But it's what I love doing, so I can't complain! —WesHardaker

2013-03-18 15:38:53   Obviously, I do too, which is why I called her out on it. I just think you're unlikely to get her to admit it a second time, especially on her business page. She has, however, admitted it explicitly on the wiki. She is guilty as charged. What more do we need? —CovertProfessor

2013-03-18 16:02:05   In my opinion, that's a bit over-the-top, but start a ban discussion if you want. I won't support it, though. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-19 13:56:12   I agree that it has been a mostly productive discussion. However, if I may offer a possible explanation as to why Jim reacted the way that he did — you were very quick to call for a ban/deletion. In general, bans and deletions seem to be your first reaction, whereas the general trend on the Davis wiki is that such reactions are last resorts, not first resorts. Perhaps this is why you came across as overly emotionally involved, even if you were not. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-19 16:31:59   I don't want to start an on going argument but this is my live hood and I fight for what I'm passionate about. Neither one of the bites was I breaking rules . That statement as t stands akes it sound like I don't give a damn, am a rule breaker and always bring aggressive dogs to park which is not true. —ElizabethBarthel

2013-03-19 20:13:17   "They also teach meditation for free to anyone who wishes to learn." —CovertProfessor

2013-03-19 21:15:21   Honestly, just trying to support the process. As I suggested above, I do think you tend to be a bit trigger happy. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-19 21:39:39   Part of the reason I don't participate on the wiki very often is because I do get defensive and take things to heart. It's just this whole process has been emotionally draining and hard on me because my business is being put down and my personal dog is ridiculed . I tried to answer questions the best I could without sounding upset and take neutral sides but meggo waffle really triggers me because she has been on me over over a yr saying I lied and such when honestly I don't know who she is talking about that approached me and she refuses to give Names which I respect. I don't usually take sides. I am registered with PSI and bonded and insured through business of the Carolina's . I would be happy to include my member ID number and or post a picture of my membership card. I don't like how people are quick to judge and if someone were jeopardizes your business you would do your best to make sure they were all legimitate responses. —ElizabethBarthel

2013-03-19 21:53:44   I will call them tomorrow -thank you for the suggestion —ElizabethBarthel

2013-03-19 22:11:49   Thanks, Pete. Just keeping busy. I've been a bit swamped at work. A staffing change and three (of 8) lawyers all winding up in multi-week trials simultaneously has left a lot of slack to pick up. It's fun work with a boatload of great experience, but it's definitely been cutting into my free time the last couple of weeks. —TomGarberson

2013-03-19 22:32:03   Agreed, you did back off very quickly, which I respect. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-20 13:59:49   Oh, and god forbid we say anything subjective. We wouldn't want to wiki to reflect actual human reactions of the community of Davis. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-20 14:01:08   It's OK, but you're laboring under a misunderstanding of what this wiki is supposed to be. Rewrites like that make the whole thing a bit ponderous and not much fun to read. —CovertProfessor

2013-03-20 15:14:46   There is no "both"... there are as many points of view as there are people involved. I tend to agree with CP, however. You're unnecessarily stating why you edited in the actual text.

It is as if you said:

The red double decker buses run around town.

They are red because many people below have observed them to be red.

Well, no. They are not red because people said they were. They just are red. People agree they are red, but you don't need to state why the editing rational behind the statement. That is needlessly wordy, and is not actually about the subject of the entry, it is about the entry itself. It is a statement describing the wiki, not a statement describing the buses (or eye doctor). —JabberWokky

2013-03-25 22:42:27   How do I delete my business page? —NutrishopDavis

2013-04-02 20:53:28   Pete, you're a pretty cool guy. —BrentLaabs

2013-04-10 18:23:54   It probably shouldn't be there, and I seem to recall we had a discussion about it when it appeared, and made it smaller as a compromise. There is a grey area between what is promotional and what is informational; the coupon might arguably be in that grey area, though it might also arguably be simply promotional. I'm not in the mood to argue over that, though, because it opens up the question of whether, e.g., we can mention happy hour specials, which I think people want to know. On the other hand, the Yelp, etc., reviews open up a brand new can of worms that I would really like to keep closed. —CovertProfessor

2013-04-17 15:30:37   I'm sorry! That makes it very confusing though. Can I remove them once I have photos of the new space? —arica

2013-04-17 15:39:04   We'd prefer we keep them for historical reference. We can help you clearly display them as pics from the old site —PeteB

2013-04-19 22:10:47   Was tied up all day, sorry. Seems to me as though you handled things well, though. —CovertProfessor

2013-04-30 21:37:34   Oh Thanks, I didn't understand. I thought it was a sidekick of Davis Wiki, something like 'Mystery picture' lol —ConstantiaOomen

2013-05-01 16:45:53   Thanks, but I think it's best that new editors understand that this is a collaborative process. I am well aware that other editors may judge things differently than I do, and I think it works best when different people chime in (as happened on the Oakshade Commons Apartments/Talk page). —CovertProfessor

2013-05-02 12:19:05   Hey Peter, I don't believe AutNo is spam. It's relevant to that page, along with the others. Typing in Davis, CA on AutNo brought up some nice options not found on other rental sites. Care to clarify? The page I am referring to was: http://daviswiki.org/Apartments —mammer

2013-05-04 22:03:53   You posed a question as "why have 2 account?" The other one is unrecoverable as that I don't have that e-mail address anymore and I don't remember the password. I also deleted the account many months back. —ToddJames007

2013-05-06 15:19:20   Good, thanks. —CovertProfessor

2013-05-09 10:42:27   Nope. but thanks for the offer. Remember, we all agreed to intentionally wait so that the person had time to ask questions, engage in communication with other editors, or close the account themselves. That's why I do them in batches, spaced out and with plenty of time. If you check, you'll see that when I do a batch that had one just added, I skip that one, leaving it for the next batch. That way the person has a period of time to get the messages left to them and communicate with the rest of the community. The delay in closing them is by intent, and based on community discussion regarding the accounts.

Of course, we also agreed to not use the include only or as the first contact, and instead always add a personal note, contacting the person using the account at least twice, and at least 24 hours apart, but not everybody does that. The include was supposed to be the second step (although I notice that in the steps, it has somehow been moved up to the first step, even if the surrounding text is pretty clear that it is intended to be the second step, a minimum of 24 hours after a personal note and if the account continues being used). —JabberWokky

2013-05-14 15:26:30   Almost certainly sockpuppeting with those other accounts, unless he is holding residents by the hand in his office and having them write positive reviews (or other, similar scenario). —CovertProfessor

2013-05-16 21:30:31   I'm not not seeing why the Same IP Address include doesn't fit. Is there something I'm missing? —JabberWokky