Recent Changes for "Users/SteveOstrowski" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowskiRecent Changes of the page "Users/SteveOstrowski" on Davis Wiki.en-us Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 15:06:45BrentLaabsmight as well leave a forwarding address <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 3: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ''You can contact him on his [wiki:sacramento:"Users/SteveOstrowski" Sac Wiki page].''<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 13:11:43PhilipNeustrom <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + ''Steve: I think we'd be open to considering your being un-banned in some reasonable period of time, but until then, don't edit the Davis Wiki.''</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 13:08:11PhilipNeustrombanned <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- [[Image(Steve's Wiki.JPG, thumbnail)]]<br> - [[image(Steve's Eye.jpg, right, 200, thumbnail)]]<br> - <br> - '''Name:''' Steven Ostrowski aka DJ Steve Empire, Dark Lord of Liberalism, Dictator of Relativism, Voice of the Progressive Coalition, and Progressive Attack Machine, and has a Shady Level of 9.6.<br> - <br> - '''Phone Number:''' (530) 604-9154<br> - <br> - '''Office:''' ["AS Papers" Underground Headquarters] and ["KDVS"]<br> - <br> - '''AIM:''' empirestv(1-12)/usually empirestv12<br> - <br> - '''Email:''' empirestv(at)hotmail(dot)com.<br> - <br> - '''Business Website''': http://www.take-action-today.com/<br> - <br> - '''Live Journal:''' http://sostrowski.livejournal.com/<br> - <br> - '''Blog Spot:''' http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/<br> - <br> - '''Myspace:''' http://www.myspace.com/empirestv<br> - <br> - '''Facebook:''' http://ucdavis.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3234746<br> - <br> - '''Sac Wiki:''' http://www.sacwiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski<br> - <br> - '''Nation State:''' http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Luthori<br> - <br> - '''You Tube''' http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=empirestv<br> - <br> - [[Image(Darkside.jpg)]]<br> - <br> - =Activities=<br> - <br> - I host a public affairs show on KDVS called the Empire Nation. I had a [http://169.237.101.62/archives/Steve%20Empire%20-%20The%20Empire%20Nation%20(128kbps).m3u talk] with Gabe Koulikov on Pro Life issues.<br> - <br> - =Blatent Contradiction of the Week=<br> - <br> - Steve's gives the winner to Karl for being an ignorant political opportunist.<br> - <br> - Hi Gabe, thanks for spilling the beans on the Steve Ostrowski page. He's been playing games with the facts for some time on the wiki, and his reaction to your comment may have pushed the other editors over the edge with regard to his status as a user of the wiki. It would be nice while checking the recent changes page, to not have to see him clogging it up with still more re-wordings of meaningless puppet pages of his. Once again, it can be about Davis! ["KarlMogel"]<br> - <br> - One Day Later<br> - <br> - Ah, nevermind. You were very aware - the both of you have the same IP Address - which means you're probably in the same room, if not using the same computer. I'm rather disappointed that you've become a party to Steve abusing the wiki. What I wonder is, why didn't you cut out the middle-man and have Steve edit through your account and try to fool everyone that way? —["KarlMogel"]<br> - <br> - <br> - =Who Edits Steve Ostrowski's Public Page?=<br> - <br> - 142 Edits by LEAD 23%<br> - 82 Edits by William Lewis 13% (Steve's Biographer)<br> - 16 Edits by Ally Joseph Bleckman 2.6%<br> - 215 Edits by Steve Ostrowski 35% (Ostrowski’s edits to his own public page is 35% and Schwabs is 33%)<br> - 9 Edits by other allies some of which are probably sock puppets of Ostrowski 1.5%<br> - 144 by Neutrals 24% + Lewis= 37% total<br> - 608 Edits Total<br> - <br> - LEAD + Lewis= 36%<br> - Steven Ostrowski= 35% (Was Banned from Editing Public Page)<br> - <br> - Theoretical model: Steve plays dead while others edit his public page<br> - <br> - LEAD 36%<br> - Lewis 21%<br> - Allies: 6%<br> - Neutral:37%<br> - 393 Edits Total 100%<br> - <br> - <br> - Removing Revert Williams out of the stats<br> - <br> - LEAD 46%<br> - Allies 8%<br> - Neutral 46%<br> - <br> - Total: 311<br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - =Blog Entries=<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/09/leads-hold-on-davis-wiki-ii.html LEAD's Hold on Davis Wiki II]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/09/leads-hold-on-davis-wiki.html LEAD's Hold on Davis Wiki]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/08/conflict-on-f-street.html Conflict on F Street]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/08/chavez-man.html The Chavez Man]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/08/asucd-commission-behavior.html ASUCD Commission Behavior]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/08/libertarian-and-republican-connection.html Libertarian Republican Connection]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/08/asucd-taser-resolution-and-petition.html ASUCD TASER Resolution and Petition]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/07/sen-peake-seeks-reelection.html Sen. Peake Seeks Reelection]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/07/i-supported-measure-k.html Measure K]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/07/spencer-higgins-draft.html Spencer Higgins Draft]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/07/davis-police.html Davis Police]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/07/sodexho-rebellion.html Silent Majority Vs Sodexho Rebels]<br> - <br> - [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/07/davis-college-republican-game_5015.html Davis College Republican Immigration Game]<br> - <br> - <br> - =Current Activities=<br> - <br> - KDVS Public Affairs DJ ["The Empire Nation"] 8:30-9:30am on Thursdays<br> - UC Davis Summer Session II<br> - ["Davis"] ["City Council"] Candidate intern<br> - ["Action Blue College Democrats"] Chief Parliamentarian<br> - ["Yolo County"] Republican student member<br> - Davis Wiki Editor<br> - Fraternity Business and Finance Chair<br> - Particracy.net Christian Democratic Party leader for the Holy Luthori Empire<br> - Bowling<br> - Swords and Sandals Lieutenant<br> - <br> - <br> - [[Stats(SteveOstrowski)]]<br> - <br> - <br> - [[Comments]]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:24:14'' [[nbsp]] Steve I have challenged you 3 times to come up with dirt on LEAD or any of us that were associated with it, and you have failed. --["Users/JamesSchwab"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:26:35'' [[nbsp]] I am not going to bow to your timing, it's not time yet so you are going to have to deal with it for the time being. I am going to release the information when it hurts you the most. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - <br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:26:22'' [[nbsp]] Fair's fair. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:27:24'' [[nbsp]] It isn't up to you to authorize pages or demand their removal. ["Users/KarlMogel/Unanswered Questions"] is a valid page with questions that you can either answer or ignore. --["Users/JasonAller"]<br> - * ''2007-09-09 15:30:17'' [[nbsp]] It's an attack ad pure and simple. You create a really bad precedence by allowing this behavior, I would delete it except for it being a user page. In any case I do not want my comments on this page. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:29:35'' [[nbsp]] Steve, if I didn't know better you are threatening to hurt me. LOL That's great. --["Users/JamesSchwab"]<br> - * You need to be removed from ASUCD as well as your drones. I have every right to want to use politics to remove you from a political scene. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * Dude, I graduated, I live in Sacramento, I work in Sacramento...I think my own life happenings has removed me from the ASUCD political scene. "Use politics", how do you use politics? And believe it or not people have their own minds and make their own decisions regardless of what I think or say, even people involved in LEAD. Thinking that I control everything is far more a weird compliment to me, than anything close to reality. -["JamesSchwab"]<br> - * Your new chair is a mere puppet, we both know this, but if you so desire we can play with words and deny what we do. Don't tell me you wouldn't care if all of your reforms were reversed. You're not saying to all the LEADs out there that you wouldn't care? --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * I think you need to examine your Don Quixote reality and realize that the monsters you are fighting are merely Windmills.-["JamesSchwab"]<br> - ------<br> - <br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:31:04'' [[nbsp]] If you don't want any comments on this page, how are we supposed to talk with you? Removing them after you read them is fine. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]<br> - * I have no interest in you. As far as I am concerned you are a troll and an annoyance. You bring nothing of value to any of my activity pages or ASUCD pages. You attack me while you hide behind your user page and non-existent reputation. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * I would like to note here and now that WilliamLewis is a fine gentleman, though a bit trollish, infact you saying that he is trollish means he has a reputation, just noting that small inconsistency. :P ~DavePoole<br> - I dispute the trollish characterization. Revert-happy for crap edits is more like it. :) -wl<br> - <br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:42:05'' [[nbsp]] Steve, read the letter. Concentrate on the part about how the members who voted against your bill will have political problems in their future. Not a jump to conclude that other people could find it threatening. I know at least two did. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]<br> - * I hope they do have problems in the future, but it was not a threat but a prediction or observation. If I declare that you will lose an election due to a vote in a particular government body for a particular political action that isn't a threat nor should it be considered threatening. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - I'm not saying that it was reasonable to consider it a threat, but simply that some people did consider it to be one. I certainly wouldn't interpret it that way. -wl<br> - ------<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:51:03'' [[nbsp]] I am the closest thing you have to an independent voice editing your pages. I think all of ASUCD is a waste and I wish it no longer existed. I do, however, want this stuff documented well, which a goal you seemingly don't share. I am not your political enemy. I'm not trying to attack you. You make yourself look bad all on your own. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 17:00:45'' [[nbsp]] Both of you lay off each other. Or call each other and have a damn fistfight behind Hibbert Lumber. As far as the wiki goes, end it, both of you. Now. --["Users/JabberWokky"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-10 01:59:27'' [[nbsp]] If Hamilton was the Lord, than who was -his- master? --["Users/JoseBleckman"]<br> - * There always has to be a first. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * I doubt he found a holocron. No offence to him, but I feel you are overestimating his level of force potential. --["Users/JoseBleckman"]<br> - * Perhaps he found a katric ark, so no force potential needed? There are some pre-Surak warlords stored down in the Hall of Ancient Thoughts. --["JabberWokky"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-10 07:18:30'' [[nbsp]] Oh no! You've hurt me politically! Ouch! --["Users/JamesSchwab"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-10 13:08:28'' [[nbsp]] What DavePoole edited was the mail macro - that's how it's done on all the wiki pages. When you are logged in, it's clickable. When you are logged out, it is not clickable and it had the (at) stuff. It's spam protection. Not something to "back off on", he was doing you a favor. --["Users/EdWins"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-10 13:17:06'' [[nbsp]] I am aware what he was trying to do. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ ''This person was ["Wiki Community Proposal 1: Steven Ostrowski" banned] ["Ban Steven Ostrowski" from] the Davis Wiki after much discussion and a strong consensus that it was the right thing to do.''</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 12:17:06SteveOstrowskiComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 169: </td> <td> Line 169: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-10 13:17:06'' [[nbsp]] I am aware what he was trying to do. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 12:08:28EdWinsComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 167: </td> <td> Line 167: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-10 13:08:28'' [[nbsp]] What DavePoole edited was the mail macro - that's how it's done on all the wiki pages. When you are logged in, it's clickable. When you are logged out, it is not clickable and it had the (at) stuff. It's spam protection. Not something to "back off on", he was doing you a favor. --["Users/EdWins"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 10:53:40SteveOstrowskiRevert to version 628 (back off the personal page). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 12: </td> <td> Line 12: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''Email:''' <span>[[mailto(</span>empirestv<span>&nbsp;AT </span>hotmail<span>&nbsp;DOT </span>com<span>)]]</span>. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''Email:''' empirestv<span>(at)</span>hotmail<span>(dot)</span>com. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 08:39:00DavidPoole(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 12: </td> <td> Line 12: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''Email:''' empirestv<span>(at)</span>hotmail<span>(dot)</span>com. </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''Email:''' <span>[[mailto(</span>empirestv<span>&nbsp;AT </span>hotmail<span>&nbsp;DOT </span>com<span>)]]</span>. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 08:30:51WilliamLewis(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 149: </td> <td> Line 149: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ I dispute the trollish characterization. Revert-happy for crap edits is more like it. :) -wl<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 08:29:08DavidPoole(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 148: </td> <td> Line 148: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I would like to note here and now that WilliamLewis is a fine gentleman, though a bit trollish, infact you saying that he is trollish means he has a reputation, just noting that small inconsistency. :P ~DavePoole</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 07:09:03JabberWokkyNo politics, no wiki commentary. Pure, unadulturated, solid geek. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 161: </td> <td> Line 161: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Perhaps he found a katric ark, so no force potential needed? There are some pre-Surak warlords stored down in the Hall of Ancient Thoughts. --["JabberWokky"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 06:18:30JamesSchwabComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 161: </td> <td> Line 161: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-10 07:18:30'' [[nbsp]] Oh no! You've hurt me politically! Ouch! --["Users/JamesSchwab"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 01:14:11JoseBleckman <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 160: </td> <td> Line 160: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I doubt he found a holocron. No offence to him, but I feel you are overestimating his level of force potential. --["Users/JoseBleckman"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 01:12:13SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 159: </td> <td> Line 159: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * There always has to be a first. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-10 00:59:27JoseBleckmanComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 157: </td> <td> Line 157: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-10 01:59:27'' [[nbsp]] If Hamilton was the Lord, than who was -his- master? --["Users/JoseBleckman"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 17:15:19JamesSchwab <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 142: </td> <td> Line 142: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I think you need to examine your Don Quixote reality and realize that the monsters you are fighting are merely Windmills.-["JamesSchwab"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 16:00:45JabberWokkyComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 154: </td> <td> Line 154: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 17:00:45'' [[nbsp]] Both of you lay off each other. Or call each other and have a damn fistfight behind Hibbert Lumber. As far as the wiki goes, end it, both of you. Now. --["Users/JabberWokky"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:51:03WilliamLewisComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 152: </td> <td> Line 152: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:51:03'' [[nbsp]] I am the closest thing you have to an independent voice editing your pages. I think all of ASUCD is a waste and I wish it no longer existed. I do, however, want this stuff documented well, which a goal you seemingly don't share. I am not your political enemy. I'm not trying to attack you. You make yourself look bad all on your own. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:47:15SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 152: </td> <td> Line 152: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ''2007-09-09 15:45:11'' [[nbsp]] It is difficult to call it a direct threat, because threats like that can be claimed to be 'expressing concern' rather than directly threatening. The letter is best interpreted as a "veiled threat" - so I agree with the interpretation of it as a threat. --["Users/KarlMogel"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:46:42SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 141: </td> <td> Line 141: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Your new chair is a mere puppet, we both know this, but if you so desire we can play with words and deny what we do. Don't tell me you wouldn't care if all of your reforms were reversed. You're not saying to all the LEADs out there that you wouldn't care? --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:46:41WilliamLewisreply about reasonableness <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 148: </td> <td> Line 148: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> * I hope they do have problems in the future, but it was not a threat but a prediction or observation. If I declare that you will lose an election due to a vote in a particular government body for a particular political action that isn't a threat nor should it be considered threatening. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> * I hope they do have problems in the future, but it was not a threat but a prediction or observation. If I declare that you will lose an election due to a vote in a particular government body for a particular political action that isn't a threat nor should it be considered threatening. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<span><br> + I'm not saying that it was reasonable to consider it a threat, but simply that some people did consider it to be one. I certainly wouldn't interpret it that way. -wl</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:45:11KarlMogelComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 149: </td> <td> Line 149: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:45:11'' [[nbsp]] It is difficult to call it a direct threat, because threats like that can be claimed to be 'expressing concern' rather than directly threatening. The letter is best interpreted as a "veiled threat" - so I agree with the interpretation of it as a threat. --["Users/KarlMogel"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:44:23JamesSchwab <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 140: </td> <td> Line 140: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> </td> <td> <span>+ * Dude, I graduated, I live in Sacramento, I work in Sacramento...I think my own life happenings has removed me from the ASUCD political scene. "Use politics", how do you use politics? And believe it or not people have their own minds and make their own decisions regardless of what I think or say, even people involved in LEAD. Thinking that I control everything is far more a weird compliment to me, than anything close to reality. -["JamesSchwab"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:44:00SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 148: </td> <td> Line 148: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I hope they do have problems in the future, but it was not a threat but a prediction or observation. If I declare that you will lose an election due to a vote in a particular government body for a particular political action that isn't a threat nor should it be considered threatening. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:42:05WilliamLewisComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 146: </td> <td> Line 146: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:42:05'' [[nbsp]] Steve, read the letter. Concentrate on the part about how the members who voted against your bill will have political problems in their future. Not a jump to conclude that other people could find it threatening. I know at least two did. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:39:10SteveOstrowskiRevert to version 609. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 146: </td> <td> Line 146: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:38:34'' [[nbsp]] So I'm a child for not letting you censor and whitewash things to be just the way you want? Nice leap of logic there. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:38:34WilliamLewisComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 146: </td> <td> Line 146: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:38:34'' [[nbsp]] So I'm a child for not letting you censor and whitewash things to be just the way you want? Nice leap of logic there. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:35:20SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 139: </td> <td> Line 139: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * You need to be removed from ASUCD as well as your drones. I have every right to want to use politics to remove you from a political scene. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:33:40SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 143: </td> <td> Line 143: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I have no interest in you. As far as I am concerned you are a troll and an annoyance. You bring nothing of value to any of my activity pages or ASUCD pages. You attack me while you hide behind your user page and non-existent reputation. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:33:27JoseBleckmanbelieve this is what was meant <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 136: </td> <td> Line 136: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * ''2007-09-09 15:30:17'' [[nbsp]] It's an attack ad pure and simple. You create a really bad precedence by allowing this behavior, I would delete it except for it being a user page. In any case I do not want my comments on this page. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 139: </td> <td> Line 140: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ''2007-09-09 15:30:17'' [[nbsp]] It's an attack ad pure and simple. You create a really bad precedence by allowing this behavior, I would delete it except for it being a user page. In any case I do not want my comments on this page. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 142: </td> <td> Line 143: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:32:22'' [[nbsp]] An attack ad? I am not even running for anything. And what bad precedence? --["Users/JamesSchwab"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:32:22JamesSchwabComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 142: </td> <td> Line 142: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:32:22'' [[nbsp]] An attack ad? I am not even running for anything. And what bad precedence? --["Users/JamesSchwab"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:31:17SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 131: </td> <td> Line 131: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Put up or shut up. Nobody believes that you have this dirt. You like compulsively when it comes to this kind of thing. -wl</span> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:31:04WilliamLewisComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 140: </td> <td> Line 140: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:31:04'' [[nbsp]] If you don't want any comments on this page, how are we supposed to talk with you? Removing them after you read them is fine. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:30:17SteveOstrowskiComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 138: </td> <td> Line 138: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:30:17'' [[nbsp]] It's an attack ad pure and simple. You create a really bad precedence by allowing this behavior, I would delete it except for it being a user page. In any case I do not want my comments on this page. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:29:35JamesSchwabComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 136: </td> <td> Line 136: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:29:35'' [[nbsp]] Steve, if I didn't know better you are threatening to hurt me. LOL That's great. --["Users/JamesSchwab"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:29:11KarlMogelmoving WL's comment for continuity <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 130: </td> <td> Line 130: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ''2007-09-09 15:26:22'' [[nbsp]] Fair's fair. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - ------</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 135: </td> <td> Line 133: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ''2007-09-09 15:26:22'' [[nbsp]] Fair's fair. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> + ------</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:27:24JasonAllerComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 134: </td> <td> Line 134: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:27:24'' [[nbsp]] It isn't up to you to authorize pages or demand their removal. ["Users/KarlMogel/Unanswered Questions"] is a valid page with questions that you can either answer or ignore. --["Users/JasonAller"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:27:22WilliamLewis(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 133: </td> <td> Line 133: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Put up or shut up. Nobody believes that you have this dirt. You like compulsively when it comes to this kind of thing. -wl</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:26:35SteveOstrowskiComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 131: </td> <td> Line 131: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:26:35'' [[nbsp]] I am not going to bow to your timing, it's not time yet so you are going to have to deal with it for the time being. I am going to release the information when it hurts you the most. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:26:22KarlMogelComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 129: </td> <td> Line 129: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:26:22'' [[nbsp]] Fair's fair. --["Users/KarlMogel"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:24:14JamesSchwabComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:24:14'' [[nbsp]] Steve I have challenged you 3 times to come up with dirt on LEAD or any of us that were associated with it, and you have failed. --["Users/JamesSchwab"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:18:34SteveOstrowskiRevert to version 593 (I am not playing your games). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 15:17:47'' [[nbsp]] What's wrong with my rewrite? It's perfectly factual and doesn't contain all that muddy language that the version you like does. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 14:17:47WilliamLewisComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 15:17:47'' [[nbsp]] What's wrong with my rewrite? It's perfectly factual and doesn't contain all that muddy language that the version you like does. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 13:59:15SteveOstrowskiRevert to version 591 (Post on your page then ). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 12:34:23'' [[nbsp]] Good afternoon, Steve. I just got back from a bit of Life(R). Nice to see that you're found a contradiction where one isn't. I've known that you and ["Users/GabeKoulikov" Gabe] are friends, and have interacted with him through SFL, but what I did not know was that the two of you are now roomies as of this month of thereabouts. Therefore, when you and Gabe were editing at the same time from the same IP Address, it seemed that you were trying to use him to do the edits you want - as a cover, doing an edit powwow from the same location. On top of that, I blew my top at the fact that while editing together, you set up another sockpuppet account, and so it was obvious that he knew that - and it seems from his response to the whole thing - he has backed off from responsibility. Perhaps, as he hasn't done much wiki editing, he didn't know about the rules about sockpuppetry, so it seems you dragged him into it. There's your misunderstanding.<br> - However, you're the one who came up with the strawman idea that folks on the Davis Wiki (myself included) thought that there was some sort of "schism" between you two - no one suggested that except you. Instead, several of us reacted warmly to Gabe for outing your SFL power grab (if you can call running an inactive club power) ''given the fact that the two of you are on good terms.'' - That showed substantial guts and honesty about it on his part.<br> - So there's no contradiction between thanking Gabe for his honesty, and misunderstanding his involvement in helping you try to circumvent the SFL page lock on your account(s). But I've got a better one for your personal page - and I know you love juicy gossip. How about the time when I asked you last week about your attempts at blackmail, and then while denying that you blackmail people, you blackmailed LEAD in response? (Strange, because I have no connection to LEAD) Great stuff!<br> - Just try not to lose much sleep over the Davis Wiki. Looking at your edits I can't figure out whether you're on California Time, Japan Time, or if you're sleeping on Zimbabwe's clock. You'll probably forget all about it years down the road. Except if you ever run for political office. --["Users/KarlMogel"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 12:22:43KarlMogelYou could at least allow a comment response to your attack on your personal page <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 12:34:23'' [[nbsp]] Good afternoon, Steve. I just got back from a bit of Life(R). Nice to see that you're found a contradiction where one isn't. I've known that you and ["Users/GabeKoulikov" Gabe] are friends, and have interacted with him through SFL, but what I did not know was that the two of you are now roomies as of this month of thereabouts. Therefore, when you and Gabe were editing at the same time from the same IP Address, it seemed that you were trying to use him to do the edits you want - as a cover, doing an edit powwow from the same location. On top of that, I blew my top at the fact that while editing together, you set up another sockpuppet account, and so it was obvious that he knew that - and it seems from his response to the whole thing - he has backed off from responsibility. Perhaps, as he hasn't done much wiki editing, he didn't know about the rules about sockpuppetry, so it seems you dragged him into it. There's your misunderstanding.<br> + However, you're the one who came up with the strawman idea that folks on the Davis Wiki (myself included) thought that there was some sort of "schism" between you two - no one suggested that except you. Instead, several of us reacted warmly to Gabe for outing your SFL power grab (if you can call running an inactive club power) ''given the fact that the two of you are on good terms.'' - That showed substantial guts and honesty about it on his part.<br> + So there's no contradiction between thanking Gabe for his honesty, and misunderstanding his involvement in helping you try to circumvent the SFL page lock on your account(s). But I've got a better one for your personal page - and I know you love juicy gossip. How about the time when I asked you last week about your attempts at blackmail, and then while denying that you blackmail people, you blackmailed LEAD in response? (Strange, because I have no connection to LEAD) Great stuff!<br> + Just try not to lose much sleep over the Davis Wiki. Looking at your edits I can't figure out whether you're on California Time, Japan Time, or if you're sleeping on Zimbabwe's clock. You'll probably forget all about it years down the road. Except if you ever run for political office. --["Users/KarlMogel"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 12:11:23SteveOstrowskiRevert to version 589. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 13:11:02'' [[nbsp]] Did you really read my comment before deleting it? That was a fast revert. Not saying you don't have a right to do what you did, but you could at least read a correction. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 12:11:02WilliamLewisComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 13:11:02'' [[nbsp]] Did you really read my comment before deleting it? That was a fast revert. Not saying you don't have a right to do what you did, but you could at least read a correction. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 12:07:48SteveOstrowskiRevert to version 587 (Again, same deal ). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 13:07:13'' [[nbsp]] Aggie coverage isn't necessarily noteworthy enough for inclusion on the wiki. You might want to think about that before attempting to make productive edits by spamming articles with Aggie links. Secondly, you really don't know Brent and Dave that well. The only slates Brent has EVER been affiliated with are Students for an Orwellian Society and Friends Urging Campus Kindness. He may support individual LEAD candidates (e.g. Christine Pham), but he doesn't support the slate as a whole in general. Dave thinks the entire slate system is a joke, so it's laughable you'd label him LEAD. His only link to LEAD would be through Brent's imagined affiliation. Quite honestly, I'm surprised you haven't included me in your LEAD conspiracy as I'm just about as affiliated with LEAD as Dave is. That is to say, he hangs out with Brent and I do too. Finally, you don't know my politics; don't pretend that you do. I am not hostile to Students for Life @ UCD per se. I actually support the supposed message of the group. What I don't support is you lying about being in charge of a group that you clearly have no affiliation with. My only allegiance is to the truth. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 12:07:13WilliamLewisComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 13:07:13'' [[nbsp]] Aggie coverage isn't necessarily noteworthy enough for inclusion on the wiki. You might want to think about that before attempting to make productive edits by spamming articles with Aggie links. Secondly, you really don't know Brent and Dave that well. The only slates Brent has EVER been affiliated with are Students for an Orwellian Society and Friends Urging Campus Kindness. He may support individual LEAD candidates (e.g. Christine Pham), but he doesn't support the slate as a whole in general. Dave thinks the entire slate system is a joke, so it's laughable you'd label him LEAD. His only link to LEAD would be through Brent's imagined affiliation. Quite honestly, I'm surprised you haven't included me in your LEAD conspiracy as I'm just about as affiliated with LEAD as Dave is. That is to say, he hangs out with Brent and I do too. Finally, you don't know my politics; don't pretend that you do. I am not hostile to Students for Life @ UCD per se. I actually support the supposed message of the group. What I don't support is you lying about being in charge of a group that you clearly have no affiliation with. My only allegiance is to the truth. --["Users/WilliamLewis"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 12:06:23SteveOstrowskiYou know better than to waste your time on a "personal" page <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 127: </td> <td> Line 127: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-05 23:26:30'' [[nbsp]] You never replied to Karl's questions. --["Users/JasonAller"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-05 23:26:52'' [[nbsp]] Nice to see that after our little conversation, you stopped editing the wiki for a while. It is unfortunate to see that nothing sank in, and you're back to your old anti-fact self. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-05 23:27:25'' [[nbsp]] In Steve's world, there are no questions, only things that Steve doesn't yet want to reveal --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-05 23:32:22'' [[nbsp]] When the code gets put in place to limit a user to one revert per day on a page how are you going to handle it? --["Users/JasonAller"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-05 23:33:17'' [[nbsp]] One day at a time --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 00:05:12'' [[nbsp]] Well, it looks like the villagers have their pitchforks and torches out and are coming for you. You should have been nicer to those who might have headed off the mob. --["Users/JasonAller"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 00:07:09'' [[nbsp]] It really doesn't take much to create a mob. Anyone can do it, I have just haven't entertained the idea of creating my own. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 00:21:42'' [[nbsp]] Yes, but to create a mob, you need more than one person. You drive people away, even from your own causes! I still think you're a self-parody. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 00:29:07'' [[nbsp]] Steve, it might be a good idea to call it a night and start again tomorrow. --["Users/JabberWokky"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 00:33:32'' [[nbsp]] Actually due to my schedule this is early for me, I don't see myself calling it a "night" until long after all of you are asleep. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 06:58:32'' [[nbsp]] Steve, I asked about the Donations line last night, and it was the reason that the Talk page was created. If you are truly unwilling to communicate with other editors, rather than just defending your ideas, there is a serious problem here. At a certain point, your robotic reverts without discussion do constitute abuse of the wiki rather than an editorial position. --["Users/JabberWokky"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 07:22:32'' [[nbsp]] The donation information is accurate, it cannot be proven otherwise. The fact that it was made a discussion item is beyond me. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * ''But what does it mean? I have no idea what the heck "Donation: Name of Group" means. Does that mean that you can donate to them? Write checks to that name? They give out donations? It is content free to those without additional information. It is so vague as to warrant either deletion or explanation. That is why it went on the Talk page, to try and gather the rationale for it being there. Your militancy regarding control has really become self-defeating at this point, Steve... I'm trying to get useful information to help improve the entry. Believe it or not, there are still people who don't care who edits what, they just want to improve the content of the wiki.'' --["Users/JabberWokky"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-07 12:35:51'' [[nbsp]] Why did you take the youtube videos down? --["Users/BrentLaabs"]<br> - * I am not going to answer your question, I will do what I wish with my own youtube account. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * That makes sense. '''Ignorance is Strength''' is an acceptable answer. --["Users/BrentLaabs"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-07 18:02:01'' [[nbsp]] Add the show link to your personal page here, or a talk page, and I'll be happy to add it to your empire nation page. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-08 19:54:53'' [[nbsp]] Was the police_murphy.jpg graphic pulled from the UC Davis Police website? --["Users/JasonAller"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-08 20:05:12'' [[nbsp]] The concern with the images on the ["UC Davis Police Department"] page is that it looks like one came from their site and the other came from [http://aggiefamilypack.ucdavis.edu/1003/safety_tips.html] which makes them content that you can't release as Creative Commons licensed. Can you remove them? I'll take some photos at the police department this next week for the page. --["Users/JasonAller"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-08 20:22:17'' [[nbsp]] There are a lot of pages that have image problems then, is there a guide for it? --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * See ["Copyrights"]. Can you start putting together a list of pages that have graphics that you've spotted that need verification or replacement? --["Users/JasonAller"]<br> - * Sometimes it is difficult to tell the difference but I will make a list if I see them. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-08 22:24:57'' [[nbsp]] Please your shady level is much higher than a 9.6 and that Wiki drink picture of yourself is what started that whole mess.... lol --["Users/WeMo"]<br> - * Tis cursed I say! I hesitate to upgrade it to a level beyond 10 as I consider a level 10 on the border of illegal activity. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-08 23:06:13'' [[nbsp]] what do you mean the official name? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-08 23:08:14'' [[nbsp]] Black Panther Party is defunct, doesn't exist, is dead. The new groups from 1987 is the New Black Panther Party. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * can you show me a link proving this? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 04:21:24'' [[nbsp]] I read your blog on Davis Wiki/LEAD. It was pretty interesting, I don't really pay attention to the stats and thought you and William totaled 90% of the edits.<br> - <br> - There might be something there but having a lot of edits might be an indicator of a person who is very active within the community. Brent Laabs for example is an active, knowledgeable person who can contribute a lot to the wiki. To discredit all of his or other members' edits as "spin" is a bad approach. When you use total numbers in your analysis, that's what you're doing.<br> - <br> - And I agree with you about NPOV, to some degree. --["Users/GregWebb"]<br> - ------<br> - ''2007-09-09 12:34:23'' [[nbsp]] Good afternoon, Steve. I just got back from a bit of Life(R). Nice to see that you're found a contradiction where one isn't. I've known that you and ["Users/GabeKoulikov" Gabe] are friends, and have interacted with him through SFL, but what I did not know was that the two of you are now roomies as of this month of thereabouts. Therefore, when you and Gabe were editing at the same time from the same IP Address, it seemed that you were trying to use him to do the edits you want - as a cover, doing an edit powwow from the same location. On top of that, I blew my top at the fact that while editing together, you set up another sockpuppet account, and so it was obvious that he knew that - and it seems from his response to the whole thing - you dragged him into it and he has backed off from responsibility. Perhaps, as he hasn't done much wiki editing, he didn't know about the rules about sockpuppetry, so it seems you dragged him into it. There's your misunderstanding.<br> - <br> - However, you're the one who came up with the strawman idea that folks on the Davis Wiki (myself included) thought that there was some sort of "schism" between you two - no one suggested that except you. Instead, several of us reacted warmly to Gabe for outing your SFL power grab (if you can call running an inactive club power) ''given the fact that the two of you are on good terms.'' - That showed substantial guts and honesty about it on his part.<br> - <br> - So there's no contradiction between thanking Gabe for his honesty, and misunderstanding his involvement in helping you try to circumvent the SFL page lock on your account(s). But I've got a better one for your personal page - and I know you love juicy gossip. How about the time when I asked you last week about your attempts at blackmail, and then while denying that you blackmail people, you blackmailed LEAD in response? (Strange, because I have no connection to LEAD) Great stuff! Don't remember? I'll fill you in on it in a moment.<br> - <br> - Just try not to lose much sleep over the Davis Wiki. Looking at your edits I can't figure out whether you're on California Time, Japan Time, or if you're sleeping on Zimbabwe's clock. You'll probably forget all about it years down the road. Except if you ever run for political office. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - <br> - ===== Karl's Unanswered Questions =====<br> - ''(Note where Steve threatens blackmail against someone else in response to questioning him about blackmail.'''(BOLD)''')''<br> - --<br> - ''2007-08-31 17:00:46'' [[nbsp]] I've just really got to know, Steve, why do you deny things you've admitted to, and try to delete them? I mean I know you want your public wiki page reflect well on you, but isn't that lying? Don't you believe that is wrong? How do you reconcile your beliefs and your actions, is what really fascinates me. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - * The wiki is a grand experiment for me in researching what people want and need out of a system. So when false information is presented on the Wiki I let people think about it for a while and then elliminate it. How do you justify posting something on the Wiki without evidence or witnesses only because a rival faction on the campus says so? But in any case the chalking erasing, whether it was done or not is not in the scheme of things noteworthy. One could write an entire book on all my activities, but the Wiki is not a book. The chalking incident is being given too much space and indeed I am merciful enough to not degrade other people's profiles with their own ASUCD violations. I am hopeful the chalking paragraph will be erased and replaced with something more devious and noteworthy in the future. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - --<br> - ''2007-09-01 16:39:49'' [[nbsp]] What false information, Steve? You admitted to removing LEAD chalking, your own testimony did you in. Don't insult my and other people's intelligence, so I'll ask you again, why do you lie? Unless you can answer this question honestly, then you don't believe that lying is wrong, and you don't believe the beliefs that you would like to push on the student body with your 2-member slate.<br> - BTW - the world is not against you, so long as you don't set yourself against the world. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - * I would have to look back at the record, (too lazy to do so), but I think I admitted to that one room in which only LEAD agent Max would have witnessed the event. I also believe that I admitted to erasing a LEAD announcement that dominated the entire board and was about the Fall 2006 election which had already passed. My memory of the event is becomming rather dim due to my lack of caring. In any case, it matters very little because in reality I gave some janitor a favor. Keep it up on the public page and I will erase all LEAD messages in all classroms in my zeal to enforce university policy. I am not going to be looked upon as a villian when LEAD has done ten times worse. Fortunately for them I have to wait for the proper time to discuss such things. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - --<br> - ''2007-09-01 17:08:18'' [[nbsp]] ''Keep it up on the public page and I will erase all LEAD messages in all classroms in my zeal to enforce university policy.'' Your short trigger-finger for blackmail is impressive. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - * You assume I won't do it anyway with or without your cooperation. '''How about I hand over a video of LEAD chalking in the DC to the university.''' It's not blackmail, it's retaliation, and it's only because I am merciful at the moment that I don't go the next step forward as a prosecutor. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * I pity you and your bitterness. But it was you who sent the blackmail over those court cases, and it is you who just said that if the information remained on your public page you would do some retaliatory action - which is a threat. And then you do it AGAIN! ''How about I hand over a video of LEAD chalking in the DC to the university.'' Look up the definition of [wiki:wikipedia:Blackmail] and get a clue. Not that I care for ASUCD politics, more so since I am no longer in Davis, but I say go right ahead and hand over the video. Few at UCD will see your actions as meritorious, and I doubt that UCD would do anything about it - after all, they have all the evidence they need that LEAD chalks in the DC - '''there are LEAD chalk ads in the DC.'''<br> - At the risk of troll-baiting, I really have to expand my question and reiterate - how do you reconcile your beliefs about how it is ok to lie ''and'' blackmail to achieve your goals, with the beliefs that you wear on your sleeve? Why do you act directly in opposition to the belief systems that you espouse and try to push on the student government at UCD? - KJM<br> - * You will find that in politics on every level of government that deals, negotiations, and even what you would call threats are made everyday in order to acheive the greatest advantage for one's organization. In other words ASUCD is like a fun and exciting card game in which no one really knows what your cards are, everyone bluffs, and people put large personal stakes on the table. With Bobby Gray I lost that hand, but I would never in a thousand years wish to be in Bobby Gray's place in his life right now. You will find that if you knew what I knew you would see that I have used a lot of restraint in what I do. As such the acts I do are rather small to the acts I '''could''' do. Also I am merely using tactics that are only available to me in handling a corrupt system. As for the supposed lie, I don't remember what has been said in so many numerous occasions that this has come up. As for whether I have lied before, I will say that its best not to if you can help it. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - --<br> - ''2007-09-01 19:02:26'' [[nbsp]] Kinda ignored the direct question. So you lied because you don't consider it important? Oh I forgot, LEAD is the ultimate evil and all ends justify the means with you. --["Users/EdWins"]<br> - --<br> - ''2007-09-01 19:28:57'' [[nbsp]] You didn't answer my question, Steve. Give it another go, you have plenty of time. I didn't ask just what you thought of lying (and blackmail, let's not forget), but ''how you '''reconcile''' your tendency to do so with the publicly-held beliefs of yours that they contradict'' - and contradicting them ''in the process'' of trying to ''push'' those beliefs on others through the political process, no less!<br> - <br> - I might add that I have come across several people in my life whom I have had the misfortune to be on the other side of an issue with them, and at the same time, to have in my possession information about them that could ruin their reputation for good. But I have never thought once, to use that information for short-term political gain. Some day you have to realize that life is not a card game, and although the political goings and leavings of ASUCD matter little in the grand scheme of things, it shouldn't change the weight of your own principles in life. Moreover, the very fact that you're dealing with a "card game" as you put it should be all the more reason not to put a large personal stake on the table. When you're out of college, like high school drama, it will matter for nothing. Isn't there something greater in this world or the next than ASUCD? I still don't understand you. You're either a shrewd politico in fetal form who doesn't believe what he says so long as it will get him what he wants, or a self-parody, a hoax where not even yourself is in on the joke. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> - * Sigh...sometimes when you want to help others you get into compromising situations. Not everything is perfect, but I am not going to allow LEAD to break all the rules and never get caught and have that happen year after year. One person, Schwab should not have control over everything. Not everything I have done in past was the best move but it was a learning experience that greatly assists me today in future plans. If not for all of this stuff I have done I would not have allies I have today, nor would I have the future plans I hope to commit into action. But surely when the association is taken over by myself there will be lots of time to correct every mistake, and in fact elliminate such past mistakes from the record. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> - * Records of bad mistakes are socially expunged by time and good works, not by making veiled and open threats of retaliation against those who you have declared as enemies. Plotting and scheming like David Spade in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCU_(film) PCU] won't win the kinds of allies that you need to convince people of the worth of your ideas - it will only attract similar plotters. In fact, such scheming (e.g. your blackmailed court cases) is a subversion of democracy. You act as if you are powerless to do any else than the kinds of stuff you have been doing lately, but is only when the truth (about yourself, others), democracy, and ethics are artificially set against what you want that you "get into compromising situations."<br> - In addition to the powerlessness expressed, I almost detected a hint of regret. I'm still waiting on hearing about how you reconcile your publicly-held beliefs with your actions, if you do at all. - ["KarlMogel" KJM]<br> - ------</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 11:59:30EdWinstaking out the lines for clarity (one giant chunk of text) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 191: </td> <td> Line 191: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> --<span>----</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> -- </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 194: </td> <td> Line 194: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - </span> </td> <td> <span>+ --</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 199: </td> <td> Line 198: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> --<span>----</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> -- </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 205: </td> <td> Line 204: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - ------</span> </td> <td> <span>+ --</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 208: </td> <td> Line 206: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> --<span>----</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> -- </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 11:39:52KarlMogelhere's a shovelful <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 182: </td> <td> Line 182: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 183: </td> <td> Line 184: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 184: </td> <td> Line 186: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 185: </td> <td> Line 188: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + ===== Karl's Unanswered Questions =====<br> + ''(Note where Steve threatens blackmail against someone else in response to questioning him about blackmail.'''(BOLD)''')''<br> + ------<br> + ''2007-08-31 17:00:46'' [[nbsp]] I've just really got to know, Steve, why do you deny things you've admitted to, and try to delete them? I mean I know you want your public wiki page reflect well on you, but isn't that lying? Don't you believe that is wrong? How do you reconcile your beliefs and your actions, is what really fascinates me. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> + * The wiki is a grand experiment for me in researching what people want and need out of a system. So when false information is presented on the Wiki I let people think about it for a while and then elliminate it. How do you justify posting something on the Wiki without evidence or witnesses only because a rival faction on the campus says so? But in any case the chalking erasing, whether it was done or not is not in the scheme of things noteworthy. One could write an entire book on all my activities, but the Wiki is not a book. The chalking incident is being given too much space and indeed I am merciful enough to not degrade other people's profiles with their own ASUCD violations. I am hopeful the chalking paragraph will be erased and replaced with something more devious and noteworthy in the future. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> + ------<br> + <br> + ''2007-09-01 16:39:49'' [[nbsp]] What false information, Steve? You admitted to removing LEAD chalking, your own testimony did you in. Don't insult my and other people's intelligence, so I'll ask you again, why do you lie? Unless you can answer this question honestly, then you don't believe that lying is wrong, and you don't believe the beliefs that you would like to push on the student body with your 2-member slate.<br> + BTW - the world is not against you, so long as you don't set yourself against the world. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> + * I would have to look back at the record, (too lazy to do so), but I think I admitted to that one room in which only LEAD agent Max would have witnessed the event. I also believe that I admitted to erasing a LEAD announcement that dominated the entire board and was about the Fall 2006 election which had already passed. My memory of the event is becomming rather dim due to my lack of caring. In any case, it matters very little because in reality I gave some janitor a favor. Keep it up on the public page and I will erase all LEAD messages in all classroms in my zeal to enforce university policy. I am not going to be looked upon as a villian when LEAD has done ten times worse. Fortunately for them I have to wait for the proper time to discuss such things. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> + ------<br> + ''2007-09-01 17:08:18'' [[nbsp]] ''Keep it up on the public page and I will erase all LEAD messages in all classroms in my zeal to enforce university policy.'' Your short trigger-finger for blackmail is impressive. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> + * You assume I won't do it anyway with or without your cooperation. '''How about I hand over a video of LEAD chalking in the DC to the university.''' It's not blackmail, it's retaliation, and it's only because I am merciful at the moment that I don't go the next step forward as a prosecutor. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> + * I pity you and your bitterness. But it was you who sent the blackmail over those court cases, and it is you who just said that if the information remained on your public page you would do some retaliatory action - which is a threat. And then you do it AGAIN! ''How about I hand over a video of LEAD chalking in the DC to the university.'' Look up the definition of [wiki:wikipedia:Blackmail] and get a clue. Not that I care for ASUCD politics, more so since I am no longer in Davis, but I say go right ahead and hand over the video. Few at UCD will see your actions as meritorious, and I doubt that UCD would do anything about it - after all, they have all the evidence they need that LEAD chalks in the DC - '''there are LEAD chalk ads in the DC.'''<br> + At the risk of troll-baiting, I really have to expand my question and reiterate - how do you reconcile your beliefs about how it is ok to lie ''and'' blackmail to achieve your goals, with the beliefs that you wear on your sleeve? Why do you act directly in opposition to the belief systems that you espouse and try to push on the student government at UCD? - KJM<br> + * You will find that in politics on every level of government that deals, negotiations, and even what you would call threats are made everyday in order to acheive the greatest advantage for one's organization. In other words ASUCD is like a fun and exciting card game in which no one really knows what your cards are, everyone bluffs, and people put large personal stakes on the table. With Bobby Gray I lost that hand, but I would never in a thousand years wish to be in Bobby Gray's place in his life right now. You will find that if you knew what I knew you would see that I have used a lot of restraint in what I do. As such the acts I do are rather small to the acts I '''could''' do. Also I am merely using tactics that are only available to me in handling a corrupt system. As for the supposed lie, I don't remember what has been said in so many numerous occasions that this has come up. As for whether I have lied before, I will say that its best not to if you can help it. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> + <br> + ------<br> + ''2007-09-01 19:02:26'' [[nbsp]] Kinda ignored the direct question. So you lied because you don't consider it important? Oh I forgot, LEAD is the ultimate evil and all ends justify the means with you. --["Users/EdWins"]<br> + ------<br> + ''2007-09-01 19:28:57'' [[nbsp]] You didn't answer my question, Steve. Give it another go, you have plenty of time. I didn't ask just what you thought of lying (and blackmail, let's not forget), but ''how you '''reconcile''' your tendency to do so with the publicly-held beliefs of yours that they contradict'' - and contradicting them ''in the process'' of trying to ''push'' those beliefs on others through the political process, no less!<br> + <br> + I might add that I have come across several people in my life whom I have had the misfortune to be on the other side of an issue with them, and at the same time, to have in my possession information about them that could ruin their reputation for good. But I have never thought once, to use that information for short-term political gain. Some day you have to realize that life is not a card game, and although the political goings and leavings of ASUCD matter little in the grand scheme of things, it shouldn't change the weight of your own principles in life. Moreover, the very fact that you're dealing with a "card game" as you put it should be all the more reason not to put a large personal stake on the table. When you're out of college, like high school drama, it will matter for nothing. Isn't there something greater in this world or the next than ASUCD? I still don't understand you. You're either a shrewd politico in fetal form who doesn't believe what he says so long as it will get him what he wants, or a self-parody, a hoax where not even yourself is in on the joke. --["Users/KarlMogel"]<br> + * Sigh...sometimes when you want to help others you get into compromising situations. Not everything is perfect, but I am not going to allow LEAD to break all the rules and never get caught and have that happen year after year. One person, Schwab should not have control over everything. Not everything I have done in past was the best move but it was a learning experience that greatly assists me today in future plans. If not for all of this stuff I have done I would not have allies I have today, nor would I have the future plans I hope to commit into action. But surely when the association is taken over by myself there will be lots of time to correct every mistake, and in fact elliminate such past mistakes from the record. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]<br> + * Records of bad mistakes are socially expunged by time and good works, not by making veiled and open threats of retaliation against those who you have declared as enemies. Plotting and scheming like David Spade in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCU_(film) PCU] won't win the kinds of allies that you need to convince people of the worth of your ideas - it will only attract similar plotters. In fact, such scheming (e.g. your blackmailed court cases) is a subversion of democracy. You act as if you are powerless to do any else than the kinds of stuff you have been doing lately, but is only when the truth (about yourself, others), democracy, and ethics are artificially set against what you want that you "get into compromising situations."<br> + In addition to the powerlessness expressed, I almost detected a hint of regret. I'm still waiting on hearing about how you reconcile your publicly-held beliefs with your actions, if you do at all. - ["KarlMogel" KJM]<br> + ------</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 11:34:23KarlMogelComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 180: </td> <td> Line 180: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 12:34:23'' [[nbsp]] Good afternoon, Steve. I just got back from a bit of Life(R). Nice to see that you're found a contradiction where one isn't. I've known that you and ["Users/GabeKoulikov" Gabe] are friends, and have interacted with him through SFL, but what I did not know was that the two of you are now roomies as of this month of thereabouts. Therefore, when you and Gabe were editing at the same time from the same IP Address, it seemed that you were trying to use him to do the edits you want - as a cover, doing an edit powwow from the same location. On top of that, I blew my top at the fact that while editing together, you set up another sockpuppet account, and so it was obvious that he knew that - and it seems from his response to the whole thing - you dragged him into it and he has backed off from responsibility. Perhaps, as he hasn't done much wiki editing, he didn't know about the rules about sockpuppetry, so it seems you dragged him into it. There's your misunderstanding.<br> + However, you're the one who came up with the strawman idea that folks on the Davis Wiki (myself included) thought that there was some sort of "schism" between you two - no one suggested that except you. Instead, several of us reacted warmly to Gabe for outing your SFL power grab (if you can call running an inactive club power) ''given the fact that the two of you are on good terms.'' - That showed substantial guts and honesty about it on his part.<br> + So there's no contradiction between thanking Gabe for his honesty, and misunderstanding his involvement in helping you try to circumvent the SFL page lock on your account(s). But I've got a better one for your personal page - and I know you love juicy gossip. How about the time when I asked you last week about your attempts at blackmail, and then while denying that you blackmail people, you blackmailed LEAD in response? (Strange, because I have no connection to LEAD) Great stuff! Don't remember? I'll fill you in on it in a moment.<br> + Just try not to lose much sleep over the Davis Wiki. Looking at your edits I can't figure out whether you're on California Time, Japan Time, or if you're sleeping on Zimbabwe's clock. You'll probably forget all about it years down the road. Except if you ever run for political office. --["Users/KarlMogel"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 09:09:40SteveOstrowskifixing counts <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 49: </td> <td> Line 49: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> 142 Edits by LEAD 2<span>2</span>% </td> <td> <span>+</span> 142 Edits by LEAD 2<span>3</span>% </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 53: </td> <td> Line 53: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> 9 Edits by other allies some of which are probably sock puppets of Ostrowski 1.<span>4</span>%<br> <span>-</span> 1<span>8</span>4 by Neutrals <span>30</span>% + Lewis= <span>4</span>3% total </td> <td> <span>+</span> 9 Edits by other allies some of which are probably sock puppets of Ostrowski 1.<span>5</span>%<br> <span>+</span> 1<span>4</span>4 by Neutrals <span>24</span>% + Lewis= 3<span>7</span>% total </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 57: </td> <td> Line 57: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> LEAD + Lewis= 3<span>5</span>% </td> <td> <span>+</span> LEAD + Lewis= 3<span>6</span>% </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 65: </td> <td> Line 65: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Neutral:<span>4</span>7% </td> <td> <span>+</span> Neutral:<span>3</span>7% </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 67: </td> <td> Line 67: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + <br> + Removing Revert Williams out of the stats<br> + <br> + LEAD 46%<br> + Allies 8%<br> + Neutral 46%<br> + <br> + Total: 311</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 08:19:54SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 36: </td> <td> Line 36: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> =Bla<span>n</span>tent Contradiction of the Week= </td> <td> <span>+</span> =Blatent Contradiction of the Week= </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 40: </td> <td> Line 40: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Hi Gabe, thanks for spilling the beans on the Steve Ostrowski page. He's been playing games with the facts for some time on the wiki, and his reaction to your comment may have pushed the other editors over the edge with regard to his status as a user of the wiki. It would be nice while checking the recent changes page, to not have to see him clogging it up with still more re-wordings of meaningless puppet pages of his. Once again, it can be about Davis! ["Karl<span>&nbsp;</span>Mogel"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> Hi Gabe, thanks for spilling the beans on the Steve Ostrowski page. He's been playing games with the facts for some time on the wiki, and his reaction to your comment may have pushed the other editors over the edge with regard to his status as a user of the wiki. It would be nice while checking the recent changes page, to not have to see him clogging it up with still more re-wordings of meaningless puppet pages of his. Once again, it can be about Davis! ["KarlMogel"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 08:18:55SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 35: </td> <td> Line 35: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + =Blantent Contradiction of the Week=<br> + <br> + Steve's gives the winner to Karl for being an ignorant political opportunist.<br> + <br> + Hi Gabe, thanks for spilling the beans on the Steve Ostrowski page. He's been playing games with the facts for some time on the wiki, and his reaction to your comment may have pushed the other editors over the edge with regard to his status as a user of the wiki. It would be nice while checking the recent changes page, to not have to see him clogging it up with still more re-wordings of meaningless puppet pages of his. Once again, it can be about Davis! ["Karl Mogel"]<br> + <br> + One Day Later<br> + <br> + Ah, nevermind. You were very aware - the both of you have the same IP Address - which means you're probably in the same room, if not using the same computer. I'm rather disappointed that you've become a party to Steve abusing the wiki. What I wonder is, why didn't you cut out the middle-man and have Steve edit through your account and try to fool everyone that way? —["KarlMogel"]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 08:10:39SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 61: </td> <td> Line 61: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/09/leads-hold-on-davis-wiki-ii.html LEAD's Hold on Davis Wiki II]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 07:39:50SteveOstrowskisleep deprived <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 47: </td> <td> Line 47: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Steven Ostrowsk= 35% (Was Banned from Editing Public Page) </td> <td> <span>+</span> Steven Ostrowsk<span>i</span>= 35% (Was Banned from Editing Public Page) </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 07:39:21SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 39: </td> <td> Line 39: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> 82 Edits by William Lewis 13% </td> <td> <span>+</span> 82 Edits by William Lewis 13%<span>&nbsp;(Steve's Biographer)</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 44: </td> <td> Line 44: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ 608 Edits Total</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 46: </td> <td> Line 47: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Steven Ostrowsk+ 35%</span> </td> <td> <span>+ Steven Ostrowsk= 35% (Was Banned from Editing Public Page)</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 55: </td> <td> Line 56: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + <br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 07:36:58SteveOstrowskiFor your consideration <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 36: </td> <td> Line 36: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ =Who Edits Steve Ostrowski's Public Page?=</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 37: </td> <td> Line 38: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ 142 Edits by LEAD 22%<br> + 82 Edits by William Lewis 13%<br> + 16 Edits by Ally Joseph Bleckman 2.6%<br> + 215 Edits by Steve Ostrowski 35% (Ostrowski’s edits to his own public page is 35% and Schwabs is 33%)<br> + 9 Edits by other allies some of which are probably sock puppets of Ostrowski 1.4%<br> + 184 by Neutrals 30% + Lewis= 43% total</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 38: </td> <td> Line 45: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ LEAD + Lewis= 35%<br> + Steven Ostrowsk+ 35%<br> + <br> + Theoretical model: Steve plays dead while others edit his public page<br> + <br> + LEAD 36%<br> + Lewis 21%<br> + Allies: 6%<br> + Neutral:47%<br> + 393 Edits Total 100%</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 03:21:24GregWebbComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 131: </td> <td> Line 131: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-09 04:21:24'' [[nbsp]] I read your blog on Davis Wiki/LEAD. It was pretty interesting, I don't really pay attention to the stats and thought you and William totaled 90% of the edits.<br> + <br> + There might be something there but having a lot of edits might be an indicator of a person who is very active within the community. Brent Laabs for example is an active, knowledgeable person who can contribute a lot to the wiki. To discredit all of his or other members' edits as "spin" is a bad approach. When you use total numbers in your analysis, that's what you're doing.<br> + <br> + And I agree with you about NPOV, to some degree. --["Users/GregWebb"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-09 02:57:41SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 40: </td> <td> Line 40: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + [http://theempirenation.blogspot.com/2007/09/leads-hold-on-davis-wiki.html LEAD's Hold on Davis Wiki]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 23:52:39SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 32: </td> <td> Line 32: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- =Public Page=</span> </td> <td> <span>+ =Activities=</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 34: </td> <td> Line 34: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- Due to Steve's immense power and glory he has a public page. Often disputes concerning the public page are settled peacefully. See Public Page: ["Steve Ostrowski"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ I host a public affairs show on KDVS called the Empire Nation. I had a [http://169.237.101.62/archives/Steve%20Empire%20-%20The%20Empire%20Nation%20(128kbps).m3u talk] with Gabe Koulikov on Pro Life issues.<br> + <br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 22:13:57JessicaRockwellcan you show me a link proving this? <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 126: </td> <td> Line 126: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * can you show me a link proving this? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 22:08:14SteveOstrowskiComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 124: </td> <td> Line 124: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-08 23:08:14'' [[nbsp]] Black Panther Party is defunct, doesn't exist, is dead. The new groups from 1987 is the New Black Panther Party. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 22:06:13JessicaRockwellComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 122: </td> <td> Line 122: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-08 23:06:13'' [[nbsp]] what do you mean the official name? --["Users/JessicaRockwell"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 21:50:17SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 121: </td> <td> Line 121: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Tis cursed I say! I hesitate to upgrade it to a level beyond 10 as I consider a level 10 on the border of illegal activity. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 21:24:57WeMoComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 119: </td> <td> Line 119: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-08 22:24:57'' [[nbsp]] Please your shady level is much higher than a 9.6 and that Wiki drink picture of yourself is what started that whole mess.... lol --["Users/WeMo"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 19:53:37SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 118: </td> <td> Line 118: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- * Don't bother Steve. Hopefully, you'll be banned soon enough. Really, you didn't think violating federal law was an offense? --["Users/BrentLaabs"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ * Sometimes it is difficult to tell the difference but I will make a list if I see them. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 19:48:23BrentLaabsComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 118: </td> <td> Line 118: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Don't bother Steve. Hopefully, you'll be banned soon enough. Really, you didn't think violating federal law was an offense? --["Users/BrentLaabs"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 19:36:51JasonAller <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 117: </td> <td> Line 117: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * See ["Copyrights"]. Can you start putting together a list of pages that have graphics that you've spotted that need verification or replacement? --["Users/JasonAller"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 19:22:17SteveOstrowskiComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 115: </td> <td> Line 115: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-08 20:22:17'' [[nbsp]] There are a lot of pages that have image problems then, is there a guide for it? --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 19:05:12JasonAllerComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 113: </td> <td> Line 113: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-08 20:05:12'' [[nbsp]] The concern with the images on the ["UC Davis Police Department"] page is that it looks like one came from their site and the other came from [http://aggiefamilypack.ucdavis.edu/1003/safety_tips.html] which makes them content that you can't release as Creative Commons licensed. Can you remove them? I'll take some photos at the police department this next week for the page. --["Users/JasonAller"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 18:55:19JasonAllerfixed format <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 28: </td> <td> Line 28: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''You Tube''' http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=empirestv </td> <td> <span>+</span> <span>'</span>''You Tube''' http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=empirestv </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 18:54:53JasonAllerComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 111: </td> <td> Line 111: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-08 19:54:53'' [[nbsp]] Was the police_murphy.jpg graphic pulled from the UC Davis Police website? --["Users/JasonAller"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-08 02:10:50SteveOstrowskiadding you tube link <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 27: </td> <td> Line 27: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + ''You Tube''' http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=empirestv</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-07 17:02:25KarlMogelminor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 108: </td> <td> Line 108: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2007-09-07 18:02:01'' [[nbsp]] Add the link to your personal page here, or a talk page, and I'll be happy to add it to your page. --["Users/KarlMogel"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2007-09-07 18:02:01'' [[nbsp]] Add the<span>&nbsp;show</span> link to your personal page here, or a talk page, and I'll be happy to add it to your <span>empire nation </span>page. --["Users/KarlMogel"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-07 17:02:01KarlMogelComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 107: </td> <td> Line 107: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-07 18:02:01'' [[nbsp]] Add the link to your personal page here, or a talk page, and I'll be happy to add it to your page. --["Users/KarlMogel"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-07 16:03:46SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> '''Name:''' Steven Ostrowski aka DJ Steve Empire, Dark Lord of Liberalism, Dictator of Relativism, Voice of the Progressive Coalition, and Progressive Attack Machine </td> <td> <span>+</span> '''Name:''' Steven Ostrowski aka DJ Steve Empire, Dark Lord of Liberalism, Dictator of Relativism, Voice of the Progressive Coalition, and Progressive Attack Machine<span>, and has a Shady Level of 9.6.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-07 11:47:19BrentLaabsi love big brother too <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 106: </td> <td> Line 106: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * That makes sense. '''Ignorance is Strength''' is an acceptable answer. --["Users/BrentLaabs"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-07 11:42:21SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 105: </td> <td> Line 105: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * I am not going to answer your question, I will do what I wish with my own youtube account. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-07 11:35:51BrentLaabsComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 103: </td> <td> Line 103: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-07 12:35:51'' [[nbsp]] Why did you take the youtube videos down? --["Users/BrentLaabs"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-06 07:02:48JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 102: </td> <td> Line 102: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * ''But what does it mean? I have no idea what the heck "Donation: Name of Group" means. Does that mean that you can donate to them? Write checks to that name? They give out donations? It is content free to those without additional information. It is so vague as to warrant either deletion or explanation. That is why it went on the Talk page, to try and gather the rationale for it being there. Your militancy regarding control has really become self-defeating at this point, Steve... I'm trying to get useful information to help improve the entry. Believe it or not, there are still people who don't care who edits what, they just want to improve the content of the wiki.'' --["Users/JabberWokky"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-06 06:22:32SteveOstrowskiComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 100: </td> <td> Line 100: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 07:22:32'' [[nbsp]] The donation information is accurate, it cannot be proven otherwise. The fact that it was made a discussion item is beyond me. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-06 05:58:32JabberWokkyComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 98: </td> <td> Line 98: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 06:58:32'' [[nbsp]] Steve, I asked about the Donations line last night, and it was the reason that the Talk page was created. If you are truly unwilling to communicate with other editors, rather than just defending your ideas, there is a serious problem here. At a certain point, your robotic reverts without discussion do constitute abuse of the wiki rather than an editorial position. --["Users/JabberWokky"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:56:53BradBenedictRevert to version 549 (To make the baby stop crying). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 98: </td> <td> Line 98: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 00:53:27'' [[nbsp]] Geez, I guess you're a crybaby WITHOUT a sense of humor.<br> - <br> - Waaaaaaaaaaah, I'm Steve Ostrowski. Penis penis penis! --["Users/BradBenedict"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:55:13BradBenedictRevert to version 548 (Because you're a stupid crybaby. Penis. Like I didn't expect you to revert.. ). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 98: </td> <td> Line 98: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 00:53:27'' [[nbsp]] Geez, I guess you're a crybaby WITHOUT a sense of humor.<br> + <br> + Waaaaaaaaaaah, I'm Steve Ostrowski. Penis penis penis! --["Users/BradBenedict"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:53:59SteveOstrowskiRevert to version 547 (I am banning all of your comments for today). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 98: </td> <td> Line 98: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 00:53:27'' [[nbsp]] Geez, I guess you're a crybaby WITHOUT a sense of humor.<br> - <br> - Waaaaaaaaaaah, I'm Steve Ostrowski. Penis penis penis! --["Users/BradBenedict"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:53:27BradBenedictComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 98: </td> <td> Line 98: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 00:53:27'' [[nbsp]] Geez, I guess you're a crybaby WITHOUT a sense of humor.<br> + <br> + Waaaaaaaaaaah, I'm Steve Ostrowski. Penis penis penis! --["Users/BradBenedict"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:49:43SteveOstrowskiRevert to version 544. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 98: </td> <td> Line 98: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 00:41:05'' [[nbsp]] Eat some more pills, pill head. --["Users/BradBenedict"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:47:46KarlMogelg'night Steve. Don't stay up all night reverting. Hug a teddy bear. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p>No differences found!</div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:47:27BradBenedictRevert to version 543 (eat some more pills, pill head, HAHAHA Marduk). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 98: </td> <td> Line 98: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 00:41:05'' [[nbsp]] Eat some more pills, pill head. --["Users/BradBenedict"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:45:08SteveOstrowskiRevert to version 542. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 98: </td> <td> Line 98: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------<br> - ''2007-09-06 00:41:05'' [[nbsp]] Eat some more pills, pill head. --["Users/BradBenedict"]</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:41:05BradBenedictComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 98: </td> <td> Line 98: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 00:41:05'' [[nbsp]] Eat some more pills, pill head. --["Users/BradBenedict"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:33:32SteveOstrowskiComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 96: </td> <td> Line 96: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 00:33:32'' [[nbsp]] Actually due to my schedule this is early for me, I don't see myself calling it a "night" until long after all of you are asleep. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:29:07JabberWokkyComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 94: </td> <td> Line 94: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 00:29:07'' [[nbsp]] Steve, it might be a good idea to call it a night and start again tomorrow. --["Users/JabberWokky"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:21:42KarlMogelComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 92: </td> <td> Line 92: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 00:21:42'' [[nbsp]] Yes, but to create a mob, you need more than one person. You drive people away, even from your own causes! I still think you're a self-parody. --["Users/KarlMogel"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:07:09SteveOstrowskiComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 90: </td> <td> Line 90: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 00:07:09'' [[nbsp]] It really doesn't take much to create a mob. Anyone can do it, I have just haven't entertained the idea of creating my own. --["Users/SteveOstrowski"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:05:39SteveOstrowski <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [[Image(Stevei<span>nblac</span>k.JPG, thumbnail)]] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [[Image(Steve<span>'s W</span>ik<span>i</span>.JPG, thumbnail)]] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:05:12JasonAllerComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Users/SteveOstrowski<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 88: </td> <td> Line 88: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-09-06 00:05:12'' [[nbsp]] Well, it looks like the villagers have their pitchforks and torches out and are coming for you. You should have been nicer to those who might have headed off the mob. --["Users/JasonAller"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Users/SteveOstrowskihttp://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski2007-09-05 23:01:02SteveOstrowskiUpload of image <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Users/SteveOstrowski?action=Files&do=view&target=Steve%27s%20Wiki.JPG">Steve's Wiki.JPG</a>.