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Is a former Davis resident, current West Sacramento resident who still visits Davis for the food and the weirdness.

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2010-01-21 15:27:11   Just as a note, based on Wes' edit history, it may take a couple days before he reads that... not everybody follows the wiki as much as some of us do. :) Although I'm guessing he's checking it about once a day lately. —Evan 'JabberWokky' Edwards


2010-01-26 11:33:34   Looking at [WWW]philip's edit, I don't see anything objectionable. Daubert's comment was of no real substance there, so it was removed. Normally, it's a no-no to edit someone else's comment. However, the comment that Doug wrote stands on it's own without the reference to Daubert's now removed comment and it wasn't really harmed. —WilliamLewis


2010-01-26 11:36:32   I just think it's a slippery slope. There was a pointless comment, but then there was a good response. Why edit out the pointless comment AND edit the good response to create a net zero gain, you're still left with one good comment, but it's now not the comment the original poster lefts, but it's still signed by that poster. I don't see the point. —rfrazier

Damnit, my comments are not pointless regardless of content. I said what I meant and I attributed it to myself. —StevenDaubert


2010-01-26 11:38:17   As a wiki, all text is editable by anyone, including comments. Comments are generally not edited by other editors by convention, but its just a convention. —NickSchmalenberger


2010-01-26 11:40:49   If you're comfortable changing someone's statement but keeping it attributed to them, I guess you can edit however you want. Personally I don't agree, but I'm not going to engage in CovertProfessor's habit of unilaterally undoing the edit because I don't agree with it. —rfrazier


2010-01-26 12:25:58   I'm not sure that asexuality is a sexual practice analogous to bdsm and such. I'm not really up on all this sex geekery, but isn't asexuality more of a sexual orientation, akin to heterosexuality, homosexuality, and bisexuality? —WilliamLewis


2010-01-26 12:59:47   Ah! I JUST FIGURED OUT YOUR MISSING PIECE OF INFORMATION!!!. The wiki is a *community*. That's a special thing, and you are welcome to be part of it. Take pride in it, and feel free to grumble when your neighbors all decide to pave a sidewalk down your road... that might not be what you wanted, but you are part of the community. One neighbor might decide to paint his house black and purple. Grumble all you want about that neighbor (or maybe you *are* that neighbor). If enough people gripe, maybe he'll paint it back. Maybe a good friend lives down the street and you head over there to have iced tea and watch his daughter play in the back yard as you chat about the new burger place downtown. That's cool too. But the end of it all is (mostly) civil behavior, everybody figuring out how to get along with all their neighbors. And no hope of all the neighbors ever agreeing on anything completely. It takes awhile to figure out the traditions when you move in, and everybody has different advice. So yeah... you're getting different advice, different views, different takes. This is a community. You are welcome here, but expect that some people will grumble at you if you set your BBQ grill in the sidewalk when you cook out in your front yard, and expect lots of appreciation if you help set up that basketball hoop in the cul-de-sac or clean up some vandalism in the corner park. You'll probably even make some friends — who will have views you don't agree with. And above all, you'll get lots and lots of contradicting advice and actions from all your neighbors. But it's a community of people all working together, so that's just part of how it works. There are plenty of traditions and some people are more visibly active than others, but everybody can pipe up if they want. Welcome to the wiki, an odd little neighborhood (like they all are) of Davis. —JabberWokky


2010-01-26 13:44:52   Now if you hate second level headings without first level headings as much as I do..... =) —WilliamLewis


2010-01-26 14:15:50   I wrote a really long comment but I x'd my browser out. Regarding the link, it's really not about the conflict. Cross-linking between businesses is common and is a wiki thing. There used to be a huge wiki war between Urban Body and Primary Concepts Tattooing & Body Piercing which was started by a former employee or something, where one business owner kept adding fake reviews and all kinds of trouble. Similarly, it's very common for salons and hairstylists. Check out the text above and below on Roxie at David's Haircutting. Or on an active business, you'd see something like [WWW]"looking for" commentary. Now, clearly Wes isn't exactly the same as a stylist in terms of service. But the wiki's also documented restaurant managers, bartenders, etc. There's two reasons to keep the link between the two: 1 - as JW mentioned, perhaps he is someone's "comic book guy." I imagine that might not mean anything to someone who buys comics at 7-11, but if you went in to talk to him about games and comics or whatever, it might mean something indeed. This is evident in point 2 - he's independently mentioned in both wiki pages. At least one comment mentions him by name on the BW page, a comment that's not 'suspect', and someone on the Drom's page asks if it's the "same Wes." To people in the game leagues or whatever they are, it might make a difference. But I think both of these are valid reasons (general wiki action, and informational context that correlates with specific comments). The real point here is: that link's not there because of this specific conflict. It's not unique to this situation. It's something that's done regularly. And as a side point, on one talk page Wes said he only keeps removing it because it's not on the BW page, and if it is, he'll stop. It's only fair if both sides have it, which is why some people are insistent on readding it. This comment's just meant as a contextual reply to what you said on the talk page about it. —EdWins


2010-01-26 14:49:59   I believe that would make them simply nudists at that point. :) —JabberWokky


2010-01-26 16:10:40   Hey, you said "I really hope that nobody reading the comments section here", and I thought you should be aware that Talk pages are traditionally deleted after the edit discussion is over (some linger out there, usually because the discussion trailed off). For instance, I just proposed a page split on Geography Graduate Group/Talk. People seem to be in favor of it, and when it's done, the Talk page will be deleted. The same will likely occur soon for the Bizarro World/Talk page, as the discussion there only has to do with the wiki, and not with Davis itself. —JabberWokky


2010-01-28 19:44:11   This is the last time I am going to say this Ryan. I have never used a sockpuppet for any dang thing and I am getting very tired of both you and Dan accusing me of such. Zip it. If I wanted to truly trash Dan's shop I have much better ways to do it with the knowledge I have than to post bs under assumed names here on the wiki. Grow up and stop accusing people of crap you can't prove. I made the edits you asked because it was rude to leave it on the droms page with the asterisk. I have made concessions. Time to see some balance out there. I know you are Dan's close friend. That's fine. but you and I both know that A) your comments were based entirely on that relationship and not the stores since you had no problems with any of the selections I made for you while working for Bizarro World but after coming to droms to help my friends, you suddenly think I am the worst comic guy in the industry. Fine. I don't want to get into a flame war. You have your reasons for doing this stuff, I suggest you do exactly hat has been suggested by many and take the Wiki Chill pill and finally grow up a bit and stop this baseless accusation crap. You have done nothing to positively influence anyone or anything on the wiki and have been nothing but insulting to all concerned accusing me, accusing covertprofessor of editing at a whim and anyone else who doesn't agree with you or Dan. I'm tired of it, The editorial staff is tired of it and I'm fairly sure even you must be tiring of this at this point in time so drop it. —WesOne


2010-01-28 20:10:16   At first glance, it does look like Kyle2008 and WesOne were using the same computer. Now that I look more carefully, I'm not so sure.

Kyle's edit history:
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Wes' edit history around the same time:
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2010-01-31 18:27:17   mhmmm, Por quĂ©? —OliviaY


2010-02-03 19:20:39   I think so, too, re: your "bb" comment on the ch page. That's why I alluded to the history of the page, but I didn't really want to bring that up because I don't want to air their dirty laundry. It looks to me like people were trying to "delete" T even before he left. That makes me not inclined to go along with it now. People's internal squabbles should not be a wiki affair, imo. —CovertProfessor


2010-02-06 14:38:47   it had another name before it was sold and renamed posh —StevenDaubert


2010-03-05 09:58:15   Looks like a pretty good edit to RC... be prepared for a shitstorm, though! —TomGarberson


2010-03-05 10:03:16   I think I might have just ROFLCOPTERed! —TomGarberson


2010-03-05 10:33:39   [WWW]Exactly. And yet for criticizing him, I get called "anti-business" or people say that I have a personal beef with him. —CovertProfessor


2010-03-08 09:59:37   LOL yeah... he is impressively consistent, isn't he? —TomGarberson


2010-03-08 10:15:08   Stick around for a few years and you'll quickly see there's always an "issue of the month" and "issue of the year" on the wiki. Brian is definitely shaping up to be the latter. Anyway, there's always been constant rotation of random conflict, controversy or what have you, especially on election years. Unfortunately, usually the focus subjects of it are either pretty new to the wiki or drawn to the wiki because of hearing about it. Inevitably, almost every person takes it quite personal which is totally understandable, or assumes it's all scheming by competitors, which tends to be frustrating for everybody. —EdWins

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