Recent Changes for "Wiki Community/2012-03" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-03Recent Changes of the page "Wiki Community/2012-03" on Davis Wiki.en-us Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-23 22:23:06FixingAliGhorbanzadehsMessesRevert to version 5. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- * Under the lack of SOPA bill everything is permitted!<br> - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act<br> - "It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users and arm them with misinformation", and "it's very difficult to counter the misinformation when the disseminators also own the platform."<br> - <br> - </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 26: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - <br> - * I am new to this wiki community and trying to gain an understanding of the issues at hand. It seems that it is only one user '''Tom Garberson''' that there is an issue. Seems very personal in that he believes he is being accused of being a '''child molester'''. Tom has also been accused of being an '''evil person, theif and child beater.''''<br> - <br> - <br> - I did some further google research and see that there are other users that have had their rifts with Tom. He seems to also be belive to having a behavior of quickly drawing conclusions without any facts as well accusing several businesses for being shady based of heresay.<br> - <br> - Some results:<br> - http://daviswiki.org/Users/BrianOrr/Talk<br> - http://daviswiki.org/Davis_Bike_Exchange?action=diff&amp;version2=108&amp;version1=107<br> - * Wow, I just read the comments about this place, and... wow. Sounds incredibly shady and unbelievably rude. Why does anyone still shop here? --["Users/TomGarberson"]<br> - <br> - <br> - http://daviswiki.org/Users/BrianOrr/Talk?action=diff&amp;version2=10&amp;version1=9<br> - *All I did was tell Tom Garberson to call the Enterprise and ask them why there seemed to be a paywall. --["Users/BrianOrr"]<br> - <br> - <br> - http://daviswiki.org/Greystone?action=diff&amp;version2=191&amp;version1=190<br> - Is it mentioned in the lease itself? If not, that's pretty shady. --["Users/TomGarberson"]<br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - http://daviswiki.org/Tour_de_Cluck?action=diff&amp;version2=17&amp;version1=16<br> - 2011-03-08 11:20:33 Are there any sanitation/safety precautions taken in going from coop to coop? In all seriousness, it's entirely possible that this could spread disease. —TomGarberson<br> - <br> - <br> - bad religion tabs - 1click.com<br> - <br> - www.1click.com/about/bad-religion-tabs<br> - For example I can simply say '''Tom Garberson''', you're such an evil person, why did you steal mary's purse and beat her 7-year old grandkid? Moreover, Tom is a...</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-23 19:41:40JohnGalt2No SOPA for you <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Under the lack of SOPA bill everything is permitted!<br> + http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act<br> + "It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users and arm them with misinformation", and "it's very difficult to counter the misinformation when the disseminators also own the platform."<br> + <br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-23 19:40:02JohnGalt2Revert to version 6 (Jackassery). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + <br> + * I am new to this wiki community and trying to gain an understanding of the issues at hand. It seems that it is only one user '''Tom Garberson''' that there is an issue. Seems very personal in that he believes he is being accused of being a '''child molester'''. Tom has also been accused of being an '''evil person, theif and child beater.''''<br> + <br> + <br> + I did some further google research and see that there are other users that have had their rifts with Tom. He seems to also be belive to having a behavior of quickly drawing conclusions without any facts as well accusing several businesses for being shady based of heresay.<br> + <br> + Some results:<br> + http://daviswiki.org/Users/BrianOrr/Talk<br> + http://daviswiki.org/Davis_Bike_Exchange?action=diff&amp;version2=108&amp;version1=107<br> + * Wow, I just read the comments about this place, and... wow. Sounds incredibly shady and unbelievably rude. Why does anyone still shop here? --["Users/TomGarberson"]<br> + <br> + <br> + http://daviswiki.org/Users/BrianOrr/Talk?action=diff&amp;version2=10&amp;version1=9<br> + *All I did was tell Tom Garberson to call the Enterprise and ask them why there seemed to be a paywall. --["Users/BrianOrr"]<br> + <br> + <br> + http://daviswiki.org/Greystone?action=diff&amp;version2=191&amp;version1=190<br> + Is it mentioned in the lease itself? If not, that's pretty shady. --["Users/TomGarberson"]<br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + http://daviswiki.org/Tour_de_Cluck?action=diff&amp;version2=17&amp;version1=16<br> + 2011-03-08 11:20:33 Are there any sanitation/safety precautions taken in going from coop to coop? In all seriousness, it's entirely possible that this could spread disease. —TomGarberson<br> + <br> + <br> + bad religion tabs - 1click.com<br> + <br> + www.1click.com/about/bad-religion-tabs<br> + For example I can simply say '''Tom Garberson''', you're such an evil person, why did you steal mary's purse and beat her 7-year old grandkid? Moreover, Tom is a...</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-23 18:23:00jsbmebRevert to version 5 (Garbage doesn't belong here). <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - <br> - * I am new to this wiki community and trying to gain an understanding of the issues at hand. It seems that it is only one user '''Tom Garberson''' that there is an issue. Seems very personal in that he believes he is being accused of being a '''child molester'''. Tom has also been accused of being an '''evil person, theif and child beater.''''<br> - <br> - <br> - I did some further google research and see that there are other users that have had their rifts with Tom. He seems to also be belive to having a behavior of quickly drawing conclusions without any facts as well accusing several businesses for being shady based of heresay.<br> - <br> - Some results:<br> - http://daviswiki.org/Users/BrianOrr/Talk<br> - http://daviswiki.org/Davis_Bike_Exchange?action=diff&amp;version2=108&amp;version1=107<br> - * Wow, I just read the comments about this place, and... wow. Sounds incredibly shady and unbelievably rude. Why does anyone still shop here? --["Users/TomGarberson"]<br> - <br> - <br> - http://daviswiki.org/Users/BrianOrr/Talk?action=diff&amp;version2=10&amp;version1=9<br> - *All I did was tell Tom Garberson to call the Enterprise and ask them why there seemed to be a paywall. --["Users/BrianOrr"]<br> - <br> - <br> - http://daviswiki.org/Greystone?action=diff&amp;version2=191&amp;version1=190<br> - Is it mentioned in the lease itself? If not, that's pretty shady. --["Users/TomGarberson"]<br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - <br> - http://daviswiki.org/Tour_de_Cluck?action=diff&amp;version2=17&amp;version1=16<br> - 2011-03-08 11:20:33 Are there any sanitation/safety precautions taken in going from coop to coop? In all seriousness, it's entirely possible that this could spread disease. —TomGarberson<br> - <br> - <br> - bad religion tabs - 1click.com<br> - <br> - www.1click.com/about/bad-religion-tabs<br> - For example I can simply say '''Tom Garberson''', you're such an evil person, why did you steal mary's purse and beat her 7-year old grandkid? Moreover, Tom is a...</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-23 17:42:50JohnGaltissues at hand <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + <br> + * I am new to this wiki community and trying to gain an understanding of the issues at hand. It seems that it is only one user '''Tom Garberson''' that there is an issue. Seems very personal in that he believes he is being accused of being a '''child molester'''. Tom has also been accused of being an '''evil person, theif and child beater.''''<br> + <br> + <br> + I did some further google research and see that there are other users that have had their rifts with Tom. He seems to also be belive to having a behavior of quickly drawing conclusions without any facts as well accusing several businesses for being shady based of heresay.<br> + <br> + Some results:<br> + http://daviswiki.org/Users/BrianOrr/Talk<br> + http://daviswiki.org/Davis_Bike_Exchange?action=diff&amp;version2=108&amp;version1=107<br> + * Wow, I just read the comments about this place, and... wow. Sounds incredibly shady and unbelievably rude. Why does anyone still shop here? --["Users/TomGarberson"]<br> + <br> + <br> + http://daviswiki.org/Users/BrianOrr/Talk?action=diff&amp;version2=10&amp;version1=9<br> + *All I did was tell Tom Garberson to call the Enterprise and ask them why there seemed to be a paywall. --["Users/BrianOrr"]<br> + <br> + <br> + http://daviswiki.org/Greystone?action=diff&amp;version2=191&amp;version1=190<br> + Is it mentioned in the lease itself? If not, that's pretty shady. --["Users/TomGarberson"]<br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + http://daviswiki.org/Tour_de_Cluck?action=diff&amp;version2=17&amp;version1=16<br> + 2011-03-08 11:20:33 Are there any sanitation/safety precautions taken in going from coop to coop? In all seriousness, it's entirely possible that this could spread disease. —TomGarberson<br> + <br> + <br> + bad religion tabs - 1click.com<br> + <br> + www.1click.com/about/bad-religion-tabs<br> + For example I can simply say '''Tom Garberson''', you're such an evil person, why did you steal mary's purse and beat her 7-year old grandkid? Moreover, Tom is a...</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-23 12:36:05EdWins(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 6: </td> <td> Line 6: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Agreed. -ES</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-22 20:43:01TomGarberson <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 6: </td> <td> Line 6: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ----<br> + Because I have been informed, vicariously, that I am being threatened with a lawsuit, I would prefer to keep a documentary record of everything that happens here involving Ali Ghorbanzadeh, the user sritern (who, based on a phone call to my employer, appears to be Ali), or anyone else associated with Boardwalk Apartments. Because memory holing removes the record completely from the server, I'd prefer to avoid it unless the full contents of the page and the page info is first saved (e.g. print to PDF).<br> + <br> + I've been contacted by a couple of people concerned about this, so I'm going to provide a little bit of information before I step away from this matter. The short version is this: I don't think anyone needs to be worried. I'm obviously the target of what's going on here. Aside from not being a target of the shenanigans, everyone else enjoys at least three additional layers of protection.<br> + <br> + First, no one here has made any libelous publications that I'm aware of. No libel, no liability. No worries.<br> + <br> + Second, California has a very strong anti-SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) protection. A bogus lawsuit filed against you just to try to prevent you from expressing yourself in a matter of public interest (say, what belongs on a community information resource) will get thrown out very quickly, and the person filing it will probably have to pay your attorney a substantial sum of money to cover attorney's fees. Anti-SLAPP matters are often handled on a contingency basis, so your attorney won't charge you anything for it; (s)he will only get paid if the matter is successfully dismissed, and it'll generally be the person suing you who has to pay.<br> + <br> + Third, there are substantial federal protections for online "content providers" under a portion of a 1996 statute known as the Communications Decency Act. Among those are safeguards for people acting in an editorial role for content providers. The short version is that people acting in an editorial role, determining whether content submitted by others to a website, are pretty well shielded from liability for any defamatory statements that may be in that content. In other words, if sbyun or someone else on the Boardwalk page committed libel, you aren't vicariously liable for it just because you prevented someone else from deleting it.<br> + <br> + Of course, I should close by stating that none of this should be taken as legal advice; it's for your personal edification only. I don't represent you or anyone else around here, and if you have any legal questions or concerns you should seek a consultation with an attorney. But, in my ''personal, non-professional, non-legal-advice'' opinion, no one here has anything to worry about.<br> + <br> + Beyond that, I'm going to do my best to stay out of this discussion. If you have any questions or concerns feel free to e-mail or call me. Contact info is on my user page. --["Users/TomGarberson"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-22 19:04:34CovertProfessor <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 4: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + The main reason to memory-hole accusations against TG would be to protect TG. So, if TG does not want those accusations memory-holed, it seems to me that we should leave them. --["Users/CovertProfessor"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-22 18:43:06JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- This page is for discussing the contents of ["Blackmon &amp; Associates Historical"].<br> - ----</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 4: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> As far as I'm concerned, what Tom asks is reasonable. As we've told many people, however, it's not "their wiki". Personally, I'm inclined to let Tom handle it as he sees fit. But I'm opening this to discussion purely to keep issues like this in the community sphere. (As an aside: Please don't antagonize anyone by venting; the goal is to stay open, not cause more problems.) -jw </td> <td> <span>+</span> As far as I'm concerned, what Tom asks<span>&nbsp;for ["Blackmon &amp; Associates Historical" here]</span> is reasonable. As we've told many people, however, it's not "their wiki". Personally, I'm inclined to let Tom handle it as he sees fit. But I'm opening this to discussion purely to keep issues like this in the community sphere. (As an aside: Please don't antagonize anyone by venting; the goal is to stay open, not cause more problems.) -jw </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/2012-03http://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/2012-032012-03-22 18:42:40JabberWokkyRenamed from "Blackmon &amp; Associates Historical/Talk" (Less antagonizing.) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/2012-03<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ This page is for discussing the contents of ["Blackmon &amp; Associates Historical"].<br> + ----<br> + <br> + As far as I'm concerned, what Tom asks is reasonable. As we've told many people, however, it's not "their wiki". Personally, I'm inclined to let Tom handle it as he sees fit. But I'm opening this to discussion purely to keep issues like this in the community sphere. (As an aside: Please don't antagonize anyone by venting; the goal is to stay open, not cause more problems.) -jw<br> + <br> + Tom is a long-standing editor and is very popular...he's also grown to be a friend of mine. I am sure the matter will be resolved appropriately and as efficiently as possible. --["PeteB"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>