Recent Changes for "Wiki Community/Reputation" - Davis Wikihttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/ReputationRecent Changes of the page "Wiki Community/Reputation" on Davis Wiki.en-us Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2008-08-13 10:40:34JasonAllerlink fix <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ["JabberWokky"] has started tagging suspicious comments with: {{{''}}}(This review is the {{{["Wiki Community/Reputation" only edit]}}} this user account has made on the wiki. While it does not invalidate this review, please keep this in mind){{{''}}}. Since that links here, a overview as to ''why'' we are concerned might be a good idea to open this entry. People new to the wiki or internet communities in general probably don't realize the nature of single shot account abuse or sockpuppetting. </td> <td> <span>+</span> ["<span>Users/</span>JabberWokky"] has started tagging suspicious comments with: {{{''}}}(This review is the {{{["Wiki Community/Reputation" only edit]}}} this user account has made on the wiki. While it does not invalidate this review, please keep this in mind){{{''}}}. Since that links here, a overview as to ''why'' we are concerned might be a good idea to open this entry. People new to the wiki or internet communities in general probably don't realize the nature of single shot account abuse or sockpuppetting. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 14: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- ------</span> </td> <td> <span>+ </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2008-01-11 10:48:20JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ["JabberWokky"] has started tagging suspicious comments with: {{{''(This review is the ["Wiki Community/Reputation" only edit] this user account has made on the wiki. While it does not invalidate this review, please keep this in mind)''}}}. Since that links here, a overview as to ''why'' we are concerned might be a good idea to open this entry. People new to the wiki or internet communities in general probably don't realize the nature of single shot account abuse or sockpuppetting. </td> <td> <span>+</span> ["JabberWokky"] has started tagging suspicious comments with: {{{''<span>}}}</span>(This review is the <span>{{{</span>["Wiki Community/Reputation" only edit]<span>}}}</span> this user account has made on the wiki. While it does not invalidate this review, please keep this in mind)<span>{{{</span>''}}}. Since that links here, a overview as to ''why'' we are concerned might be a good idea to open this entry. People new to the wiki or internet communities in general probably don't realize the nature of single shot account abuse or sockpuppetting. </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2008-01-11 10:38:59JabberWokky <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 10: </td> <td> Line 10: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + ["JabberWokky"] has started tagging suspicious comments with: {{{''(This review is the ["Wiki Community/Reputation" only edit] this user account has made on the wiki. While it does not invalidate this review, please keep this in mind)''}}}. Since that links here, a overview as to ''why'' we are concerned might be a good idea to open this entry. People new to the wiki or internet communities in general probably don't realize the nature of single shot account abuse or sockpuppetting.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-09 12:04:48JasonAller <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 22: </td> <td> Line 22: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- In a way, this is already built in-- user signatures are dashed (dead links) if a user page doesn't exist. i'm less inclined to trust a review of a user who hasn't created a page yet. --["Users/CraigBrozinsky"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ In a way, this is already built in-- user signatures are dashed (dead links) if a user page doesn't exist. I'm less inclined to trust a review of a user who hasn't created a page yet. --["Users/CraigBrozinsky"]<br> + Very true, but part of the problem with the ["Davis Family Dentistry"] page was that a user made a decision to leave the dentist based on a mix of reviews that included one hit wonders and users with pages. They then told the dentist that this was the reason that they were leaving and then there were some new one hit wonders leaving glowing reviews. There are also a lot of low content user pages, and some userpages get created to ask questions about reviews that don't make sense, like second floors of one story restaurants, or drive-thrus for places that don't have them. --["Users/JasonAller"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-09 11:29:06CraigBrozinskydashed links are credibility <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 22: </td> <td> Line 22: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ In a way, this is already built in-- user signatures are dashed (dead links) if a user page doesn't exist. i'm less inclined to trust a review of a user who hasn't created a page yet. --["Users/CraigBrozinsky"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 17:22:05KevinChinComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 18: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-06-08 18:22:05'' [[nbsp]] I'm not so sure the issue is so much people only posting single comments and not editing as much as it is--potentially--a business or organization trying to pad their stats. If I'm reading this correctly, the problem raised with Davis Dental was that three new accounts--two logged in from the same computer--separately posted glowing reviews of a place where previous experiences were poor at best. This might not be so big a deal with pages where dozens of comments have been made (both negative and positive), but three fake good reviews would balance three authentic bad ones in a way no one would really think twice about. . . and not everyone would bother checking the sources to see how reliable they might be.<br> + <br> + The idea of color coding (or other indicator) would at least give the casual readers (read: me) a small heads-up to take a given comment with a grain of salt, and we can decide for ourselves afterwards. --["Users/KevinChin"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 15:37:04EdWins+2nd part (over 1k chars) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2007-06-08 16:36:49'' [[nbsp]] Bah. You shouldn't have to devote time to working on a wiki to leave a review. Why is it surprising that people who post on either apartment pages, or restaurants, make no other edits? Because to the vast majority of people, especially students in Davis, they use Davis Wiki as another resource, just like RatemyProfessor, Yelp, ApartmentRatings, etc. They go "where should we eat? Check the wiki". Is that placegood? Oh crap, it stunk, Imma make a comment. The way these pages are set up, and how they've *always* represented in the wiki is as reviews. People post good/bad. They're not here to look up Mrak Hall, or find out more about a park bench and who it's dedicated to. --["Users/EdWins"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2007-06-08 16:36:49'' [[nbsp]] Bah. You shouldn't have to devote time to working on a wiki to leave a review. Why is it surprising that people who post on either apartment pages, or restaurants, make no other edits? Because to the vast majority of people, especially students in Davis, they use Davis Wiki as another resource, just like RatemyProfessor, Yelp, ApartmentRatings, etc. They go "where should we eat? Check the wiki". Is that placegood? Oh crap, it stunk, Imma make a comment. The way these pages are set up, and how they've *always* represented in the wiki is as reviews. People post good/bad. They're not here to look up Mrak Hall, or find out more about a park bench and who it's dedicated to. <span>People see DavisWiki as a resource, period. And just like in those other rating/review websites, people are more likely to leave a negative comment, or a very good comment if they were impressed. There's very few "I liked it here. It was good, fair" type comments on those pages, and we see the same thing here Just not the same kind of resource you see it as. I think expecting them to contribute and somehow join in is sily, and not realistic. Sorry mate. </span>--["Users/EdWins"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 15:36:49EdWinsComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 16: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-06-08 16:36:49'' [[nbsp]] Bah. You shouldn't have to devote time to working on a wiki to leave a review. Why is it surprising that people who post on either apartment pages, or restaurants, make no other edits? Because to the vast majority of people, especially students in Davis, they use Davis Wiki as another resource, just like RatemyProfessor, Yelp, ApartmentRatings, etc. They go "where should we eat? Check the wiki". Is that placegood? Oh crap, it stunk, Imma make a comment. The way these pages are set up, and how they've *always* represented in the wiki is as reviews. People post good/bad. They're not here to look up Mrak Hall, or find out more about a park bench and who it's dedicated to. --["Users/EdWins"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 12:09:03StevenDaubertComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 14: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-06-08 13:09:03'' [[nbsp]] another thing to take into account is negative comments made from legit users, IE Acadian. The owners literally hate the wiki because of the percieved anon format. --["Users/StevenDaubert"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 10:45:08RocksandDirt(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2007-06-08 11:44:28'' [[nbsp]] I like the idea of a macro for just a few posts/edits to identify the people who are only one hit wonders. It would be best if this macro was unable to be subtracted except by an admin-gnome, though if they reach some introductory threashold maybe it changes to a "welcome new member" sort of message. Another task for the admin-gnomes would be to review these periodically to see if they are also negative nellies. --["Users/RocksandDirt"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2007-06-08 11:44:28'' [[nbsp]] I like the idea of a macro for just a few posts/edits to identify the people who are only one hit wonders. It would be best if this macro was unable to be subtracted except by an admin-gnome, though if they reach some introductory threashold maybe it changes to a "welcome new member" sort of message. Another task for the admin-gnomes would be to review these periodically to see if they are also negative nellies. --["Users/RocksandDirt"]<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;In addition I appologise for taking 4 edits to put in the comment box, slow brain time i guess.</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 10:44:28RocksandDirtComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 12: </td> <td> Line 12: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-06-08 11:44:28'' [[nbsp]] I like the idea of a macro for just a few posts/edits to identify the people who are only one hit wonders. It would be best if this macro was unable to be subtracted except by an admin-gnome, though if they reach some introductory threashold maybe it changes to a "welcome new member" sort of message. Another task for the admin-gnomes would be to review these periodically to see if they are also negative nellies. --["Users/RocksandDirt"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 10:41:36RocksandDirt(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [[Comment]] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [[Comment<span>s</span>]] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 10:40:37RocksandDirt(quick edit) <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [[<span>c</span>omment]] </td> <td> <span>+</span> [[<span>C</span>omment]] </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 10:40:26RocksandDirtonce I remember how... <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> [comment] </td> <td> <span>+</span> <span>[</span>[comment]<span>]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 10:39:42RocksandDirtadd comment box <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 10: </td> <td> Line 10: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + [comment]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> Wiki Community/Reputationhttp://daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community/Reputation2007-06-08 06:29:43JasonAllerstarting off discussion about one hit wonders, sockpuppets, and negative nellies <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/Reputation<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ In order to help the ["Wiki Community"] deal with users who only leave one comment, only negative comment or only positive comments we need to have some mechanisms in place.<br> + <br> + Pages like ["Bistro 33"] and ["Davis Family Dentistry"] have been hit by users who have made no other positive contribution to the wiki.<br> + <br> + I like the system that Puzzle Pirates uses; new users names are colored green until they've spent enough time at which point they progress to another color.<br> + <br> + Another possibility is to have another include macro that lets people know that the page has edits from sockpuppets, one hit wonders and negative nellies.<br> + <br> + Another possibility is to have a macro that can be added after a users name at the end of their comment that has a threshold. Until a certain number of edits are made, or some other status change the macro displays a message like {{{[[Reputation("Users/Mary", "&lt;2","This user has only made one edit")]]}}}</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>